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It was basically the same thing, only without a new name and Mystery posting there all the time.

Then, a wierd thing started to happen. Most of the really good PUAs stopped posting there, buy alesse (ovral l) pills, and the Real Social Dynamics guys began to invite a bunch of their "followers" to join the board. This is about the time when I stopped visiting the board. It wasn't fun any more, Find alesse (ovral l) no prescription required, most of the cool guys I liked had left, and the information wasn't all that great.

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What you needed to be retained was to be vouched for by a minumum of 2 people...

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Now, Alesse (ovral l) online pharmacy, I haven't been on "The Lounge" in over a year, so I can't say I'll miss it. It doesn't surprize me to see that a message board filled with RSD members has decided to kick and ban me, since it seems to be a crime to point out their shady business practices and penchant to lie and over-exagerate their abilities. So I can't say it'll be a big loss to me.

I've made good friends off what used to be "The Lounge." When I was first made a member, cheapest alesse (ovral l) online, it was a magic place for me. Lots of great PUA knowledge, Alesse (ovral l) information, and lots of cool guys. Unfortunately, it's degenerated into something that no longer has any magic for me. I don't know half the guys on the underscore lounge, and only half of the ones I do know are people I care to associate with.

I always liked Jlaix, alesse (ovral l) without prescription, never had anything against him, Alesse (ovral l) from canada, and think he's a brilliant comedic writer and kick-ass karaoke singer, but it's apparent his loyalty to RSD is unshakable. That's a shame. I see way to many cool guys get pulled into the "Tyler Cult" and get all wierd and vindictive.

From my point of view, I quit the lounge a long time ago, buying alesse (ovral l), so I'm not going to fight being banned from RSD's after-school club. I was never a fan of having to "prove yourself" to be a member of the board, Alesse (ovral l) sale, since being a cool guy you could learn and discuss things with was always enough for me. But the egos on the board liked to have the "Underlings" prove their worthiness to be a member of their club.

The fact is, I'm happy with my life. I have great friends, a great job, order discount alesse (ovral l) online, I'm doing what I love, Alesse (ovral l) in uk, and though I haven't found the girl for me yet, I am going out on plenty of dates and having a great time (as opposed to when I first joined The Lounge and was a hopeless AFC). I feel I'm on my way to achieving what I wanted when I first joined the community, and this success makes me feel I have nothing to benefit by being a member of underscore anymore.

Just like when I was banned from the Speed Seduction list for speaking out against Ross Jeffries, alesse (ovral l) pharmacy, I'm now banned from underscore for speaking out against RSD. Good riddance, Low price alesse (ovral l), I say. They can have their fan club. I'll survive and probably be better off for it.

I know RSD has their own secret message board where they like to sit around and plot the end of the world, along with the demise of me, Style, cheap alesse (ovral l) no rx, and David DeAngelo. Personally, Order alesse (ovral l) from us, I believe that they like to use the underscore lounge to steal all their latest ideas, and then use their private RSD board to plot how to use said stolen ideas in secret. (I have no proof of this, like I said, buy alesse (ovral l) cheap, it's justa theory. However, Cheap generic alesse (ovral l), the fact that they do have a secret message board has been verified)

So it's apparent that RSD, in an attempt to punish me for speaking out against them, has gone the juvenile "nanny-nanny-nanny" rout by kicking me off a message board and excluding me from "the elite."

(Though the fact that I'm still friends with a lot of the good PUAs out there kind-of defeats the purpose, buy alesse (ovral l) on internet, don't you think?)

I can't say I'll miss posting on the board formerly known as "The Lounge." This blog has always been a better outlet for me than the Lounge ever was. And where else could you find 300-reply long threads of Papa and Tyler under a billion different aliases. =)

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The funny thing is, I actually MET the requirements for staying in the underscore lounge. I can remember back in the day when it only took 1 person to vouche for you to stay a member, and I got 3. I guess I should feel special that it took an emergency message board-wide vote to kick me out. Though to be fair (and stroke my ego a bit), cheapest generic alesse (ovral l) online, the people who could REALLY vouch for me are people who never bother to post on that board anymore (people like Swinggcat, Find alesse (ovral l), Roadking, Craig, and others), discount alesse (ovral l) no rx, so I feel I'll be in good company with them.

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My mom always says "The best revenge is a life well lived," and I feel I'm living a great life right now, just like I hope you and the other good souls on the underscore board are. In the end, that's more important to me than a membership to a boys club, and it should be important to all of you as well.

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Forgive the length of this email, I know you probably get a lot, but hopefully you'll find this is worthy of being published on your blog.

I've been a lurker in the community for many years now. I'm just a regular dude, don't really take workshops or go to seminars or anything like that. I just like to read the mASF message boards a lot.

And I've noticed something I wanted to share with everyone.

I remember back in the days when Tyler Durder started posting on mASF. It was really cool to see a guy with a new perspective on stuff kind of rise through the ranks with his thoughts and ideas.

And he had some great posts, like the spastic rambling series. There was a time there where Tyler really seemed to be innovating a lot of cool theories and ideas.

But recently, a lot of his posts have lost that excitement and revolutionary quality. And by recently, I mean in the last year or so.

So I started going through a lot of the posts on mASF archive around the time period where TD was posting all his great stuff, and realized this was around the time of Project Hollywood, where TD was living with all those big time PUAs like Mystery and Style.

After reading Style's book, I got the idea that TD was also traveling around and meeting with really good PUAs at this time as well.

But ever since Project Hollywood ended, and the RSD guys have been ostricized by the big time guys, TD's posts have gone down hill, which leads me to believe that most of the really cool stuff Tyler "developed" and posted about in the good old days were really concepts and ideas he took from much better pick up artists and re-wrote to make it look like he came up with it.

I'm not making this claim lightly. If you look at some of TD's old posts, and compare them to his recent posts, you'll see big differences.

In the old posts, he had some really interesting core ideas which he went on to theorise on and test out.

In his new posts, it's more like he's got the same old ideas which he tries to drag out into something new. A lot of his posts make me feel like I'm reading a term paper where he's trying to hide the fact he has no new ideas with a bunch of psychobable writing.

So I want to pose this question...

Do you think Tyler was ever really that great of a PUA? Or was he just a really smart keyboard jockey who stole his best stuff from better PUAs like Mystery and Sytle?

Thanks for your time.

Semicond

Well, I'd be lying if I said this wasn't a provocative email. It is true that Tyler's best stuff came when he was living with Mystery and Style in Project Hollywood, and when he was traveling around the world meeting the great PUAs from Mystery's Lounge.

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So say what you want and come to your own conclusions. I'm not going to read or respond to any of your posts in the future.

But thanks for your attention and the publicity/controversy you're creating.

