25 Neg Hits

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We all know Mystery came up with the idea of "neg hits," where you use a subversive insult to socially lower a girl’s value to make it easier to pick her up.  SuperGigaloDJ over on the Don Juan boards just posted a list of 25 of them that I think are worth checking out:

SuperGigaloDJ writes:
1.
Jason: Are those nails real?
HB9: No
Jason: Oh. Well at least they look nice.

2.
Jason: You’re pretty dark is that tan real?
HB9: No I went tanning.
Jason: Oh. Well at least it looks real.

3.
HB9: Do you like my new haircut?
Jason: Yeah I like it little messy on top. (If it’s straight)

4.
HB9: Do you like my new haircut?
Jason: Yeah I like the left site. (If her hair is different no each side)

5.
HB9: Hey let’s go get some ice cream!
Jason: Hell yeah let’s do it. I like a girl who’s not afraid to gain some pounds.

6.
Jason: Cool shoes. My mom has a pair just like that.

7.
Jason: Mm that perfume smells good. I think my mom has that same one.

8.
HB9: Do you like my new purse?
Jason: Yeah that one’s really popular. A lot of girls at my school have that one.

9.
Jason: Hey there is this girl in my class who has that same shirt!

10.
HB9: Hey check out my new watch.
Jason: Oh yeah I really like that one. My cousin has the same one!

11.
Jason: What did ya buy?
HB9: I bought a new shirt.
Jason: Cool lemme see it.
HB9: Here.
Jason: Oh nice. My moms got one just like it.

12.
Jason: That’s really cute how your nose wiggles when you talk.

13.
Jason: Is that your real hair color?
HB9: No it’s dyed.
Jason: Oh. Well at least it looks good.

14.
Jason: I like your make-up job.

15.
Jason: I like the color of your eyes.
HB9: Hehe thanks. They’re contacts.
Jason: Oh. Well they look nice.

16:
Jason: Hey cool cell phone. This girl in my class has the same one.

17:
HB9: Do you think I’m fat?
Jason: No but I like it when I can pinch a little here. (And then pinch her stomach)

18:
Jason: Hey weren’t you wearing the same outfit the other day?

19:
Jason: You have something in your teeth.

20:
Jason: Hey nice outfit! I like that better than the one you wore last time.

21:
Jason: How old are you?
HB9: I’m __
Jason: Oh. You look older.

22.
Jason: Nice jeans.
HB9: Thanks
Jason: They make your ass look small. (I would suggest this only after a few dates!)
HB9: Oh.. Thanks.

23.
Jason: Nice breasts are they real?
HB9: No
Jason: Oh.. At least they look real. (At the strip club)

24.
Jason: You have big feet for a girl but those shoes look good on you.
HB9: Oh… Thanks.

25.
Jason: Hey I like this CD.
HB9: Oh thanks.
Jason: Yeah my grandma has this same one.

Of course, these are all oldies, but goodies.  Neg hits, when used right, can be quite powerful (especially with beautiful women).  When used wrong, though, they can really backfire on ya!  Just remember, with most girls you’ll never want to use more than one neg hit!  With REALLY hot girls, maybe up to three, but any more than that and you could blow her out.  Use them wisely!

How To Get Laid Fast

Aside from the obvious answer of "Get A Hooker!", the once lost but now found Nightblue chimes in with some game tactics that will get you laid quick.

Nightblue writes:
Im going to get straight to the point assuming there is no need to write much more than can be remembered anyway.

Since the point is a gamestyle for quick lays, you should be behaving like a guy who is suitable for it.

A lot of guys actually screw up a good lay potential by "gaming" while
they should be fucking. Im not talking about the 7 hour thing. Thats a
different style. If you get too much into rapport
the girl will rethink sleeping with you, since the interaction wont be
a "were going to fuck later" type of interaction. That’ll be the vibe.

Which girl will fuck a guy one hour after she told him her childhood camp or dead bunny. It wont happen.

