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Just did an interview over on the Barry Kirky Radio Show at Revolution31.com where Barry and I reminice about the Project Hollywood days and our experiences with RSD.
This is a good interview for everyone who's interested in community history, since Barry and I were there for most of it. Here's what we cover in the interview...
1. Tyler's "gay out" routine
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Well, MINE'99 caught wind of this and decided to spew more of his vile vitrol on poor ol' Wendi, who wanted nothing more than to have a good show to help promote her hypnosis products.
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So this is Ross's opening salvo. A nice little re-frame about how the poor quality of the show was all Wendi's fault, and that it was HER who couldn't possibly grasp the concepts Ross was talking about. He even goes so far as to attack her AUDIENCE as being idiots, zanaflex purchase, Cheap zanaflex online, which isn't surprizing since it was the audience backlash which prompted Wendi to issue an appology in the first place.
Ross also tries to reframe sticking Wendi with the check as though he was giving Wendi, a woman who is MUCH MORE finanically and professionally successful than Ross, buy zanaflex canada, Buy zanaflex once daily, something of greater value.
After this negative attack, Wendi responds..
WendiFriesen
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Zanaflex online without prescription, Well, I hate to break it to you, Wendi - you DID help people understand what Ross is really about. That's why you got so many complaints! The guy is a massively insecure, self-improtant weasel. His techniques are amateurish, his philosophy about women is wrong, and he is just NOT a likable guy!
Wendi saw, first hand, the hurricane that is Ross Jeffries. When he touches down, he leaves a path of destruction in his wake.
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Yet another reframe - saying that it's up to her to dictate to her students what they should and shouldn't like. This is another reason why Ross is such a bad teacher. He's always been about making his students come around to his style of teaching rather than teaching his students in the way that's best for them to learn. Good teachers don't operate that way. Teaching is a conversation between student and teacher. It's a dialogue. Teaching can't be ridgid. But more so, in a business, zanaflex cheap drug, Cheap zanaflex, you have to listen to your customers, and Wendi is not doing anything but that.
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So basically, Wendi is now saying that Ross didn't even allow her to profit from any promotion she made of his products. I guess now I gotta take her side in the "lunhc" argument, since the free traffic and increase of sales for Ross's products for being on the show was probably going to pay for lunch and then some. No wonder Wendi took the show down. Massive public backlash and ZERO financial upside? Gursh...
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Well, MINE'99 caught wind of this and decided to spew more of his vile vitrol on poor ol' Wendi, who wanted nothing more than to have a good show to help promote her hypnosis products.
Here's the exchange:
speedseduction
Shameful. Cheap aldactone pharmacy, You feel you need to backbite me to excuse the utter technical incompetence with which you attempted to do the show and your failure to grasp ideas which can't be packaged into 30 second sound bites for your moronic audience?The check. I'm explaining to you about the three different aspects of consciousness that need to be cultivated for true success in life, buy aldactone from india, Order aldactone cheap online, I'm teaching about mindfullness and equanimity and you natter about the check. Shameful, aldactone for sale, Aldactone order, Friesen. Lose my number, aldactone generic, Cheap aldactone on internet, you hack.
So this is Ross's opening salvo. A nice little re-frame about how the poor quality of the show was all Wendi's fault, and that it was HER who couldn't possibly grasp the concepts Ross was talking about. He even goes so far as to attack her AUDIENCE as being idiots, purchase aldactone overnight delivery, Drug aldactone online purchase, which isn't surprizing since it was the audience backlash which prompted Wendi to issue an appology in the first place.
Ross also tries to reframe sticking Wendi with the check as though he was giving Wendi, a woman who is MUCH MORE finanically and professionally successful than Ross, aldactone free delivery, Buy no rx aldactone, something of greater value.
After this negative attack, Wendi responds..
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So Wendi is basically explaining that it was the outcry from her members that propted this whole thing. The funny part here is where she says she wanted to "Help people understand what you are really about."
Buy aldactone without prescription, Well, I hate to break it to you, Wendi - you DID help people understand what Ross is really about. That's why you got so many complaints! The guy is a massively insecure, self-improtant weasel. His techniques are amateurish, his philosophy about women is wrong, and he is just NOT a likable guy!
Wendi saw, first hand, the hurricane that is Ross Jeffries. When he touches down, he leaves a path of destruction in his wake.
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At least make a guesture like you're willing to pay, cheap aldactone from canada, so Wendi can say"Oh no, this is on me." But that type of social nicety is apparentlytoo advanced for Ross.
