MINE’99 Is Off His Nut

June 3, 2005 by Thundercat
Filed under Drama & Rumors

Here’s the latest from MINE’99 in his fued with… well, pretty much the whole community. If you thought he wasn’t quite playing with a full deck before, wait until you read this one…

MINE’99 writes:
I built the seduction community. I can take it down now any time I choose.

Mark my words. I’m going to set this whole fucker free.

Those who profit from my genius..beware.

"Now I truly control the worm AND the spice..and I have the power to DESTROY THE SPICE FOREVER"…..Mu’adib

Now, either MINE’99 plans to destroy every woman on the planet in some Dr. Evil-type scheme to wipe out seduction forever, or he’s just gone crazy. I’m talking completely, uttery, off-his-rocker crazy.

Personally, I think he’s been spending too much time alone with his cats.

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83 Responses to “MINE’99 Is Off His Nut”

Ross Jeffries says:

June 15, 2005 at 8:29 am

This whole blog is my BITCH!

I say jump and you wussies say, “YESSIR, MASSUH ROSS. HOW HI, SUH?”

Ha ha ha ha.

PUNKED!
Ninja says:

June 15, 2005 at 8:29 am

“According to the verses, you are saying that everyone is blind and that you are coming out with something new. But…one of the verses says you aren’t going to charge for it…and thats what throws me..hehe.”

Dude! OMG! Are you going to give away all your products for free to the public? Still, like Thunday said, obtaining your products for free, well, they would still be overpriced…..
CultMember says:

June 15, 2005 at 8:36 am

RJ

First, are you Jewish? I don’t have a problem with them, they are gods chosen people.

So you aren’t coming out with something new?
Damn…I was worked up over that.

And I have every product you have put up for sale. So I’m not one of the idiots.

Disappointed Cult Member
Ninja says:

June 15, 2005 at 8:37 am

Ha, I guess this is what happens when neither Speed Seduction nor even $1000 a night can get him laid. He comes has to come here for his kicks. You couldn’t pay a real woman or even a whore, for that matter, a nickle to tickle his pickle.
CultMember says:

June 15, 2005 at 9:16 am

Ninja

I’ve often wondered about RJ and women. While I know SS works from personal experence, you never see RJ with women. Being that SS does work you have to consider other reasons. I’ve thought about if its legal issues, or if he just doesn’t care much for women either from no challenge or if he simply doesn’t like them.
Rex Sikes once made an accusation that I wonder if its true. Something I dare not mention here.
I guess we’ll never know and personal I really don’t care. As long as I get laid I’m happy.

Loyal Cult Member
Ninja says:

June 15, 2005 at 9:35 am

Rex Sikes once made an accusation that I wonder if its true. Something I dare not mention here.

We dare you, show us, and more importantly, show yourself that you have the power of your own mind. If the only reason you are holding on to this information is because it would upset your master, take a guess as to who owns your mind. Hint: Not you.
CultMember says:

June 15, 2005 at 10:02 am

Ninja

I don’t have a master, other than the one that made us all. I don’t worship and idolize seduction teachers like some of the guys out there. Nor will your goarding cause me to state here what I have heard.
My mind belongs to me, I let in what I choose.
I choose not to reveal this thing out of legal reasons.
Ninja you are one to talk about “masters”, your head is so far in Bishops ass that you can tell what he ate last week..so please spare me.

Loyal Cult Member
If YOU had a mind you would have figured out what it is already. Do I need to quote you a bible verse as well?
Ninja says:

June 15, 2005 at 10:15 am

Haha, you call yourself a CultMember, but you have no master, isn’t that an oxyMORON?

Thanks for telling us, we would never have figured that out
CultMember says:

June 15, 2005 at 10:29 am

Ninja
Haha, you call yourself a CultMember, but you have no master, isn’t that an oxyMORON?

NO its a JOKE…DAMN…:)

Loyal Cult Member
Odin Danneskjold says:

June 15, 2005 at 11:37 am

“So let me get this straight: Ross probably has more money than you, seems to have more women than you, you are seeking to learn how to get laid, his materials might be very useful to you, but because you don’t like *him* you will “punish” *him* by keeping YOURSELF in the dark about what he knows? You can substitute any guru for “Ross” there, as I was just showing the flaw in your logic.”

