Desmond Morris on Body Language

June 17, 2005 by  
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Santino Nero has an interesting post up on his blog about the "12 steps of Body Language," (which is actually a quote from BG on his blog).  So props to both these guys for calling attention to it:

"Desmond Morris identified twelve steps which Western couples pass
through on the way to sexual intimacy. Occasionally a step may be
missed out, but they almost always occur in this order:

1. Eye to body
2. Eye to eye
3. Voice to voice
4. Hand to hand
5. Arm to shoulder
6. Arm to waist
7. Mouth to mouth
8. Hand to head
9. Hand to body
10. Mouth to breast
11. Hand to genitals
12. Genitals to genitals"

I’d point out they left out "Mouth to genitals," but hey, what do I know?  Maybe that’s unlucky #13?  =)

Juggler On Approaching Women In Clubs

June 17, 2005 by  
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Juggler has a short (but sweet) post up on his blog about how he meets women in clubs.  It’s a bit different from most of the other methods out there, but I think in a way it could be more effective.

Juggler writes:
When I enter a night club I am a little nervous. It’s dark. People are
dressed up. I don’t know anyone and people as a rule are standoffish.
But as I begin to talk to those first few people I make friends. I
begin to feel relaxed and then I spread out.

I
have recently realized that the average would-be pick-up artist
approaches his seduction environment quite differently. He runs around
and does sets. He may do 5-20 cold approaches per night. He has to
re-motivate himself, re-calibrate, decide on an opener and approach
5-20 times. This seems alien to me and frankly I think it is time to
consider it an old-fashioned concept.

When you go out you
should do 1 cold approach – the first one. After that the rest are warm
approaches. You bounce off of people. You establish roots. You make
friends.

One of my favorite things is to become friends with a
group of people and then catch the eye of a girl, smile, wave and
approach. I am not a strange guy approaching, I am the ambassador of my
group. You can literally meet everyone in a club this way.

This
is not advanced. What it takes is a commitment to see other people as
possible friends and not as possible enemies. It takes an ability to
establish trust and make friends quickly.

There are two very different schools of thought out there when it comes to approaching women.  One is the "numbers game" method where you cold approach as many different women as you can until you find one that’s open to you.  The other is the "quality over quantity" method that states you should only look for girls that are displaying interest and open to you approaching them.

Both have their advantages and disadvantages to them.  Personally, I’ve become a fan of the "quality over quantity" approach.  I started off with your typical cold approach method when I was first learning this stuff, and it can be quite a successful method — but it’s really hard work.  It takes a lot of energy and willpower to walk around talking to women you don’t know (plus, you run a high risk or rejection).

The "QOQ" method doesn’t really get you to meet a lot of women, but it does help you to meet the kind of women that you’ll probably continue to see on a regular basis.  So though you don’t meet as many chicks, your risk of rejection drops down considerably.

I think Juggler’s approach is a good one, and it’s not too far off from Mystery’s "group theory," which is pretty much the best way to meet women in club settings.

The Myth Of Flash Game

June 15, 2005 by  
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Dimitri, over at Real Social Impact (guess they haven’t picked a new name yet) has a good post up about something he calls "flash game."

Dimitri writes:
You go out
to the club. You just opened a girl then jumped into some routines,
gotten her laughing and giggling. You jokingly flirt with your wingman
like he’s your boyfriend. The girl touches you and you say “Hands off
the merchandise.” Everything’s going well… but then she leaves to
dance, or to see her friends, or… something, and you don’t see her
again.

That wouldn’t be too upsetting, but it’s the fourth set of the night.
That you lost like that. And your numbers aren’t panning out when you
get them.

What’s going on here?

There’s a style of game that gets guys into conversation and gets
reactions that are seemingly positive from women without getting you
real results. The problem is that it’s all flash… you’re not really
getting anywhere.

A solid interaction that leads to sex or a relationship usually doesn’t
look too impressive to onlookers. If they catch you opening her,
they’ll be impressed, but within a few minutes, you’ll look like old
friends catching up. A few minutes later and it’ll look like you’re her
boyfriend.

When Woodhaven introduced Natural Game, some thought it was called that
because it was a style used by “naturals” – Not the case. It’s called
Natural Game because it’s what women naturally respond to. It’s broken
down from successful seductions across the ages, and it works.

When you carry an interaction seductively, in a natural, cool way, you
get results. You get women. When you entertain, and be flashy, it looks
good if you’re trying to impress a guy nearby, but it doesn’t get real
results with the woman at nearly the frequency of a cool, natural
approach.

Some instructors demonstrate flash game to impress their students. It
impresses, too: If a guy has never gotten with a woman off a cold
approach, how would he know what a good interaction looks like? The
barrage of joking around, crazy routines, and flashy stuff looks like
just what the guy was missing: But it’s not.

How many approaches have you done without getting consistently good
results? Anyone who says you need 1000 approaches before you’re at all
good is full of shit: Flash game takes that long to get rolling because
it’s a poor formula. You’re trying to make bad game work okay (and
getting really bad habits in the process).

Flash game might be better than nothing. You’re going to get more
results spitting out ridiculous nonsense than you will sitting at home
eating potato chips. But if you’ve done even dozens of approaches and
you don’t feel like you’re getting further along each time, it’s time
to reanalyze your game. Flash game might look cool for your buddies,
but take it to the next level and start getting the women you want.

I agree with this this post 100%.  In fact, there’s one group of workshop people out there who rely COMPLETELY on flash game to wow their students without really being able to follow through with any of the women they interact with.  Flash game can be quite an easy pitfall to trip into when you’re first starting out.

I’d also like to expand on Dimitri’s take a bit and say that Flash Game is also about having a set of memorized routines or patterns, with no real knowledge of how to interact with others.  Whenever you’re talking to a girl and you get to a point where you don’t know what to say or where to take it, that’s Flash Game too.  You’ve only prepared yourself up to a certain point, and you burn out quick.

Though I do think routines are good to know, if you don’t know how to relate to others and interact with them on a basic social level, you’re never going to get more than that initial reaction from the women you talk to.

Women And “Reintegration”

June 15, 2005 by  
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SteviePUA has a good post up on mASF about getting a woman to become comfortable with you after doing something that might have been outside her "first impression."

SteviePUA writes:
There’s an
advanced skill which is rarely discussed. This is the need some chicks
have for REINTEGRATION of something new they have done into how they
previously saw your relationship together.

Take the example of doing something outside the box for her. She fucks
you in public. That brings a completely new dimension to how she sees
you and the relationship.