Thats more for types that you want to keep around, you have the rapport
attraction and the sex comes later. I personally dont want to keep
around every girl I have sex with as in any type of relationship.

OTOH, for quick lays, the message you should be conveying is, "I live
by the day and enjoy every moment" type of stuff. Which obviously
includes "I fuck who I want to fuck at any given time, I only need to
want to".

When you get her into your frame, which shouldnt be a problem if you
know about the strong reality concept, you’ll be laying her pretty
soon.

Some things that convey this are:

-Acting extreme, as in not caring what others think

Extreme is pretty good actually. Not weird extreme. As in extreme
confidence. Shy/dumb girls will look up to you and perceive you as
higher value since they cant behave like that.

Social/extreme girls will love it since you’ll be on the same wave. You’ll understand eachother.

-Having stories that your a spontaneous guy and live life moment to moment

Basically conveys that you live like this so its normal to have sex
pretty soon, without knowing eachother for hours/days/weeks.

-Being TOO comfortable doing anything you want

These
majorly include things like slap her ass to tease her or when she
shittests you. And doing other stuff that convey sexual awareness and
relax ness. Youre setting up the right vibe early on so the shift wont
be problematic.

i.e. The traveller or rebelic types work miracles in combination with
the above characteristics and behaviors, since they can fit perfectly
into eachother.

Seriously, getting laid quick is about having a certain attitude and aggressively going after what you want.  Many girls will get "swept up" by a guy who pushes the right buttons and sets the frame of "this is going to happen."  I agree with Nightblue that you really do have to set-up this dynamic early on in the interaction.  A sudden switch to this type of style down the road will seem to come out of left field and might touch off warning signal’s in the woman you’re with.

Transitioning To Natural Game

Looks like Dimitri isn’t the only excellent poster over at Rapid Social Impact.  Woodhaven has a great post up about how to transition to a more natural pick-up game.  It’s very long, but well worth the read.

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The Best Time For Cocky & Funny

mASF Mega-poster ijjjji has a fantastic post up about when exactly is the best time to use the David DeAngelo technique of Cocky & Funny when interacting with a girl.

ijjjji writes:
Lately, I
have learned that there is a time when C&F is MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE
than early on before she is into you. The logic that says to attract
her, then seduce her, may be a bit off..

What I have seen is this: Early C&F spikes BT (buying temp) sharply
and strongly. But after this early spike, it is KINDA HARD to spike her
BT again. Its like she is ‘prepared’ and impossible to surprise. As if
she is onto your game.. a feeling like you have played your best card
too early…

The best time I found for C&F is when its getting late and you are
both kinda unsure where its leading. Maybe it was totally on and then
things cooled slightly cos she started thinking about consequences of
going home with you. Maybe you had full rapport but there was a slight
taint of friendliness to it, despite the kino
and the closeness. Maybe you made out like crazy and now she feels she
went a bit too far. No matter the reason, its getting late and its not
fully ON yet. THIS IS THE PERFECT TIME FOR C&F according to my
experience!

Possible reasons why:

-She will forget any sleepiness she probably feels at this point.
-She will forget about the outcome/sex/slut risk that has started to enter her frame since its becoming bed time.
-Since she is already a little into you, the spike brings her all the way up to ‘I wanna rape you now’ BT.
-She has spent some time with you and you still manage to surprise her.
-A lot of guys flirt (C&F) early on. You are different from the rest.

The only exception I found: Unreceptive girls. Girls with bitch shield and girls who have so high energy state or is so pre-occupied, that only high octane stuff can get their attention.

So, think about C&F as a trump card. Save it for when its needed.

I’ve noticed this too, that if you use too much cocky and funny early on, things can peeter out later in the interaction.  Maybe it’s because you set a certain standard that you can’t keep living up to in the interaction.  But regardless, I do notice that C&F works really well once you have a measure of rapport and comfort going.

