Another Fidentia Review
August 12, 2005 by Thundercat
Filed under Rants & Reviews
A guy who calls himself Phase sent in this Fidentia workshop review. It reads as a pretty even-handed taked on a typical Fidentia workshop, so if anyone’s thinking of taking one with this crew, you may want to read it.
1000th Post!!!
August 12, 2005 by Thundercat
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Well, it’s official. As of this entry, I have published 1000 posts on this site. WOW. I have way too much free time on my hands. =)
Seeing as how this is a bit of a milestone for the site, I just want to take this opportunity to thank all of you who visit the site and contribute with your comments. It probably wouldn’t have gone on as long as it has without you.
A Lazy Man’s Guide To Getting A Girlfriend
August 12, 2005 by Thundercat
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Here’s an article from Fidentia’s Croatian Superstar Shark (aka Ranko Magami) which talks about how to get a girlfriend even if you’re lazy and have no willpower. Keep in mind English isn’t Shark’s first language, so some parts might be an awkward read.
Upcoming Seattle Mystery Method Workshop
August 12, 2005 by Thundercat
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This just in from the Mystery Camp…
Hey Seattle Guys,
DJ here with a special announcement just for you. DO YOU WANT TO IMPROVE YOUR SKILL TRANSITIONING FROM ATTRACTION INTO COMFORT AND GET MORE OF THE RESULTS YOU WANT? Of course you do. I can show you how, quickly and easily. Every time I do this program, guys stay in sets for long periods of time. Even after I’ve gone home.
I’m going to run a two-part Mystery Method specialty program in Seattle on Tuesday August 17th and Wednesday August 18th. This program is for both guys who have taken prior programs and guys just getting started. It is unique in the community and guides you towards a higher level refinement of two things:
- How to open – You will actually role play opening skills in the classroom. By teaching guys to have natural conversations, we are breaking habits that you may not even know you have. Habits that might be blowing you out of set. Whether you are just getting started and need some confidence to approach or you’re an old pro opening everything in sight, you will benefit immensely from the exercises.
- How to transition to rapport and convey your values to her. This is a “work from the inside out” workshop and contains inner game exercises not found anywhere else in the community.
Each component also includes an in-field workshop.
I am absolutely astonished at the feedback I am receiving for this workshop. This is a major key for guys who need to improve their ability to convey their unique personality. If you are interested in improving your game and your ability to captivate others, don’t miss this. I started this as an experiment and am astounded at the results and changes I see guys getting right before my eyes.
You will learn how to open anyone and convey your unique personality in any setting, whether it is a night venue, a library, an airport, the beach, or a coffee shop. You will also leave with the ability to develop and refine how you convey the most attractive aspects of who you are. Learn how to be natural and fascinating at the same time.
We’ll cover on Wednesday from 4pm to 9pm. In field 10-12.
1. The M3 Model. Mystery’s latest and greatest roadmap for every interaction with a woman. Learn how to understand where you are with this meta model and then you can seamlessly move forward through each step of the interaction.
2. A1 Opening. You will learn and experience through role playing scenarios exactly how an opener should feel. DJ will cover 5 openers you will immediately use during the fieldwork following the seminar. Guys tell me this is one of the most useful exercises they’ve ever done as we cover everything from tonality, to shield responses, to body language. YOU WILL PERFECT YOUR OPENING SKILLS IN THE CLASSROOM BEFORE EVEN STEPPING FOOT IN THE FIELD AND YOU WILL ALSO EXPERIENCE WHAT IT IS LIKE TO BE ON THE OTHER END. When we get in field, you will be able to open naturally and seamlessly without worrying about how to “Game.”
- How attraction and comfort are complementary forces that must be balanced and harmonized.
- A better mindset than the “sarging mentality.”
- Conversational flexibility and conversational arts.
- Different types of openers
- Proper body language
- Tonality
- How to be normal.
- How to interact rather than act and form a genuine connection.
- Experience an understanding of what it feels like to be on the other end of the conversation.
- The importance of a fun and friendly vibe that is genuine.
- Why putting on a show and being flashy can hurt your chances of going into comfort and a better way.
- Intensive feedback and personal coaching.
We’ll cover on Thursday from 4pm to 10pm. In field 11-1.
3. A2 Attraction and C1 comfort building: DJ’s unique storytelling workshop which can’t be found anywhere else. You’ll learn how to develop and tell captivating DHV stories from your own experience. Attraction to comfort is perhaps the most important phase of the interaction. You will learn how to initiate and engage in a conversation with any woman anywhere. We’ll work on stories and experiences from YOUR life that you can immediately use in set to convey your most attractive qualities. You will learn how to develop YOUR OWN material by using this particular template to develop and hone all of your own stories. Through a series of exercises and intensive personal and group feedback, you will learn how to connect with your core values and how to find your own personal experiences that convey who you are to her. You will learn both an attraction and comfort transition version of how to convey your story, whether it be your life story or just a funny experience…And you will take home a model to use to refine all of your own material.
