6 Tips On Escaping The “Let’s Just Be Friends” Zone

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Again, SuperGigaloDJ chimes in with a few tips on how to turn that female "friend" (we all know they don’t exist, right?) into a lover.

SuperGigaloDJ writes:
Tip #1. Pick up girls in front of her.

This one should be used only occasionally or else you will seem like a dyck. Doing this may spark a hint of jealousy.

Tip #2. Talk about other girls to her.

No I don’t mean COMPLAIN. Talk about what a great time you had on a
date with a girl you met two weeks ago. You could even tell you about
the sexual things you guys did. It’s best to talk about this stuff when
it’s late at night when she’s horny. Don’t talk too much about this in
the beginning.

Tip #3. KINO!

Ahh the great KINO. Light KINO in the beginning. Turn it up a couple
knotches as time goes on. Getting out of the friend zone may take some
time.

Tip #4. Ask personal questions.

Ask open-ended personal questions. Ask questions about her favorite
memories, what she likes, etc. Get to know her more. As time goes on
integrate sexual questions. What she likes and such.

Tip #5. Mystery.

Don’t always be available. Don’t hang out with her too long in a day.
Start hanging out with her less but keep hanging out with her. Don’t
change too much at once.

TIP #6. (The make or break tip)

After weeks of using Tips 1-5 have her maybe at your house or you can
be at hers. Plan a late-night movie. KINO good throughout the night. As
the movie is playing talk to her. Get her in the mood by asking her
more questions about sex. Look deep into her eyes. Now this is most
important: GRAB YOUR B@LLS AND KISS HER! You should know what to do
from there.

These tips are all well and good (I think a few are a bit too simplistic).  But the best advice I ever saw on the "Friends To Lovers" dilema was from Swinggcat.  He’s got a fantastic article up on SeductionLair.com that takes you step-by-step through the process of making a girl "friend" your latest conquest.  Check it out if you’re a member of the site, it’s well worth the read.

6 Tips On Escaping The “Let’s Just Be Friends” Zone

Again, SuperGigaloDJ chimes in with a few tips on how to turn that female "friend" (we all know they don’t exist, right?) into a lover.

SuperGigaloDJ writes:
Tip #1. Pick up girls in front of her.

This one should be used only occasionally or else you will seem like a dyck. Doing this may spark a hint of jealousy.

Tip #2. Talk about other girls to her.

No I don’t mean COMPLAIN. Talk about what a great time you had on a
date with a girl you met two weeks ago. You could even tell you about
the sexual things you guys did. It’s best to talk about this stuff when
it’s late at night when she’s horny. Don’t talk too much about this in
the beginning.

Tip #3. KINO!

Ahh the great KINO. Light KINO in the beginning. Turn it up a couple
knotches as time goes on. Getting out of the friend zone may take some
time.

Tip #4. Ask personal questions.

Ask open-ended personal questions. Ask questions about her favorite
memories, what she likes, etc. Get to know her more. As time goes on
integrate sexual questions. What she likes and such.

Tip #5. Mystery.

Don’t always be available. Don’t hang out with her too long in a day.
Start hanging out with her less but keep hanging out with her. Don’t
change too much at once.

TIP #6. (The make or break tip)

After weeks of using Tips 1-5 have her maybe at your house or you can
be at hers. Plan a late-night movie. KINO good throughout the night. As
the movie is playing talk to her. Get her in the mood by asking her
more questions about sex. Look deep into her eyes. Now this is most
important: GRAB YOUR B@LLS AND KISS HER! You should know what to do
from there.

These tips are all well and good (I think a few are a bit too simplistic).  But the best advice I ever saw on the "Friends To Lovers" dilema was from Swinggcat.  He’s got a fantastic article up on SeductionLair.com that takes you step-by-step through the process of making a girl "friend" your latest conquest.  Check it out if you’re a member of the site, it’s well worth the read.

25 Neg Hits

We all know Mystery came up with the idea of "neg hits," where you use a subversive insult to socially lower a girl’s value to make it easier to pick her up.  SuperGigaloDJ over on the Don Juan boards just posted a list of 25 of them that I think are worth checking out:

SuperGigaloDJ writes:
1.
Jason: Are those nails real?
HB9: No
Jason: Oh. Well at least they look nice.

