June 28, 2005 by Thundercat
Filed under Drama & Rumors
Wow, now he’s comparing himself to the Emperor from Star Wars. Doesn’t seem to realize the Emperor is an evil manipulative bad guy, does he? Yikes.
Just read the comments of the linked post above for more proof of MINE’99′s madness. This guy is truly losing his grip on reality.
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I still seriously suggest that he get an MRI and a CAT Scan, before the possible tumor progresses too far along for anything to be done.
Jesus, even Bishop is smart enough to see when it is a joke.
But probably NOT Thundercat.
RJ
93/93
ross is shilling his free phone consult on ASF, has anyone called yet? i wonder if it is any good?
It’s only a marketing campaign aimed at extracting what new product to put out on the market. He said so himself on one of his programs, that the phone consults are designed more for his benefit, than for yours. He needs to know what to offer to stay in business and he probably has something up his sleeve when he’s talking to you, like anchoring you to his products? I encourage you to call up and record the conversation to release it on the web and we can see for ourselves; A checks and balances system.
Thats a bit harsh. Ok so he is doing what any successful business does to survuve. Remember the early days circa 1991?? Wow how far have we come ( although I still rememner being so happy the day the book arrived in the mail ). Look at Tyler Durden, a complete 180 in what he espouses on mASF ( although I do not know the content of his seminars or any, if any books ).
I applaud Ross as long as his students get laid.
In reponse to “Ninja” who wrote:
“It’s only a marketing campaign aimed at extracting what new product to put out on the market. He said so himself on one of his programs, that the phone consults are designed more for his benefit, than for yours. He needs to know what to offer to stay in business and he probably has something up his sleeve when he’s talking to you, like anchoring you to his products? I encourage you to call up and record the conversation to release it on the web and we can see for ourselves; A checks and balances system.”
Using a phone consult as a way to find out what new products to create, is a wise business practice. Provided it’s not the ONLY benefit to come from the phone consult. So, while I have lost all respect for Ross, I personally see nothing wrong with doing this. Again, provided he’s actually looking to help, and not just to “information gather” and manipulate.
One truly loses sight of his customer’s needs when he STOPS listening to what they want, and instead just focuses on what HE feels like making into a product. That’s why I prefer to just add to my exiting products, instead of laying out a huge catalog of products that can be easily compiled instead. At most, I will be adding 2 more different products. Otherwise, I’ll just continue to add to what’s in my existing products, and giving it away to those who were wise enough to buy early, when it was lower in price. (Like the audio files I’m adding to “Unleashing the Phoenix” soon. *shameless plug, but I DO have a business to run. LOL*)
But I’m running away from the original point.
If he uses that same phone consult to mindfuck people however, into buying whatever items he wants you to buy, “to really get the skills” THAT I strongly do NOT agree with. If for no other reason, eventually that customer will “come to his senses” and realize what you did. (Karma is real)Once that happens, you’ve lost the customer, and potentially many more people that the customer is able to get through to.
People don’t have to like me, believe me, or buy from me. But my words here still make sense regardless.
Oh, and I wouldn’t suggest having soemone record the phone consult and post it. I have two words for you: Linda Tripp.
But there’s nothing illegal if you let him know you’re recording the convo for personal training purposes. No one of ethical motives would object, outside of expressing legal action if you attempt to sell the recording without compensating him.
Okay, I’ll be outta here until after the seminar. So if you have something to say to me, or to ask me, e-mail me.
“The light of the righteous shall burn bright, while the lamp of the wicked shall be snuffed out.”
Righteous? Wicked? This from a convicted criminal who couldn’t muster the self-control to avoid breaking into his ex-fiance’s house and lying to the cops about it.
Do you have any real friends in the world? Do you talk to your parents(maybe you are still living off of them? what kind of man in his 30′s lives with his parents?) or to any of the people you knew like Greg Bird or Orion?
The Wolfsbane
Great minds discuss ideas,
Average minds discuss events,
Small minds discuss people.
and thats the…
TRUTH (just kidding)
as for the bishop bashers, no pun intended drop the “criminal” shit who cares. no-ones perfect
Bishop, you are going to ROCK at Montreal…..
Show’em HOW real seduction is done!
The Real Bishop, I have something to discuss with you. Please email me, DJohnson241@gmail.com.
Greetings,
Almost everything people speak about here, and similar forums, are things that came naturally to me. Pickups were not only pretty easy, but a passion, so I’m not at a loss for stories or even a bit of analysis of them for those who like that sort of thing.
When I was immature and inconsiderate, it was a breeze. I just racked em up one after another, then one day I realized I had to “grow up”.