This can be disconcerting to a lot of chicks because they don’t know
how to integrate how they now see you with how they saw you before. If
you ignore what you have done then they can get weirded out because
they don’t know how to deal with it. If you become a new person in
light of what you have done together that can worry her too because she
liked you as you were before. BTW, this is one of big reasons that
girls don’t want to sleep with male friends, even if she finds you
attractive. They fear the friendship you have together will be changed
by the act of sex. What this comes down to is she feels unable to
REINTEGRATE that new experience into the previous way of relating to
you.

You need to reintegrate her new perceptions of you into how she saw
your relationship before the new experience occurred, then you have new
sexually exciting dimensions (or whatever the new thing was) as a
constituent part of your current relationship.

That’s what I was doing (and always make sure to do) after the picnic
sex and she snapped out of the trance which had resulted in me sweeping
her away sexually. Afterwards, I made her comfortable about the new
experience and integrated it into how we interacted personally. I
didn’t ignore the issue. Instead, I gave her an ‘out’ – an excuse for
what had happened. I told her we were so excited it just happened then
I linked that into a story on the theme of excitement, bringing in
elements which were familiar to our relationship. It was, in a sense
now that I think about it, an integration of anchors where the old
familiar anchors got mixed in with the new experience associations and
got soothed into acceptance. This allows for reintegration. Now I have
new anchors created for the picnic fuck which can be used in relation
to other mind fucks I want to use. Very sneaky and very effective.

I do think Stevie has a point on this.  How many times have you had a girl say to you "You’ve changed," or "Things are different/not what they used to be," or "I feel like I don’t know you anymore!" blah, blah, blah…

This concept of "reintegration" is an interesting one, because it’s about creating a role for both you and her, but it’s not only about getting your girl to accept that role, but to become COMFORTABLE in that role.  I think this is really important to understand, because too often women may play the role you want them to, but they won’t necessarily feel good about doing it.

We often think that the comfort stage ends after you’ve gotten a girl to sleep with you, but Stevie’s point is that’s not the case.  Comfort is an ONGOING thing.  Whenever you try something new or want to experiment, it’s important to be aware that you need to create comfort for your woman.

Women And “Reintegration”

June 15, 2005 by  
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SteviePUA has a good post up on mASF about getting a woman to become comfortable with you after doing something that might have been outside her "first impression."

SteviePUA writes:
There’s an
advanced skill which is rarely discussed. This is the need some chicks
have for REINTEGRATION of something new they have done into how they
previously saw your relationship together.

Take the example of doing something outside the box for her. She fucks
you in public. That brings a completely new dimension to how she sees
you and the relationship.

This can be disconcerting to a lot of chicks because they don’t know
how to integrate how they now see you with how they saw you before. If
you ignore what you have done then they can get weirded out because
they don’t know how to deal with it. If you become a new person in
light of what you have done together that can worry her too because she
liked you as you were before. BTW, this is one of big reasons that
girls don’t want to sleep with male friends, even if she finds you
attractive. They fear the friendship you have together will be changed
by the act of sex. What this comes down to is she feels unable to
REINTEGRATE that new experience into the previous way of relating to
you.

You need to reintegrate her new perceptions of you into how she saw
your relationship before the new experience occurred, then you have new
sexually exciting dimensions (or whatever the new thing was) as a
constituent part of your current relationship.

That’s what I was doing (and always make sure to do) after the picnic
sex and she snapped out of the trance which had resulted in me sweeping
her away sexually. Afterwards, I made her comfortable about the new
experience and integrated it into how we interacted personally. I
didn’t ignore the issue. Instead, I gave her an ‘out’ – an excuse for
what had happened. I told her we were so excited it just happened then
I linked that into a story on the theme of excitement, bringing in
elements which were familiar to our relationship. It was, in a sense
now that I think about it, an integration of anchors where the old
familiar anchors got mixed in with the new experience associations and
got soothed into acceptance. This allows for reintegration. Now I have
new anchors created for the picnic fuck which can be used in relation
to other mind fucks I want to use. Very sneaky and very effective.

I do think Stevie has a point on this.  How many times have you had a girl say to you "You’ve changed," or "Things are different/not what they used to be," or "I feel like I don’t know you anymore!" blah, blah, blah…

This concept of "reintegration" is an interesting one, because it’s about creating a role for both you and her, but it’s not only about getting your girl to accept that role, but to become COMFORTABLE in that role.  I think this is really important to understand, because too often women may play the role you want them to, but they won’t necessarily feel good about doing it.

We often think that the comfort stage ends after you’ve gotten a girl to sleep with you, but Stevie’s point is that’s not the case.  Comfort is an ONGOING thing.  Whenever you try something new or want to experiment, it’s important to be aware that you need to create comfort for your woman.

House Party Tips

June 9, 2005 by  
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The Distinguished Gentleman put up a comment that’s just too good to ignore.

The Distinguished Gentleman writes:
Coming from a guy who has been into PU for 3 years and has been spinning sexy, soulful house music for 7 years, Gabriel Mack is spot on right!!  Always good to invite your gay friends and hottest girlfriends – they definitely liven up the party.

With the really hot girls, make sure you surround the party with an air of exclusivity by telling them, "you can only bring one or two friends – we are trying to keep this as posh as possible – and make sure they’re cute." In my experience, they’ve all responded very well to the fact that it’s going to be "POSH". Also, if you can afford it, pick up a handful of cheap martini glasses at Target…girls love to drink anything out of martini glasses, looks sexy, classy and posh.

I know that Absolut is offering bottles of premixed Cosmopolitan’s now…an uber-popular chick drink. So, just toss the bottle and display the drinks like you made them fresh :) Also, get a bottle of coconut rum and some vodka…maybe some good beer for the cool guys you invite.   Maybe want to hit Ikea or CB2 and pick up some cool, cheap lamps, candles and other trendy chotzskys to place around the pad. These are great to have whether or not you’re having a party. It gives the place a nice classy atmosphere where beautiful women feel very comfortable and very feminine. Nice. 

Keep it goin’ fellas… 
dK

Excellent advice.  Remember, parties are the EASIEST places to meet women.  And if you’re throwing your own party — watch out!  =)

Take Back Your Power With Women

June 2, 2005 by  
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Senior Fingers (not to be confused with MR. Fingers), has this post up about how society skews our views of romance and relationships, and what we can do to fix that.

Senior Fingers writes:
After all the
analyzation of Social Distortion, the Feminization of Man and the
perceived power struggle of the sexes, I finally realized something…

Many of us are giving our power away to external influences and are left with none for ourselves.

Society

Our favorite scapegoat of all time. This is the classic bleeding heart logic at work…

"Oh its not HIS fault he murdered a small village..he was a troubled youth and is clinically insane..SOCIETY made him this way"

Or in most of the cases here…..

