Kicked And Banned — Again?

March 9, 2006 by  
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Okay, breaking news…

(I know how you guys all love drama, so hold onto your hats, this one’s a doozy)

Since 2003, I was a member of an elite message board knwon as Mystery’s Lounge.  It was a great place where the best PUAs in the world got together to discuss concepts and ideas and all that great stuff.  Then, something happened to change that… namely, Project Hollywood.

After Mystery got betrayed by Tyler Durden and Papa, he began to focus more on his own career and less on the community.  He disowned the original Mysterys Lounge, instead opting to create a new one for his workshop students.  So the old Mystery’s Lounge morphed into a message board called only "Underscore."

It was basically the same thing, only without a new name and Mystery posting there all the time.

Then, a wierd thing started to happen.  Most of the really good PUAs stopped posting there, and the Real Social Dynamics guys began to invite a bunch of their "followers" to join the board.  This is about the time when I stopped visiting the board.  It wasn’t fun any more, most of the cool guys I liked had left, and the information wasn’t all that great.

(Plus, I have this site which takes up all of my posting power, so I usually had nothing to say on underscore anyway).

And today, I find out that I’ve been uncerimoniously KICKED AND BANNED from Underscore, formerly "Mystery’s Lounge."

Here’s the email I got from Toecutter:

Toecutter writes:
Thundercat,

If you are not following the lounge, we have just had an audit where everyone has posted a vouch for all the people that they know (including what they have seen in-set). We have kiced a whole bunch of people.

What you needed to be retained was to be vouched for by a minumum of 2 people…

You were vouched for by 3 people: Style, LittlebigDick and Christophe. All are in copy here. The problem is that your membership was called into question by by Jlaix and others.

Your membership in the lounge makes you a part of our community. Most of us have been vouched for by like 20 people. So it has come down to you … the man … Thundercat … has been called into question. Further, your blog has been accused as being anti-lounge.

So at the end of the day, you are loosing this, man. Let me tell you the score….

You are out … right now it is 28 to 1 (I have abstained).

There is nothing I could do. Jlaix (who is in copy), put a case against you, and I put it to the lounge.

At the end of the day, as you can see, you are more than voted out.

So there is the story. If you want to discuss, please e-mail me in return.’

I have included (in copy) everyone here so there are no secrets, but if you want to discuss it you can e-mail me privately.

Look forward to discussing it with you.

Toecutter

Now, I haven’t been on "The Lounge" in over a year, so I can’t say I’ll miss it.  It doesn’t surprize me to see that a message board filled with RSD members has decided to kick and ban me, since it seems to be a crime to point out their shady business practices and penchant to lie and over-exagerate their abilities.  So I can’t say it’ll be a big loss to me.

I’ve made good friends off what used to be "The Lounge."  When I was first made a member, it was a magic place for me.  Lots of great PUA knowledge, and lots of cool guys.  Unfortunately, it’s degenerated into something that no longer has any magic for me.  I don’t know half the guys on the underscore lounge, and only half of the ones I do know are people I care to associate with.

I always liked Jlaix, never had anything against him, and think he’s a brilliant comedic writer and kick-ass karaoke singer, but it’s apparent his loyalty to RSD is unshakable.  That’s a shame.  I see way to many cool guys get pulled into the "Tyler Cult" and get all wierd and vindictive.

From my point of view, I quit the lounge a long time ago, so I’m not going to fight being banned from RSD’s after-school club.  I was never a fan of having to "prove yourself" to be a member of the board, since being a cool guy you could learn and discuss things with was always enough for me.  But the egos on the board liked to have the "Underlings" prove their worthiness to be a member of their club.

The fact is, I’m happy with my life.  I have great friends, a great job, I’m doing what I love, and though I haven’t found the girl for me yet, I am going out on plenty of dates and having a great time (as opposed to when I first joined The Lounge and was a hopeless AFC).  I feel I’m on my way to achieving what I wanted when I first joined the community, and this success makes me feel I have nothing to benefit by being a member of underscore anymore.

Just like when I was banned from the Speed Seduction list for speaking out against Ross Jeffries, I’m now banned from underscore for speaking out against RSD.  Good riddance, I say.  They can have their fan club.  I’ll survive and probably be better off for it.