Being and Becoming Attractive

Dimitri, of Rapid Social Impact (no, that’s not a porno movie), has an excellent, excellent, excellent post up about attraction and what it takes to be attractive.  It’s a very long post, but incredibly informative.  If Dimitri teaches half as well as he writes, those Real Social Dynamics guys might have some major competition!

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Levels Of Communication

Ever wonder about the communication differences between men and women?  Well, here is an 18 page PDF report on sexual communication, courtesy of superhappysex.com.  Hat tip to Posman on the Bad Boy forums for pointing out this one.

Traits of a Seducer

Raymond, over at his blog Bulletproof Pimp, has a pretty good post up about the traits and qualities the best seducers have.

Raymond writes:
Seduction is counterintuitive.
I would not have believed that Marc scored so many women if I had not
seen the evidence with my own eyes. I would have expected his more
mature, responsible, and better-looking brother to do much better than
him. The
essential building blocks of seduction are so counterintuitive, so
contrary to what rational analysis would lead you to, that the typical
guy will never figure out seduction on his own. I believe that
some men stumble across sexual success. Other guys will implement the
handful seduction strategies that are part of the popular
consciousness: work hard, buy her flowers, get a good job, be honest,
be yourself, treat her like a lady, etc., and these strategies are
doomed to fail.

 The
strategies that lead to success with women are so crazy, so irrational,
that a guy who strikes out with women will simply redouble his efforts
with those same failed techniques. In warfare the only way to
survive an ambush is to charge into the teeth of the enemy’s fusillade.
The successful technique of charging directly into hostile fire is
contrary to a man’s instinct, and so he must be trained in order to
survive. The secrets to seducing women seem like total insanity, such
that a man on his own will never figure them out in a million years.

 The master seducer’s “liabilities” are actually his assets.
Looked at rationally, there seemed to be dozens of factors holding Marc
back from success with women, but you should realize that these
handicaps were actually the means of his success. His lack of
commitment seemed spontaneous. His dangerousness was exciting. His
don’t give a damn attitude was carefree and relaxed. His inability to
plan for the future meant that he was totally here in the now. The fact
that he had screwed dozens of women meant that he had a cocksure
brazenness to his approach.

Brawny beats skinny.
One advantage Marc had over his brother and me is that he had a solid,
muscular build. I was very thin at that age. How many times have you
seen an extremely skinny man with a morbidly obese woman? We tend to
think of this as a mismatch, but a thin man and a fat woman are the
easiest and most natural pairing. A fat woman is the least attractive
woman, just as the skinny man is the least attractive man. In the Jack
Sprat and wife coupling we have two unattractive people getting the
best partner they’re capable of. Moral of the story: Hit the weights
and bulk up.

 

Hold out the possibility of getting married, but don’t be a dumbass and actually get married.
An unmarried man has everything he wants, in addition to protecting his
finances and future earnings. Women want to get their hands on your
cash and are yearning for the stability and social status that come
with marriage, so they will press for a wedding. You can either be
totally up front and ruin a good thing, or play it out as long as
possible.

Stop giving a flying F’%$@. Too many men are obsessed over outcomes.

I don’t want to ask her out because she might say no.

I don’t want to risk our friendship.

I just hope that Suzy agrees to go out with me –I’m so crazy about her I just don’t know what I’ll do if she says no.

Suzy said no! I’m so devastated; I’ve never felt so low. I guess I’m just a loser in love.

But
if some girl turned Marc down his attitude was, “Stupid cunt. Well, on
to the next one.” If she was married, or engaged, or a co-worker, or
any other imaginable supposedly insuperable obstacle, Marc’s attitude
was, “Fuck it. I’m going for it.” While I moped and agonized over my
latest rejection, Marc said “fuck it” and moved on.

Marc’s
devil-may-care attitude sucked women into his own reality, offering
them a tempting world wherein they, like he, could shed all of their
duties and obligations. Marc was fun, because nothing else
mattered, and women could shed their inhibitions with him. Women want
fun and adventure, which Marc offered in abundance, not a mature,
sensible hand-to–the-plow relationship.