"Its not my fault I am intimidated by women. I was raised AFC! Society is fuct up!"

Well, its no secret we havent achieved utopia yet. But you will get no
closer to your goals by playing the Blame Game. Its one thing to
understand the root of your dysfunction and another to accept
responsibilty for it.

A brief tale to illustrate my point…

I used to run into this beggar on the subway all the time. I felt
really bad for him because he was about my age and only had one leg.
Whenever I saw him, I would give him whatever loose change I had. This
made me feel good, knowing that I had helped someone who was relatively
helpless. For months it was like this until one day everything changed.

I was walking down Houston street (one of the busiest intersections of
NYC) and saw this crazy messenger weaving in and out of traffic on his
bike and pulling some kamikazee manuevers. As a cyclist, I could
appreciate his skill and walked to the corner to get a better view of
this daredevil.

Well, much to my surprise, this guy was alot older than I though. His
grey beard indicated a man of middle age. Upon closer inspection I
couldnt believe what I saw. Yup, homeboy had ONE LEG! I had trremendous
respect for this man and will never forget him. You can guess what
happened next time I saw that bum on the subway. I didnt give him a
dime because I realized he wasnt as helpless as I had thought.

One man used his disability as an excuse to fail, another used it as a challenge to succeed. The difference is astronomical!

Nationalities and Generalizations

"Asian Chicks are the best!" "White Chicks are whГіres!" "English girls are cold!" "Stay away from black girls!!"

Yet again, more excuses.

"Its not really me, it is HER…damn these green-eyed/redheaded/etc girls!!"

It is much easier to blame our failures on a womans nationality, race
or appearance than to face the fact that we might be doing something
wrong.

Playing the victim will get you no closer to victory!

Brainwashing and the Media

"Feminists have taken over TV and film! Men are
being portrayed more and more weak and submissive! We are trapped in
the Matrix! Oh Noooo!"

What a load of BS! If you dont like what you see, then do what I did
and turn off your TV and stop whining. Personally I cant stand
television precisely because it is a parasite of my personal power. Why
spend time sitting in a pool of drool, thinking the exact same thoughts
as everyone else, when I could be writing a song or going for a run?
(Hell, I find that I enjoy chatting with you guys more than watching
these sh!tcoms anyday!)

The media is not doing a damn thing to you. It is YOU who are allowing
yourself to be influenced! Take responsibility for how you spend your
time and if you find yourself doing something that you feels is
weakening you on a subconscious level, then stop it! (duh!)

Women and Seduction

"Women have all the power! They use their sexuality as leverage in a nefarious power struggle against men!"

Wrong wrong wrong. People only have as much power over you as you give
them. Of course there are women who use their beauty to manipulate, but
what does this have to do with YOU?

Seduction is not a war against women. It really is more of a dance than
a competition. If there is any struggle involved, it is a battle for
empowerment within YOURSELF. Treating women like the enemy whose
defenses you must destroy will not get you very far!

Instead of thinking of this as a battle for power and dominance, think
of it as an opportunity to display your great personality and
confidence in order to genuinely connect with another human being.
Often times the straightforward approach is best.

Having said that, personally I have not had much luck just walking up
to girls and simply asking them out. (Unless there are some serious
signals, EC ,etc) Usually, I give them a reason (aside from my good looks) to WANT to go out with me.

This means being comfortable in my own skin, making entertaining
conversation and after displaying that I am a fun and interesting
person, I go precisely after what I want, (be it the digits or an
InstaDate)

At the end of the day this is a GIRL we are talking about here, not a trained soldier you must defeat!

Instead of giving women all the power, your attitude should be "Yeah
you are cute, but else you got going for ya?" In fact the whole purpose
of you asking her out is to screen her to see if she is worthy of YOU.
Not the other way around.

So often we fukk up by becoming starstruck and impressed by the fact
that a girl was born with good genes. Once again we give our power
away, this time to the random couplings of chromosomes!

Conclusion

Stop making excuses for yourself. Life is not fair and we all have to
play our best with the hand we are dealt. No sense in crying over a
lousy hand when you can simply make the most of it. You have much more
power than you probably give yourself credit for!

So whats it gonna be?

Are you the man who overcomes the obstacles and makes sh!t happen?
Or are you the chump who underestimates himself and makes excuses?

The most empowering fact of all is that the choice is yours, my friend.

Carpe diem.

I think the point Senior Fingers touches on here is a really powerful one.  It reminds me of that Doors lyric "People are strange, when you’re a stranger, faces look ugly, when you’re alone. Women seem wicked, when you’re unwanted, streets are lonely when you are gone."  Its tempting to resent that which you don’t have as a way of trying to make yourself feel better for not having it, so a lot of guys who feel they can’t get women end up hating women to try and justify not having one in their life.

And when they do break out of that mindset, they look at getting a woman as a task, something they have to do — an adversary they have to conquor.  I think what Senior Fingers said about seduction being more of a dance is actually quite true, because the woman you’re with has to be a part of the the process instead of just a cog in the machine.

What To Do When A Girl Just Wants To Be Friends…

June 2, 2005 by  
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Mr. Fingers, over on the Don Juan Discussions boards, has a very good post up about "Escaping The Friends Zone."

Mr. Fingers writes:
I was talking to a
friend of mine recently and she made me realize a skill that I possess
that I am totally unaware of. We were talking about past relationships
and she pointed out how many friends I have converted into lovers. Not
just any friends either…CLOSE friends! Apparently I am a FriendZone
Escape Artist!

A few weeks after this eye-opening convo, I got to see myself in action
again, but with a more trained perspective. An ex-girl of mine came to
visit me from overseas.

A little background info on her:
Before we had ever even kissed, we were best friends for years and
ended up in a very intense love affair after she confessed her true
feelings to me. It all ended a few years later cuz I was still a chump
back then…but thats a whole other thread.

Well, long story short, this time we ended up seducing each other AGAIN
even though she had a boyfriend back home. I didn’t even TRY to hook up
with this girl. In fact, I RESISTED my urges in an effort to be the
good guy. But finally, we both caved.

I started to really see the things I do subconsciously that gets my lady friends horny for me.

I hope this revelation helps some of you guys out…

Before we begin I want you to read and absorb

THE GOLDEN RULE ABOVE ALL RULES

Never, EVER, express you feelings directly. Don’t tell her that you see
her as more than a friend. It just does not work like this. The only
way you make the change is by HER confessing her feelings for you, or
you taking the initiative and kissing her like it was some crazy
accident of passion.