2.
Jason: You’re pretty dark is that tan real?
HB9: No I went tanning.
Jason: Oh. Well at least it looks real.

3.
HB9: Do you like my new haircut?
Jason: Yeah I like it little messy on top. (If it’s straight)

4.
HB9: Do you like my new haircut?
Jason: Yeah I like the left site. (If her hair is different no each side)

5.
HB9: Hey let’s go get some ice cream!
Jason: Hell yeah let’s do it. I like a girl who’s not afraid to gain some pounds.

6.
Jason: Cool shoes. My mom has a pair just like that.

7.
Jason: Mm that perfume smells good. I think my mom has that same one.

8.
HB9: Do you like my new purse?
Jason: Yeah that one’s really popular. A lot of girls at my school have that one.

9.
Jason: Hey there is this girl in my class who has that same shirt!

10.
HB9: Hey check out my new watch.
Jason: Oh yeah I really like that one. My cousin has the same one!

11.
Jason: What did ya buy?
HB9: I bought a new shirt.
Jason: Cool lemme see it.
HB9: Here.
Jason: Oh nice. My moms got one just like it.

12.
Jason: That’s really cute how your nose wiggles when you talk.

13.
Jason: Is that your real hair color?
HB9: No it’s dyed.
Jason: Oh. Well at least it looks good.

14.
Jason: I like your make-up job.

15.
Jason: I like the color of your eyes.
HB9: Hehe thanks. They’re contacts.
Jason: Oh. Well they look nice.

16:
Jason: Hey cool cell phone. This girl in my class has the same one.

17:
HB9: Do you think I’m fat?
Jason: No but I like it when I can pinch a little here. (And then pinch her stomach)

18:
Jason: Hey weren’t you wearing the same outfit the other day?

19:
Jason: You have something in your teeth.

20:
Jason: Hey nice outfit! I like that better than the one you wore last time.

21:
Jason: How old are you?
HB9: I’m __
Jason: Oh. You look older.

22.
Jason: Nice jeans.
HB9: Thanks
Jason: They make your ass look small. (I would suggest this only after a few dates!)
HB9: Oh.. Thanks.

23.
Jason: Nice breasts are they real?
HB9: No
Jason: Oh.. At least they look real. (At the strip club)

24.
Jason: You have big feet for a girl but those shoes look good on you.
HB9: Oh… Thanks.

25.
Jason: Hey I like this CD.
HB9: Oh thanks.
Jason: Yeah my grandma has this same one.

Of course, these are all oldies, but goodies.  Neg hits, when used right, can be quite powerful (especially with beautiful women).  When used wrong, though, they can really backfire on ya!  Just remember, with most girls you’ll never want to use more than one neg hit!  With REALLY hot girls, maybe up to three, but any more than that and you could blow her out.  Use them wisely!

How To Be A SEX GOD

I’m usually too humble to say something like this, but it has to be done…

I’ve REALLY outdone myself this time.

Every month I go to great lengths to deliver amazing premium interviews to the members of SeductionLair.com, and though the interviews are usually good, they’re rarely ever THIS good.

Part of learning the ins-and-outs of dating and seduction is learning ALL aspects of the game.  That means knowing how to pick a woman up, how to attract her, how to seduce her, and perhaps most importantly –

HOW TO PLEASE HER IN THE BEDROOM!

Seriously, the late-game tactics of pleasing a woman in bed are more important than you might realize.

When you see a woman you’re attracted to, do you feel hesitant about meeting her?  What about feeling nervous while you talk to her, like you’re not sure where it’s going to go?  And what if you do everything right and then blow it at the last minute because you made one little mistake?

Well guess what:  Guys who are confident in the bedroom rarely, if ever, experience that!

If you know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you can blow any woman’s mind in bed, then all that fear and nervousness of "where is this going?" and "what should I do next" just melts away…

Trust me, I know. 

That’s why I’ve started off the summer with a focus on sexual mastery, so things can be just as hot on the inside as they are on the outside!

Last month, I interviewed an EXPERT in sex techniques.  This month, I interview a MASTER.