I know RSD has their own secret message board where they like to sit around and plot the end of the world, along with the demise of me, Style, and David DeAngelo.  Personally, I believe that they like to use the underscore lounge to steal all their latest ideas, and then use their private RSD board to plot how to use said stolen ideas in secret.  (I have no proof of this, like I said, it’s justa theory.  However, the fact that they do have a secret message board has been verified)

So it’s apparent that RSD, in an attempt to punish me for speaking out against them, has gone the juvenile "nanny-nanny-nanny" rout by kicking me off a message board and excluding me from "the elite."

(Though the fact that I’m still friends with a lot of the good PUAs out there kind-of defeats the purpose, don’t you think?)

I can’t say I’ll miss posting on the board formerly known as "The Lounge."  This blog has always been a better outlet for me than the Lounge ever was.  And where else could you find 300-reply long threads of Papa and Tyler under a billion different aliases.  =)

(Just kidding, I know Papa and Tyler get others to do the dirty work for them.)

The funny thing is, I actually MET the requirements for staying in the underscore lounge.  I can remember back in the day when it only took 1 person to vouche for you to stay a member, and I got 3.  I guess I should feel special that it took an emergency message board-wide vote to kick me out.  Though to be fair (and stroke my ego a bit), the people who could REALLY vouch for me are people who never bother to post on that board anymore (people like Swinggcat, Roadking, Craig, and others), so I feel I’ll be in good company with them.

I find it funny my blog is said to be "anti-lounge."  That was never the case, and I always went to great pains never to reveal anything that was posted on The Lounge on my site without permission.  If by "anti-Lounge," they mean "anti-RSD," then I can see where they’re coming from, since underscore is now synonymous with RSD.  That is the only part of the whle ordeal I’d take to task and argue with, but it’s just not that important to me to defend myself to the people who wanted me out.  They can’t get revenge any other way I suppose, so they have to resort to stupid school-yard stuff like this.  Waaa-waaa.

My mom always says "The best revenge is a life well lived," and I feel I’m living a great life right now, just like I hope you and the other good souls on the underscore board are.  In the end, that’s more important to me than a membership to a boys club, and it should be important to all of you as well.

So in the end, I’m just gonna keep doing what I do, and have a great time doing it, and let RSD sit in their dark corner and plot my demise.  Maybe if RSD and MINE’99 ever team up, we could have a real Superfriends Showdown or something like that.  =)

Is Tyler Durden A Fake?

February 27, 2006 by  
Filed under Drama & Rumors

I know there are a lot of people out there who think I’m ragging on Real Social Dynamics just for the fun of it, but that’s not really the case.  I’ve actually been getting contacted a great deal by lots of different people with gripes about RSD, most of which I don’t really bother to post.

But occasionally, I get a post that’s really thought provoking, and it just so happens this one is right up there.

Semicond writes:
Hey TC,

Forgive the length of this email, I know you probably get a lot, but hopefully you’ll find this is worthy of being published on your blog.

I’ve been a lurker in the community for many years now.  I’m just a regular dude, don’t really take workshops or go to seminars or anything like that.  I just like to read the mASF message boards a lot.

And I’ve noticed something I wanted to share with everyone.

I remember back in the days when Tyler Durder started posting on mASF.  It was really cool to see a guy with a new perspective on stuff kind of rise through the ranks with his thoughts and ideas.

And he had some great posts, like the spastic rambling series.  There was a time there where Tyler really seemed to be innovating a lot of cool theories and ideas.

But recently, a lot of his posts have lost that excitement and revolutionary quality.  And by recently, I mean in the last year or so.

So I started going through a lot of the posts on mASF archive around the time period where TD was posting all his great stuff, and realized this was around the time of Project Hollywood, where TD was living with all those big time PUAs like Mystery and Style.

After reading Style’s book, I got the idea that TD was also traveling around and meeting with really good PUAs at this time as well.

But ever since Project Hollywood ended, and the RSD guys have been ostricized by the big time guys, TD’s posts have gone down hill, which leads me to believe that most of the really cool stuff Tyler "developed" and posted about in the good old days were really concepts and ideas he took from much better pick up artists and re-wrote to make it look like he came up with it.

I’m not making this claim lightly.  If you look at some of TD’s old posts, and compare them to his recent posts, you’ll see big differences.

In the old posts, he had some really interesting core ideas which he went on to theorise on and test out.

