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Hey guys,

This week’s episode of the BootyCast has special guest Brad P. from BradPPresents.com.

Issues covered in this week’s podcast…

• My appearance on the Barry Kirky show (again)
• Devil’s Threesomes & Johnny Wolf
• New Sex Terms
• The Looks Vs. Personality Debate
• How Brad P Got Started Teaching Dating Advice
• Thundercat’s Top Ten List
• How Brad P Met Tyler Durden
• Blog Reader’s Questions For Brad P
• The Similarities Between Brad P’s Routines & Dean Koonts Novels
• The Real Man Conference In Amsterdam
• PUA Action Figures
• Upcoming Free Teleconference Call

This week’s podcast runs 2:56:47 minutes.  You can download the Podcast by clicking here.

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Video: Thundercat Vs. 2 Hot Guys

Hey guys,

This week I have a very interesting video to share with you, but before I do, I want to give you a bit of background…

I got my friend Erica to invite a number of girls to come by my place one hot summer’s day.  None of them knew why they were going to be there, they were just doing it as a favor for my friend.

So I had NEVER met these girls before.  They didn’t know me.  I didn’t know them.

I had two guys I knew show up as well.  Their names are Theo and Zack.  Here’s a little bit about them:

THEO

Theo is a personal trainer here in Hollywood.  He’s extremely muscular and fit, and every girl who sees him is instantly turned on by his looks.

When you compare Theo’s chizzled body to my rotund Kung-Fu Panda-esque body, there’s simply no doubt about it – I’m the loser!

ZACK

Zack is a big party guy.  He goes out to the clubs 5-6 nights a week (no kidding!).  By his own admission, he finds hooking up with girls “easy.”

Zack is a very good looking guy, with a head of hair I’d kill for.  Me, I’m not the club going type anymore.  So when it comes to social pick-up skills, Zack should have me beat.

The Shoot

The way things worked is that Erica would bring the girls out one at a time, and they each met with Theo, Zack, and myself.

After each meeting, my friend Ryan would interview the girls about their experience while my friend Steve video taped the interview.

I want to re-itterate:  NONE of the girls really knew what was going on!

And trust me – this was NOT a professional production!  It was just my friends with a video camera.  No make up artists, special effects, or any of that stuff.  I’m sure you’ll be able to tell from the quality of the video, this was really HOME MADE!

My friend Ryan, who interviewed each of the girls, was absolutely SHOCKED by their responses.

In each instance, I came of just as attractive, and in most cases – even MORE attractive – than the good looking guys!

You can see the whole video for yourself here:

Thundercat Vs. 2 Better Looking Guys

You’ll actually get to see the girl’s honest reactions to me and the other guys for yourself,

Let me know what you guys think in this thread.

Thundercat

P.S.  Some of you haters might be inclined to think that this video was somehow “staged.”  I can assure you, that is not the case.

None of the girls were coached on what to say.  All their reactions stem from the conversations they had with me and the two other guys.

You can tell, just by watching the way they answer the questions, they’re NOT reading from a script.

It was very important to me that we capture the REAL REACTIONS of these women, so I can prove to all of you how effective personality is when it comes to generating attraction.

At the end of the day, I know there are some guys out there bitter and shallow-minded enough to still think I “faked” this shoot.  But that’s okay.  Those are the guys who’ll never succeed with girls.

I’ll leave it to you to decide if what you see is real or not.

Go check out the video here:

Click Here For The Video

State Of The Community

So yesterday I was graced with the presence of none other than the dynamic duo of fastseduction.com, Formhandle and TokyoPUA.  They’re in LA visiting and I took them around town and hung out with them.  I think the last time I had seen Formhandle was the 2004 PUA Summit at Project Hollywood, and this was the first time meeting TokyoPUA face to face.

Anyway, over lunch we had a lot of conversations about the "state of the community."  These guys basically get to see all the "up-and-comers" in the PUA world thanks to their involvement in the hub of the community, and I’m in somewhat of a similar position because of this blog.

Anyway, what we shared with each other wasn’t good.

Back in the "heyday" of the community (at least as the three of us saw it), we had a lot of original thinkers posting some great stuff.  You had people like Mystery, Style, Toecutter, Swinggcat, Juggler, Ross Jeffries, Tyler Durden, and a whole slew of others posting ideas, theories, field reports, and tons of other things – all of which were interesting to read.

The big problem now is that there seems to be a void because these people have stopped sharing ideas and posting to the community portals.  They’ve withdrawn.  I don’t think its because they’re all commercial and don’t want to post anymore, I think some of them are just busy living their lives and others have just lost interest in the community.

Which leaves the newbies…

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Rave Reviews on ASF

**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 12/16/03

Okay, so back at the DYD seminar in Chicago, I was tapped to be a guest instructor at the Papa/TD/Orion workshop. It was the first time I had ever really gone out instructing people in a “professional” capacity. I mean, I’ve been out bootcamping some local guys on Sunset here in LA, but this was a workshop people were paying for, so I felt a certain pressure to do my best with helping the students to learn.