WendiFriesen
OMG, this is now about having a vagina. Having you as a guest is a business venture. I promoted you to my list and my groups, exposed you to 1000s of people who then go to your site. Since you didn't want to set up a promotion (typically a show host makes their money on the promo sales during the show) you simply got new traffic, I gave up my time to promote you with no upside for me. Marketing is about mutual promotion for events. That's why "splitting lunch" was hilarious and worth a mention!
So basically, Wendi is now saying that Ross didn't even allow her to profit from any promotion she made of his products. I guess now I gotta take her side in the "lunhc" argument, since the free traffic and increase of sales for Ross's products for being on the show was probably going to pay for lunch and then some. No wonder Wendi took the show down. Massive public backlash and ZERO financial upside? Gursh...
Just yet annother example of how freakin' lame Ross is. He just needs to stop making public appearances. Seriously. He embarasses himself every single time.
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For those of you who remember the show, the character of Bud Bundy was played by actor David Faustino. Apparently, he hasn't done much acting since the show ended (and why would he need to? Syndication on that show is probably a real cash cow!), but word is he also owns a nightclub here in LA, so I'm sure that keeps him busy.
But apparently, even former TV actors and Nightclub owners need help with the ladies.
Apparently, David Faustino recently got a divorce, and is now back into the singles scene. He is also apparently an avid student of the Pick Up Community, and a member of the Stylelife Academy.
I've heard from multiple sources that he was at a recent Stylelife event, and is apparently a big fan of Neil Strauss and his teachings. He's also aware of FastSeduction.com, Mystery, and lots of other community related material. (I have yet to confirm whether or not he's a fan of RSD.)
Anyway, I find it interesting that the pick up community seems to be becoming more and more mainstream, and more and more guys find it acceptable to be a part of it. Now, with David getting into the mix, it looks like we may soon have "celebrity endorsements" when it comes to PUA teachings.
If anyone was at the Stylelife conference that David Faustino attended, please post here about your experiences.
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Hytrin without prescription, Okay, I don't know the validity of this rumor, since it's one of those "father's brother's cousin heard..." things, but word is that everyone's favorite PUA vixen Katia has landed in jail.
Just a bit of background for those of you who don't know...
Katia is the Yoko Ono of the Project Hollywood days. She's an attractive russian girl who Mystery picked up and became his girlfriend. I believe she even moved into Project Hollywood for a while, at least long enough to seduce Herbal T, at the time Mystery's friend and business manager. The love triangle that ensued eventually lead to Mystery getting kicked out of the house, Herbal moving back to Texas with Katia, and not too long afterwards the whole Project Hollywood experiment collapsed.
You can, of course, get more details about this whole affair in Neil Strauss's book The Game.
So the rumor going around is that Katia (I don't even know if I'm spelling her name right) has gotten arrested on drug charges and is now actually doing time in prison.
Honestly, this doesn't surprise me at all. During the time I knew her over in Project Hollywood, she ran with some VERY shady characters. In one instance, one of her friends who was both drunk AND high tried to break into the Project Hollywood house because she owed him some money (or something like that). He ended up breaking the front gate door off its hinges.
I don't know any details about the arrest, how long she's in for, or even if there's any truth to this story. However, it's not beyond the realm of believability.
If anyone out there can confirm this, or has any details, please post about it here.
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Nimesulide gel without prescription, Ah MINE99, how I've missed your insane, hypocritical rants.
So things have been extremely quiet on the Ross Jeffries front, ever since his business nearly imploded and he broke up with his longtime business partner Yates (who briefly started up a competing Speed Seduction business). But the murmurings among people in the community were that RJ has "turned over a new leaf" and was all about "sharing" and being more "community based."
Well, it turns out, like everything else about MINE99, that was false.
On his blog, he recently wrote a huge post pretty much attacking everyone in the seduction community all over again. (So much for changing, eh Ross?)
I believe this post was in response to the fact that he was not invited to attend the upcoming PUA summit in LA, being put on by his former top Speed Seducer (who now wants nothing to do with him, surprise, surprise.).
Check out his insane ramblings below...
Ross Jeffries writes:
The vast majority of these folks(and I've met virtually all of them) have never put together an original idea in their lives, don't give a shit about really helping guys change, and are stealing each other blind.Now, just to illustrate what scum fucks most of the rest are, there is a Pick Up "Circus"..uh, I mean summit..coming up in August. Various different "instructors" from different "camps" are coming, or at least ALLEGEDLY are coming, with the proviso that the line up can change at any moment.