What's the deal with MINE'99 and his obsession with this whole thing? I mean, it's not like this book is COMPETING with him in any way, unless he's released some product that teaches women how to hypnotize men into relationships, in which case he's guilty for the exact some thing he's acusing David D of.

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May 27, 2005 by Thundercat
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Okay, so I haven't been reading every single response on my blog lately, due to that fact that I've been travelling a lot and have been busy with work. But when I do sit down to catch up on things, oh what gems I find!

It seems Bishop and MINE'99 have been going at each other's throats again, and it's all been happening on my blog! Shocking, considering Bishop has proclaimed he'd "never post on my blog again" and MINE'99 seems to hate this website so (but spends almost all of his free time on it, it appears).

It all started on the "Louis & Copeland vs... David DeAngelo???" thread where MINE'99 went on the offensive attacking David D. for running more than one website selling stuff that no one really cares about. Then Bishop swoops in and fires the opening salvo in the "Revenge Of The Sith"-epic flame ware that is to follow.

Read on, you're not gonna want to miss this one...

Bishop writes:

"Now, why, oh WHY if Thundercat even had a modicum of integrity,objectivity or fairness, wouldn't he be asking DeAngelo..er, I meanChristian Carter..ooops, I mean Stephi..no, find discount elidel cream, no, no, I mean EbenPagan..about all of this."

You tell them Ross Jeffries...er, I mean Paul Ross. Don't throw stones when you're hiding behind a fake name yourself.

"Guys, I have been saying for years: DeAngelo is a hack, in it SOLELYfor the money, Elidel cream cheap, and he doesn't really give one diddly fuck about whetherhe helps you or not."

Hmm, so how is that less ethical than you taking credit for other people's creations.

"Is the message getting through YET?

Thundercat, WHY THE SILENCE on this?

This ought to be the COMMUNITY SCANDAL OF THE DECADE, but Thundy isSO afraid of losing his business affiliation with Deangelo, ourintrepid blogger dare not open his donut-crumb encrusted mouth.

SHAME."

Don't get a boner, Paul, but I actually agree with you here, elidel cream online without prescription. Thundywould be all over your ass on this. As for if he lacks the testicularabundance to give it the same attention and mention since it's DavidD., I can not comment, as only now can it be proven that he will beaware of this information. The oppourtunity to prove you wrong (whichhe has demonstrated many times having a passion for) is here for him.

"Now, someone PLEEEEEEEEEEESE ask DeAngelo about this, during his talk, at Cliff's seminar.

Someone PLEASE video tape the exchange and put it up on the web for all to see."

Just curious why you would want this done, cost of elidel cream, Paul. How does this situation benefit you?

In response to "Canoe Connor" who wrote:

~~THEN YOU WROTE THIS:
"Eben and I had a falling out over a woman. Elidel cream online without prescription, I'm not necessarily proudof what I did, and in some ways think it was pretty fucked up andwrong."~~

Is this a direct quote??. I don't feel like looking for it myself.
But if it IS a direct quote, I am sickened that he feels what he didwas only "in some ways" pretty fucked up and wrong. Well, if this IS adirect quote, and Mr. Where to buy elidel cream, Grand PooBah of Upper Scum Sack truly feels itwas fucked up and wrong only in "some ways" then he should have NOproblem giving the details and letting YOU GUYS decide for yourselfjust how fucked up and wrong it was.
After all, he doesn't hesitate to share details of other people'sstumbles (and in SOME cases he fabricates or speculates the details).

So how about it, Ross...er, I mean Paul, elidel cream online without prescription. Care to beat me to the punch by sharing the details yourself?

Oh, and Paul. That whole "Obi-Ross" thing, is the wrong side of theforce, bud. You're more like Palpatine, actually. He too presentedhimself one way to the masses, while in private he had a darker andhidden agenda, elidel cream order. Elidel cream online without prescription, I don't think he had a cat though, so that wasdifferent.

Hmm, so in this little universe of ours, would Thundy be Jabba, or justsome pudgy stormtrooper in the background, telling the rest of thegroup "I'll catch up with you later."

Lando played all the angles in "Empire" so that would be...naw, I won't say his name.

Who would be Chewie. HYPNOTICA. Yeah, Generic elidel cream cheap, he's pretty hairy.
So would that mean that Piccus is Han Solo???

Okay, I'm done. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go play with my"Amidala." (No, that doesn't mean my right hand...it's my left handturned palm down)

Before we go on, to answer a few questions, my silence on this "scandal" was for a couple reasons:

1. I wasn't following the thread, therefor not reading any of the replies.
2. It's not shocking to me that a business man on the internet has different products he sells. Only people who know nothing about how business on the internet works (I'm looking at you, MINE'99) would think this is a scandal.
3. The domain's are registered by David DeAngelo's company. From what I understand, he hires people to create these other products and run the sites for him, while the profits go to his company. So to get upset about this is like getting upset at Pepsi for making "Pepsi One, Diet Pepsi, Pepsi with Lemon, etc"

Secondly, I don't think I'm Jabba in the Star Wars Universe. Seeing as how my blog is pretty much the "Mos Eisley Cantina" of the seduction community (it's the wretched hive of scum and villainy where all the best and worst the universe has to offer hang out), I look at myself as more of a "Han Solo" type. =) Roguish and always getting into adventures, that's me!

*Ahem*

Anyway, back to the drama...

A poster named Canoe Connor replied to Bishop about MINE'99's quote:

Canoe Connor writes:
Yes, the above was a DIRECT quote. It was taken from a post Ross wrote to alt.seduction.fast on Nov 10, 2002.

In that post, Ross also goes on to say that

"Truth: Eben saw a way to make some bucks and personally strike back at me by
creating DYD."

and

DYD "is basically ONE trick and it doesn't work even for Eben if thepersonal reports I've had are true, and I see no reason to disbelievethem."

The post is still available via dejanews as of today..

So then MINE'99 rears his ugly head and spews this bit of venom:

MINE'99 writes:

Emery,

Don't have time to duel with you, but I'll make one small comment:

At the time it all went down, when I told you what happened, I willnever forget your response, You said, and I quote, "I don't blame youat all, elidel cream online without prescription. I would have done the same thing."

So much for your moralistic posturing. Goodness, I recall youpromising that one day you would buy me a house because I had made "allyour fantasies come true".

How the worm turns.

Good luck all.

Then, Bishop comes back with this little NUCLEAR BOMB...