 

                                                    

It has been my experience that the guys who are the most illogical are the ones who seem to be naturally talented with women.  I don’t know why that is.  Maybe it’s because women are fairly illogical and that allows these natural seducers to adapt to them quicker.  But the detached "I don’t give a fuck" attitude is something at ALL seducers who are worth their salt have.  The worst thing you can do if you want to pick up a woman is get attached to her. 

Most guys fall into this trap.  They get attached to women they’re attracted to!  A good seducer will still be attracted to a woman, but he won’t place so much importance on getting her (note:  that does not me he won’t do any work to get her!  It just means that should he get rejected or it fall through, he won’t linger on it). 

I think a big reason most guys get twisted into knots when it comes to women is that they don’t know how to disassociate themselves, at least initially, from their attachment to a girl they like.  This is mostly because most guys come from such a frame of scarcity, that once they find a girl they like, they feel that they’ll never be able to find a better woman for them.

How To Get A Social Life

Who else want to know how to cultivate an active social life, even if you don’t have one right now?

Well, don’t dispair.  There are many ways in which you can improve your social life, quite easily.

Read on…

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Demonstrations Of Higher Value

Mystery once again appears on mASF posting about "DHVs" (also known as Demonstrations of Higher Value, a technique where you raise your perceived social status in the eyes of a woman in an attempt to make her all starry-eyed.  =)

Mystery writes:
We DHV and then we make HER DHV. That is what QUALIFYING really means. We aren’t actually trying to make her qualify but DHV us.

THAT is the MIRRORED parallel between A2 and A3.

We DHV and look for IOIs in A2 and then in A3 we make her DHV us so we can IOI her.

Isnt that brilliant? I discovered this mirror between A2 and A3 many
months ago. The A3 objective is to make her DHV so you can IOI so this
includes the truth inherent in both the TRUE qualifying and false
qualifying models into one elegant model. M3. the concept of QUALIFYING
(both true and false) has thus been made out of date.

I started to take this mirror idea and see if certain gambits could be
mirrored and made to help us. turns out, if you mirror GROUNDING, then
you first ground your identity to her reality and then you make her
ground HER IDENTITY TO YOUR REALITY. improves the gambit, possibly
significantly.

what other gambits could be mirrored in order to improve the gambit’s effectiveness?

Okay, to translate a bit for the uninitiated…

In Mystery Method, everything is broken down into stages.  In the Attraction phase, there are three stages you must progress through — A1, A2, and A3.  What Mystery is referring to in this post is the concept of "Qualification," which Swinggcat introduced to the community with his Push/Pull technique.  What Mystery is saying here is that when you get a girl to "qualify" to you, what you’re really doing is demonstrating higher value, then forcing her to do the same — ie: she has to prove to you that she’s on the same level as you are.

When you demonstrate higher value in the second phase of Mystery’s attraction game, you look for "Indicators of Interest" (IOIs) from the girl to see if she’s showing signs of attraction.  If she is, and she responds by trying to demonstrate her value, you move into phase 3 of Mystery’s attraction model, and then show her Indicators of Interest as well to let her know that you’re into her as much as she’s into you (aka: mutual attraction).  In Mystery’s model, once you have mutual attraction, you move into comfort.

Whew.

Anyone else think Mystery needs to lay off the acronyms?  =)

Anal Sex 101

Money_Matteo over at mASF has a rather humorous, yet informative post about the "ins-and-outs" (so to speak) of anal sex with women.

money-matteo writes:
Aaaaah, the
poop shute ! Breaking in the puckered starfish .. ok, here’s my 2 cents
on unlocking the back-door loving with your special little anal-angel.

