Love Systems: Overcoming Sticking Points
February 26, 2010 by Thundercat
Filed under Articles
Here’s a great article on overcoming your sticking points by Love Systems Instructor Sheriff:
Sheriff writes:
I’m going to add something here, that you should do EVERY SINGLE MONTH, at least, maybe every week.
I still get value from this exercise, and it takes very little time. However, just knowing this exercise won’t help, you have to actually DO IT.
Take one piece of A4. At the top write “I see a hot girl”. At the bottom write: “we start having sex” (or “she says ‘I do’”, or whatever your actual outcome is).
Then fill in a plausible and detailed explanation of how you got from seeing this chick to being balls deep. Whenever you get to a point where you’re not sure what to write, you’ve found a sticking point.
For the VAST majority of guys I’ve met, this will be:
“I see a hot girl. I go and run some opinion opener from the internet on her. Then, uh.. um. Maybe I tease her? Uh, and, uh.”
BANG. Sticking point identified. Do some research at this point. What comes next? Post a question to the forum. Ask someone what should happen next.
You don’t need to work out the best thing to say – you’re not looking for lines to memorize, and you’re not looking for some kind of magical routine – it’ll never go down the way you’ve planned it anyway. You’re looking for an understanding of a plausible next step. Don’t accept answers like “Then you be an alpha male and she fucks you” – not good enough. Ask for specific sample dialogue. Don’t try and replicate those, don’t try and parrot that shit off, but use them to get an understanding of what and why happens next.
As my own example, the first time I did this, I got to: “we’re making out in the club”, and I was like WTF happens next? So I asked a natural buddy, and he said: “Last time I just told the girl I’d make her a cocktail back at mine”.
What did I do? I went out and spent a far too much money on cocktail alcohol and equipment. Next time I went out, I was making out with this girl, and was like: “So, uh, do you want a cocktail back at mine?”. Answer: “No”. DOH! Asked for more advice on this, was told to make the bounce home gentler and less obvious … and with time, got that shit sorted. Learning how to bounce was a massive sticking point for me, and I hadn’t even realised it – once I had that sorted, I started having a one-night stand. The point being: you won’t get this stuff right first time, but a plausible idea of how to go about it is crucial
Do I use some long-winded and complicated extraction technique now? No, of course not. Now I instinctively know how to bounce, instinctively know the subtleties, and tend to just say: “ok, we’re out of here!”. But the identification of the sticking point through the above exercise (and subsequent ones), the focus on actually closing and getting from A to B is what started accelerating my game.
Key points:
- Write personal, detailed, and fictional descriptions of how you went from seeing a girl to fucking her to help you get the process straight in your head, and identify your weak points
- Ask for advice any time you find yourself having trouble writing plausible dialogue or action sequences
- The point isn’t to prescript the interaction, the point is to identify your sticking points in getting from A to B – it won’t ever go down the way you planned anyway
- Don’t accept wishy-washy advice that doesn’t come with plausible detailed examples
Hope this helps – just reading it won’t though – actually TRY IT.
To find out more on overcoming sticking points, check out the Love Systems Sticking Points Interview.
Good stuff. If you’re dealing with sticking points, dealing with them can greatly improve your game.
If Men Wrote Women’s Magazines
February 23, 2010 by Thundercat
Filed under Quotes & Humor
Some genius put together some images of covers of popular women’s magazines if men were in charge of writing them. (Correction: heterosexual men! lol). It’s pretty funny. Check it out here.
15 Things you Should Know About Breasts
February 23, 2010 by Thundercat
Filed under Health & Hygiene
Here’s a very interesting graphic listing 15 things about breasts you should probably know.
Good stuff.
Me likes boobies!
List Of “Boyfriend Destroyer” Comebacks
February 23, 2010 by Thundercat
Filed under Tips & Tricks
i6power over on mASF has a pretty good list of how to deal with the “I have a boyfriend” objection.
========= Yugo Mercedes ====
“I have a boyfriend.”
“I understand: You have to test drive the Yugo before you buy the Mercedes.”====== Direct Bounce ======
“omg I’m sure thats a big achievement for a girl like you”
” I’m not interested in him I’m interested in you”
“I thought you looked like the type of girl who would have at least two BF’s” (Dr Owl)If time permits, ask her about her bf, and become genuinly interested:
1. you: show active interest in what bf does for a minute..run a bait hook reel release on BF….i’ll show you in a minute, how!
now guys the way you look for a simple genuine thing in a girl and complement her, do the exact opposite for bf..look for the flaw. you’ll start programming her!2. Exadurate how good her bf is, like wow you guys should get married, he is so perfect for you.