- Why the middle way is both more difficult yet way more effective than either extreme
- Understand her model of the world – the difference between self esteem (How she relates to herself) and sexual confidence (How she relates to the world)
- Finding happiness vs temporary moments of pleasure.
- Personal goal setting
- Discover and understand your inner values and what’s really important “Who are you?”
- Learn to tweak “How you are” to reflect who you are and still be attractive.
- The importance of building a solid, creative, flexible and happy life as a foundation for interacting with women.
- What qualities/virtues in a man are attractive to women.
- Why you already have an interesting life.
- Understanding how experiences you’ve already had can be a vehicle to convey who you are as well as your most attractive characteristics
- The elements of a good story
- Exercises to polish your story
- Emotional hook words, pauses, and tonality.
- Creating the perfect ending for your story. 5 different ways.
- Multiple threading.
- How to be captivating.
- How getting too tightly attached to views can hold us back from improvement. Don’t believe everything you think.
Both nights include:
In-field experience. You will be given a chance to go into the field to a laid back venue where your sets will open and you can get into and stay in sets.
The inner frame of “I am a man who comfortable enough to present who I am to the world confidently,” differentiating self esteem and sexual confidence, and a deeper understanding of attraction and comfort.
The in-field part will give you a chance to play with some of the stuff that we explore at the seminar and receive feedback.
Each component includes a 2 hour in field portion. For best results, I recommend taking both pieces and that’s why I’m offering a big discount for full program.
Wednesday “Everything you need to start a conversation/refining opening skills intensive” program: $300
Thursday “Learning how to convey who you are and transitioning to rapport through storytelling” Program $400
Take both for $500!
What others are saying after this program in Montreal, Canada:
DJs conversation workshop was, in my opinion, one of the pivotal elements that helped bring all my talents together. I’ve already had quite some experience before his workshop, but now with the formula and exercises we’ve run through, my confidence in ALL my interactions has gone WAY up. Its unlike ANYTHING there is out there, I’m certain (I’ve done my research) I believe that being a natural conversationalist and storytellers is one of the most important elements in empowering ourselves to move forward in life.
The workshop on openers was a pleasant and unexpected surprise, because I’ve seen almost all the openers out there but now this allows us to convey and align them with an added perspective. Its about congruence, awareness and added structure to the game.
DJ, I gotta give you a big ass thanx for this wisdom you’ve been able to revolutionize our lives with. Cheers,
L. Brown – Montreal, QC
Raleigh, North Carolina:
For all that missed it yesterday, DJ’s Mystery Method seminar was great! High energy and with a lot of practice and role playing. I personally got a lot out of it. Thanks DJ for the great tips on story-telling.
I got I out of that mini-seminar last night. Like I was mentioning, I think that part of my problem with approach anxiety is not knowing what to say. Now that I have the formula for creating some killer stories, that shouldn’t be much of a problem anymore. I’ve already enlisted the services of my HB8.5 friend to do the exercise that we did last night on some of my other stories.
I want to thank DJ for the awesome seminar and fieldwork. It was a slow night but we were still able to get sets and watching DJ in set was amazing, he was able to re-open sets that I thought were long gone. I’ll never forget how he gamed these 2 young, drunk girls at the pizza place after the set died on us with the girls saying they had to go to the bathroom and he was tired as hell and didn’t want to do it, yet he still owned them to show us what’s possible!
And from the Miami seminar:
I only took the mini-workshop on Monday, but that small part was very enlightening. DJ was a really good instructor, that wasn’t focused strictly on nightclub game; which was a relief, because these skills should prepare you for the 95% of your life that you don’t spend in a nightclub. He showed us how we should be using stories to (subtly and not-so-subtly) convey things about ourselves. The concept isn’t new or groundbreaking but he was able to present it in a clear manner that makes it seem so obvious, that you want to slap yourself for not having been able to put it together.
I was shocked that this (judging by the reactions of the workshop people who attended that night) went beyond what was covered in the weekend bootcamp workshop.
EMAIL ME ASAP IF YOU ARE INTERESTED. dj@mysterymethod.com
For more about me, read my bio on the Mystery Method “Bios” page.
Thanks guys!
DJ
So I guess Mystery won’t be at this one at all? Looks like Mystery might be taking more of a backseat in his business now and let others do the bulk of the teaching. I don’t think this is necessarily a bad thing, since Mystery Method can be taught by pretty much anyone who understands the concepts behind it. But still, if I were taking a Mystery Method workshop, I think I’d want Mystery to be there (of course, I may just be old school like that).