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But in addition to being able to please any woman he desires, my interview subject has also created something which can only be described as…

PURE EVIL.

Not "evil" in the bad sense.  But evil in the sense that he can have very FEW male friends because they become much too jealous when he uses this amazing technique around them.

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And he’s not even GOOD LOOKING!!!!

When I first met this guy, I didn’t believe a single word he told me about the rewards he’s able to reap from being a master in the bedroom, until I met a girl who was TAKING OUT A LOAN to buy him a new car because she wanted so desperately to marry him!

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Louis & Copeland vs… David Deangelo???

Now this is a wierd development.  In their latest newsletter, titled "Now They’re Threatening Us," authors of the book How To Succeed With Women Ron Louis and David Copeland reveal that there’s some drama going on between them and another "well known" guru.

Hi!

We want to make a confession to you:

Our competitors are not happy about our seminar. And some of them are getting personal.

One competitor actually wrote to us and threatened us after our recent newsletter exposed the many downsides of trying to be "Cocky and Funny" and manipulate women.

He told us be had better "watch out," and to not blow the whistle on the scams that many newly-minted "dating gurus" use to take money out of shy men’s pockets. 

But that’s what makes us different. We don’t teach elaborate techniques that only work if you have natural charisma or could be a talented hypnotist.

We don’t expect you to spend every waking moment of your life studying "techniques" and "patterns" so you can finally get what you want with women.

Here’s what we do — We teach "dirt simple" success with women — the kind of success that works for every guy.

It’s a big claim, but we can back it up.  We’ve been coaching men in dating for 10 years. That means we’ve been helping men since long before the internet made it easy for any guy to call himself a dating guru, and to take men’s money.

Owch.  Since David DeAngelo is the only guy who lays legitimate claim to the "cocky funny" moniker, I’m assuming that it was him who contacted Ron & Dave.  I’m not really sure he told them not to "blow the whistle on the scams that many newly-minted "dating gurus" use to take money out of shy men’s pockets."  But it wouldn’t surprize me if he did contact them about bashing his techniques in their previous newsletter.

I’ll see if I can get more on this soon.

Men And High Status

Here’s an interesting article about men and our need to achieve high status in society.

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How To Get Laid Fast

Aside from the obvious answer of "Get A Hooker!", the once lost but now found Nightblue chimes in with some game tactics that will get you laid quick.

Nightblue writes:
Im going to get straight to the point assuming there is no need to write much more than can be remembered anyway.

Since the point is a gamestyle for quick lays, you should be behaving like a guy who is suitable for it.

A lot of guys actually screw up a good lay potential by "gaming" while
they should be fucking. Im not talking about the 7 hour thing. Thats a
different style. If you get too much into rapport
the girl will rethink sleeping with you, since the interaction wont be
a "were going to fuck later" type of interaction. That’ll be the vibe.

Which girl will fuck a guy one hour after she told him her childhood camp or dead bunny. It wont happen.

Thats more for types that you want to keep around, you have the rapport
attraction and the sex comes later. I personally dont want to keep
around every girl I have sex with as in any type of relationship.

OTOH, for quick lays, the message you should be conveying is, "I live
by the day and enjoy every moment" type of stuff. Which obviously
includes "I fuck who I want to fuck at any given time, I only need to
want to".

When you get her into your frame, which shouldnt be a problem if you
know about the strong reality concept, you’ll be laying her pretty
soon.

Some things that convey this are:

-Acting extreme, as in not caring what others think

Extreme is pretty good actually. Not weird extreme. As in extreme
confidence. Shy/dumb girls will look up to you and perceive you as
higher value since they cant behave like that.

Social/extreme girls will love it since you’ll be on the same wave. You’ll understand eachother.

-Having stories that your a spontaneous guy and live life moment to moment

Basically conveys that you live like this so its normal to have sex
pretty soon, without knowing eachother for hours/days/weeks.

-Being TOO comfortable doing anything you want

These
majorly include things like slap her ass to tease her or when she
shittests you. And doing other stuff that convey sexual awareness and
relax ness. Youre setting up the right vibe early on so the shift wont
be problematic.

i.e. The traveller or rebelic types work miracles in combination with
the above characteristics and behaviors, since they can fit perfectly
into eachother.