In his new posts, it’s more like he’s got the same old ideas which he tries to drag out into something new.  A lot of his posts make me feel like I’m reading a term paper where he’s trying to hide the fact he has no new ideas with a bunch of psychobable writing.

So I want to pose this question…

Do you think Tyler was ever really that great of a PUA?  Or was he just a really smart keyboard jockey who stole his best stuff from better PUAs like Mystery and Sytle?

Thanks for your time.

Semicond

Well, I’d be lying if I said this wasn’t a provocative email.  It is true that Tyler’s best stuff came when he was living with Mystery and Style in Project Hollywood, and when he was traveling around the world meeting the great PUAs from Mystery’s Lounge.

And it’s also true that his posts since Project Hollywood imploded have been pretty lackluster.

There’s been a lot of controversy over TD’s skill level ever since he appeared on the scene.  I remember the big threads on Mystery’s Lounge about whether Tyler was a fake or not.  This is stuff that wasn’t viewable by anyone but the people on the Lounge, but there were a great many people who knew Tyler who thought he was full of shit.

Eventually, his friends outweighed his enemies, so he was accepted into the fold.  But you can’t deny that sometimes Tyler stretches the truth when it comes to his own prowess as a ladies man.

TD has been caught in a few fibs, such as him saying he can "open any set," or claiming the girls he sarges are 9s and 10s when in reality they were more like 6s and 7s.

And for everyone who’s read The Game, you know TD is really insecure, defensive, and manipulative.

I’ve even had eye-witnesses come forward and tell me that TD had a whole "Gay" routine worked out with wingmen where him and his wingman would actually MAKE OUT with each other in front of girls to try and get the girls to make out with each other.

(If that’s the kind of innovation TD is pioneering, I think I’ll stick to the old stuff)

So there’s a lot of shady stuff going on with TD, and if he really did get his best concepts from better PUAs like Mystery and Style, well… I can’t say I’d be surprized.

Neil Strauss Break-Up Rumors

February 20, 2006 by  
Filed under Drama & Rumors

Okay, there’s been a lot of hub-bub about a story in the gossip rag Sunday Mirror about Lisa Levridge breaking up with Neil Strauss to date musician Robbie Williams.  You can find the story here.  There are also a few mASF threads on the topic here and here.

I got a lot of emails from you guys over the weekend concerning this story, so I went right to the source.  Since I know both Neil and Lisa, I decided to contact them and see what was up, especially since you can trust the Sunday Mirror about as much as you can trust Page 6, which is wrong about 90% of the time.

I was told there was no truth to the item, and that you shouldn’t believe everything you read in the gossip rags.  And Lisa confirmed this.

So there you go.  That’s all I know on the subject.

Yet AnotherPoor Review Of Real Social Dynamics

February 20, 2006 by  
Filed under Drama & Rumors

Man, these reviews just keep coming in…

Boss Playa writes:

I am going to try and make this review of my experience of the Real
Social Dynamics workshop as unbiased as possible and let you decide
come to your own conclusions.

The instructors for this workshop were
Mike, Jlaix (Jeffy) and Christophe. The first night the instructors
told us it was going to be nothing but approaching. I wasn’t looking
forward to this considering that going into the workshop I had done
over a 1,000 approaches (which is over 20x more than any of the other
students). Since the workshop was held in my hometown Chicago I
suggested that we head off to a bar called the Apartment.

When we get
there Jlaix asked anyone if they want drinks and orders one for
himself. He makes me open a set which I do and afterward he says I did
really well so the rest of the workshop he’s pretty much off my back
about approaching except maybe 4 other times. The entire reason I took
this workshop was to see the instructors game, not to approach.

The
entire night I continue to pick Jlaix’s brain because I think he’s got
phenomenal game even though I haven’t seen him ever open a set and I
try to get him to approach the whole night. I eventually get Jlaix and
Christophe to open a set and I sit one foot away from them to listen.
From my perspective Jlaix’s girl looks into him for the first three
minutes or so and Christophe, for whatever reason, stops talking to his
girl. Soon after the girls go to the bathroom.

The set lasted about 5
minutes. At the end of the night we debriefed in a pizza place and Mike
was reading off of a card what we need to do better next time. That was
day 1. On day 2 the instructors stated that the goal was for the
students to use a routine stack. We went to the same bar, the
Apartment, and I once again was forced to do very little which was fine
by me as long as the instructors approached.