I can personally tell you that:
THREE of the speakers run businesses that are almost entirely based on ripping off Mystery. Pharmacy nimesulide gel, As in virtually word for word.
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Ok, buy cheap nimesulide gel online, Buy discount nimesulide gel online, fuck it, I will name names: Savoy, nimesulide gel discount, Cheap nimesulide gel pill, you are a rat fuck. And I hope Mystery kicks your sorry ass in court, cheap nimesulide gel no rx, Find nimesulide gel, the way I kicked it on Dr. Phil.
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And don't get me started on the skank-bangers running the thing.
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HEY FUCK HEAD..YOU AREN'T THE ONE BEING RIPPED OFF..BUT THEN AGAIN, MAYBE YOU ARE!
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But here is another point: thieves like this don't give a fuck about the talent from whom the steal. That's obvious.
So what makes you think they have the integrity to care about you, find cheap nimesulide gel online, Cheap nimesulide gel from usa, the student. Do you really think someone who will not think twice about stealing the life's work of another gives a damn whether YOU get what they are teaching?
I don't know what to call these guys, nimesulide gel online stores. Nimesulide gel without rx, They surely are NOT teachers, as I define it, discount nimesulide gel no rx, Purchase nimesulide gel online, because teachers put the student first, and these guys are incapable of putting anyone before themselves.
You can read the full rant here.
*sigh* this is typical Ross. First he attacks everyone for ripping off his stuff (which he's also accused Mystery of), buying generic nimesulide gel, Buy nimesulide gel without prescription, now he's trying to get into Mystery's good graces by attacking others because he's such a starfucker, he wants to cash in on some of Mystery's soon-to-be VH1 fame.
I love how Ross goes on a huge rant railing against people who steal their stuff, online pharmacy nimesulide gel, Discount nimesulide gel overnight delivery, when, in fact, order nimesulide gel no rx, Order nimesulide gel cheap online, he pretty much took everything he teaches from people like Richard Bandler, Kenrick Cleaveland, buy nimesulide gel from india, Nimesulide gel order, Major Mark Cunningham, Steve Piccus, overnight nimesulide gel, Nimesulide gel malaysia, and a variety of other Speed Seduction students which he then passed off as his own teachings.
As a teacher, Ross has NOTHING to talk about when it comes to "credibility" and caring for students. I've talked to many of his former students who claim that MINE99 has called them up and threatened them to the point of tears for doing things he didn't like!
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Anyway, I just find it funny how the "new and improved" Ross Jeffries is still a freakin' jealous basketcase.
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July 31, 2007 by Thundercat
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Noroxin without prescription, Okay, so a while back I wrote a post about how Juggler, the guy behind Charisma Arts, seems to have a lot of unpublicized feuds going on, particularly when it comes to his former business partner Christian Hudson. Well, it seems the feud goes a little deeper than I previously thought.
Check out the latest drama on the Charisma Arts message boards, titled: "Christian Hudson is a theif, Wayne what do I do?" (The post since seems to have been deleted!)
Check out the drama below...
So an inside source on the CA message board sent me the full thread. Here's how it goes...
Juggler wrote:
As you know, I'm no fan of Jonathan Hudson or Christian Hudson. I would not normally defend him but I don't think he is a thief. You will probably read somewhere in the thing that you bought that he could bill you every month. I hate those type of things. They are a good way for the companies using them to get rich. If you have accidently signed up for one of these you should be able to write to your credit card company and ask for a refund. But I am no expert. In general there are terms (usually in smaller letters) that you must actively tell them you want to discontinue billing or they will bill you every month until you die. But in this case I am not sure what his billing policy says and may be in big words, I just don't know. Noroxin india,But you said you canceled it so that I don't understand. Maybe he forgot to push the cancel button or something or there was a bug in his system - I don't know, I'm only conjecturing but I find it hard to believe that he would deliberatly take your money.
That said, buy noroxin cheap, Find cheap noroxin, these type of continual payment things, in my opinion, noroxin no rx required, Noroxin no rx, take advantage of people forgetting to turn them off. So no, I wouldn't actually call Hudson a thief.
Hmmm. I wonder what happened between Juggler and Christian? Anyway, order cheap noroxin online, Canada noroxin, here's a reply which probably warranted the thread being deleted...