Now here’s where a question starts to form. After putting my focus into things like developing a successful online business, my former techniques still have merit, but no longer match my maturity level.
I don’t begin or end my sentences with “Dude” anymore yet I still understand that most women who need a good fucking deny it until they can’t deny it any more. And that it’s the intelligent male’s job to help her break free of that lie.
So speed seduction really interests me, and it has even since I first spied it almost 10 years ago. And since I have the real deal experience of seduction being a natural part of my youth, I’d be both comfortable and confident putting to use any of the techniques and lessons taught these days.
The question is, then….which one really bypasses all of the juvenile references and could be said to be written/developed by someone who is not just an ego-tripper but a real, deal, serious aficionado of seduction.
That is all I care about. I’m not a fan of the gossip and who’s fighting who and who’s “the man” this week. I just want to know, from the perspective of someone who feels this stuff deep in his bones, what’s a brother to choose?
Your suggestions are most welcome and warmly received in advance.
And if any of you fledgling compatriots would like a story or two, just ask. You’ll be able to tell, without a doubt, there’s the real mojo in them because they’re so unusual and clever,so non-amateurish in the telling, that it will be like the radio telescopes of the SETI operation have picked something up for the first time ever.
So which course, book, manuals, whatever, is the real seduction lover’s bible…
Thank you, in advance,
Freelancer
you ll be looking for “the joy of sex” by alex comfort oh and if you ve got the time check out “the kama sutra”, it s a bit old now but its got lots of pictures and thats the….
TRUTH
Hello Truth,
I think you misunderstood.
I could have written either of those books. I’m interested in a response from someone who is bright enough to cut the fog rather than add to it.
Thanks for your clever humor. It must get you laid often.
Freelancer
Freelancer since you ask for the real seduction lover’s bibel. And on top of that claim that “Pickups were not only pretty easy, but a passion”. I think I should inform you that most manuals, books, etcetera out there are written by men who were bad with women to begin with (so they proudly claime, could be a marketing trick), and I’m not talking about their youth here. The material written by women exudes social matrix programming, so these are not worthwhile either. The only book I’ve read that was interesting and hit various topics right on the head wa actually a summary of an investigation among true ladiesmen. It called Sexual Report Modeling: Situational Opener Technology by Keanu J. Jagger.
The actual interesting stuff can be found outside the community. Try Ralph Peter’s ‘Fighting for the Future’. Here you can read and learn what true masculinity is all about. He is capable of advocating dispassionate action from a compassionate heart.
Bishop is the man huh, strange this picture would seem to PROVE otherwise:
Bishop Fake Picture Exposed
Got any comment Bishop
Try This one Instead
http://tinyurl.com/7pbgp
http://tinyurl.com/7pbgp
Hey “TRUTH” you tool…..that link does not work
Try the second one
Truth-
Get a job.
Well link does not tell anyone shit…yes yes the pick does look “fake”….but what about the other picks..then again why am I talking about this stuff..dammit
The picture IS FAKE, ask the correct questions:
Why would Bishop create and upload a fake picture?
Is this the action of a man who actually gets some?
How does it feel to be lied to and taken for a sucker?
Could the other pictures be real and perhaps be with friends, relations, hookers?
Well TRUTH your points make sense..but I have not bought any of Bishops ebooks or whatever…but I did read his book “Unleash the Phoenix” or what that crappy books name is. Its down right garbage.
As for you TRUTH sounds like you’re the one who got ripped off by Bishop
“Freelancer since you ask for the real seduction lover’s bibel. And on top of that claim that “Pickups were not only pretty easy, but a passion”. I think I should inform you that most manuals, books, etcetera out there are written by men who were bad with women to begin with (so they proudly claime, could be a marketing trick), and I’m not talking about their youth here. The material written by women exudes social matrix programming, so these are not worthwhile either. The only book I’ve read that was interesting and hit various topics right on the head wa actually a summary of an investigation among true ladiesmen. It called Sexual Report Modeling: Situational Opener Technology by Keanu J. Jagger.”
That stuff is put out by the Seduction Science people.
The Truth above is not me. Just some pretender, who is trying to stir up trouble. I just wanted to clarify….
….and that’s the….
-Truth
Is it the TRUTH?
Oooooh, I smell a red herring. Someone’s being a little sneaky. Whoever could be the real Truth?
Yeah, there is a pretender out there, it was so obvious it wasn’t the REAL TRUTH. The Truth’s exit is unmistaken, and that other guy is obviously part of the SS cult trying to bring Bishop down. Fuck them, Bishop is for real…
I think Bishop is actually one of the few good ones out there. I will be on one of his new CDs.