Now obviously, there are a few things you must communicate to her before this can happen:

(1) You don’t need her.
(2) You find her attractive but she has competition.
(3) You have high standards
(4) You are a sexual/sensual being
(5) You understand the value of sex with a connection
(6) You are physically affectionate
(7) You give conflicting messages that hint at your desire.
(8) You don’t let flings ruin friendships

(1) You don’t need her.
Dont be so readily available. Have enough going on in your life that NO
girl is a priority. Pursue your dreams, hobbies, etc so your focus is
mainly on yourself. This gives you a perfectly legitimate excuse to
flake on her ass once in a while and then "Make it up to her" by taking
her out and showing her the time of her life. It is also crucial to
have other prospects going on in order to kill any subliminal
desperation you might be projecting onto her.

(2) You find her attractive but she has competition.
Start noticing other attractive girls when you are with her and
commenting on it "Damn, she is fine!" Stare other girls down and become
distracted till your "pal" starts to get a little miffed.

Tell her not to get her panties in a twist because she is also totally hot and she knows it.

Its okay to compliment her like this when it is balanced by your
wandering eye. It also communicates that you find her attractive, but
in a very detached way.

She might try to flip it on ya and talk about other guys but dont let
it faze you. Take interest in it and find out what attracts her most
about guys. Needless to say, this should be an interesting convo!

(3) You have high standards
Talk about the things you require in a woman. This is a subtle way of
qualifying her. Tell her how you once thought that the key to happiness
was being able to approach any girl and hookup at anytime. But after
you finally overcame your fears and was able to hook up consistently,
you realized how many women just dont meet your standards.
(intelligent, funny, knows how to cook, whatever)

Let this conversation build and get her to talk about what makes a
great boyfriend. Listen to her and give her feedback as this convo
unfolds. She will probably have a lot to say.

Let that convo fizzle out and then talk about one of your past flings
where the girl seemed perfect for you in every way (really build this
up “this girl cooked, gave massages and even loved basketball! She was
the bomb!”) except she was a TERRIBLE lover. This will build curiosity
and of course she will ask why this girl was so bad in the sack. This
leads smoothly into…

(4) You are a sexual/sensual being
Talk about sex. Mention things that you like done to you but most girls
are not keen on. Talk about it like it is as casual as a convo about
the weather. Just be comfortable letting her see your sexual side,
because she IS your friend after all (if she cant handle this topic,
then this should strike you as a MAJOR red flag, this girl has issues
and you are better off moving on.)

Contrast your previous story of frustration with a tale of a girl who
knew EXACTLY how to please you and what she did that was so great. Once
you tell her a little bit about what you like, close up a little and
act somewhat apprehensive. Say “Heyyy, this is not fair! Here I am
giving you the inside scoop and getting nothing in return!” Prod her
for a few sexual details… what her favorite position is…. what gives
her the most powerful orgasm….who was her best lay and why.

If she gets suspicious or uncomfortable, tell her that if she was
really your friend sheВґd give you some killer tips and how its good
karma because one day some lucky girl will thank her.

WARNING: Talk about sex but dont get hung up on it or you will seem
like a perv. Let the convos flow naturally by guaging her reactions. As
soon as you feel the convo fizzling out, change the subject to
something else. Its much better to leave her wanting more sex talk than
to overdo it! If done right, this convo will be a recurring topic of
conversation. When it does come up again…

(5) You understand the value of sex with a connection
Talk about the difference between animal sex and spiritual love making.
How the spiritual thing is so much more intense and beautiful when you
really connect with someone. Anchor your earlier story as if it’s a
revelation and say “Hmmm , maybe that’s another reason that girl rocked
my world. We were actually good friends before anything happened.” And
so the seed is planted…muahahahahhaaa!!

(6) You are physically affectionate.
After building up the sexual tension, toss a little innocent KINO in
the mix. Comment on her jewelry and touch her. If it’s a ring hold her
hand and admire it then let her hand go with a slow slide. If its an
earring, let the backs of your fingers grace her cheek. DO NOT GROPE
HER! Think of this physical contact as subtle displays of tenderness.

Also when you hug her, make it count! I have gotten many compliments on
my hugs from all my girlfriends because I do it with all my heart. I
love to wrap my arms all the way around them so they feel all enclosed
and protected, then I squeeze them tight (not too tight there killer)
and give them a hundred little kisses on the cheek in the same spot.

Sometimes I like to tell them I am having a crap day and am in need of
a real hug…not the fake kind that people give out like loose change,
but a REAL HUG where I can proceed to bury my jawline in the crook of
her neck and get full body contact. Girls are emotional, mushy
creatures and they LOVE this stuff!

(7) You give conflicting messages that hint at your desire.
Tell her how special she is and you wish more girls were as cool as her
and you are glad that you guys are pals. Then tell her she smells
really nice and get close to her neck for a closer whiff and ask what
perfume she is wearing.

Joke around and say that she MUST NOT wear this perfume around you
anymore because it drives you crazy and just might “ruin” your
friendship. Say this in half-jest “Keep wearing that perfume and I just
might attack you someday!” If she continues to wear this dangerous
scent in the future, consider it a HUGE indicator of her interest.
(translation: she WANTS you!)

(8) You don’t let flings ruin friendships
Reassurance. At some point mention how you are still friends with most
of your ex’s because you think it’s a waste of time and energy to just
write off the people who played such powerful roles in your life. Girls
always agree with me when I say this. It also helps alleviate her fear
of jeopardizing the friendship if she acts on her desires. This is your
loophole for managing her expectations in case things don’t work out.

****************And thats pretty much it.

Above all, the real deal-sealer here is your detachment. This technique
doesn’t work on all girls obviously. But if you keep your vibe open
like this, conveying your sexuality, not caring if she feels the same
etc. one of them is bound to bite! I can honestly say my success rate
is 100%. I have never been rejected by a friend. This is because I turn
them into the pursuers and actually “resist” their advances with my
conflicting messages (It would never work between us….damn your skin is
so soft!).

Sometimes it takes a while..could be days, weeks or even months …it all
depends on her emotional state at the time. But eventually the flirting
gets more intense and I can just TELL when she is ready. She will start
touching me more often and calling me "cutie" or "baby" It all
escalates until the final Moment of Truth.

Usually we are in the middle of one of my famous hugs when I sort of
nuzzle her neck with my chin and make her giggle. Then I nuzzle her
cheek to cheek. Then I pull my head back, still hugging her and look
her in the eyes. If she returns this intense gaze without getting
weirded out, this is my signal she is ready…so I slowly close in for
our first kiss!

Once the iron is hot I strike and let me tell you, there are few things
more passionate and gratifying than that first forbidden encounter
between two friends.

Now before you rush off to try this exciting escape, keep in mind that
there are girls who will never see you as anything but their
good-natured little brother. Don’t write these chicks off! They not
only provide you with excellent social proof when you go out together,
but they have access to an intimate circle of friends who are as hot,
if not hotter than they are.