=================== is he the one?
HB: I have a boyfriend.
Me: Is he “The One”?
HB: Uhhhhh….. I don’t know….maybe….etc etc
(this is usual. If a woman gives an emphatic YES, I say “Good. I’m glad for both of you.” and disqualify her. One reason is shes going to be hard as hell to game anyway, and the second reason is fucking up good relationships is not why I want to be a PUA)Me: How do you know I’m not? (Very direct, frank stare. Like the way James Bond might deliver such a line.)
or
Me:…uh-huh…..(With a “You are so full of shit look” and then a slight turn away)
Jim
================== super cocky approach === works only with girl who is infereior to you
(look at her like she’s a retard)
“okaaay… good for you”
( while patting her behind the back or shoulder or head)“… anyway…” (continue fluff / story telling / whatever…)
==== by RJ =============
Girl: “I have a boyfriend.”
Me: “Damn. At least let me introduce myself before telling me all about your problems! My name is Mr. Right aka the man of your dreams.”
Girl: (LOL) “You are so funny!”
Me: “I’m glad you laughed, it shows that you’ve got something else going for you, besides your beauty.”
Admittedly, the one by RJ is an oldie but a goodie, even if it is cheesy as hell. But whatever.
Mehow Complicates AMOGing
February 19, 2010 by Thundercat
Filed under Analysis
So I somehow stumbled upon an article from Mehow about AMOGing and my brain almost exploded while reading it. I don’t have any real beef with Mehow other than to say I don’t personally like the guy, but after reading this article, I’m honestly wondering how anyone else could like him either.
Mehow’s whole article is basically a long-winded explanation of how to make offensive “yo momma” jokes to your buddies and pass it off as AMOGing. What most seduction coaches could have explained in a paragraph, Mehow goes on to convolute and over-rationalize for a good 3 pages (at least!).
Anyway, I thought the article was bad enough that it deserved some commentary. So if you’re at all interesting in AMOGing, you may be interested in reading a bit further… Read more
Easy Ways To Talk To Women
February 19, 2010 by Thundercat
Filed under Tips & Tricks
DrWho over at mASF has a problem keeping conversations going with women.
DrWho writes:
Hi everyone,
for quite some time my largest problems is to be keeping conversations going and interesting. I could improve things a little by memorizing canned material and regularly surfing the internet for cool, fun stuff to talk about. I know about the typical topics girls like to talk about (psychology, esoterica, relationships, celebrities, emotionally stimulating stuff, etc.) and try to specifically look for the right stuff. I am able to show the right emotional state to make girls talkative (relaxed, playfully funny, energetic). Still most of the time a don’t have a fucking idea what to say – and the chick also not.
When I open a chick or get opened by one (yes, it happens to me every half a year or so), after a few sentences the conversation stalls because nothing comes to my mind. If I hang out with a girl quickly we start talking about the weather or just walk along in silence.
Previously I believed it is mostly a mind blank due to panic, but watching it for some time I notice I also don’t know what to say to people when I’m relaxed and nothing is at stake. I guess I’m not very creative and I think creativity is something very hard to learn. So I’m stuck.
I’m wondering if there is some more systematic way to find conversation topics than ‘just say what comes to your mind first’. I like ideas like the routine to watch the people around you looking for something to talk about to your target (still this one doesn’t work well most of the time because I rarely find interesting things to mention). Someone knows of a structured method of coming up with a conversation topic or a good book on the topic?
I hope I don’t get shot down because I emphasize that I want something systematic. I think this is reasonable because being creative in a structured way is much easier than doing it completely free. If someone is interested the article below should bring this point across.
I can definitely sympathize with DrWho here. Having a hard time carrying on conversations is a pretty common problem and I used to suffer from the same thing. After all, conversation is WORK. It requires mental engagement and interest in what you’re talking about.
In my course Pure Personality, I teach a method that I call “conversational ninjitsu” that allows you to carry on conversations effortlessly by following a few easy steps. Once you get the hang of it, it can be quite effective.
But barring buying a full course or memorizing a bunch of canned material, the method I’ve found most effective in talking and carrying on conversation is a very simple “fish and hook” method.
Basically, you can think of it like “Question and Answer time.”
Just ask someone questions until you find something you can relate to, and then share a story of your own that relates to the answer.