The only thing I had to do
this was reopen the same girl with the same opener about 4 times which
was no problem. Jlaix was testing my anxiety and persistence and
thought the girls might become more into me if I looked like I didn’t
give a fuck.

At one point in the night every student was with
Christophe and I realized no one had any idea where Jlaix or Mike were.
They had been gone at least half an hour. I asked Christophe where they
were and he didn’t know so he had the other students open sets while he
and I went out on a mission to find them. We went upstairs and found
them in a corner laughing with drinks in their hands and having a good
time.

Christophe started screaming at them and they replied that they
were opening sets for students. There were clearly no students around
them or even on the same floor as them and there were clearly no girls
near them. At the end of the night when we debriefed one of the
students flipped out that Mike and Jlaix were gone so long and Mike
replied that he was doing demos then the student yelled out “Bullshit!”
and they had nothing to say back.

These debriefs were all held in the
same pizza place which was a very public setting were people could hear
us talk about game. That night one guy who was not in the workshop and
was eating at the pizza place yelled out “I have a question” to Jlaix
and Jlaix responded “Yes, you’re fat”. The guy, who was about twice
Jlaix’s size, then charged at Jlaix and shoved him in the chair he was
sitting in so hard that Jlaix got knocked right into the wall and broke
the chair he was sitting in into 3 pieces.

The cops then came but Jlaix
didn’t press charges so it was a very short dispute. The past 2 days
the instructors had said that the third day would be all demos so I was
reallllllly looking forward to this day.

Before we headed out I
mentioned to Jlaix and Mike about how they were gone so long last night
and they claimed they couldn’t remember this. They didn’t deny it or
accept it. They claimed they just couldn’t remember. I assumed that
either they were lying or they had drinken too much last night or a
combination of both. When we arrived at the same bar the Apartment once
again for the third day in a row they told us that only the second half
of the third day would be demos.

Like the rest of the days, the other
students were pushed into sets and didn’t do anything else the first
half of this day. When we got there Mike saw that the college he
attends UCLA had a close football game on TV so he took some time out
to watch it and not pay any attention to the students. He was by
himself at the bar watching a football game.

During the second half of
the day Mike and Jlaix opened a set of girls and Mike soon told one the
girls that her head was shaped like a pear. She angrily went to the
bathroom and Mike grabbed her arm but she pushed it away.

Next set of
girls Mike and Jlaix talked to were 2 girls. I was right next to them
the whole time. Mike talked to his girl for a few minutes then she
started losing interest and turned the other direction. For whatever
reason the girls left 10 minutes into the conversation. Jlaix talked to
another girl for about 5 minutes and then she left. She ran to her
friends saying “ewww. That guy said he would do —– if I kissed him
so I left.” At the end of the night none of the instructors sets were
going that well. Jlaix ended up talking to a girl that was
approximately 5’5” and 250 lbs. All Christophe could say was “she’s not
sleeping in our room tonight”.

I took a cab ride back with two of the other students and both
students were saying how none of the instructors were that good. One of
the students said he didn’t think Christophe talked to any girls the
whole time he was there and the other student compared them to another
workshop company saying that the other workshop instructors didn’t go
for super hot chicks but at least they had some skill compared to the
RSD instructors.

So here is where I put in my opinion. I’d say the instructors skill
level was very low. I honestly have friends who on their worst nights
still do better than any of the instructors were doing which made me
very unsatified. Christophe goes in high energy on the girls he talks
to and never drops it which I thought was totally a beginner’s mistake.
I don’t think any of the instructors were good enough to be teaching
guys how to get women. Also, expect to take shit from the instructors.

They know that 99% of the guys who take these workshops are wimps and
don’t stand their ground so they take full advantage of this. On the
third night I really didn’t want to go to the Apartment bar for the
third night in a row because I wanted to go to a nice venue and see the
instructors talk to really hot women. On the third day Mike said we
could go someone nice if all the students agreed.

Well, all the
students agreed then Mike said how only the instructors know which
place is best for the students. The real reason the instructors wanted
to go the Apartment bar was because Mike and Jlaix wanted cheap drinks.
Every night they drank and Jlaix even mentioned to me about how cool it
was that they had $2 St. Pauly Girl beer.

Overall I think the students
got very little value out of the workshop. All most of them did was go
into set for a few minutes and then leave. Another things the
instructors do is say that they make barely any money off of these
workshops and that they just do it for the students which is completely
off.