Also it is nice to have a few platonic girls you can genuinely enjoy
and yes, even cuddle with and just leave it at that. I have quite a few
friends who want to cross the line but I don’t let them because I know
for me it will be a fling but for them it will be love, no matter what
they say and I honestly value their friendship too much.

DISCLAIMER: Use these tools wisely! The
last thing you want to do is mess up a great friendship, so decide if
you really want to go the extra mile with this girl and if she can even
handle this without destroying what you have both worked to build over
time.

Always remember the Golden Rule and also the most sacred rule of them all.

Its called Game because its supposed to be fun!

I am going out now to have a fukking blast with a few friends. I hope you will join me as I sign off…

Best of Luck to all my fellow Escape Artists!

Excellent post in my opinion.  If you want to turn a friend into lover, you may want to memorize this one.  =)

Way To Captivating And Seductive Talking

May 31, 2005 by  
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The always awesome Nightblue has a fantastic post up about how to create a "sexual state" with your language.

Nightblue writes:
Funny that I vaguely remember posting about captivating verbal game.
I got it pretty solid since the time, basing on those principles with mixed with new natural techs.

While on the subject, I realized something yesterday while talking with
the mighty Brazilian. I actually was a natural since I was into MLTRs with girls 19 to 24 when I was sixteen.

Thats probably also the reason of how I can taste useful material when
I see it. Like Id see a guy when there arent women around, and tell
that he gets laid massively. Which leads to the point; Captivating and
seductive talking and behaving.

Whats lacking at most poets to be PUAs is sexual state.

For being a good PUA
in this day and age, the main secret ingredients are to make a short
brief; take the great Svengali’s "chasers are bound to chase forever"
and mix it with "captivating seductive talking" in which I’ll get into,
and finally pour some "having and wanting sex is our main male role and
right".

Things like C&F and playfulness among other things are the add on’s.   

Note that this is a different thing than my last post "Gamestyle for
quick lays". This post is dedicated for becoming a complete PUA from the inside.
Firstly I should mention that if you dont agree with not chasing, put
that aside and try this all out. You’ll game will definitely improve.

The captivating and seductive talking will upgrade your personality to
a whole new level. You’ll be a out of ordinary dream guy. Civilized,
charming charismatic and seductive.
I dont recommend heavy C&F with this, since that only works for one type of women.

Seductive and captivating talking is the most ancient and effective way
of getting women, since you directly aim at their emotions. For this
you shouldnt use ordinary much used words. But have original words and
describings.
This is for the rapport stage which is the MOST important part if your
not looking for a quick lay. I do both styles depending on my mood.

To give an example of how such an interaction goes,
In the beginning of the interaction you convey humor and playfulness
C&F and stuff if you want. But youre not just all about that. You
keep the playfulness vibe in it, but you show more of yourself. Youre
talking about ordinary things in an out of ordinary way. Lets say about
womens emotions.

"You know naive men keep wondering in through their lives what women
want, and start to think that they want a lot. While women just await
their dreamguy, a guy with who they feel their emotions charging by
just being with him. And thats actually all they want."

Or after youve known eachother and some chemistry is going on sending
mixed messages like active disinterest mixed with seductive talking;

"You know your skin reminds me of watching the sun spark on the sea in
a little greek island Mykonos. We’d go there when we were kids and
watch the sea instead of playing like we should."
Then later pulling back teasing or something and making her work to get you to talk like this again.

When you show this of yourself youre more than an ordinary guy. Youre
conveying deepness and reaching her emotions. That you have a high
value personality. This is what canned material cant give you.

Im not telling you to be some kind of don Juan 24/7. But showing this is very powerful.
I wouldnt advise to use this if you just want to sleep with her. Since
this will get the girl to feel strong emotions for you like love. If
you just want to get laid you should read "Gamestyle for quick lays"
somewhere below in advanced.
This is more for mLTRs.

A complete PU is not all about C&F and being sexual. You have to create a complete image in her mind of yourself. 

An image of a fun guy, who also has a personality. Confident,
Intelligent and can talk in a way that takes him into a woman in any
way possible. Become complete.

Always remember:  Your language is your weapon.  It’s the best thing you have going for you when it comes to getting a woman.  Even good looking guys, if they don’t have much to say (or say the wrong things), they’re going to miss out on the women they want.  Read this post a couple times, I think it’s a good one!

Dealing With Other Guys In Clubs

May 31, 2005 by  
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Dimitri, the star of Rapid Social Impact, has a really good post up about how to deal with other guys in the club.

Dimitri writes:
Man, I just
saw a post in General that broke my heart. This cat, seems a cool guy,
wrote asking about what do after he said something friendly to a guy he
knew (saying he’d attend the guy’s band practice, because it’d be
cool), then the guy makes fun of him, calling him his groupie and stuff.

Then, a lot of "AMOG!!!!"
responses come in, before Woodhaven politely presents a better point of
view: Why care? Shrug it off, laugh if it was legitimately funny.

The main thing you need to do to successfully deal with other guys is
*be cool*. If you’re cool, you won’t get a lot of problems. Especially
in social situations, I never get people messing with me at all:
Because why would they? I’m cool, and I’ve got a rock-solid image. I
look above petty shit.

But okay, I hit the bars, and you get these clowns hyped up with liquid confidence in your space. What do you do?

My #1 MOST SECRET ULTIMATE TECHNIQUE:

******LOOK AT THEM LIKE THEY’RE RETARDED*****

I’m serious. This I got, by and large, from girls. When a guy says
something dumb, they’ll give him a look like he’s retarded, then look
at their friends, or away, or somewhere else.

It’s the natural way. If someone’s doing something genuinely retarded,
look at them like they’re retarded. If a guy rolls up to me and says,
"Hey dude, nice shirt, I had that one in high school", I’m going to
look at him like he’s a joker, then look at my girl like he’s a joker,
then look away from the guy – And it’s game over.

But let’s say he’s actually kind of funny. I give him the "retarded
look", and he comes back with the single, only verbal response that’ll
work: He says, "Oooh, you’re giving me the look. Look at this guy, he’s
giving me the look!"

Then I’ll look at him and smile and laugh, because it’d genuinely be
funny (in that context). I’d pat him on the arm and say, "You’re
alright, man." And then he’d see I truly am bulletproof, and we’d be
cool.

Guys can’t mess with me. I can’t lose duels… because I’m *above* them.

A word from Woodhaven on the subject:

"The common pattern is:
PUA sees other guy ->  PUA feels threatened ->  PUA cooks up a sarcastic line -> PUA lowers whatever status he had to match the status of the other guy as he engages in ‘AMOG battle’.