So for example, you could have an exchange like:
You: “Where are you from?”
Them: “Chicago.”
You: “Really? I’ve always wanted to go to Chicago and visit the Sears Tower. Have you ever been there?”
Them: “Oh yeah, it’s great!”
You: “Cool. If you could visit any location on Earth, where would you want to go?”
etc., etc.
It’s not rocket science, but it is effective.
How To Get Girls To Meet you Off Of Facebook
February 19, 2010 by Thundercat
Filed under Tips & Tricks
Checkmater over on mASF had a good question about getting girls you meet on Facebook to meet you offline.
Checkmater writes:
I spend way too much time on Facebook. Facebook chat, messages, poking etc they’re all great low-commitment ways to talk with girls. I have a few good things I’ve learned, would also like to solicit some advice b/c I have such a hard time meeting some1 in real life afterwards. Out of 1000 friends there are at least 100 attractive women.
However, there is a downside. For instance, a girl recently wrote on my wall telling me I look like a certain celebrity. Great! I wrote her a little message back, 3 sentences saying “What’s up?” She replied, “What’s up to you?” I replied, with a dull question, then nothing. I posted something on my wall a week later, and she replied to it.
My facebook protip: Always end with some sort of witty interrogative. Absurdist questions are sometimes good. Negging her facebook profile picture, be careful though, you might think it’s funny to write, but it may not be nearly as funny to read.
Request for protip: How do I get from here to, coffee, etc.
First of all, for those of you interested in Facebook Game, check out the article I just wrote over at Pick Up Evolution about meeting girls on Facebook.
But as far as meeting girls offline from Facebook, here is my advice…
There are two ways I know of to take Facebook meets offline. The first is to host some type of event that you can invite people to. Whether its throwing a party or organizing a group to go out, you invite the girl you want to come along and bring her friends, and follow up with her to make sure she’s coming. Then, at the event, you chit-chat and number close or set up the date right there.
A second, slightly more sneaky option, is to check and see if she has her phone number listed in Facebook. Lots of people who update Facebook through their phones include their number in their contact info on their profile. Because only your friends see it, they don’t think twice about sharing, so you can get her number directly and start texting her and eventually set up a coffee date.
Another option is to email her and ask for her number straight up. Just say something like you’re updating your contacts and you realized you don’t have her number, or something like that.
AFC Adam’s Negative Attraction Video
February 15, 2010 by Thundercat
Filed under Video
Hey Guys,
PUATraining just posted a really long video of 2009′s #1 Pick Up Artist AFC Adam goving over some advanced tactics. A big concept he talks about in the video is “Negative Attraction.” It’s a long vid, but Adam drops some great gems in it!
Oh yeah, Adam is also offering his new Instant Attraction Training course now, so if you haven’t checked that out yet, you really neet to.
Great Anti-Slut-Defense Reframe
February 15, 2010 by Thundercat
Filed under Tips & Tricks
TVA Oslo over on the mASF forums has a great tip for getting past a girl’s last-minute Anti-Slut Defense (ASD). Check it out:
TVA Oslo writes:
Most ASD is due to her being affraid of what her friend thinks of her when she does a sexual act. A girl can avoid having sex with you because she is very affraid of what her entourage will think of it. Most men love bragging (I do too, but I never tell who I fucked, so it doesn’t count, I just say I fucked a girl). Men brags, girlfriends find out about it, especially in social cirles. But this one will also work in non-social circle settings.
Fact is. If none of her friends knows about anything you’ve done with a girl, they won’t judge your sweatheart.
This technique is a way to show her that you will not tell her friends. It’s very simple. Everyone can do it right now. No risks!
Here is what you do.
When you know it’s on, almost close to getting a lay (around final escalations, or at a point were things are turning VERY sexual) and you feel you don’t have controle of the ASD (like she does have ASD symptoms or actually get an ASD kick), try this:TVA: What ever happen tonight between us… please do me a favor.
HB: Which
TVA: Don’t tell ANYONE about it okey
HB: (100% guarrantee she will complie on this one) No I won’t
TVA: I don’t want anyone to know anything about my private life. There is nothing wrong with you, but I like to keep things for myself… can you promise me that?
HB: Yeah
TVA: really! I beg you to do it
HB: I will
TVA: thanks you are lovely (go kino… reward good behaviour with horniness remember… no more ASD… gogogo)Girls are affraid of what her friend will think of her. By proving you will not tell anyone, is a good way to get rid of the ASD. By begging her to not tell anyone, you are the one who cares about it. You reframed it. You are the one who don’t want anyone to know about what you do in private. This projects that you will not tell anyone since you are the one begging her to keep quiet about it. Pretty easy concept right?