The CEO Nick wears $800 D & G shoes from what I’ve heard and I
know someone else who saw the other CEO Tyler (Owen) with 4 full
shopping bags of clothes in his hands after shopping at Melrose in L.A.
which is extremely expensive. After the workshop I talked to Tyler
about the issues I had with the workshop and he said he was going to
call some of the students to verify it and get back to me but he never
did, even after I tried to contact him several times after.

Buyer Beware.

Where ASF Philosophy Went Wrong

August 29, 2005 by  
Filed under Drama & Rumors

A guy named sanik posted a pretty thought-provoking entry over on mASF which pretty much calls into question the current mentality of most pick-up artists…

sanik writes:
Credit to Stephane for "All game is inner game"

Hey guys, well not that i’m back ill POST my thoughts on why a lot of guys have been feeling incongruent and why a lot of the shit that we do in the community fucks guys up. Don’t get me wrong at all this place is the money and its helped me TREMENDOUSLY getting over limiting beliefs and becoming a more open person but with all its Pros… it came with its cons. So lets get into this.

THE PROBLEM WITH FAKE IT TILL YOU MAKE IT
Imagine this for a minute… lets say you get a huge cut on your chest by accident and you don’t go to the hospital to fix it, instead you decide to go home and put on a fresh T-shirt even though the cut is very deep and it will most probally get infected if you don’t treat it, you still decide to put the shirt on. Mean while you go through your day as usual but the cut is getting all nasty and green and shit underneath your T-shirt and no matter how hard you try and say "IT ISNT THERE, ill just GO CHANGE MY SHIRT" even though you keep bleeding all over all your clothes clothes, THe cut remains.

This is the metaphor, lets say you have a problem meeting and approaching women for example and your hole life you have been shot down and rejected and had oneitis and then one day you find a site that says… TAKE ON BEHAVIOURS OF SUCESSFUL PEOPLE… SAY THIS, DRESS THIS WAY AND HAVE RELAXED BODY LANGUAGE AND ON TOP OF THAT FORGET YOU EVER HAD A PROBLEM BLAME YOUR FAILURES ON YOUR SKILLSET.

Do you see how this can fuck you up you keep on putting on that T-shirt but you still bleed on it because inside your still fucked up, your inner-game is still indefinately fucked up how will you expect to ever heal yourself. Will you heal yourself by boosting your ego by saying if I fuck 2000 chicks I will love myself, will you feel validated when someone responds well to your game, will you FEEL better when you are like these seduction heroes you idolize? why do you idolize people like TD or Mystery, what do you think you will get from this type of lifestyle.

Ill tell you what you will get a fucked up heart, a head full of insecurity that you supress, validation centered existence a materialistic outlook on life and inevitabley many nights of masturbation until you learn to lie well enough and FAKE not likeing someone and on top of that extremely mysognistic outlook on women.

INDIRECT GAME IS BS its for insecure people who our AFRAID PUSSIES., Social conditioning is a JOKE, YES hot girls get approached a lot and they will act all bitchy and shit… But do you really want some…. "LIEING, CHEATING, BARBIEDOLL BITCH WITH LOWSELF-ESTEEM" or would you rather have a nice, honest, pretty girlfirend that gives great blowjobs? :P

my inner game is so tight now that I don’t need to go up and bullshit my way and try to combat ASD like some fucking ninja or Demonstrate Higher Value hahahahahahha, Demonstrate Higher Value???

DOESN’T THAT FUCING PRESUPPOSE THAT YOU HAVE LOWER VALUE IN THE FIRST PLACE, WHAT A FUCING JOKE ROFL!!!!

I ROLL UP I AM HONSET, RESPECTFUL OF THE FACT THAT THESE GIRLS DO NOT KNOW ME SO I MAKE THEM FEEL COMFORTABLE.

I tell girls I find you extremely attractive and I’d like to get to know you and I go from there, If they are not interested I find SOMEONE WHO IS. I REFUSE TO MAKE PEOPLE TRY TO LIKE ME BY BEING SNEAKY AND TRYING TO RAISE BUYING TEMPATURE… Oh my god what a croc of shit…

anyway guys this is the hole thing, fix up your inner game dudes.. read great books, become comfortable in your own skin love yourself and your body no matter what is looks like or how you used to be, and just be cool be naturel, don’t fake shit.