My 8 CD set is on sale now. They are the best CDs for getting laid. They will make you into a real animal! I think you will enjoy them!
http://www.attractanddate.com
http://www.fidentia.org
Again somebody is using my nickname, I guess it is competition….they will newer get laid like that, thats for shure!
Again somebody is using my nickname, I guess it is competition….they will newer get laid like that, thats for shure!
Shark, you are acting like you forgot everything I taught you. Stop whining.
RJ
93/93
CRAZY!!!
Someone just posted fake posts under my nickname, Ranko’s, Karl and Truth’s nicknames.
I haven’t posted anything here in the past 3 days.
THUNDERCAT! It is time to put up a passworded comments system!
Oh and under RJ/s nickname and k1labee’s… Someone has managed to in the past 3-4 days turn these comments from the center place of the community into a useless piece of junk.
This was the place where you could come and see all the BEST in the community say what they say, as well as get the uncensored opinion of the majority.
this unfortunately is no longer the case. So THUNDERCAT, it’s high time to password this bitch.
Since there is spoofing going on here by some real losers, you should know Bishop that I have not emailed you and if anyone is posing as me, he is a fake. We will meet up in Vegas when the time is right.
Thanks for the feedback, gentlemen.
The spoofing could be solved if
IP addresses were made visible.
“Ross”, I don’t know if you’re the real Ross Jeffries, or not.
It doesn’t matter to me personally, but if you are,
why would you spend any time making unnecessary
comments like those above.
Thanks,
Freelancer
Ross and Shark are attracted to Internet flaming like flies are to shit.
Uneccessary. One or two boys from the SS cult TRYING to ruin it for the rest of us. We should all behave like Pooahhs, Venutian Artists, Badboys, or whatever you want to call yourself, this isn’t nursery school.
Well, let me tell you something about Speed Seduction. I’ve not been exposed to the other courses and programs, and have had only a cursory look at SS, but if I had to choose at gunpoint, I’d take SS for the simple fact that the patterns I heard sounded so close to me when I regularly worked the crowds.
I said I’d share one for the asking, but noone’s asked, so I’ll share a closing line that I’m pretty sure absolutely noone will immediately realize as an amazing closer.
I’d had pretty good rapport and unbeatable eye contact all throughout my conversation with this really hot petite, mature blonde. Near the end of the night, we were sitting at the bar and said,
“You know how I know you’re going home with me tonight?”
“How?”, she asked.
(i was in wide-angle mode taking in as much as I could all the way to the peripherals)
So without turning my head, I put my finger right under a tiny dot on the wall and said, “Because I’m aware of this dot and you aren’t.”
God the shit I came up with…guys would try so hard to not be noticed standing close by so they could overhear the conversation.
One guy, an expert cock-blocker used to stand next to me, staring, and would even say to the girls, “I’m just standing here so I can listen to him fuck with your head.” not just once..but he’d have to repeat TWICE, in the most obnoxious voice imaginable.
Why was he allowed in the group?
a) Being a great seducer doesn’t mean you have to be heartless. In fact, the more heart you have, the more seductive you can be.
b) The old adage, “What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger.” not only sounds good, but if you’re not a coward, you have to accept it as true. This guy made things so difficult for people to get laid, that I considered it a milestone when I was able to still get laid no matter what he did or said. In fact, he could even puke on the girl I was talking to, and I would still find a way to her bed.
I love shagging a girl in her own bed. See, if you shag her in yours…well, that’s alright, but if you shag her in hers, you can anchor her memory of pleasure with you to all kinds of objects in her room. So everything in her room reminds her of you.
For example, if you don’t bang her with a pair of her pantyhose over her head, then you’re making a huge mistake and missing out on an almost unrivalled opportunity. Every day she puts her nylons on for work, guess whose face arrives…. yours.
Don’t think about it. Do it. I’ll delay any desperate need I have for your gratitude, just go do it now.
One more exchange before I go.
A Candadian hotty walked into a Harvard boat-shoe boy college area bar. This chick was in a leopard mind, halter top, and some wierd head band that made her look like something out a POISON music video. Clearly she was out of the league of the boat-shoe boys.
I walked over with full confidence and chatted her up with small talk, but realizing that this girl was very simply a “fucking machine” and not there to satisfy some deep passionate need to talk, I began the close…
With a gaze held on her eyes, so she would not be able to mistake what I was really trying to say from the start, I asked…
“How long of a drive is it from your place to here?”
“5 minutes.”, she replied.
“How about by bike?” I added.
“10 minutes.” she answered.
“And if you were walkin’?”, I countered, moving in for the victory.
“Around 20 minutes.”