Tell me if you don’t understand. I think you will, but you never know.
A pitfall is (even if they are rare):
TVA: What ever happen tonight between us… please do me a favor…
HB: It won’t happen anything tonight (clear sign of no sexual attraction, but if you want to keep trying, keep reading)
TVA: I am not saying it will, but people have that magical process, when they lose controle of their horniness, nothing wrong with that, it’s awesome, it just happens you know.Completly okey I just want to make sure that if that happen, it happens in good conditions and we keep it secret. (and on and one to sexual reframing, DAFS in advanced in the archive on this technique)Gogo escalation… no more ASD.
Have fun!
One important thing to note about this post is the re-frame here. For those of you new to the game, think of it like this… the girl has a “frame of mind” that there are negative connotations to sleeping with you. Hense the “anti-slut defense” popping up. This post gave a great example of how to “re-frame” that objection to you sleeping with her. In essence, you frame the situation in a different way that makes it okay for her to do what you want her to.
Re-framing is a great way to get around ANY objection a girl has. Good salesmen re-frame all the time. Whenever a customer objects to something, they re-frame it so it becomes a benefit as opposed to an objection.
What TVA Oslo does here is he reframes the situation so that the girl knows whatever happens between them will remain intimate and private. So she doesn’t have to worry about word getting out that she may have partaken in “slutty” behavior amongst her friends. But he frames it in such a way where privacy and intimacy is IMPORTANT to him! He’s basically taking what the girl feels she needs and adopting it for himself. Very slick here.
Can you guys think of any other good reframes for common objections?
Design Of The Blog
February 12, 2010 by Thundercat
Filed under News
For a while, some of you may have noticed I had a pretty fancy site design going on the blog here.
Well, I decided to go back to the good ol’ “crappy” design I had before.
Why? Well, I guess I just enjoyed the simplicity of the crappy design. The fancy design just felt too “professional” for my liking. I’m a simple guy, so I want to keep this blog simple. You log in, you see the posts, and that’s that. You don’t get distracted by fancy pictures and graphics and stuff.
Maybe I’ll switch it back eventually. But for now, I’m brining the Lair back to its roots.
Oh yeah – and I’ll also be updating the site again regularly, so feel free to participate in the comments section.
How To Escape Being “Friended”
February 12, 2010 by Thundercat
Filed under Tips & Tricks
A poster named Regal had a great tip on mASF about avoiding having a girl “Friend” you when you’re trying to get sexual with her.
Regal writes:
I’ve never really been the kind of guy who got the “Let’s just be friends” speech — I’m typically too aggressive / inconsiderate to realistically be considered “friends” material by women.
That said, I’ll hear it occassionally if I’m escalating with a girl who’s trying to resist me — maybe she wants to slow things down because she likes me as a boyfriend, or maybe she’s in a committed relationship or has reservations about me for some other reason or she just hasn’t decided she’s ready to sleep with me yet.
When you get something like, “Maybe it’s better if we’re just friends,” or, “I think you’d make a good friend,” there’s one easy, powerful statement you can make to shut that down and communicate your intentions:
“I don’t want to be your friend.”
Say it with a half-smile and bedroom eyes… and be sexy about it.
Nice guys won’t use this line, because they’re too scared to risk losing the girl in question from their lives by telling her they don’t want to be her friend. “Oh no, if I tell her I don’t want her as a friend, she’ll leave me!” they think. Then, they keep her as a friend while she sleeps with some other, stronger man.
When you tell her this, you instantly show her you’re not one of those guys.
Another reason it’s a strong statement is that it makes it clear what you DO want; if you’re spending time with her, touching her, laughing with her, but you don’t want to be her friend, there’s only one other thing you CAN be.
And you also force her to make a choice. She knows now that you’re not going to be her friend. She also knows that it’s your intention to sleep with her. If she chooses to stay with you, she’s accepting your advances. So, in making this statement, you force her to make a conscious decision to accept your advances. And since the force of inertia means it’s a lot easier for her to stay and accept it than fight it and leave, unless she hates your guts she’s not going to go.
Obviously, this won’t work if she doesn’t actually LIKE you… but if you’re sexy and you’re doing what you should be doing, this is a strong statement that swats objections out of the way and ramps up her attraction for you. It’s lain along the path to a few lays for me, and I don’t hear this objection a whole lot.