Girls have such varying views on taking it in the pooper . The first
girl i slept with when i first got to NYC was a butt-sex monster ! the
first time we were having sex she just pulled it out of her pussy and
stuffed it in her ass WITHOUT ASKING me.. I had to actually look down
to verify what the hell had just happened ! and then to further cement
her place in the dirty-girl hall of fame she pulled it out of her ass
and stuffed it back in her pussy ! .. now NEVER do this.. this can
internally infect a girl and actually make her sterile.. once in the
pooter stay in the pooter, or take it to her mouth if you want to get
kinky with it.

This is in stark contrast to a girl I was in a relationship with
previously who was a)scared to death of taking it in the backdoor and
b)considered it sacred and wanted to save it for marriage.. This is
actually a reoccurring theme that i’ve been running into where girls
want to save their virginal butthole for that special sacred moment..
talk about back-asswards.

anyhow, if you want to stick her I think the best way to do it is assume -worst case scenario-..

NEVER bring it up outside of a sexual encounter.. i’ve made the mistake
before of bringing it up over dinner or during another non-sexual
moment.. This is fine if she wants it or has no walls against BUT if
she is resistant than up go the walls and she’ll be on the defense
waiting for your anal advances.. There is also the thought that you
should forcefully dominate her into it.. I don’t think this is a good
idea unless you are cool with only doing it once.. I’ve done the anger
anal-sex i’m gonna cram my manstick in your tight little ass you filthy
cockwhore before but she will forever remember you ripping her a new
asshole and will probably fight off repeat advances.

Here’s what you do.. don’t bring it up verbally.. Have normal sex with
her, get her super hot and bothered, start playing around her ass with
your finger rubbing around the edges until she is comfortable with
that.. slowly penetrate her with your finger. DONT ASK, just do.. be
kissing on her, fucking her good at the same time, looking in her eyes,
etc and opening her up a bit.. reach on the table and get a little lube
for the finger and continue to penetrate her.. next, flip her on her
stomach and fuck her from behind.. pull your cock out and put the head
right on her asshole and kind of push against it til its about to go
in.. keep massaging it against her and then whisper in her ear that you
want to stick it in her ASS..

She’s already heated, her ass is already lubed up a bit, your cock is
right there ready to go, and you are telling her what you are about to
do.. It’s the strongest place to be for anal negotiations..

When she gives the go-ahead be gentle.. put just the head inside her
and wait for her to adjust.. wait about 5-10 seconds before moving..
then slowly start thrusting.. she should get to a point where you can
pound away but its after she stretches out a bit and you’re properly
lubed up. Make sure you’re not putting her in too much pain otherwise
it might be a one time thing..

Also remember that anal sex is a risky procedure, if the cargo-hold is full you might need to buy a new mattress !!!

Good luck my fellow scurvy infested booty pirates !!! AARRRRRrrrrr ! Give em tha HOOK !

I would also like to point out that anal sex is also the RISKIEST type of sex you can engage in, and to only do it with a partner you trust and know their sexual history about.  Due to the tearing and bleeding that can occur (because let’s face it, the anus just isn’t naturally built for this type of action), the risk of transmitting an HIV is very high, especially for the girl.  So know what you’re getting into BEFORE you do it and always wear a condom.

Mystery Solves Last Minute Resistence?

A new post up by Design over on mASF reveals that Mystery has come up with a fool-proof way of getting past any last minute resistence a girl might put up to keep you from closing the deal…

Design writes:
This is important stuff, so I’m reposting it in T&T:

On 4/18/05 7:58:00 AM, Mystery wrote:
>If someone who took the
>bootcamp this weekend could
>kindly post a synopsis of my
>theories of and gambits for
>LMR I would appreciate it.
>Angel would find them very
>helpful and reasonable.

No prob.  (FUCK…it looks like I lost my notes…I have ThuWhacker’s though, so here it is…)

LMR, or Last Minute Resistence, is an evolutionarily hard-wired
emotional defense mechanism a girl has due to the fact that 40,000
years ago, if she got pregnant by a guy who wasn’t going to stick
around to help raise the child, she and the child would die.