Seriously, getting laid quick is about having a certain attitude and aggressively going after what you want.  Many girls will get "swept up" by a guy who pushes the right buttons and sets the frame of "this is going to happen."  I agree with Nightblue that you really do have to set-up this dynamic early on in the interaction.  A sudden switch to this type of style down the road will seem to come out of left field and might touch off warning signal’s in the woman you’re with.

Something BIG Is Coming…

Hey guys,

Sorry for the lack of updates recently.  I’ve been hard at work on something really, really exciting which I think you’re all going to get a lot out of!  I’ll talk about it more next week.  Stay tuned!

Transitioning To Natural Game

Looks like Dimitri isn’t the only excellent poster over at Rapid Social Impact.  Woodhaven has a great post up about how to transition to a more natural pick-up game.  It’s very long, but well worth the read.

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The Best Time For Cocky & Funny

mASF Mega-poster ijjjji has a fantastic post up about when exactly is the best time to use the David DeAngelo technique of Cocky & Funny when interacting with a girl.

ijjjji writes:
Lately, I
have learned that there is a time when C&F is MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE
than early on before she is into you. The logic that says to attract
her, then seduce her, may be a bit off..

What I have seen is this: Early C&F spikes BT (buying temp) sharply
and strongly. But after this early spike, it is KINDA HARD to spike her
BT again. Its like she is ‘prepared’ and impossible to surprise. As if
she is onto your game.. a feeling like you have played your best card
too early…

The best time I found for C&F is when its getting late and you are
both kinda unsure where its leading. Maybe it was totally on and then
things cooled slightly cos she started thinking about consequences of
going home with you. Maybe you had full rapport but there was a slight
taint of friendliness to it, despite the kino
and the closeness. Maybe you made out like crazy and now she feels she
went a bit too far. No matter the reason, its getting late and its not
fully ON yet. THIS IS THE PERFECT TIME FOR C&F according to my
experience!

Possible reasons why:

-She will forget any sleepiness she probably feels at this point.
-She will forget about the outcome/sex/slut risk that has started to enter her frame since its becoming bed time.
-Since she is already a little into you, the spike brings her all the way up to ‘I wanna rape you now’ BT.
-She has spent some time with you and you still manage to surprise her.
-A lot of guys flirt (C&F) early on. You are different from the rest.

The only exception I found: Unreceptive girls. Girls with bitch shield and girls who have so high energy state or is so pre-occupied, that only high octane stuff can get their attention.

So, think about C&F as a trump card. Save it for when its needed.

I’ve noticed this too, that if you use too much cocky and funny early on, things can peeter out later in the interaction.  Maybe it’s because you set a certain standard that you can’t keep living up to in the interaction.  But regardless, I do notice that C&F works really well once you have a measure of rapport and comfort going.

Being and Becoming Attractive

Dimitri, of Rapid Social Impact (no, that’s not a porno movie), has an excellent, excellent, excellent post up about attraction and what it takes to be attractive.  It’s a very long post, but incredibly informative.  If Dimitri teaches half as well as he writes, those Real Social Dynamics guys might have some major competition!

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PUA Challenge Guidelines

Since it looks like Hypnotica’s PUA Challenge is going forward, I’d like to offer some guidelines for the challenge.  Now, I’m not gonna referee this thing, nor should any of the participants feel they should abide by these guidelines.  I just want to offer these ideas to make this PUA Challenge happen.

Guideline 1:  Have multiple categories of judging

To help definite how exactly each contestant will be judged, there should be a couple different categories by which the PUA is judged.  I recommend the following categories:

• Number of Phone Numbers Collects
• Number of Make-Out Sessions
• Number of Lays
• Number of Second Dates

One night stands or really fast fuck-closes can be hard to pull off.  Most girls take a little bit of time to get into bed, so the PUA challenge shouldn’t be judged simply on how many girls you can bang.  You should also take into account the number of phone numbers he got, the number of kisses/make-out sessions, and the number of day 2′s.  This will help balance things out more, plus, real PUAs do all these things, so it’s important to judge them in all aspects of it.