No dude, you don’t get it at all. You see, I don’t “like” any of the “gurus”. I could not care less if RJ or DD was grannymugging thugs, if I thought their METHOD could be of benefit I would still spend time learning it. The reason why I will not use Ross’s method is that I know it is a product of his mind, and he has now proven to all of the internet that his is a socially retarded one by making a complete ass of himself. This makes me question the quality of that which this mind creates. You have yet to prove any flaw in this logic.

I have no personal beef with Ross Jeffries; for all I know, he might be completely in his right about being pissed off at DD, bishop and whoever else he is pissed off at. I don’t care either way.
Cock Blocker says:

June 15, 2005 at 11:39 am

By the way Ross, good thing you use 93 as your tagline. For those who don’t know what that means, iit’s an Aliester Crowley symbol for love over will. You sure demonstrate A LOT of love in your postings and your approach to seduction. And you sure do encourage and support others in expressing their Will. Good job Ross.

Here is a link to some Aliester Crowley info:
http://oto-usa.org/faq.html
Ross Jeffries says:

June 15, 2005 at 12:44 pm

“No dude, you don’t get it at all. You see, I don’t “like” any of the “gurus”. I could not care less if RJ or DD was grannymugging thugs, if I thought their METHOD could be of benefit I would still spend time learning it. The reason why I will not use Ross’s method is that I know it is a product of his mind”

Let’s see. You confess you know nothing about it and now you proclaim that you won’t even look.

That makes you both uninformed and willfully stupid.

Not someone I would in case want as a customer.

Now…go run along to the Objectivism meeting, Ragnar. Or Mr. Roarke. Or whomoever you fancy yourself today.

For those who want to learn the truth about what SS CAN do for you, just go to:

http://www.seduction.com/resources.asp

RJ
93/93
Ross Jeffrles says:

June 15, 2005 at 1:22 pm

I am a fucking loon.
Handsome Man says:

June 15, 2005 at 4:08 pm

Why the fuck are people posting as RJ? You son of bitches post as yourselves.
Ross Jeffries says:

June 15, 2005 at 5:16 pm

My name is Ross. I am Jewish, but I act like a Nazi. I will sue you and threaten you because I am a big man, but I cry like a little girl.
Ross Jeffrles says:

June 16, 2005 at 10:56 am

Hi, I’m Ross. I suffer from a biopsychiatrical disorder stemming from excess inhalation of candle fumes used in pagan rituals. Please stop making fun of me. It’s not funny and you are hurting my feelings. All hail the dark master.

- RJ

666
BrCb says:

June 16, 2005 at 11:48 am

Hey Ross,

What’s the 93/93 all about?
Stopit says:

June 16, 2005 at 12:04 pm

You guys need to stop posting as other people. It will ruin this board. Could even force Thundy to make you register to post.
Just stop it, its not cool.

Its Wrong

Anyone know if Rick H is still around? The guy that only does bi-girls and did 5 at one time?
Stopit says:

June 16, 2005 at 12:08 pm

9393 is in reference to that dead sick guy Aleister Crowley. The guy that was a satanist and had sex with animals. Something to do with love and will.
Anyone that thinks highly of Crowley is off his rocker.

Its Wrong
Rick H says:

June 16, 2005 at 2:01 pm

“Anyone know if Rick H is still around? The guy that only does bi-girls and did 5 at one time?’

Yes I am around … tonight I feast on a bisexual countess vampiress named Olga…..

Cum to my castle..
Shinji says:

June 16, 2005 at 4:44 pm

“Anyone that thinks highly of Crowley is off his rocker.”

and yet so many live in accordance with his teachings.

“Do What Thou Wilt”
PolishMexican says:

June 16, 2005 at 9:55 pm

http://oto-usa.org/faq.html

WTF? Gotta go get my truck and hall some lumber ..put my boots on ’cause my feet stink..get in sexual state and pull some hotties
Strange says:

June 17, 2005 at 1:56 pm

Is RJ and formhandle being sued?

http://www.cybersheet.com/parker-v-ltsc-060905.pdf

2 billion dollars? is this for real?
Ninja says:

June 17, 2005 at 2:09 pm

“During the time in controversy in this action, The Seduction Mafia has also actively solicited assistance in its mission from a number of other internet users (t’operatives”), whose purpose is to commit predicate acts against Plaintiff while distancing the Seduction Mafia
principals from liability.”