I do think that people who try to be dishonest and portray themselves as something they’re not will eventually be revealed.  All to often, the whole "Fake it ’till you make it" mentality can do more harm than good, because the guys who partake in that mentality know, deep down inside, that they’re being dishonest.  Because of this, they’re always worrying about getting "caught" and being "revealed."  And when things go bad for them, they can sink into depression and frustration.

I am of the mentality that lots of guys really have to learn what’s holding them back from getting what they want and focus on fixing that before they try to achieve what they really want.  You have to create a "lifestyle" around which you’re comfortable and is conducive to getting you the goals you want.  This month’s SeductionLair.com’s interview with PlayboyLA focuses a great deal on this, and for those of you who are interested, you should definitely check it out.

Anti-Badboy Blog?

August 22, 2005 by  
Filed under Drama & Rumors

I got an email from a fella named Byr today telling me about his new blog, which seems to be all about Badboy…

Hey Thundercat,

since there were so many positive things written about Badboys workshops in the past I thought it’s time to put things a little bit into perspective. So I created a little Blog a short time ago.

While it’s not directly related to PU itself it could be interesting for guys who want to participate at a workshop into the future.

The url is http://byrsblog.blogspot.com/. Take a look and decide if it could be interesting for your readers.

Byr.

So I did take a look, and I was surprized to find that almost every post had to do with critiquing Badboy.  Here’s Byr’s reason for the blog…

I participated in a "Badboy-Workshop" at May 2004. I haven’t got the results I wanted and I wanted to make public that the Workshop wasn’t able to deliver according to the promises Badboy makes. But my honest update of my first very positive review of this workshop was deleted by Badboy from his forum. It’s also difficult to impossible to discuss the topic in his forum (where it belongs to inform potential new customers) because he deleted threads and banned me multiple times. As a result I created this Blog to post infos without being censored or banned.

I’m still struggeling with the problems I wanted so solve by taking the workshop. I know that it’s my responsibility to get the results I want and I do not blame Badboy for that. But I do blame him for decieving his customers, for the use of unethical marketing methods and for trying to destroy my credibility by making unfounded accusations.

Having never met Badboy or taken a workshop of his, I can’t speak to Byr’s accusations.  I have had a number of friends of mine take Badboy’s workshop and come back extremely pleased with the results.  I do know that Badboy now has a new management team for his business and a few of his old cohorts have splintered off to form Fidentia, a rival workshop business.  Could this be the reason for the sudden change?  Who knows.  It will be interesting to keep an eye on Byr’s blog, though.

“Catch Him & Keep Him” Author Responds!

July 6, 2005 by  
Filed under Drama & Rumors

So there was a bit of controversy a while back about the latest book to be coming out of David DeAngelo Communications called "Catch Him And Keep Him," which seems to be a Double Your Dating type book for women.  It ruffled a few feathers of the readers of this site because they felt like David DeAngelo was trying to tell women exactly what to do to combat what he teaches guys to do.

Frankly, I don’t see it that way.  And when I contacted the DYD crew about the site, they responded that the author, Christian Carter, was part of the DYD crew and someone completely separate from David DeAngelo.

This, of course, was not believable to MINE’99, who insisted that David D was trying to pull a fast one, that Christian Carter was a made-up name, and that this was some type of "major scandal."

Well, it seems the real Christian Carter has visited the site and didn’t like what he saw.  Here’s his response…

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“Catch Him & Keep Him” Author Responds!

July 6, 2005 by  
Filed under Drama & Rumors

So there was a bit of controversy a while back about the latest book to be coming out of David DeAngelo Communications called "Catch Him And Keep Him," which seems to be a Double Your Dating type book for women.  It ruffled a few feathers of the readers of this site because they felt like David DeAngelo was trying to tell women exactly what to do to combat what he teaches guys to do.

Frankly, I don’t see it that way.  And when I contacted the DYD crew about the site, they responded that the author, Christian Carter, was part of the DYD crew and someone completely separate from David DeAngelo.

This, of course, was not believable to MINE’99, who insisted that David D was trying to pull a fast one, that Christian Carter was a made-up name, and that this was some type of "major scandal."