Next time you do, give it a try…
I couldn’t agree with this more. Too often, guys allow the girl they are with to set the frame. When she says she just “wants to be friends,” most guys accept that as being true and try to deal with it. What Regal is suggesting here is totally dismissing the premise of that frame entirely and having her choose to accept your frame or not.
Good stuff.
Is A Woman’s BO The New Perfume?
February 12, 2010 by Thundercat
Filed under Health & Hygiene
Here’s an interesting article from Discovery.com about how a woman’s “natural scent” is more attractive to men than perfume.
Women looking for that special someone might want to think twice before spritzing Chanel No. 5. A new study suggests that a woman’s natural scent may be all she needs.
Recent research shows that a man’s testosterone levels, which are linked with sexual interest, are significantly higher when they smell the shirt of a woman who is ovulating. These findings could lead to the development of new fragrances that mimic this effect, and answer basic questions about human biology.
Speaking as a guy who’s dealt with a lot of women in his time, I have to say that I much prefer the smell of perfume. lol.
Should You Be A “Jerk” Or A “Nice Guy?”
February 12, 2010 by Thundercat
Filed under Analysis
Bisquick1 had this interesting post on mASF about striking a balance between being a Jerk and a Nice Guy.
Bisquick1 writes:
I notice this relates to not just picking up women, but making friends — lasting friends at that: Finding the balance between being the “Jerk” and being the “Nice guy”
After making, keeping, and losing friends or women I began to understand how those processes were happening. However, I’m having a difficult time trying to calibrate each situation!
If I make a friend/meet a girl, I will either lose him/her because I am either: Worried about not offending or annoying the other person, thereby leading me to be boring and they move to someone more fun.
Or I’m too much of a jerk. I’ll get annoying, and be too crazy/funny to the point where it is like “Enough already!” and lose him/her because of that.
On rare instances I’ll keep the friend/girlfriend if I play the cards right, but I just don’t know how!
I’ve tried newbie methods to meet new guy friends and potential girlfriend, but it is taking too long to just CLICK.
When and how will it just CLICK? Its been too long!(2+ years of recurring situations mentioned above)
Now, I’ve dealt with this “Nice Guy” vs. “Jerk” dilemma before. I think too many guys make the mistake of thinking that being a Jerk means being a mean prick to everyone, and somehow that is preferable to being a “Nice Guy.” In the case of this poster, he wants to strike some type of balance, as though he can oscilate between being a Jerk and being a Nice Guy when the situation suits him.
To me, this is a bad idea – for a multitude of reasons. Not the least of which is that when you do things like this, you’re not being very genuine. You’re putting on an act, so when people become attracted to you, they’re not really liking you for who you are, they like the act you put on. And ultimately, you just can’t sustain that.
If you’re the type of guy who thinks that you have to be a jerk to get women attracted to you, then you’ve been mislead. You don’t have to be one or the other – a nice guy or a jerk. Both of these labels have positives and negatives about them. it is possible to be a nice guy who attracts women just as well, if not better than, jerks do.
Here’s the thing you got to remember about “Jerks”…
The reason Jerk’s are so successful with women (in general) is because women often mistake narcisism & sociopathic tendancies for confidence.
Jerks are people who only care about their own pleasure. They have no concept of other people’s feelings, and because of that, they don’t get nervous or take into account how they may be coming off around other people. They focus on getting what they want because they feel they deserve it. This can seem like confidence, mixed with a healthy dose of persistence, to people who have weak frames and get caught up in the Jerk’s bravado. But those are really the two things anyone needs to be successful with women at a most basic level – confidence and persistence.
So I don’t think its really about finding a balance between being a Jerk and a Nice guy, its about having the right amount of confidence so that you can get what you want no matter the situation.
I like to think I’m a pretty nice guy, but I have developed a certain amount of inner strength that helps me to attract women and not come off as Beta or AFC. That’s really what we’re talking about here – if you can be self confident enough to be fun, interesting, and engaging around others and still get what you want, you don’t have to worry about playing the roll of a “jerk” or a “nice guy.”
So it comes down to this – are you able to focus on doing and achieving what makes you happy, while still being able to calibrate how other people around you are feeling and adjust your behavior appropriately?
The best skill you can learn in pick up is being able to read the people you are with – be they men or women. If you know what you’re doing is upsetting someone or pissing them off, then you need to be able to adjust your game accordingly.