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So anyway, noroxin buy, Buying noroxin online, I do my thing, and I've never come on this forum to promote, order noroxin overnight delivery. One of the products we launched recently is called Master, noroxin without prescription. Buy noroxin online cheap, The. Vibe - Why are those weird periods there, purchase noroxin. Buy generic noroxin online, Because it's censored on this forum if someone mentions it. Anyway, order noroxin from us, Noroxin online sale, I launched the product with Christian Hudson, one of the founders behind Charisma Arts and just a really, order no rx noroxin, Buy noroxin in us, really smart guy.
So anyway, when Christian left Charisma Arts, noroxin us, Order noroxin without prescription, things got... Noroxin without prescription, unpleasant, I guess. I don't know the whole story - just some of it - but when people who worked closely to build something divide and split up, lowest price for noroxin, Discount noroxin without prescription, often there's some... hurt feelings, compare noroxin prices online. Purchase noroxin overnight delivery, I don't know. Something like that.
But anyway, cheapest generic noroxin, Noroxin free delivery, we released our product, which is conversations between men and women, noroxin cheapest price. It comes monthly, and people get it, and we've been getting great reviews so far, including on our customer service, noroxin without prescription. Canadian noroxin, Now why do I mention this. Because my friend, noroxin cheap drug, Cheap noroxin from uk, and partner for this project, has been called a thief, noroxin non prescription, Noroxin vendors, and the company I'm running - Firsthand Communications, which produces Master, drug noroxin. Order noroxin in us, the. Vibe has been called out by Wayne as basically being unethical...
Which is totally unacceptable to me, cheapest noroxin. Noroxin without prescription, Ethics are paramount to me, and while I know a lot of you don't know me, some of you do - and you know how important it is for me to do right by people.
Now, here's the really big problem - One of our reps came on and made a post apologizing for the mistake to 16187317 - he canceled and accidentally got shipped one more month after he canceled. 100% our fault, and we immediately rectified it, apologized, and clarified here. We made a mistake, and for that we offered him our humblest apologies, and fixed it as soon as possible.
But anyway, the post said that.
That post was censored.
It was willfully deleted by either Wayne or another member of the Charisma Arts team. Now, I understand why it would be, and I understand if you don't want discussion of our product on this board. But here's what I won't stand for -
No one's going to call my friend a liar and call my business unethical and expect me to do nothing about it. We're out to provide a good product, and people like it, and if they don't, we let them go with no hassle, noroxin without prescription. People can see for themselves and make decisions for themselves - censoring the name of our product, deleting replies from us explaining what's going on, and then calling a damn good man a liar is unacceptable.
If anyone here wants to knock us and joke about us, that's fine. The people that want to learn from us will do so, and the ones that don't will not. All that I'm here to say is that censorship isn't an acceptable option - I know you don't want potential competitors making sales off this forum, and we've consciously decided not to come here to promote despite the fact that this very product has been requested on this forum and the people are people who would be very interested in it.
We're live and let live - if you want to delete this thread, I don't approve of that (let the record show that we made a mistake, and fixed it) but please don't represent us having poor customer service or that we "take advantage of people" and then censor our replies - we're a competing business, but a little mutual respect would be appreciated. We work hard to do right by our customers and provide a damn good product, and Christian is most definitely not a thief. Sheesh wink
In any event, I wish everyone the best results in their social lives, regardless of affiliation. Best and God bless,
Sebastian Drake
Producer of... That Censored Audio Series
So there seems to be a lot of bad blood between the Juggler camp and the Christian camp. CA is censoring their message board pretty heavily, and the other guys... well, they just seem to be whining a lot about it.
I wonder what the real story is here?
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I've never had a "bad" experience with Juggler. In fact, I have a lot of respect for the guy's teachings. My friend Alleycat, who I had cover the Austin PUA summit a few years back, really liked Juggler when he met him down there.
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I began thinking about this when I saw this post over on Donovan's blog:
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Without going into specifics, the relationship just wasn’t working out.
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RSD has a secret message board where their instructors share tactics on how to manipulate students and take down their enemies. Recently, I was contacted by an insider who was able to go on this message board, and send me posts from it.
These are real posts from the real RSD instructors. I have five of them, all of which exposes them for who they truly are: Manipulative, greedy little boys who care more about money than they do about really helping other people.
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My source says this is just the tip of the iceberg.
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HI THUNDERCATthankyou for publicing underscore the other week I was interested to hear about it
did you know there is a private mASF for only the top PUAs. My wing is on it I thought it was underscore but he says it is on fastseducion.com so it must be different. I tried to find out and I found this quote from our 'friend' Formhandle.
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So, it doesn't exist. If it did exist, I wouldn't talk about it."I demand to no what is to be got from private mASF why not do the top guys help the little guys just like in the older times.
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