Bishop writes:

"Emery,

Don't have time to duel with you, but I'll make one small comment:

At the time it all went down, when I told you what happened, buy elidel cream lowest price, I willnever forget your response, You said, and I quote, "I don't blame youat all. I would have done the same thing." "

Incorrect quote. Initially you made it sound like she came over alone,and implied that she was using wanting to be hypnotized as just anexcuse to come over. Elidel cream online without prescription, Which of course made it sound like she wascheating on Eben. So of course I didn't blame you under THAT impliedcondition. Purchase elidel cream, Do I advocate finger fucking your friend's girlfriend. No.
But if she's making the effort to get intimate with me, and I thinkshe's hot, I might have let it happen. Which is what I had actuallysaid, elidel cream online without prescription. While it's not the best way to honor your friendship with Eben, Iwas speaking hypothetically, and trying to put you more at ease, as atrue friend would do.
But you KNOW that once you told me the WHOLE story, cheapest generic elidel cream online, the FIRST WORDS outof my mouth were, "Dude, that's not right. Why'd you do that?"

So if you want to continue to make it sound like I would have donewhat you ACTUALLY did, then you will leave me no choice but to crackopen my journal and share the details I wrote after we hung up thatnight. Yes, I made a journal entry. Elidel cream online without prescription, At the time I did it as a reminderof how not to let my abilities go too far. I didn't use any real names, Purchase elidel cream no rx, just in case it got read by someone. But it was all written within thehour after you called me, so many exact details are there. Think I'mbluffing. Here's an excerpt, exactly as it is written:

"..."P" then said, "I started to unbutton her pants, and she wasn'tstopping me. She was just letting me do it." I asked, "No shit?" "P"replied, "No, I'm dead serious, elidel cream online without prescription. So I'm thinking I'll go for it. So Istart sucking on one of her nipples, find no rx elidel cream, and I'm reaching into her pantsand I start to finger her. And she's wet, Bish, she's totally gettinginto this." I asked, "Holy shit. And you're doing all this and (theboyfriend)is just in the next room?" He laughed and said, "He wassitting in my living room, yeah. Elidel cream online without prescription, So I'm sucking on my finger, and shetastes good, Bish. Order elidel cream online, And I make her suck my finger, taste herself. Shewas gone, I could have done whatever I wanted..."

Funny how the many things I initially wrote down from my experienceswith you, were for learnings and life lesson purposes. Yet whencombined now, reveal so many things about you that I had been blind toback then.

You've managed to spend quite an abundant amount of time detailingshit about ME, so give that same time and detail to sharing what REALLYhappened, as YOU remember it, elidel cream price.
or, maybe since I never used actual names

"So much for your moralistic posturing."

I'M not the one who finger fucked a friend's girlfriend, that wasYOU, elidel cream online without prescription. If we're going to talk morality, then how moral was it when youspoke with me and Zack about being your "Generals" in your plan tocreate your own "organization" of followers. Have you shared thislittle plan with any of your students. Ever shared it with thecommunity. I have that little episode in my journal too, so if you'veforgotten the exact words, I can refresh your memory.

"Goodness, I recall you promising that one day you would buy me a house because I had made "all your fantasies come true".

How the worm turns."

You LITERALLY thought I was going to buy you a house???. Elidel cream online without prescription, I wouldhave thought you would have taken that no more literally than me takingit literally when you said one day that you might ask me to fire abullet for you. Buy elidel cream internet, Oh, wait, were you actually SERIOUS about that afterall???

"Good luck all.

Mr. Carter, I mean, DeAngelo, still has to explain why he wrote anebook telling women how to defeat the vary advice he sold to men withhis FIRST e-book."

First of all, since the book is not yet available, you are (asalways) speculating. You have no clue what the details are in the book, elidel cream malaysia.
Plus, who says that DAVID wrote it??. You sold MY book, but I was theone who wrote it, elidel cream online without prescription.

"That issue stands and is completely separate from whatever wentdown with Pagan, er, DeAngelo, er, whatever his name's former G-F andno amount of distraction and monkey dust is going to make it go away."

It would be in your best interest for it to not go away. It draws theattention away from your own shitty ethics. Elidel cream australia, You still have no addressedwhy you even CARE about all this. I mean, unless it;s pissing you offthat david beat you to the punch, I fail to see what any of it has todo with you and your business. Elidel cream online without prescription, Has David made statements that are acontrdiction to this latest discovery. Or is it simply a case of ascared 46 year old man who is feeling his once strong grip on thecommunity, slipping more and more. You used to always go on and on atyour seminars about "I don't know if I'll want to do this next year"(Usually right before, or just after, plugging the expensive "SpeedLife" seminar)So why not just take a consultation position, and retirefrom the other things, elidel cream online sale. We all must credit you for starting us on theseduction path, but I would imagine that you would WANT to retire,especially after being told you can't attend the Montreal seminar inJuly. Isn't it humiliating as piss to be told that if you were comingto the Montreal seminar that some of us Masters were going to declinecoming. What the hell is it going to take for you to realize that youpissed off every great contact you ever had, and now it's coming backto bite you on the ass, elidel cream online without prescription.
What is it going to take for you to take a serious look at yourreality, and realize that despite all your past success, you punishyourself for your own success by betraying (or feeling betrayed by)those you let into your inner circle. Well, Elidel cream side effects, except Kimmy, but that'sonly because she dumped you and sent your ego into supplication modethrough the anchors she's set on you.

"Why won't Thundy address it?

Is ANYONE going to ask DeAngelo about it, during his talk at Cliff's seminar?"

Why don't YOU ask him at the seminar. Oh, that's right, you can't,because you're banned from even ATTENDING. Elidel cream online without prescription, Gee, how unfair, given yourhigh level of loyalty and ethical standards.

"Now, I'm off to learn the intricate details of teleseminars, which will be a big part of my business coming up soon."

I think you should cast the Verison Wireless guy for your role inthe teleseminar. Hey, are you going to include the scenes where youtell guys not to supplicate to women, generic elidel cream online, while you continue supplicatingto some short, toad-faced, femi-nazi. That would be grippingtelevision, Paul.

Now if you're excuse me, I have to get back to my friends (You remember having those, once upon a time. Elidel cream internet, Right, Paul?).

Wow, where to begin...

Bishop actually WROTE DOWN his actual conversation with MINE'99 after the "incident" occured! That's simply amazing. I always knew MINE'99 was a scumbag, but now there's actually PROOF.

For those of you who missed it, here's the breakdown so far:

MINE'99 isolated David D's then girlfriend, hypnotized her, unbuttoned her pants, and fingered her while David DeAngelo, his then student and "friend," was in the next room.

In a way, buy cheap elidel cream online, I am shocked. Not only at the sheer depravity that MINE'99 continues to display, but also at the fact that he was actually able to finger some poor girl without having to pay for it. Bravo, MINE'99. There may actually be something to your SS stuff after all! Though not taking into account that you did not do the work to actually go out and find a girl for yourself, and the fact that since David D probably used SS to get that girl in the first place (therefor she was probably a natural "trance zombie"), I wouldn't consider it all too amazing of a feat.

But none the less, you should add that to your precious testimonials page. "Learn how to finger your friend's girlfriend in the next room!" You'll sell a million copies of whatever crap you're now peddling, I'm sure.