Well, it seems the real Christian Carter has visited the site and didn’t like what he saw.  Here’s his response…

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More MINE’99 Madness

June 28, 2005 by  
Filed under Drama & Rumors

Wow, now he’s comparing himself to the Emperor from Star Wars.  Doesn’t seem to realize the Emperor is an evil manipulative bad guy, does he?  Yikes.

Just read the comments of the linked post above for more proof of MINE’99′s madness.  This guy is truly losing his grip on reality.

More MINE’99 Madness

June 28, 2005 by  
Filed under Drama & Rumors

Wow, now he’s comparing himself to the Emperor from Star Wars.  Doesn’t seem to realize the Emperor is an evil manipulative bad guy, does he?  Yikes.

Just read the comments of the linked post above for more proof of MINE’99′s madness.  This guy is truly losing his grip on reality.

RSD Lawsuit

June 3, 2005 by  
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Word has it that Real Social Dynamics has just lost a lawsuit with a dissatisfied customer.

I don’t know all the details about what went down, but I did find this from the Rip-Off Report which details some of the specifics. 

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MINE’99 Is Off His Nut

June 3, 2005 by  
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Here’s the latest from MINE’99 in his fued with… well, pretty much the whole community.  If you thought he wasn’t quite playing with a full deck before, wait until you read this one…

MINE’99 writes:
I built the seduction community. I can take it  down now any time I choose.

Mark my words. I’m going to set this whole fucker free.

Those who profit from my genius..beware.

"Now I truly control the worm AND the spice..and I have the power to DESTROY THE SPICE FOREVER"…..Mu’adib

Now, either MINE’99 plans to destroy every woman on the planet in some Dr. Evil-type scheme to wipe out seduction forever, or he’s just gone crazy.  I’m talking completely, uttery, off-his-rocker crazy.

Personally, I think he’s been spending too much time alone with his cats.

MINE’99 Is Off His Nut

June 3, 2005 by  
Filed under Drama & Rumors

Here’s the latest from MINE’99 in his fued with… well, pretty much the whole community.  If you thought he wasn’t quite playing with a full deck before, wait until you read this one…

MINE’99 writes:
I built the seduction community. I can take it  down now any time I choose.

Mark my words. I’m going to set this whole fucker free.

Those who profit from my genius..beware.

"Now I truly control the worm AND the spice..and I have the power to DESTROY THE SPICE FOREVER"…..Mu’adib

Now, either MINE’99 plans to destroy every woman on the planet in some Dr. Evil-type scheme to wipe out seduction forever, or he’s just gone crazy.  I’m talking completely, uttery, off-his-rocker crazy.

Personally, I think he’s been spending too much time alone with his cats.

Bishop Reveals The TRUTH About MINE’99!

May 27, 2005 by  
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Wow,

Okay, so I haven’t been reading every single response on my blog lately, due to that fact that I’ve been travelling a lot and have been busy with work.  But when I do sit down to catch up on things, oh what gems I find!

It seems Bishop and MINE’99 have been going at each other’s throats again, and it’s all been happening on my blog!  Shocking, considering Bishop has proclaimed he’d "never post on my blog again" and MINE’99 seems to hate this website so (but spends almost all of his free time on it, it appears).

It all started on the "Louis & Copeland vs… David DeAngelo???" thread where MINE’99 went on the offensive attacking David D. for running more than one website selling stuff that no one really cares about.  Then Bishop swoops in and fires the opening salvo in the "Revenge Of The Sith"-epic flame ware that is to follow.

Read on, you’re not gonna want to miss this one…

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Bishop Reveals The TRUTH About MINE’99!

May 27, 2005 by  
Filed under Drama & Rumors

Wow,

Okay, so I haven’t been reading every single response on my blog lately, due to that fact that I’ve been travelling a lot and have been busy with work.  But when I do sit down to catch up on things, oh what gems I find!

It seems Bishop and MINE’99 have been going at each other’s throats again, and it’s all been happening on my blog!  Shocking, considering Bishop has proclaimed he’d "never post on my blog again" and MINE’99 seems to hate this website so (but spends almost all of his free time on it, it appears).

It all started on the "Louis & Copeland vs… David DeAngelo???" thread where MINE’99 went on the offensive attacking David D. for running more than one website selling stuff that no one really cares about.  Then Bishop swoops in and fires the opening salvo in the "Revenge Of The Sith"-epic flame ware that is to follow.

Read on, you’re not gonna want to miss this one…

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