New pattern is:
PUA sees other guy -> PUA treats other guy as friend, because of confidence in own status -> PUA busts on other guy as if he is an old friend -or- PUA ignores other guy and contiues gaming the girl.

Don’t get me wrong, I’ve engaged in these battles before, but no matter
who wins, you still run the risk of looking look dumb for *trying* to
win them as if you care.

It’s an internal state thing – have fun with that type of thing and
release the need to win the battle. If a guy throws a verbal jab at
you, laugh it off and continue gaming the girl."

Thank you for sharing the wisdom with us, WH. I’ll add a last note:
You’re done for when you *feel threatened*. Laugh the guy off and
you’re golden.

I really agree with this post.  I think that people who are insecure of their social status feel "threatened" by another guy.  I’ve been witness to some massive AMOG battles in the past, and they’re not always a pretty site.  I think you come off better if you take a guy trying to out-alpha you as "Oh, he wants to play."  That doesn’t mean that if you are *genuinely* being mocked, you shouldn’t stand up for yourself — after all, there’s a time to play it cool and a time to get your hands dirty — but for the most part, something like this is the wya to go.

Dimitri sure knows his stuff.

Fast Make-Out Game

May 31, 2005 by  
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Intime has a great post up on mASF about how to make-out with a chick fast.

Intime writes:
First off,
i assume you are just into this for the practice(like me) or one night
stands. This isn’t something you do to start off a healthy
relationship. Unless maybe a FB relationship :)

This post also assumes you can get attraction right off the bat.

Don’t have outcome dependence when you are attempting this. Don’t
actually go time yourself and go" Aaah 10 min mark. Must make out now".
If you know she won’t be receptive to it, just run your regular game
and go from there. You won’t be able to this with everyone.

So now we assume you have her isolated or she is a lone wolf.

Use the most high impact stuff you have right off because you are going to be cycling through the stages fast.
Proximity and kino
is key. Everytime she cracks up, you must be close enough for her to
touch you first. If she keeps on manhandling you when she giggles,
that’s great. If she doesn’t , no problem. The best way to know if she
will be receptive to escalation i feel are probably kino
pings(concept possibly by Mystery). if you don’t know how to calibrate
through her other actions and expressions. You squeeze her hand, she
squeezes back, you touch her, she touches back. You tickle her, she
falls into your arms. That kind of stuff.

You transition to hand holding, being extremely close by doing a kino based game/test. Most games are verbal based games. You ask she, answers. Make it kino
based by holding her close as if that is part of what it is about .
Don’t use games to fluff, use them to intrigue her/ tease her about her
sexuality/ show your sexuality/ be close to her

you are such a blueberry fields girl!  HB: what’s that? Ok i’ll show you.
I can’t trust you guys, im giving you the trust test.
Have you ever been quintupled/cubed? No? Ok come here.
Has anyone told you you have solusandra eyes? Lets find out if you are a solusandra *take her hands*

An excuse to be close and hold her close are games/ tests/
visualizations. Basically every single (tell her about herself) game,
you do it holding her hands. Remember this. Don’t bother doing the
games standing at a distance projecting over 1 metre trying to be
"disinterested" .
Ok from this moment on you will be in a sexual state and your voice
will be the sexiest it knows how to be. ( For some you, thats a problem :)
Whenever you are running a game, you and her are now in a private
world. Everything is so secretive that you have to intepret her answers
by talking close to her ear.

Being sexual- EC, voice tone/rythm, proximity, Kino. From now on your sexual state is on and does not turn off.

The
trust test really is an attraction/trust test.(Look for the new trust
test) I used to think it was a dumb game. But i do actually use it as
an actual trust test now. If she passes everything, it is definitely on
for more of your kino escalation. Not to mention there are also parts of the trusts test that you can tease her a bit on.

Now through the whole game/test you will be projecting your sexuality,
and for every minute after that. Consider this your transition into
more of an emotional and sexual connection.

I reccomend a minute or two of basic connection, they won’t have time
think or seek rapport with you most of the time. So you have to goad
her into making statements that you agree on and build some basic
rapport/comfort. Time distortion/Imagined shared experiences " Ya i
remember when we were kids it would have been great to…" " Yes
walking by byron beach during the sunset blah blah" (Basically this
will be the romantic part of your relationship (All of one minute:-))

You now have to qualify her or SOI
her. I don’t mean go " Swiss? oh my goodness I can’t even talk to you
anymore…..no no i have to go now". YOU DON’T HAVE TIME FOR ALL THAT.

You SOI
her by whispering or saying something sweetly and softly while holding
her close like " You know what? You are definitely the cutest girl
around here" " I really notice now that you are really beautiful" " You
are the kind of person of person that has a beautiful heart". ALL THIS
IS DONE TOTALLY GENUINE.

If all has gone well you will get a really sweet giggle. And a doggy
dinner bowl look ( People here use this term to mean so many
expressions, and i have one in mind too. Hope it coincides with yours.)

NOW HERE COMES THE MOMENT ( haha no big deal…don’t freak out)

Now you either do the spin kiss move (search for spin kiss) smoothly
and end in a make out. Or you do DYD’s kiss test and end in makeout. Or
Style’s evolution phase shift and end in a makeout. Or anything
else….u guys do know how to make out don’t you?
My personal preference is the spin kiss move, she almost knows whats coming.

Actually do whatever it is you know how to do and just end in a makeout.

Total time less than 10 min…sometimes even less than 5 and now you
have to find new challenge in life ( like taking her on a half hour
trip to your home and dealing with LMR), or on to the next SI swimsuit
model :) or UG (whichever you prefer.)

Although ive typed up quite a bit, which is just for explanation.
Running through this will take you no more than 5- 10 min. So this is
my fast makeout game and i believe anyone else could probably get it to
work.

So if you really do get your first 5 min makeout through the structure here. Well, guess im proud that i could be of help.

5 minute make out.  Can’t beat that can you?  =)

Learn Sexual Aggression

May 25, 2005 by  
Filed under Tips & Tricks

Allesandro has an interesting post up on mASF…

Allesandro writes:
LEARN HOW TO FUCKING DESIRE A WOMAN LIKE A BEAST.

Don’t hold anything back. Don’t go slow and timid. Go at her at full force for and at full speed and take her. Lift her, tear her bra, bite her all over. Spill liquor on her chest .. run AMOCK. Really show her you want her.