The next bit of information I find amazingly (though not surprisingly) interesting is Bishop revealing that MINE'99 essentially wanted to recruit him for what he planned to create, which is essentially a cult.

I find this interesting because when I was heavily involved in SS myself, Price of elidel cream, it certainly did feel a lot like a cult. Examples:

SS is a closed system and people who use it are discouraged to learn other methods, and often ridiculed for doing so.

There is a clear "us vs. them" attitude meant to strengthen the solidarity of the group.

People are referred to as "Brother (name)" quite often, suggesting a secret society atmosphere.

Elements of religion are present (psychic influence, anyone?), meant to create a unique belief system in it's members.

Heavy emphasis is placed on new "technologies" to control other people's minds and remove any resistence they may have.

Any dissent is immediately shut down, either by ridicule, threats, or banishment from the group.

MINE'99 is looked upon as an infallible leader, and any who question him are dealt with in a harsh manner -- ie: yelled at, ridiculed, discredited, called names, etc, elidel cream online without prescription. (just look at MINE'99's posts towards me on this site for examples of how this works).

I can go on, but you get the idea. MINE'99 aims to create a CULT with his students, and he wanted to include Bishop in it as a "general."

Bishop also claims that MINE'99 is still hung up on his former girlfriend and supplicates to her relentlessly. Not exactly "guru" behavior, is it? Oh, but I forgot. It's "Do what I say, not what I do" in the SS camp. After all, it's only about who's a "better teacher," right?

After something like this, cheap elidel cream no rx, you'd expect MINE'99 to roar back with his typical "LIES. LIBEL! I'LL SUE YOU ALL" rebuttal. But his response is like a little girl limp-wristedly trying to swat away an attacker while crying:

MINE'99 writes:

Has anyone else noticed how Mike Emery is so desperate to drum upsales for his books, the only way he can think to get attention for hisstuff is by consistently attacking me, the person who he credits in thebeginning of Bishop's Journal as being such an inspiration.

Mike, it's obvious that you are either desperate to generate salesor just too lazy to think of any other method. You don't deserve to betied to my name.

Bishop fights back, pressing his advantage:

Bishop writes:

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Still avoiding the subject of doing a one-on-one "sarge-off" against me as usual.
That's cool, I'd be scared of me too.

As for me being "desperate" to generate sales, that's cute.
And to say this is the motive behind my "attacks" on you, is laughable. Elidel cream online without prescription, You brought these "attacks" on yourself by attacking others, genius.
You made quite an effort to smear my name, yet which one of us was notonly invited to attend, but also to speak at THE BIGGEST SEDUCTIONEVENT OF THE YEAR.

Which one of us is willing to pit his abilities against the other in a public challenge?

Which one of us lost everything, yet has managed to not only survive, but is also more powerful than when he left?

You pissed off a lot of people, elidel cream cheap drug, Paul, and these "attacks" are justan example of the outcome of your actions. You called me your "beststudent" then when I pulled my products, I was suddenly a fake. I havenews for you; Talk to anyone who has a copy of my seduction book. Theycan verify the quality of women I'm with in the pics. Funny how youdon't seem to have any such pics of yourself with hot women, outsidepaid publicity pics, elidel cream online without prescription. (PLUG: Very soon, I'll be adding many pics to mywebsite to show what's possible to get with my materiels. Cheap elidel cream tablets, Not justwomen *I* get, but the women my students get as well. Where's YOURpics, Paul???)

Paul, you attack the intelligence of your own students, you attackwomen's decisions to not go for you, you attack people on this board,and you attack other Masters. Yet you still seemed surprised that thoseof us who once learned from you, are now disgusted by you, canadian elidel cream. Elidel cream online without prescription, None more sothan me; the one you tried so hard to completely vanquish. Yet here Iam. Not only have I once again proven myself to the community that I amlegit, but I stand here, looking you right in the eyes and saying, "Sitdown, and be quiet!" There is SO much I have held back, that I couldeasily ruin you with. Yet I don't wish to see you ruined. Find elidel cream without prescription, But I alsodon't care to protect you any longer. So you really do have a choice,and you need to give it a lot of thought, elidel cream online without prescription. You can either admit to thecommunity that you lied, and that "Bishop's Journal" was NOT a work offiction, or you can try to protect yourself from what I do about yourdefiance. Unlike you, I have no desire to use my power to vanquish you.
I simply want the record to be set straight. A true Jedi, if you stillare one, would not try to discredit the other Jedi Masters, elidel cream online review.

Elidel cream online without prescription, But, like I said, it's your choice. I won't make any threats, I don'tneed to. You know what I know about you, so your own knowledge of thatis threat enough.

As for the video testimonials, those are already in the works. As Idon't do seminars, the logistics are different than what you haveavailable. I'm scheduling a couple of female testimonials too, elidel cream online without prescription. Elidel cream vendors, Do youhave any female testimonials???

I heard a rumor that some of the testimonials you use are actuallyemployees of Straightforward, or their family members. Any truth tothat?

Then, Bishop finishes MINE'99 off with this little killing blow:

Bishop writes:

In response to "Ross" who spewed:

"BTW, and for the record, I have NEVER said that Bishop's Journalwas/is a fraud and I defy Emery or anyone else to cite any quote ofmine where I said any such thing."

Okay, you're on.

"I have always said I have NO idea to what extent Emery actuallyexperienced the adventures he wrote about, but that they don't seem allthat implausible as he is applying standard SS stuff that has workedfor thousands of students in the past."

Gee, what a difference. Nice not-so-subtle way to make it SEEM like an acknowledgement while promoting yourself, elidel cream cheap price.

"Yates, my business partner, has made the statement that Bishop's Journal was a work of fiction."

I guess you fail to realize where Yates ends and you begin. Elidel cream online without prescription, As yourbusiness partner, he is representing you, so you are responsible forwhat comes out of his mouth to your students. That is, if you're reallythe one in charge. If you're NOT, then my statement of you beingnothing more than Yates' voicebox is accurate.

So which is it?

"Mr. Emery was booted from my camp for cheating my students; he tookmoney for book orders that he never delivered upon and then he liedabout it. Elidel cream without a prescription, I also subsequently learned that he had a previous history ofcheating people on the internet(the Beanie Baby scandal) which he hidfrom me, and then lied about when I confronted him."

I don't recall challenging why you "booted" me. At the most, I justmentioned how interesting it is that I was booted months AFTER theso-called "scam", elidel cream online without prescription. Like, a few weeks after I pulled my products fromyour catalog. I challenge you to PROVE it didn't happen that way. I cancertainly prove that it DID.

"The veracity of Bishop's Journal and Mr. Emery's seduction skills were NEVER any part of why he was booted."