If you’re able to do that, you can CONSISTENTLY be the type of man people want to be around, without having to worry about “switching” your roles and playing two different parts that really don’t reflect who you are.
The Top 10 Pick Up Artist Of 2009!
January 1, 2010 by Thundercat
Filed under Featured, Top 10 Lists
Welcome one and all to this year’s edition of my Top 10 PUA list. My Top 10 list is different from most people’s, for a few reasons. The first of which is I try and personally meet and interact with as many PUAs as I can to get a sense if they’re the real deal or not. Most people out there just rank their friends or go based off of what the message boards say, but I try and base my rankings on my personal experience – not only with the PUAs themselves, but with the techniques of picking up women in general.
But more than that, I base my rankings on more than just sheer skill at picking up women. The criteria for the rankings are simple:
1. In-Field Performance. This is basically the skills the PUA displays in the field with women. Most Top 10s deal with this factor exclusively, but I’ve found that just looking at a guy’s in-field performance can be misleading, since people have off-nights or can get lucky. That said, their ability to use the techniques in field repeatedly and consistently to get results is a big, big factor in the ranking process.
2. Innovations. This is what new outlook or techniques the PUA brings to the table. It’s easy for any new guy to get good using Mystery Method or any other school of seduction, but then again, that stuff is designed to work! So being innovative and bringing a new twist, spin, philosophy, technique, or whatever to the mix is also a big deal, because that means the PUA actually has something to contribute to his students and the community as a whole that no one else does.
3. Teaching Ability. This is how effectively the PUA can teach what he does to other people, and have them get similar results. This is another important factor, because it weeds out the people who are just the lucky naturals, and finds the PUAs who have something to offer humanity as a whole. After all, I don’t care if a guy gets laid a lot. I care if that guy can get ME laid a lot – and I think the same is true for you. That is why I factor in the PUA’s ability to teach others into the ranking.
4. Contributions To The Community. This is a measure of how much the PUA “gives back” to others in the seduction community. This factor is all about the PUA’s willingness to help others, the knowledge and experience he’s willing to share, and the compassion he shows to those who need help. Too many PUAs look down on people not as successful with women as they are, and that’s not what the seduction community is about, so giving back to it should play a factor, in my opinion.
5. Philosophy. This comes down to the PUA’s outlook on life, women, and other men in general. It’s about how they live their lives, and whether they’re consistent with it. Some PUAs spout great philosophy, but don’t really believe in it or practice it. But it’s that core foundations which will influence their students, so I believe this is important in factoring the rankings.
6. Likability. One of the things I base my ranking on is whether I actually like the PUA or not. This is a subjective thing, but I feel its important, because there’s usually a reason I don’t like someone, and that reason has to do with them being a fake, fraud, evil bastard, or what have you. I like to think I have a fairly decent “B.S. Radar,” so when I meet a PUA in person, I can usually tell if they are legit or not after getting to know them, which is why I tend to rank PUAs I have actually met in real life. If I haven’t met them, I need to get good feedback from at least 3 sources I trust to make the decision to rank them in this category.
Okay, so now that you know how I rank the list, let’s get to it!
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Dreamweaver – Rest In Peace
March 18, 2009 by Thundercat
Filed under News
I write this post with a heavy heart. One of my good friends from the community, Dreamweaver, passed away this morning after a long battle with Brain Cancer.
Dreamweaver (or Seth, as his friends knew him) was at the very first pick-up workshop I ever took. He was young, good-looking, funny, and full of life and energy. When his brain tumor was discovered, it was a shock to everyone.
Despite the odds, Dreamweaver lived longer than all the doctors expected, and during that time, he fulfilled his goal of directing a feature film, and he was working on a new film based on his experiences in the seduction community when he passed away.
Whenever I saw Seth, he was always in good humor about his condition, even after brain surgery which permanently disfigured his head, and harsh chemo therapy which ravaged his skin, he was always someone who was quick to joke and cheer people up around him, when we should have been the ones to try and make him feel better.
Dreamweaver also played an important role in Neil Strauss’s book, the Game. He was someone everyone in the Project Hollywood era knew and admired, and I was lucky enough to consider him a friend.
My prayers go out to his family at this difficult time. I’m told his final hours were quite traumatic for those who cared for him, especially his mother and his girlfriend.
I hope those of you who knew Seth will take a moment and offer him and his family your best wishes in this trying time.
Farewell, Seth. You will be missed.