Guideline 2:  Proof Collection

The collection of numbers should be obvious, but only *real* numbers should count.  Make-outs, Lays, and Day 2s should be backed up by eyewitness accounts or photographic evidence of some kind.  I’m not suggesting you take pictures of the dirty deed, but maybe a photo of the girl laying in bed in the afterglow or something.  These pictures won’t be for public viewing, but rather for the two contestants to see when it comes time to match up scores.

Guideline 3:  Have a 2-stage challenge.

I think that guys in their own element will have an easier time picking up women than in a foreign environment, so the PUA challenge should have two stages.  The first stage is the home field stage, where each participant has a certain amount of time (like say, a week, for example) in their home town to collect evidence of the various categories of pick-up.  The second stage should be in neutral territory, such as Los Angeles or New York, for a shorter time period, like a weekend, where the two contestants go out and really compete head-to-head.  This way, neither party has the advantage.  Then, on the final day (or night), the two contestants can get together with a third party and review their results.

Those are my ideas.  You guys have any you’d like to throw out there?

The PUA Challenge Is Answered!!!

Concerning the PUA Challenge Hypnotica threw down a few days back, Mystery (preceeded by an "!" for some reason.  Does that mean "Fuck Mystery?"  Who knows.) has finally gotten around to responding.

!Mystery writes:
BTW, sorry I didnt reply sooner but I had a bootcamp in DC and I dont do the online thing too much while traveling.

If nobody accepts his challenge Ill do it, especially if the whole
thing could be broadcast somehow to the community – that way no matter
who wins we get the community going. But lets wait to see if anyone
will try him on before I do?

Also, I would like to lower the prize – for both Hypnotica and I its
not about the money and if I DID luck out and win then Id feel bad
taking that much. I bet he’d feel the same. So how about $500. Its
still considerable but not so much. I also fear that with such high
risk for challengers they may not TRY just in case.

Love !Mystery

Of course, the big surprize challenger has been the one-and-only mASF Granddaddy Formhandle, who’s apparently ready to flex his manly pecs on the West Coast for a change.  =)

Formhandle writes:
I suppose word will get out soon enough on this … I mailed Eric a few days ago
in regards to the challenge. I’m sure once this is known, others will
not want to be out-done and we will all see a flurry of names wanting
to be challenger. Too fuckin bad, I’ve got my hat first in the ring and
plan to do this for the hell of it. I don’t even have a clue what
Eric’s plans are but anybody yapping their gums about any of this and
not actually stepping up to the plate is full of it.

I was willing to do a similar thing ("challenge" LOL) at the Austin
Summit but nobody else stepped up. Hey, for all I know I will bomb a
big stinkeroo but at least can say my balls will cast a shadow over all
the "speculators".

Now… does anyone know where I can get the cheapest weekend tickets from BOS to SD?

Love,

Jay

And Hypnotica has accepted both challengers.

Hypnotica writes:
First. I give formhandle huge credit, we emailed each other and will
plan to meet. He was the first to accept the challenge. Big balls on
his part. The logistics are next. Mystery seems interested and i agree
i is not about the money but the money makes it real for takers . I
would enjoy doing it for fun, free or just to be tasked by someone
eager like me. I applaude both these guys for stepping up. I wil stop
with these guys because i want guys that are go getters. Remember the 3
second rule. I don’t want anyone else, these guys proved to me that
they are willing to go for it.

So there you have it, first round in the PUA challenger is Hypnotica vs. Formhandle.  Second round will be the winner vs. Mystery.  Let’s see if we can’t get some details on when this thing is going down and what the rules are.

Maybe we should schedule some time on pay-per-view?  =)

Levels Of Communication

Ever wonder about the communication differences between men and women?  Well, here is an 18 page PDF report on sexual communication, courtesy of superhappysex.com.  Hat tip to Posman on the Bad Boy forums for pointing out this one.

Traits of a Seducer

Raymond, over at his blog Bulletproof Pimp, has a pretty good post up about the traits and qualities the best seducers have.