Ray is talking about the Cult that is Speed Seduction. I’m too lazy to read the whole 78 pages, but it does seem interesting that finally someone is willing to take the guru on.
Ninja says:

June 17, 2005 at 2:12 pm

“14. The Seduction Mafia alleged in this Complaint is an association-in-fact enterprise of individuals and businesses who have acted in concert for the purpese of securing revenue for its principals, Defendants LTSC/Formhandle and Ross. It was created through an agreement by Defendants Ross Jeffries and Formhandle, for the purpose of increasing revenue and goodwill for both the Speed Seduction and LTSC websites.”

Damn, this is getting more interesting as I read on and I’m only on page 5 of 78 from this lawsuit.
Ninja says:

June 17, 2005 at 2:18 pm

“18. Defendant Ross is the “mastermind” of the Seduction Mafia, is primarily responsible for its creation, and is one of its principals. Defendant Ross profits from the enterprise through his web site lo cated at http : //www.seduction. com.
19. From 1994-1998, the ASF newsgroup existed on USENET as a solution to a growing
problem in other romance groups (such as alt.romance and soc.singles) which were finding moreand more discussions devoted to Speed Seduction. This is widely believed to have been the result of Defendant Ross encouraging such discussion and testimonials from his customers and potential customers, whom he would favor if they provided him with favorable word-of-mouth,occasionally compensating them with free products or increased standing in the Speed Seduction community.”

Ahhh, so this is how he started the cult, give away free goodies in return for a quid-pro-quo. I’ll scratch your back if you scratch mine.
Ninja says:

June 17, 2005 at 2:37 pm

27. Defendant Ross’s propensity for acting as an internet ringleader has recently come to
light in a spectacular way, thanks mostly to postings made by “Bishop” (a Doe in Parker v.
Wintermute). “Bishop” is a man named Michael Lee Emery, a former student of Speed
Seduction who later became a speaker at Defendant Ross’s , seminars and who sold a product
called “Bishop’s Journal” through the Speed Seduction website. He now operates out of the
domain http://www.new-alpha.com, and has released or is about to release new seduction
material for sale.

28. At the time of his postings, Bishop was acting as if he were merely a loyal follower of
Defendant Ross. Since they have parted ways acrimoniously, however, he has spoken much
more freely of what actually transpired. The following quotes are.taken from the URL at
http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/2005/05/bishop:reveals.html, a “seduction blog” run
by former SS student “Thundercat,” who has also divested from Defendant Ross. The author of
each statement below appears afterwards:

a. “[Defendant Ross] said one day that thul might ask me to.fire a bullet./br [him1.
(Bishop)
b. "[Defendant Ross] isolated David D’s then girlfriend, hypnotized her, unbuttoned
her pants, and fingered her while David DeAngelo, his then student and “friend,” was in the next
room.”2 (Bishop).
c. “I have known for a loooooong time what kind of person [Defendant Ross] is,
and few people believed me when I first started warning others on this site to be careful of him
and his teachings. Many of his SS Cult members still troll this board trying to make fun of me
and discredit me by calling me a “virgin” or “fat” or a “fraud,” (none of which is true, bythe
way… well, maybe the fat part:) because I dare to call out their beloved “guru” on his actions.”
(Thundercat).3
d. “I took him from a nothing who hadn’t been laid in years to someone who, by his
own confession to me, had made his wildest fantasies came true…gave him an opportunity to
establish himself as someone in a community that looked up to him.I offered him a market to
make some money on his product…stood by him, bailed him out of prison, and then forgave a
$3000 debt.” (Defendant Ross).

29. In the same Blog, Bishop has alluded to keeping a journal of his interactions with
Defendant Ross, and has stated that what he has revealed is merely the “tip of the iceberg.” In
‘David D. is David DeAngelo akla Eben Pagan, the auflror of “Double Your Dating,” an LTSC affiliate, and a
former student of Speed Seduction
3 It should be noted that Thundercat was also a Seduction Mafia operative at one point, linking to the RayFAQ
website from his blog. His post here is typical of what happens when people leave the “SS cult” as he calls it.
paragraph23 above we have Bishop stating that Defendant Ross once said to him that he “might
ask him to fire a bullet,” and further revealing that Defendant Ross had compensated him
financially for his “work” (which included threatening Plaintiff), despite his denials at the time
that this was the case. This is also a common tactic of Defendant Ross’s.