So I took her hand and started walkign towards the door and said, “Well, we’d better get going because it looks like we’re walkin’…”
Now that right there would have been just fine and made a great story. In fact, what I’m about to add either completely validates the story, or makes me a truly exceptional liar….
Halfway to the door she manages to inform me, “Well, actually, I took my bike.”.
Without missing a beat, I sealed the deal with, “Then we’re takin’ a cab!”
So we took the front wheel off her bike and put it in the trunk of the cab.
And again, that would be a fine ending for any story told by an amateur or a non-exceptional liar, but you deserve better than that.
We got back to her house rental which, oddly enough, had countless apples in various stages of fermentation littering the front yard all the way up to the steps.
We stepped inside and she said, “Excuse me one second while I use the bathroom.” after which I stripped out of my clothes and sat on the edge of her bed, stroking my cock while facing the bathroom door – thinking that I would just waste no time, shock the hell out of her and gain the advantage of surprise.
But lo and behold, the bathroom door opened and she comes out stark naked, throws one leg up on her bureau and starts masturbating with me and moaning. Then she comes over and kneels down in front of me and says, “you know what i like about you?”
And I asked, “What?”
She said, “You know how much I need to suck your cock.” Ok, I’m not perfect, I should have just shut up and not said anything but I responded with an awkward, “oh yeah, i do.” My silence would have said the same thing only much stronger.
Anyways, two more things worth telling happened, ok, 3 but i’m going to summarize because I wanted to give some short examples, but there’s no way to really shorten these….and if they’re good, it would be a crime to anyways…so here’s the 3 final events.
1) I tried to anal bang her and she pulled away chiding me, “Not on the first night you asshole!” The irony was almost too much to bear but I maintained my composure and let her go on imagining that she had somehow successfully defended her honor.
2) I told her to sit on my face and gush one out in my mouth. Not only did I think I could handle it, but I was SURE I could since I’d always had. Well, this was about as close to having my jaw broken as I’d ever come. Not that I minded it but she got a pitbull’s lock on the headboard, and just ground my face into hamburger.
Despite hearing a voice I couldn’t rightfully call my own exclaiming, “Holy Shit!” inside my head each time she ground down, I have to say I really did enjoy it. No messing around with pansy ass face riding for this chick.
3) Being renowned for my longevity, we hit the 4 hour mark and the sun was about to come up and this chick just couldn’t stay awake any more…..even under full bore. Now you think a guy would take insult with this. Well, I’ve two words for you…
NO. and WAY…..
Was it due to my confidence? Doubtfully so, thought that would be the easy and most obvious conclusion. But the truth is that it was because there was something sickly exciting about knowing that I could continue to completely do any and all of the nastiest most perverted stuff to her with hardly a chance of her coming to… I mean, if she passed out at the 4 hr mark while I was tapping her like an oil rig, then she wasn’t waking up for nothing.
I know what you’re thinking – anal bang! But for some reason, it didn’t occur to me. Not because I didn’t want to, but because I just have a greater thrill from oral activity. So I proceeded to ream her mouth out for like a half hour….I mean AS HARD AS I POSSIBLY COULD down her throat and like only two or three times did she do the half-assed hand push-away and a little mumbling, and then it was back to jackhammering her tonsils.
Ok, so here’s how it ended.
I didn’t want to sleep there. It would have given her the most wrong idea possible if she woke up with me beside her. So after a half hour of drilling this girls oral cavity, I finally pulled out and goalie masked her.
Now, I actually held out for those 4.5 hours so that was my first and only nut. Do any of you here know what a nut looks and acts like when it’s been building up for 4.5 hours? Can you say a firehose shooting glue? The splat was so hard some of it actually bounced off and ended up on her left kneecap. Not directly – but from a splatter off the lips!
Anyways, to make a long story longer, I painted her face with more spooj than you would ever understandably believe could fit into a pair of ballsacks. I basically equalled the load capacity of a 5 to 10 man bukkake.
I squeezed that last drops out onto her lips, towelled off using her hair, slipped my pants on and for some reason perhaps owing to my otherwise good disposition, said goodbye, as if maybe she could hear me and I didn’t want to seem insensitive.
Talk about “false concern”! I had no idea why I thought that way, maybe just to convince myself I was really a nice guy so I could go on doing more of what I always did so well.
Alright, this went on a lot longer than I intended….like that night.
Ciao for now, guys. If someone can get around to answering my question about the “quintessential SS type material”, I’d appreciate it. Clifford Mee’s hypno card deck? etc
Freelancer
“
Freelancer that was the most fucking funny sex tale i’ve heard in ages thanks for the laugh and good luck being the “nice guy”…lol