Elidel cream online without prescription, Why the misdirection, Paul. You're going on and on about why I wasbooted. Show me where in the last dozen posts where the subject of whyI was booted was even mentioned, much less challenged, cheap elidel cream from usa. Oh, maybe that'swhat popped into your head when Ninja mentioned the smear campaign.
Hmm, sounds like your own thoughts just betrayed you.

"You cheat my students and don't fill orders and you are gone, regardless and irrespective of your skills at seduction."

You've cheated your students in ways OTHER than that though, elidel cream online without prescription. Shall we continue this?

"And there you have it. Now, Mr. Emery keeps making references to me, Low cost elidel cream, challenging me in a thread that has nothing to do with him andEVERYTHING to do with Mr. DeAngelo, because he sees it as a cheap wayto generate publicity for his products, which, without his connectionto me, would generate little interest or sales at all."

Actually, your skills of observation are way off.

Elidel cream online without prescription, You fail to realize that I don't NEED to generate publicity here any longer. Most of the people here already bought from me.

My actual reasons for this dialogue today, is because I was disgustedby the quote where you felt it was only "in some ways" fucked up whatyou did that resulted to the falling out of you and Eben.

And you need to calm your ego, regarding thinking YOU deserve creditfor my sales, order cheap elidel cream. You tried to discredit me, and now you want the creditfor my sales???. I guess this is yet another example of you thinkingyou created all good things in the seduction community. Wrap your headaround the fact that the people who have ever even heard of Bishop makeup an incredibly small percentage of the buyers of seduction products.
I suppose you also want to take responsibility for David D's sales, andMystery's as well??, elidel cream online without prescription. Get over yourself, and go enjoy Jimbo, or Jumbo,or whatever her name is. Find elidel cream on internet,

"Mr. Emery, your pants are down and your Dunlop's disease is showingas well as your transparent motives. Perhaps a good therapist wouldremind you that you can't fool everyone all of the time and you oughtnot to get so tense about the fact."

MY transparent motives??. Elidel cream online without prescription, What's "transparent" is why you'reattacking Davod D. various business connections. You're scared, Paul.
You're scared, and you're pissed that he beat you to it. In your mindyou NEED to be the one who has the better ideas, get elidel cream, the smarter decisions.
And when someone shows you that you have not done that, you have toattack their credibility and ethics, elidel cream online without prescription. I just find it ironic that theperson who's credibility and "ethics" you're attacking happens to beDavid D.

You've become a JOKE, Paul. And the sad thing is, you're writing the punchline yourself, wothout apparently even knowing it.

RJ

"P.S. I'm glad to hear about your imaginary friend you'd like tosend to talk to me, Find elidel cream online, but honestly, it's time to put all that stuff awayalong with your Muppet Baby Underoos and grow up."

Perhaps you need your glasses again. Elidel cream online without prescription, I never said I was going to have someone talk to YOU.

"And I have real friends who are more than able to handle security,including my friend and student Mr. B, the Federal Cop. You rememberhim, don't you?"

Security has no ability to do a damn thing about two people having aconversation. Go ahead and send your "security" to try. But I bet my"imaginary" friend accomplishes exactly what I send them to do, elidel cream online without prescription.
As for "Mr, buy elidel cream on line. B, the Federal Cop" you assume that's not who I was referring to sending. LOL

"I'm sure he'll be happy to discuss your internet threats with you."

*Yawn* Riddle me this; what laws have I violated. None. Elidel cream online without prescription, But youalready know that. You're just making weak attempts to soundintimidating. Don't insult these reader's intelligence. But, thenagain, Discount elidel cream online, that's been one of your biggest problems: assuming the ignoranceof those in the seduction community.

"I even kept him on AFTER he committed his crime and I had bailed him out of jail."

Goody Goody. What's your point????

Okay, I grow tired of you once again. I think I'll go take a shit, in honor of you.

Wow, wow, wow.

I'd feel like this was some type of epic Greek tragedy if MINE'99 wasn't such a nudge. He's less like a "Jedi" and more like a "Gollum," a figure that's meant to be pitied as his own hatred and love of all that is evil rot him from the inside and end up ultimately destroying him.

I have known for a loooooong time what kind of person MINE'99 is, and few people believed me when I first started warning others on this site to be careful of him and his teachings. Many of his SS Cult members still troll this board trying to make fun of me and discredit me by calling me a "virgin" or "fat" or a "fraud," (none of which is true, by the way... well, maybe the fat part =) because I dare to call out their beloved "guru" on his actions.

In some ways, I feel vindicated by Bishop and his posts, as he has something I've never had -- proof of how rotten this man is. Bishop, I salute you for standing up to this charlatan. I hope to get to meet you at Cliff's Seminar in Montreal.

As for MINE'99's declaration that I should "call out" David DeAngelo on his "Lies," maybe I'll ask him personally and in private at his next seminar (of which I'm an invited guest) and save Cliff the headaches have having to deal with your SS clonetroopers... er, I mean "students" that may attend his seminar.

Some day, the ENTIRE truth will come out about you, MINE'99. And I hope to be there when it does to see you reap all the bad seeds you've sown.

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Read on, you're not gonna want to miss this one...

Bishop writes:

"Now, why, oh WHY if Thundercat even had a modicum of integrity,objectivity or fairness, wouldn't he be asking DeAngelo..er, I meanChristian Carter..ooops, I mean Stephi..no, pharmacy maxaman, no, no, I mean EbenPagan..about all of this."

You tell them Ross Jeffries...er, I mean Paul Ross. Don't throw stones when you're hiding behind a fake name yourself.

"Guys, I have been saying for years: DeAngelo is a hack, in it SOLELYfor the money, Drug maxaman online purchase, and he doesn't really give one diddly fuck about whetherhe helps you or not."

Hmm, so how is that less ethical than you taking credit for other people's creations.

"Is the message getting through YET?

Thundercat, WHY THE SILENCE on this?

This ought to be the COMMUNITY SCANDAL OF THE DECADE, but Thundy isSO afraid of losing his business affiliation with Deangelo, ourintrepid blogger dare not open his donut-crumb encrusted mouth.

SHAME."

Don't get a boner, Paul, but I actually agree with you here, buy maxaman without prescription. Thundywould be all over your ass on this. As for if he lacks the testicularabundance to give it the same attention and mention since it's DavidD., I can not comment, as only now can it be proven that he will beaware of this information. The oppourtunity to prove you wrong (whichhe has demonstrated many times having a passion for) is here for him.

"Now, someone PLEEEEEEEEEEESE ask DeAngelo about this, during his talk, at Cliff's seminar.

Someone PLEASE video tape the exchange and put it up on the web for all to see."

Just curious why you would want this done, discount maxaman, Paul. How does this situation benefit you?