Anyway, I was referred to a review of the workshop one of the student’s put up on ASF. The review is pretty good and fairly accurate from what I remember, even if the guy’s observations about the instructors are a bit off.

Anyway, here’s what he writes about me:

“I meet up with Thundercat. Very cool dude. He says “Go approach that set. Say ‘female opinion: who lies more, men or women?’, then come back.” I do just that, chat the 3-set up for a few minutes more, then return to him for more assignments. He says “Go tell that girl on the dancefloor ‘Settle down! you’re going to make the other girls jealous!’” I do. Girl responds very well. Then she gives me a salute and yes “Yes, Sir!” She’s smiling big and into it. I go back for more assignments. Thundercat says go open 3 more sets with the opinion opener. I open two more sets. One girl avoided me, as she was ordering a drink. I return, tell Thundercat what happened. He asks how I feel. I said I hate being blown out, but that I feel fine and it’s not going to prevent me from approaching more.” No big deal he says. If it doesn’t work well, just say “nice meeting you” to leave the door open for future sarges with her.

I really wish we had time to give a background of ourselves at the lecture, but there wasn’t time in the mini-workshop. I think all the instructors think all the students are AFCs. I wish I had told Thundercat about my experience, as I was hanging in sets well, but I figured, Hell, I’m here to learn what these guys have to teach, so I want to use their openers, their techniques. I was hoping for more advanced assignments from him like “go get a kiss from that girl within 5 minutes!” That would have been cool, but he was off working with other students by then.”

LOL. Go kiss a girl in 5 minutes! Most of these guys can’t even TALK to women, let alone kiss them. But this dude definitely stood out as someone who was comfortable in a club scene. I do remember him being a bit more upset about getting blown out than he made it out to be. He came up stuttering and looking a bit flustered, so I pulled him to the side and calmed him down. If his writing style says anything about him, its that he could be a real presence on ASF if he ups his field outtings. You can read the whole thread here:

http://www.fastseduction.com/discussion/read?118549,24

I find it a fascinating read because it came from a truly neutral source. This was a dude who didn’t know any of us, least of all me, yet he gave me good reviews on my teaching style. I guess there’s a twinge of pride there, knowing I help someone out. Though Chicago for me sucked. One thing that became painfully obvious was that if I’m teaching other guys how to pick-up, I can’t do any pick-ups myself. It was terrible, and its for that reason why I will probably never teach at an actual in-field workshop again. It was a good experience, I’m glad I did it, but its too much work not to get paid for.

I know Harmless has talked about bringing me in as a guest speaker/instructor when he starts his workshops, but I’m on the fence about doing it right now. We’ll have to wait and see I suppose. It depends on how my finances are doing at the time.

Thundercat

It Begins…

**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 12/16/03

Mwuahahahahahahahaa!

It seems the revolution has begun. Well, only if you redefine revolution as “shit nobody cares about.” Maybe I’m being a bit hard on myself, I guess some people care — Hi mom!

Anyway, for those of you who don’t know me, my name is Thundercat. Well, that’s not my Christian name mind you. My mother and father did not play some cruel joke on me as a child and name me after some Saturday Morning Cartoon show. Actually, that’s my handle. Yes, in the comfy anonymous blanket of cyberspace, I am known as THUNDERCAT. A handle I picked for myself once I entered a little subculture known as “The Seduction Community.”

The Seduction Community is basically a group of guys ranging from hopeless losers to incredibly successful and cool men who have all come together for one purpose — to learn how to meet, attract, and fuck women.

Yes, that’s right. There are actually groups of guys who are studying how to do this, and I’m one of them.

A little background on myself: I’ve been in “the game” (yes, that’s what its actually referred to as) since 1998. I was a sophomore in college at the time, and pretty much the most pathetic loser you’ve ever met. I was upwards of 300 lbs, with knappy ass hair, horrible acne, and the most bitter and angry attitude you can imagine. One Friday night, I ordered a Papa John’s pizza and sat around watching reruns of Threes Company on Nick-At-Night while my frat boy room mate went out partying with some of the hottest chicks I’d ever seen in my life.

So there I was, 300 lbs, a piece of pizza in one hand and my cock in the other as I jerked off to Suzan Summers back when she was somewhat hot, and it was at that point I had an epiphany…

I needed to kill myself.

No, this wasn’t just some passing fancy, like “Gee, maybe I should buy some more milk and maybe kill myself.” This was a very real thought. The whole patheticness of the situation descended upon me like a fat chick doing a belly flop. What I was doing was laughable, and I knew it. I broke down and start to cry, throwing the mother of all tantrums and trashing my dorm room in a blind fit of rage. After it was all over and I was sobbing quietly in the corner, I knew I had only two options available to me:

1. Really kill myself.
2. Get laid.

Now, there were good arguments for both options at the time. But for some reason the second seemed more attractive. I figured if I could get my dick wet, maybe even get a girlfriend, my life wouldn’t suck so much. However, if I actually knew how to accomplish this task I wouldn’t be in this predicament in the first place.