Damn, I’m only on page 10 and our beloved Bishop and Thundy are getting dragged into this mess. Whoever Ray is, he’s obviously been keeping up with our posts. He’s been waiting all these years for his revenge. Damn.
Ninja says:

June 17, 2005 at 2:54 pm

35. Aardvark’s conduct is typical of how Defendant Ross operates: he delegates the “dirtywork” to other Seduction Mafia operatives while appearing to take the high road for himself. He does this because Aardvark (and other operatives) are more or less “judgment proof’ and (he believes) willing to take the fall for him. He also does it because by rotating operatives, none become “stale” and it gives the appearance of support within the newsgroup. This is standard operating procedure for what many call the “SS Cult.”

36. Plaintiff avers that Wintermute, Alex Kaufmann, Player88, James King (believed to bePlayer8S), and Aardvark each conspired individually with Defendant Ross to post the above messages to ASF,, or alternatively, were given general instructions by Defendant Ross to engage in conduct of this nature- in furtherance of the Seduction Mafia.

37 . Defendant Ross did not delegate all of the Seduction Mafia dirtywork to the operatives, however. Sometimes he would post statements himself which themselves were actionable. These statements let it be known to his followers that Defendant Ross considered Plaintiff “fair game” for the “Black PR’ campaign outlined above.ll Following is a summary of
the statements relevant to this action:

I think if you trace the IP of “Strange” it’s probably this Ray fellow. Ross says we were all PUNKED by the biblical ramblings, I think it was Ross getting punked by this lawsuit though. This is sure to rock the community if Ray gets judgement, now I see why DD and Mystery stay out of these pissing contests. Eventually you’re going to piss someone off so well that he’s going to make it his life’s mission to come after you. DAMN.
Ninja says:

June 17, 2005 at 3:01 pm

11 “Black PR’ is a well-known Scientology tactic which the “church” uses to silence dissent. Defendant Ross is believed to have ties to Scientology, and in fact a character in the movie “Magnolia” (played by Torn Cnrise) was based on his work. The producers of Magnolia, along with Mr. Cruise, are scientologists.

From the lawsuit……
Ninja says:

June 17, 2005 at 3:33 pm

156. The Seduction Mafia is an ongoing concern, with multiple victims (seduction information providers), and its conduct will continue to harm others in perpetuity unless enjoined by this court. The specific damage to these victims is a) the loss of any advertising revenue paid to Defendant LTSC that otherwise would not have had to be paid, had ASF not been “hijacked” and b) any damage caused by the Seduction Mafia’s “enforcement” of its *ASF turf ”

PRAYER FOR RELIEF
Plaintiff seeks the following relief:
1. For each count, or any combination of all counts, compensatory damages in an
unspecified amount to be proven at trial, but which is not less than TWO BILLION AMERICAN DOLLARS ($2,ooo,ooo,0oo.oo uS),”

2. Treble damages for those damages attributed to the RICO enterprise,
3. Transfer of the ray-gordon.com domain to Plaintiff, so that he may mitigate his
4. The maximum punitive damages allowed by applicable law;
5. Injunctive relief sufficient to terminate the actionable conduct;
6. Costs of suit, including reasonable attorney fees; and
7 . Such other and further relief as this court shall deem just and proper.
DEMAND FOR JURY TRIAL
Plaintiff demands the right to a trial by jury in this case.
This the 9th dav of June. 2005.

Seduction Mafia, Rico, Hobbs, Sarbanes-Oxley Act, Lanham Act, I dont know what made me do it, but I just read that 78 page lawsuit. Well I have learned a lesson reading this thing tonight. I am staying out of these pissing contests, sure, I love drama just like the next person, but is it worth 2 billion dollars to me? Haha, no way, from now on I only post positively, but dont think I won’t come in and challenge the liars on here. I am the Ninja.
Thundercat says:

June 17, 2005 at 5:21 pm

Ninja,

I’d highly recommend you not put too much creedence on everything you read on the internet.

Thundercat
Ninja says:

June 17, 2005 at 5:47 pm

Cool man, delete the post’s if you want, including this one.

It’s a Friday night and as a student of seduction, you know where I’m headed tonight………….
JBG says:

June 18, 2005 at 2:31 am

Anyone who has such a negative attitude to any group of people deserves to fail with women.. Im sorry that you dislike jewish people probably because some jewish friend of yours meets more attractive women than you.. Seriously though I believe your intelligence is higher than that to go around bashing different races and religions of people.. Get a life outside of your limited views. and well the ultimate ass hole advice for you cock sucker face is to stop thinking about me so much