In response to "Canoe Connor" who wrote:

~~THEN YOU WROTE THIS:
"Eben and I had a falling out over a woman. Buy maxaman without prescription, I'm not necessarily proudof what I did, and in some ways think it was pretty fucked up andwrong."~~

Is this a direct quote??. I don't feel like looking for it myself.
But if it IS a direct quote, I am sickened that he feels what he didwas only "in some ways" pretty fucked up and wrong. Well, if this IS adirect quote, and Mr. Maxaman approved, Grand PooBah of Upper Scum Sack truly feels itwas fucked up and wrong only in "some ways" then he should have NOproblem giving the details and letting YOU GUYS decide for yourselfjust how fucked up and wrong it was.
After all, he doesn't hesitate to share details of other people'sstumbles (and in SOME cases he fabricates or speculates the details).

So how about it, Ross...er, I mean Paul, buy maxaman without prescription. Care to beat me to the punch by sharing the details yourself?

Oh, and Paul. That whole "Obi-Ross" thing, is the wrong side of theforce, bud. You're more like Palpatine, actually. He too presentedhimself one way to the masses, while in private he had a darker andhidden agenda, maxaman from india. Buy maxaman without prescription, I don't think he had a cat though, so that wasdifferent.

Hmm, so in this little universe of ours, would Thundy be Jabba, or justsome pudgy stormtrooper in the background, telling the rest of thegroup "I'll catch up with you later."

Lando played all the angles in "Empire" so that would be...naw, I won't say his name.

Who would be Chewie. HYPNOTICA. Yeah, Order maxaman no prescription required, he's pretty hairy.
So would that mean that Piccus is Han Solo???

Okay, I'm done. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go play with my"Amidala." (No, that doesn't mean my right hand...it's my left handturned palm down)

Before we go on, to answer a few questions, my silence on this "scandal" was for a couple reasons:

*Ahem*

Anyway, back to the drama...

A poster named Canoe Connor replied to Bishop about MINE'99's quote:

Canoe Connor writes:
Yes, the above was a DIRECT quote. It was taken from a post Ross wrote to alt.seduction.fast on Nov 10, 2002.

In that post, Ross also goes on to say that

"Truth: Eben saw a way to make some bucks and personally strike back at me by
creating DYD."

and

DYD "is basically ONE trick and it doesn't work even for Eben if thepersonal reports I've had are true, and I see no reason to disbelievethem."

The post is still available via dejanews as of today..

So then MINE'99 rears his ugly head and spews this bit of venom:

MINE'99 writes:

Emery,

Don't have time to duel with you, but I'll make one small comment:

At the time it all went down, when I told you what happened, I willnever forget your response, You said, and I quote, "I don't blame youat all, buy maxaman without prescription. I would have done the same thing."

So much for your moralistic posturing. Goodness, I recall youpromising that one day you would buy me a house because I had made "allyour fantasies come true".

How the worm turns.

Good luck all.

Then, Bishop comes back with this little NUCLEAR BOMB...

Bishop writes:

"Emery,

Don't have time to duel with you, but I'll make one small comment:

At the time it all went down, when I told you what happened, buy maxaman from india, I willnever forget your response, You said, and I quote, "I don't blame youat all. I would have done the same thing." "

Incorrect quote. Initially you made it sound like she came over alone,and implied that she was using wanting to be hypnotized as just anexcuse to come over. Buy maxaman without prescription, Which of course made it sound like she wascheating on Eben. So of course I didn't blame you under THAT impliedcondition. Buy maxaman no prescription required, Do I advocate finger fucking your friend's girlfriend. No.
But if she's making the effort to get intimate with me, and I thinkshe's hot, I might have let it happen. Which is what I had actuallysaid, buy maxaman without prescription. While it's not the best way to honor your friendship with Eben, Iwas speaking hypothetically, and trying to put you more at ease, as atrue friend would do.
But you KNOW that once you told me the WHOLE story, cheap maxaman pill, the FIRST WORDS outof my mouth were, "Dude, that's not right. Why'd you do that?"

So if you want to continue to make it sound like I would have donewhat you ACTUALLY did, then you will leave me no choice but to crackopen my journal and share the details I wrote after we hung up thatnight. Yes, I made a journal entry. Buy maxaman without prescription, At the time I did it as a reminderof how not to let my abilities go too far. I didn't use any real names, Order no rx maxaman, just in case it got read by someone. But it was all written within thehour after you called me, so many exact details are there. Think I'mbluffing. Here's an excerpt, exactly as it is written:

"..."P" then said, "I started to unbutton her pants, and she wasn'tstopping me. She was just letting me do it." I asked, "No shit?" "P"replied, "No, I'm dead serious, buy maxaman without prescription. So I'm thinking I'll go for it. So Istart sucking on one of her nipples, buy maxaman internet, and I'm reaching into her pantsand I start to finger her. And she's wet, Bish, she's totally gettinginto this." I asked, "Holy shit. And you're doing all this and (theboyfriend)is just in the next room?" He laughed and said, "He wassitting in my living room, yeah. Buy maxaman without prescription, So I'm sucking on my finger, and shetastes good, Bish. Find cheap maxaman, And I make her suck my finger, taste herself. Shewas gone, I could have done whatever I wanted..."

Funny how the many things I initially wrote down from my experienceswith you, were for learnings and life lesson purposes. Yet whencombined now, reveal so many things about you that I had been blind toback then.

You've managed to spend quite an abundant amount of time detailingshit about ME, so give that same time and detail to sharing what REALLYhappened, as YOU remember it, buy maxaman once daily.
or, maybe since I never used actual names

"So much for your moralistic posturing."

I'M not the one who finger fucked a friend's girlfriend, that wasYOU, buy maxaman without prescription. If we're going to talk morality, then how moral was it when youspoke with me and Zack about being your "Generals" in your plan tocreate your own "organization" of followers. Have you shared thislittle plan with any of your students. Ever shared it with thecommunity. I have that little episode in my journal too, so if you'veforgotten the exact words, I can refresh your memory.

"Goodness, I recall you promising that one day you would buy me a house because I had made "all your fantasies come true".

How the worm turns."

You LITERALLY thought I was going to buy you a house???. Buy maxaman without prescription, I wouldhave thought you would have taken that no more literally than me takingit literally when you said one day that you might ask me to fire abullet for you. Cheap maxaman in usa, Oh, wait, were you actually SERIOUS about that afterall???

"Good luck all.

Mr. Carter, I mean, DeAngelo, still has to explain why he wrote anebook telling women how to defeat the vary advice he sold to men withhis FIRST e-book."

First of all, since the book is not yet available, you are (asalways) speculating. You have no clue what the details are in the book, maxaman for order.
Plus, who says that DAVID wrote it??. You sold MY book, but I was theone who wrote it, buy maxaman without prescription.