You can’t break that rope-walking dating mating crap until you do that.  If you encourage a girl to go wild, dance aggressively, ride your crotch, throw her legs around, scream, bite you back, call you MOTHERFUCKER, etc. you will empower her to have a good fuck. No matter how cool and sexy you’re, in the back of her head she is holding something back and trying not to intimidate you. Watch the dance floor, you see most guys are actually FOLLOWING the woman’s foot steps, they’re acting slow. Most couples go for the slow-dance songs. Most guys still like holding hands and gazing into each others eyes. People avoid fast music and they don’t want to race their little hearts, they don’t wanna break a sweat, they wanna go out in their pressed shirts, get numbers and come home with their shirts still pressed. Young people in my town CARRY UMBRELLAS; Why the fuck are they afraid of getting wet? If you’re out getting laid, carry your essentials in plastic and expect to get wet, be it rain, liquor or body fluids.

Maybe he wrote this with a little more "vigor" than I would, but I do think there is something to displaying sexual aggression with a woman.

I think that too often, guys get caught up in a game of trying to "trick" a woman into liking them or sleeping with them, where we try to be too subtle or manipulative in our approach.  When men are blatently sexual and are unafraid to let a woman see that and see that they want to sleep with them, I do think women respond in a different way.

Some women may not be into it, but you’re giving clear signs to the ones that are that you WANT them and you’re not afraid to show it.  I think that can be a powerful thing, especially early on in a sarge.

Complete Guide To Starting Pick-Up

May 4, 2005 by  
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Everyone’s favorite swashbuckling pick-up artist, Dimitri of Rapid Social Impact fame, has a great post up for beginners on how to start getting women.

Dimitri writes:
I’m going to break down the fundamentals of starting the art of pickup.
These skills are critical and fundamental, regardless of what style or
camp you subscribe to.

That said, these aren’t rules. Everything I write is flexible and variable, as it should be.

Now, my first three "non-rules" are:

1) Like yourself.
2) Be confident.
3) Have fun.

Those are my first three. The criticals. The essentials. What you need to be doing for *anything* else to work.

With those three, and just those three, you can do anything. However,
while those first three are critical for just about all parts of a good
life, the next two are also very useful.

4) Stay open-minded.
5) Learn.

That’s it. If you can manage those five things, you’ll be on your way.
If, after a solid base in those five things, you go out and start
actively socializing, you’ll be able to achieve a master’s proficiency
in this art.

Now, let me break them down a little, and throw in a some advanced
discussion. If any of this starts to confuse you in some way, because
you’re new to this, or you feel you’re reading too much, or whatever-
stop. Take a break, skip a paragraph, whatever. This is a reference,
not a novel.

1) Like yourself: The root cause of everything good that can ever happen.

You need to like yourself as a person. You need to accept every part of
yourself, even the parts you don’t like (which doesn’t mean don’t try
to change for the better).

For all you analytical folk: There is not a single advantage to disliking yourself. Consider that.

For all you emotional folk: Your whole life will be better and you will feel stronger and more alive if you like yourself.

What do I mean by "like yourself"? It’s so simple, but so difficult.
Here’s some random points I’m just going to throw out. It’s not
all-encompassing, but it’s an idea.

Alright, I’m an American. Here in the U.S., we’re given a double
standard from birth. Basics of self-esteem are taught throughout school
and by parents, but at the same time, people are often put down.
Parents, teachers, and authorities often turn a blind eye to bullying,
reasoning it off as "kid stuff". The media constantly draws and redraws
a fake "norm" that people should strive to achieve, and are ostracized
if they deviate from it. In countries based around consumption, the
idea of non-satiation rules supreme, and people are told to be never
satisfied. You’ll be happier with a faster car, a better razor, the
most fashionable suit, the new soda that’s got a great taste while
being very low in carbs…

People are told they can’t be happy without stuff. They’re constantly
taught to seek validation, and insecurities are played upon on a daily
basis. There’s a happy feel-good message of "Everyone is a special and
unique snowflake" that’s said in elementary school, which is promptly
mocked and satirized.

In short, people are given a billion reasons not to like themself, and
told not to decide for themselves. At the same time, most people THINK
they like themself when asked, and often can’t realize that they, in
fact, don’t.

I used to say **** like, "Damn, I ****ed up again. I hate myself." in
my head. I didn’t even realize I was doing it for so long, but when I
caught on, it became sickening. I’d say it *so* much without even
recognizing it. I really did believe it.

My breakthrough came when I realized there were many, many good things about myself. I genuinely came to like myself.

Now, how to do that? I can’t say, exactly. But now you’re aware of some
of what’s going on. There is no reason not to like yourself… you’re
the only you you’ve got. Strive for improvement, but like and accept
yourself. It precedes and precludes almost all good things in life,
including good relationships with other people and good sex with
beautiful women. It’s critical.

2) Be confident: The world is yours for the taking.

Confidence. Arguably the single most important interpersonal skill. If
you act confidently, everything from business to family to
relationships to (yes) pickup will go more smoothly.

What is confidence for me? It’s knowing that I have lots of ability and
infinite potential. I know I’ve got skills that I’ve honed to a precise
degree and I can use them decisively. But more importantly, I know that
anything I don’t know or can’t do… I could. With practice, with
teaching.

I think people trying to explain confidence is where a lot of the
rhetoric here came from. Most of it’s right, but it’s convoluted. I
can’t tell you exactly what confidence will be to you, but you’ll know
it.

For me, it’s about fighting my fears when they come up, and defeating
them. It’s about using my abilities as well as I can, but after I’m
trying my best, I move decisively. I know I’ll do the best job
possible, so why doubt myself?

I act quickly, decisively after I’ve picked the best course. This is
because I know I have ability and infinite potential. There is no
failure: There is only success and learning.

3) Have fun: If you’re not having fun doing something…

This is key to true success in anything. To truly be good at picking up
women, you’ve got to have fun doing the whole process. If you want to
do work in nightclubs, you’ve got to have fun going out to nightclubs.
If you want to do bars, you’ve got to enjoy bars.

You’ve got to have fun socializing. From approach to close, you’ve got
enjoy what you’re doing and spending time with women and people. If you
go out with a wingman, you’ve got to like him and like spending time
with him.

It doesn’t matter how or what’s fun about what you’re doing. It could
be that you like the music of where you’re at, or you like
self-improvement, or that you like going out with your friends that
came with you, or you like karaoke at the place you’re at… it doesn’t
matter.

Just have fun. Your results will be infinitely better if you’re having
fun, and no matter what happens, you’ll have had some fun.

***So, those are my "primary three". I think that those three skills
are pretty much necessary for a truly happy life. Anyone can improve in
those three areas, and improvement in any of those three areas will
translate to improvements *EVERYWHERE* else in your life.

So remember: Like yourself, be confident, and have fun.

4) Stay open-minded: Consider and reconsider *everything*.