So I went online and looked up “dating” on yahoo. Nothing really helpful popped up. Then I tried typing in “seduction.” Boom. A hit. Right before my eyes came up two simple words: “Speed Seduction.” A system created by Ross Jeffries that teaches guys how to seduce women using Neuro-Linguistic Programming (ie: hypnosis) to mind fuck them into sleeping with you. It was an interesting concept, and I was desperate, so I spent my last $250 from my summer job and bought the fuckin’ Basic Home Seduction course.

From that point on, I was a loyal speed seducer, diligently studying the BHSC, telling girls they were “shining examples of genetic perfection,” and buying many other products such as — The Unstoppable Confidence Tapes, The Methods and Masters CDs, and Bishop’s Journal.

From ’98 on, I studied SS in a vacuum. I was too ashamed to tell my friends I was trying to learn how to hypnotize chicks into wetting my man-worm, so it was my dirty little secret until I got out of college and moved to LA in 2002. It was then that I started the Los Angeles Speed Seduction Lair due to the prompting of my friend Brother Kermit, a fellow Speed Seducer I met on the SS Email list who had been mentoring me in the creepy art of seduction. He was very involved in the Montreal lair and suggested I meet other bros in the community who could help my game.

So I started the Lair in LA. It was a rough going, since LA was so spread out and attendance erratic. But I did make some good solid friendships out of it, and I guess my name started spreading around. Anyway, around this time one of my lair members informed me of a new club in Los Angeles called PLAY (Players Los Angeles Yahoo group). It was basically the same thing as my lair, only it covered ALL forms of seduction and pick-up. Interested in attending their meeting, I called up the head of PLAY, an asian dude by the name of Papa.

Papa had heard of me and my work in the LA Lair, so he invited me to attend the LA Mystery Method Workshop for free as a guest. Interested in the prospect of seeing something new and fresh, I decided to attend. I had heard of Mystery from fastseduction.com, but was not aware he taught actual in field workshops.

The attending of the MM Workshop was a definite changing point in my life. Until that seminal event, I was steeped in an SS mindset, one which I am convinced helped me conquer my inner game, but prevented me from increasing my outer game. Mystery Method was a very “shit or get off the pot” style of pick-up. One that is not very conducive to mental masturbation or excuses. You either approach the girl, or you don’t. You either lay her, or you don’t. Period.

Well, thanks to those amazing 3 days of hard core in-field study, I broke through my walk-up barrier and became an approach machine. My newfound ability to talk to women I just met, in addition to my years of study in SS, helped me to very quickly step up my game to a place where I am fairly successful at this point in my life.

I have also met, hung out with, and sarged with some of the best in the community. This includes Swinggcat, Papa, Tyler Durden, Mystery, Style, Craig, Road King, Zan, Maddash, Christophe, Little Big Dick, Orion, Harmless, Clifford, Sick Boy, The One, Dreamweaver, Ross Jeffries, Alphamale, J-Dog, Masterclass, Herbal, 26, Merovingian, and a variety of other people with ridiculous made-up names just like me. =)

My associations with these guys has not only drastically improved my game, but given me incredible insight into this sick, petty, amazing, wonderful, scary, funny, sad, and incredibly fascinating community I’ve become a part of. So much so, that I’ve become a bit of a “celebrity” because of my association with various individuals and e-mail lists where I am usually one of the few posting advice that makes some semblance of sense.

I am also a member of Mystery’s Lounge, an invite-only message board reserved for some of the best of the best when it comes to seduction and pick-up artistry. Through Mystery’s Lounge, I have met some incredible people and made some extraordinary friends. But a while back there was a bit of a dispute on the board, one which I felt destroyed the sense of community that had existed up to that point, and one in which Mystery himself instigated. I voiced my displeasure with his decision, and he reponded back to me with something along the lines of:

“If you want to be in the Alpha crowd, you gotta be alpha. if not, branch off of the lounge and make your own lounge.”

Well, I don’t want to make my own lounge. I really don’t want to deal with the trouble of “competing” with Mystery or ASF or any other online seduction forum. In fact, I could care less what other people think/feel/say about any of this stuff anymore, simply because I realized that the more about this stuff I read, the less I actually learned.

I’ve started THUNDERCAT’S LAIR not to compete with anybody, or prove anybody wrong, or make anybody look like a fool or a fake. Rather, I created it to share my experiences with others in a format where I do not feel like I am subject to other people’s approval in order to advance. What you will see on this site will be my own thoughts, feelings, and experiences and I advance in my never ending quest to get pussy.

I can’t promise you that it will always be interesting, or enlightening, or even helpful. All I can say is that it will be the truth as I see it from my experiences.

That is a promise.

And that is why they call me…

Thundercat

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