"That issue stands and is completely separate from whatever wentdown with Pagan, er, DeAngelo, er, whatever his name's former G-F andno amount of distraction and monkey dust is going to make it go away."

It would be in your best interest for it to not go away. It draws theattention away from your own shitty ethics. Maxaman no rx, You still have no addressedwhy you even CARE about all this. I mean, unless it;s pissing you offthat david beat you to the punch, I fail to see what any of it has todo with you and your business. Buy maxaman without prescription, Has David made statements that are acontrdiction to this latest discovery. Or is it simply a case of ascared 46 year old man who is feeling his once strong grip on thecommunity, slipping more and more. You used to always go on and on atyour seminars about "I don't know if I'll want to do this next year"(Usually right before, or just after, plugging the expensive "SpeedLife" seminar)So why not just take a consultation position, and retirefrom the other things, order maxaman overnight delivery. We all must credit you for starting us on theseduction path, but I would imagine that you would WANT to retire,especially after being told you can't attend the Montreal seminar inJuly. Isn't it humiliating as piss to be told that if you were comingto the Montreal seminar that some of us Masters were going to declinecoming. What the hell is it going to take for you to realize that youpissed off every great contact you ever had, and now it's coming backto bite you on the ass, buy maxaman without prescription.
What is it going to take for you to take a serious look at yourreality, and realize that despite all your past success, you punishyourself for your own success by betraying (or feeling betrayed by)those you let into your inner circle. Well, Buy maxaman without prescription, except Kimmy, but that'sonly because she dumped you and sent your ego into supplication modethrough the anchors she's set on you.

"Why won't Thundy address it?

Is ANYONE going to ask DeAngelo about it, during his talk at Cliff's seminar?"

Why don't YOU ask him at the seminar. Oh, that's right, you can't,because you're banned from even ATTENDING. Buy maxaman without prescription, Gee, how unfair, given yourhigh level of loyalty and ethical standards.

"Now, I'm off to learn the intricate details of teleseminars, which will be a big part of my business coming up soon."

I think you should cast the Verison Wireless guy for your role inthe teleseminar. Hey, are you going to include the scenes where youtell guys not to supplicate to women, buy maxaman no rx, while you continue supplicatingto some short, toad-faced, femi-nazi. That would be grippingtelevision, Paul.

Now if you're excuse me, I have to get back to my friends (You remember having those, once upon a time. Buy maxaman generic, Right, Paul?).

Wow, where to begin...

Bishop actually WROTE DOWN his actual conversation with MINE'99 after the "incident" occured! That's simply amazing. I always knew MINE'99 was a scumbag, but now there's actually PROOF.

For those of you who missed it, here's the breakdown so far:

MINE'99 isolated David D's then girlfriend, hypnotized her, unbuttoned her pants, and fingered her while David DeAngelo, his then student and "friend," was in the next room.

In a way, cheap maxaman no prescription, I am shocked. Not only at the sheer depravity that MINE'99 continues to display, but also at the fact that he was actually able to finger some poor girl without having to pay for it. Bravo, MINE'99. There may actually be something to your SS stuff after all! Though not taking into account that you did not do the work to actually go out and find a girl for yourself, and the fact that since David D probably used SS to get that girl in the first place (therefor she was probably a natural "trance zombie"), I wouldn't consider it all too amazing of a feat.

I find this interesting because when I was heavily involved in SS myself, Cheap maxaman online, it certainly did feel a lot like a cult. Examples:

SS is a closed system and people who use it are discouraged to learn other methods, and often ridiculed for doing so.

There is a clear "us vs. them" attitude meant to strengthen the solidarity of the group.

People are referred to as "Brother (name)" quite often, suggesting a secret society atmosphere.

Elements of religion are present (psychic influence, anyone?), meant to create a unique belief system in it's members.

Heavy emphasis is placed on new "technologies" to control other people's minds and remove any resistence they may have.

Any dissent is immediately shut down, either by ridicule, threats, or banishment from the group.

MINE'99 is looked upon as an infallible leader, and any who question him are dealt with in a harsh manner -- ie: yelled at, ridiculed, discredited, called names, etc, buy maxaman without prescription. (just look at MINE'99's posts towards me on this site for examples of how this works).

I can go on, but you get the idea. MINE'99 aims to create a CULT with his students, and he wanted to include Bishop in it as a "general."

After something like this, maxaman sales, you'd expect MINE'99 to roar back with his typical "LIES. LIBEL! I'LL SUE YOU ALL" rebuttal. But his response is like a little girl limp-wristedly trying to swat away an attacker while crying:

MINE'99 writes:

Has anyone else noticed how Mike Emery is so desperate to drum upsales for his books, the only way he can think to get attention for hisstuff is by consistently attacking me, the person who he credits in thebeginning of Bishop's Journal as being such an inspiration.

Mike, it's obvious that you are either desperate to generate salesor just too lazy to think of any other method. You don't deserve to betied to my name.

Bishop fights back, pressing his advantage:

Bishop writes:

LOL
Paul, Paul, Maxaman overnight, Paul.
Still avoiding the subject of doing a one-on-one "sarge-off" against me as usual.
That's cool, I'd be scared of me too.

As for me being "desperate" to generate sales, that's cute.
And to say this is the motive behind my "attacks" on you, is laughable. Buy maxaman without prescription, You brought these "attacks" on yourself by attacking others, genius.
You made quite an effort to smear my name, yet which one of us was notonly invited to attend, but also to speak at THE BIGGEST SEDUCTIONEVENT OF THE YEAR.

Which one of us is willing to pit his abilities against the other in a public challenge?

Which one of us lost everything, yet has managed to not only survive, but is also more powerful than when he left?

You pissed off a lot of people, maxaman online pharmacy, Paul, and these "attacks" are justan example of the outcome of your actions. You called me your "beststudent" then when I pulled my products, I was suddenly a fake. I havenews for you; Talk to anyone who has a copy of my seduction book. Theycan verify the quality of women I'm with in the pics. Funny how youdon't seem to have any such pics of yourself with hot women, outsidepaid publicity pics, buy maxaman without prescription. (PLUG: Very soon, I'll be adding many pics to mywebsite to show what's possible to get with my materiels. Online pharmacy maxaman, Not justwomen *I* get, but the women my students get as well. Where's YOURpics, Paul???)