This is as much a life skill as a pickup skill.

Open-mindedness is considering and reconsidering anything and
everything. Aside from the fact that your time is valuable, you should
always be willing to consider a new point of view or rethink an old
one. Even fundamental beliefs of yours may change from time to time,
and even if you can’t accept some things at this time, don’t be afraid
to rethink them later.

Part of open-mindedness, for me, is tolerance. I’m not going to go on a
feel-good, politically correct trip right now, because I’ve got some
unresolved views on tolerance myself. On the whole, though, I like to
live and a promote a live-and-let-live philosophy. Be kind whenever
possible, to anyone, regardless of who they are and what they do. Note
that I said "whenever possible", which doesn’t mean get walked on.
Also, kindness is not subservience or supplication, and don’t get them
confused. Be willing to rethink what kindness really is from time to
time: It’s possible that some things the media raises you to think are
good and kind acts, like buying a woman dinner, is actually unrelated
to true kindness and tolerance.

5) Learn: Learn about anything and everything. Why not?

When I say learn, there’s two things I’m driving at.

I like learning about anything and everything, and I think it’s
invaluable to me. I know about all sorts of little interesting things,
and my life is better for it. I can relate to many, many different
people on different levels, and can talk to them about it. I can think
in different ways about different things, and come up with interesting
conclusions.

So, learn things in general, because it’s useful to you, and will benefit you in pickup (and other aspects of your life, again).

Secondly, learn as you do. Strive to be better and improve. When you do
not achieve what you set out to achieve, learn from it. You can repair
mistakes you’ve been making with practice and guidance. Try to think of
creative solutions, and ask for help when appropriate.

Seek out sources that can aid you. For pickup, that’s our community.
Most of the guys in the community, in my experience, are great guys.
Find someone in your area and sit down for coffee with them, or do a
little pickup. Hang out, eat pizza, shoot pool. Learn from each other.

Correct mistakes and improve.

***Those are my five first things. At any time, if you go back and pick
one of those and work actively on improving it, you will improve your
life and, consequently, your ability to pick up members of the opposite
sex. If you feel boxed in or overloaded with too much material, you can
work on one of these five. These alone can improve your life, and base
proficiency are required in all five of these skills to truly succeed
in this endeavor… and to be happy in all of your life.

Anyone can grasp these concepts. Anyone can apply them successfully.
Work on them and your life will improve, as will results in skill-based
endeavors.

Best of luck to all of you, my comrades and brethren. Be well.

Good stuff.  I would add to this:  Make a real commitment to succeeding, and believe you can do it! 

A lot of guys don’t prepare themselves for success and don’t believe it can be possible.  But it can!  You just need to make a commitment to yourself to succeed and achieve your goals, and not be daunted by obstacles or setbacks.

6 Tips On Escaping The “Let’s Just Be Friends” Zone

May 4, 2005 by  
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Again, SuperGigaloDJ chimes in with a few tips on how to turn that female "friend" (we all know they don’t exist, right?) into a lover.

SuperGigaloDJ writes:
Tip #1. Pick up girls in front of her.

This one should be used only occasionally or else you will seem like a dyck. Doing this may spark a hint of jealousy.

Tip #2. Talk about other girls to her.

No I don’t mean COMPLAIN. Talk about what a great time you had on a
date with a girl you met two weeks ago. You could even tell you about
the sexual things you guys did. It’s best to talk about this stuff when
it’s late at night when she’s horny. Don’t talk too much about this in
the beginning.

Tip #3. KINO!

Ahh the great KINO. Light KINO in the beginning. Turn it up a couple
knotches as time goes on. Getting out of the friend zone may take some
time.

Tip #4. Ask personal questions.

Ask open-ended personal questions. Ask questions about her favorite
memories, what she likes, etc. Get to know her more. As time goes on
integrate sexual questions. What she likes and such.

Tip #5. Mystery.

Don’t always be available. Don’t hang out with her too long in a day.
Start hanging out with her less but keep hanging out with her. Don’t
change too much at once.

TIP #6. (The make or break tip)

After weeks of using Tips 1-5 have her maybe at your house or you can
be at hers. Plan a late-night movie. KINO good throughout the night. As
the movie is playing talk to her. Get her in the mood by asking her
more questions about sex. Look deep into her eyes. Now this is most
important: GRAB YOUR B@LLS AND KISS HER! You should know what to do
from there.

These tips are all well and good (I think a few are a bit too simplistic).  But the best advice I ever saw on the "Friends To Lovers" dilema was from Swinggcat.  He’s got a fantastic article up on SeductionLair.com that takes you step-by-step through the process of making a girl "friend" your latest conquest.  Check it out if you’re a member of the site, it’s well worth the read.

6 Tips On Escaping The “Let’s Just Be Friends” Zone

May 4, 2005 by  
Filed under Tips & Tricks

Again, SuperGigaloDJ chimes in with a few tips on how to turn that female "friend" (we all know they don’t exist, right?) into a lover.

SuperGigaloDJ writes:
Tip #1. Pick up girls in front of her.

This one should be used only occasionally or else you will seem like a dyck. Doing this may spark a hint of jealousy.

Tip #2. Talk about other girls to her.

No I don’t mean COMPLAIN. Talk about what a great time you had on a
date with a girl you met two weeks ago. You could even tell you about
the sexual things you guys did. It’s best to talk about this stuff when
it’s late at night when she’s horny. Don’t talk too much about this in
the beginning.

Tip #3. KINO!

Ahh the great KINO. Light KINO in the beginning. Turn it up a couple
knotches as time goes on. Getting out of the friend zone may take some
time.

Tip #4. Ask personal questions.

Ask open-ended personal questions. Ask questions about her favorite
memories, what she likes, etc. Get to know her more. As time goes on
integrate sexual questions. What she likes and such.

Tip #5. Mystery.

Don’t always be available. Don’t hang out with her too long in a day.
Start hanging out with her less but keep hanging out with her. Don’t
change too much at once.

TIP #6. (The make or break tip)

After weeks of using Tips 1-5 have her maybe at your house or you can
be at hers. Plan a late-night movie. KINO good throughout the night. As
the movie is playing talk to her. Get her in the mood by asking her
more questions about sex. Look deep into her eyes. Now this is most
important: GRAB YOUR B@LLS AND KISS HER! You should know what to do
from there.

These tips are all well and good (I think a few are a bit too simplistic).  But the best advice I ever saw on the "Friends To Lovers" dilema was from Swinggcat.  He’s got a fantastic article up on SeductionLair.com that takes you step-by-step through the process of making a girl "friend" your latest conquest.  Check it out if you’re a member of the site, it’s well worth the read.

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