Mystery describes the feeling this way: Have you ever had $10,000 on
red when you are playing roulette? LMR is like you have a lot of money
and its riding on a 50-50 chance. That is what last minute resistance
is for a girl.

There are five ways to overcome LMR, but the general principle is not
to barrel through it with eternal persistence…it’s to help her get
rid of the feeling so that she doesn’t experience it in the first place.

(1) Seven hours.  If you wait seven hours before trying to full monty her, you will dramatically reduce LMR.

(2) "You have highjacked my brain." Convince her of this and you
capitulate to the needs of her LMR: you two are pair-bonded…you won’t
just fuck her and leave. Start your "highjacked brain" campaign ten
minutes into the sarge:

"Do you want to hear the weirdest thing? I don’t know you from a hole
in the wall, I really feel this connection with you. Its so weird. Say
that when you went away, I actually missed you."

(3) The Freeze Out. This is Mystery’s classic LMR tactic. If a girl
stops you at a certain point as you are moving toward sex, and it is
not simply token resistence, you STOP. Completely. Stop. Say, "I
understand." And go do something else. It is imperative not to come off
as pouting. Rather, you’re just communicating, "If you don’t want to do
this, that’s cool." But really, this is a punishment for her since she
is aroused. You’re saying, you don’t get the reward of me arousing you
unless you’re willing to take this all the way. Anyway, stop, go do
something else, then return, maybe touch her leg, and things will
resume. Then tell her to do the thing she wouldn’t do before. Continue
as usual.

(4)"We should stop." This is for token resistence: when a girl comes up
with lots of stupid excuses why you shouldn’t be hooking up. In those
cases you just say, "You’re right, we should stop," and keep going.

(5) Riker’s 3 Rules: You tell a girl, "Look, I have three values that I
live by. One, I always wear a condom. Especially with a girl that I
first have sex with. Two, I want this to be fun. I want this to be
win-win. I want us to both enjoy it. Three, when we look back at this
tomorrow, I want us to look back and be glad that we did it. If
everything has happened again, I want us to want to do it again. If we
don’t feel these are true, then we shouldn’t do it."

And there you have it…the solution to LMR.

This is much preferable to the "hit them over the head and knock them out" method.  Be sure to take note, fellas.

Turning Choosers Into Beggers

Nightblue has a great post up about how he likes to turn “Choosers” into “Beggers.” Namely, making the girl, who’s usually the chooser, so attracted to him that she loses all her power in the interaction and starts begging to ride his rodney.

*ahem*

Nightblue says it better than I can…

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Cause and Effect

Grandmaster Dimitri, everyone’s favorite Swash-Buckling Pick-Up Artist, has an excellent post up about Cause & Effect that would make that snooty French guy from the Matrix cum in his pants.

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Straw Kiss Close

Tyler Durden has posted a rather interesting new type of kiss close.

Warning: Not for the unnimble of tongue!

Tyler Durden writes:
A pretty money way I tongued down my second day2 of the day was as follows. I was at the bar, and the straws in the drinks were the short kind. So I had the straw in my mouth and started poking her face with it. Then I kept trying to get it in her mouth. I got it in, and shifted the straw tip into the corner of my cheek so I could get it in more. Then I made out with her with the straw in both of our mouths. Kinda dangerous though. What a joke it would be to choke on it!

btw, the point of moves like these is to disarm ASD. When the girls’ brain is occupied, her ASD goes down, and her natural self comes out. Re-read this last sentence, and think about how you can apply it to your game. It’s the same reason why you can keep talking as you walk backwards, and the girls will follow, but if you go silent and say “Come over here”, they may not come. Anything that occupies their brains disarms ASD and they basically become like guys (except even more forward, as girls are more sexual than most guys).

You can read the whole thread here.

ijjjjji Method, version 1

Well, it seems that ijjjjji has FINALLY gotten around to writing his own method, and in true Gunwitch style, has given it away for free on mASF. I am reposting it here for all of you to enjoy and refer to.

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