Raymond writes:
Seduction is counterintuitive.
I would not have believed that Marc scored so many women if I had not
seen the evidence with my own eyes. I would have expected his more
mature, responsible, and better-looking brother to do much better than
him. The
essential building blocks of seduction are so counterintuitive, so
contrary to what rational analysis would lead you to, that the typical
guy will never figure out seduction on his own. I believe that
some men stumble across sexual success. Other guys will implement the
handful seduction strategies that are part of the popular
consciousness: work hard, buy her flowers, get a good job, be honest,
be yourself, treat her like a lady, etc., and these strategies are
doomed to fail.

 The
strategies that lead to success with women are so crazy, so irrational,
that a guy who strikes out with women will simply redouble his efforts
with those same failed techniques. In warfare the only way to
survive an ambush is to charge into the teeth of the enemy’s fusillade.
The successful technique of charging directly into hostile fire is
contrary to a man’s instinct, and so he must be trained in order to
survive. The secrets to seducing women seem like total insanity, such
that a man on his own will never figure them out in a million years.

 The master seducer’s “liabilities” are actually his assets.
Looked at rationally, there seemed to be dozens of factors holding Marc
back from success with women, but you should realize that these
handicaps were actually the means of his success. His lack of
commitment seemed spontaneous. His dangerousness was exciting. His
don’t give a damn attitude was carefree and relaxed. His inability to
plan for the future meant that he was totally here in the now. The fact
that he had screwed dozens of women meant that he had a cocksure
brazenness to his approach.

Brawny beats skinny.
One advantage Marc had over his brother and me is that he had a solid,
muscular build. I was very thin at that age. How many times have you
seen an extremely skinny man with a morbidly obese woman? We tend to
think of this as a mismatch, but a thin man and a fat woman are the
easiest and most natural pairing. A fat woman is the least attractive
woman, just as the skinny man is the least attractive man. In the Jack
Sprat and wife coupling we have two unattractive people getting the
best partner they’re capable of. Moral of the story: Hit the weights
and bulk up.

 

Hold out the possibility of getting married, but don’t be a dumbass and actually get married.
An unmarried man has everything he wants, in addition to protecting his
finances and future earnings. Women want to get their hands on your
cash and are yearning for the stability and social status that come
with marriage, so they will press for a wedding. You can either be
totally up front and ruin a good thing, or play it out as long as
possible.

Stop giving a flying F’%$@. Too many men are obsessed over outcomes.

I don’t want to ask her out because she might say no.

I don’t want to risk our friendship.

I just hope that Suzy agrees to go out with me –I’m so crazy about her I just don’t know what I’ll do if she says no.

Suzy said no! I’m so devastated; I’ve never felt so low. I guess I’m just a loser in love.

But
if some girl turned Marc down his attitude was, “Stupid cunt. Well, on
to the next one.” If she was married, or engaged, or a co-worker, or
any other imaginable supposedly insuperable obstacle, Marc’s attitude
was, “Fuck it. I’m going for it.” While I moped and agonized over my
latest rejection, Marc said “fuck it” and moved on.

Marc’s
devil-may-care attitude sucked women into his own reality, offering
them a tempting world wherein they, like he, could shed all of their
duties and obligations. Marc was fun, because nothing else
mattered, and women could shed their inhibitions with him. Women want
fun and adventure, which Marc offered in abundance, not a mature,
sensible hand-to–the-plow relationship.

 

                                                    

It has been my experience that the guys who are the most illogical are the ones who seem to be naturally talented with women.  I don’t know why that is.  Maybe it’s because women are fairly illogical and that allows these natural seducers to adapt to them quicker.  But the detached "I don’t give a fuck" attitude is something at ALL seducers who are worth their salt have.  The worst thing you can do if you want to pick up a woman is get attached to her. 

Most guys fall into this trap.  They get attached to women they’re attracted to!  A good seducer will still be attracted to a woman, but he won’t place so much importance on getting her (note:  that does not me he won’t do any work to get her!  It just means that should he get rejected or it fall through, he won’t linger on it). 

I think a big reason most guys get twisted into knots when it comes to women is that they don’t know how to disassociate themselves, at least initially, from their attachment to a girl they like.  This is mostly because most guys come from such a frame of scarcity, that once they find a girl they like, they feel that they’ll never be able to find a better woman for them.

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