Paul, you attack the intelligence of your own students, you attackwomen's decisions to not go for you, you attack people on this board,and you attack other Masters. Yet you still seemed surprised that thoseof us who once learned from you, are now disgusted by you, approved maxaman pharmacy. Buy maxaman without prescription, None more sothan me; the one you tried so hard to completely vanquish. Yet here Iam. Not only have I once again proven myself to the community that I amlegit, but I stand here, looking you right in the eyes and saying, "Sitdown, and be quiet!" There is SO much I have held back, that I couldeasily ruin you with. Yet I don't wish to see you ruined. Low price maxaman, But I alsodon't care to protect you any longer. So you really do have a choice,and you need to give it a lot of thought, buy maxaman without prescription. You can either admit to thecommunity that you lied, and that "Bishop's Journal" was NOT a work offiction, or you can try to protect yourself from what I do about yourdefiance. Unlike you, I have no desire to use my power to vanquish you.
I simply want the record to be set straight. A true Jedi, if you stillare one, would not try to discredit the other Jedi Masters, buy cheapest maxaman online.

Buy maxaman without prescription, But, like I said, it's your choice. I won't make any threats, I don'tneed to. You know what I know about you, so your own knowledge of thatis threat enough.

As for the video testimonials, those are already in the works. As Idon't do seminars, the logistics are different than what you haveavailable. I'm scheduling a couple of female testimonials too, buy maxaman without prescription. Maxaman prices, Do youhave any female testimonials???

I heard a rumor that some of the testimonials you use are actuallyemployees of Straightforward, or their family members. Any truth tothat?

Then, Bishop finishes MINE'99 off with this little killing blow:

Bishop writes:

In response to "Ross" who spewed:

"BTW, and for the record, I have NEVER said that Bishop's Journalwas/is a fraud and I defy Emery or anyone else to cite any quote ofmine where I said any such thing."

Okay, you're on.

"I have always said I have NO idea to what extent Emery actuallyexperienced the adventures he wrote about, but that they don't seem allthat implausible as he is applying standard SS stuff that has workedfor thousands of students in the past."

Gee, what a difference. Nice not-so-subtle way to make it SEEM like an acknowledgement while promoting yourself, maxaman in us.

"Yates, my business partner, has made the statement that Bishop's Journal was a work of fiction."

I guess you fail to realize where Yates ends and you begin. Buy maxaman without prescription, As yourbusiness partner, he is representing you, so you are responsible forwhat comes out of his mouth to your students. That is, if you're reallythe one in charge. If you're NOT, then my statement of you beingnothing more than Yates' voicebox is accurate.

So which is it?

"Mr. Emery was booted from my camp for cheating my students; he tookmoney for book orders that he never delivered upon and then he liedabout it. Order maxaman from us, I also subsequently learned that he had a previous history ofcheating people on the internet(the Beanie Baby scandal) which he hidfrom me, and then lied about when I confronted him."

I don't recall challenging why you "booted" me. At the most, I justmentioned how interesting it is that I was booted months AFTER theso-called "scam", buy maxaman without prescription. Like, a few weeks after I pulled my products fromyour catalog. I challenge you to PROVE it didn't happen that way. I cancertainly prove that it DID.

"The veracity of Bishop's Journal and Mr. Emery's seduction skills were NEVER any part of why he was booted."

Buy maxaman without prescription, Why the misdirection, Paul. You're going on and on about why I wasbooted. Show me where in the last dozen posts where the subject of whyI was booted was even mentioned, much less challenged, maxaman buy. Oh, maybe that'swhat popped into your head when Ninja mentioned the smear campaign.
Hmm, sounds like your own thoughts just betrayed you.

"You cheat my students and don't fill orders and you are gone, regardless and irrespective of your skills at seduction."

You've cheated your students in ways OTHER than that though, buy maxaman without prescription. Shall we continue this?

"And there you have it. Now, Mr. Emery keeps making references to me, Cheap maxaman pharmacy, challenging me in a thread that has nothing to do with him andEVERYTHING to do with Mr. DeAngelo, because he sees it as a cheap wayto generate publicity for his products, which, without his connectionto me, would generate little interest or sales at all."

Actually, your skills of observation are way off.

Buy maxaman without prescription, You fail to realize that I don't NEED to generate publicity here any longer. Most of the people here already bought from me.

My actual reasons for this dialogue today, is because I was disgustedby the quote where you felt it was only "in some ways" fucked up whatyou did that resulted to the falling out of you and Eben.

And you need to calm your ego, regarding thinking YOU deserve creditfor my sales, cheapest generic maxaman online. You tried to discredit me, and now you want the creditfor my sales???. I guess this is yet another example of you thinkingyou created all good things in the seduction community. Wrap your headaround the fact that the people who have ever even heard of Bishop makeup an incredibly small percentage of the buyers of seduction products.
I suppose you also want to take responsibility for David D's sales, andMystery's as well??, buy maxaman without prescription. Get over yourself, and go enjoy Jimbo, or Jumbo,or whatever her name is. Maxaman overnight shipping,

"Mr. Emery, your pants are down and your Dunlop's disease is showingas well as your transparent motives. Perhaps a good therapist wouldremind you that you can't fool everyone all of the time and you oughtnot to get so tense about the fact."

MY transparent motives??. Buy maxaman without prescription, What's "transparent" is why you'reattacking Davod D. various business connections. You're scared, Paul.
You're scared, and you're pissed that he beat you to it. In your mindyou NEED to be the one who has the better ideas, maxaman uk, the smarter decisions.
And when someone shows you that you have not done that, you have toattack their credibility and ethics, buy maxaman without prescription. I just find it ironic that theperson who's credibility and "ethics" you're attacking happens to beDavid D.

You've become a JOKE, Paul. And the sad thing is, you're writing the punchline yourself, wothout apparently even knowing it.

RJ

"P.S. I'm glad to hear about your imaginary friend you'd like tosend to talk to me, Drug maxaman, but honestly, it's time to put all that stuff awayalong with your Muppet Baby Underoos and grow up."

Perhaps you need your glasses again. Buy maxaman without prescription, I never said I was going to have someone talk to YOU.

"And I have real friends who are more than able to handle security,including my friend and student Mr. B, the Federal Cop. You rememberhim, don't you?"

Security has no ability to do a damn thing about two people having aconversation. Go ahead and send your "security" to try. But I bet my"imaginary" friend accomplishes exactly what I send them to do, buy maxaman without prescription.
As for "Mr, purchase maxaman overnight delivery. B, the Federal Cop" you assume that's not who I was referring to sending. LOL

"I'm sure he'll be happy to discuss your internet threats with you."

*Yawn* Riddle me this; what laws have I violated. None. Buy maxaman without prescription, But youalready know that. You're just making weak attempts to soundintimidating. Don't insult these reader's intelligence. But, thenagain, Cheap maxaman from uk, that's been one of your biggest problems: assuming the ignoranceof those in the seduction community.

"I even kept him on AFTER he committed his crime and I had bailed him out of jail."

Goody Goody. What's your point????

Okay, I grow tired of you once again. I think I'll go take a shit, in honor of you.

Wow, wow, wow.

Some day, the ENTIRE truth will come out about you, MINE'99. And I hope to be there when it does to see you reap all the bad seeds you've sown.

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