A Terrible Mistake That’s Keeping You From Success With Women
August 5, 2005 by Thundercat
Filed under Articles
Hi everyone,
I hope you’re all doing well. Lately, I’ve been having a great time.
It can be easy to get so worked up over normal, every day things –
like work, school, relationships, etc. — that it’s nice to every once
and a while take a step back and unwind.
That’s what I’ve been doing lately.
And it’s been a great reminder to me that we shouldn’t be taking life so seriously all the time.
In fact, being able to kick back like this is a key factor in being successful in life — AND with women!
Allow me to explain.
Fun is an important factor in being successful. You have to actually
ENJOY the journey you’re taking if you want to achieve your goals in
life.
For instance, if you want to be a pro golfer, but you HATE golfing, do
you think you’re going to stick to your goal? Or will you look for
something more satisfying for you?
I’m willing to bet the answer to that is YES.
The same is true of meeting women.
If you want to have a beautiful girlfriend/wife/whatever, but you HATE
the process of meeting women, are you really going to end up getting
what you want?
I’m willing to bet the answer to that is NO.
I get emails on a daily basis from guys lamenting about how much they
want to have a wonderful woman in their lives, but they always add to
that "But I hate going to bars, clubs, bookstores, gas stations, public
places, anywhere with actual living humans, etc. What can I do?"
I think some guys would just prefer to sit at home and look at naughty
pictures of women on the internet than actually go out and meet real
girls.
This is because they don’t know how to make meeting women FUN.
And let’s face it, if this is a chore, then you’re not going to want to do it, right?
So let’s role up our sleeves and get our hands dirty, because I want to
tell you how to make meeting women something you actually can ENJOY
doing as opposed to making it something you HATE doing and are
reluctant to pursue.
The first thing I want you to think about is what kind of a woman it is
that you want. What does she like? What is she interested in? What
does she look like? The more you know about the woman you want, the
easier it will be to filter out all the girls you DON’T want.
Remember, the narrower your search, the more happy you’ll be with the results you get.
The second thing I want you to think about is where you can meet the
kind of woman you want. Make a list of all the places you can think of
where a woman who’s interested in the kind of things you want her to be
would go.
For instance, let’s say you want a girl who loves baseball. Where
would girls who love baseball go? Just off the top of my head, here’s
a list:
- Major League Baseball Games
- Minor League Baseball Games
- Little League Baseball Games
- Sports Bars On Game Day
- Sporting Goods Stores
- Baseball Conventions
The list could go on, but you get the idea. So if you love baseball,
and you want a woman who loves baseball — GO TO A BASEBALL GAME! And
while you’re there, meet the women who are there too! Use the other
qualities you’re looking for in a girl to pick and choose which women
you want to meet.
At the very least, you’re doing something you enjoy anyway, so you’re going to have fun no matter what!
But if you’re still wondering what to do once you actually have to MEET
a woman, you need to check out my book The Art Of Approaching.
In it, I’ll take you step-by-step through the process of how to meet
the women you want, quickly and easily, with no fear of rejection or
failure. If you haven’t already gotten my book and read it
cover-to-cover, you owe it to yourself to do so now:
Click Here To Get Your Copy Of The Art Of Approaching Today.
And remember, no matter what, figure out how to have fun and enjoy the
process of meeting women! You’ll get much better results if you do.
Wishing you success,
Thundercat
Cliff’s List Seminar Report, Part II
August 5, 2005 by Thundercat
Filed under Rants & Reviews
Okay, the next part of the report is here! I was mistaken in my last post, it looks like this is going to be a 3-part report, so there’s still one more to go. Part II covers people like Mystery, Bishop, Toecutter, and Juggler. It looks like the last part will deal with David Shade, Zan, David D, and Style (the most powerful of the Jedi). Stay tuned!!!
Jessica Simpson in The Dukes Of Hazzard
August 5, 2005 by Thundercat
Filed under Rants & Reviews
I used to watch The Dukes Of Hazzard when I was a kid (a really, really little kid!). I loved car chases then, and I love them even more now. I can remember I even used to have one of those electric Dukes Of Hazzard race tracks (you know, the kind where you put a little car on a track, plug it in, push a button, and watch the car run the track until it falls off?), so I’ve been a fan for a while. So when I saw they were making a movie of it, I was really excited! But the first question that sprung to my mind was "Who are they gonna get to play Daisy Duke?"
Well, they cast Jessica Simpson. I never watched any of the Newlyweds shows on MTV, and I was never a big fan of her music, so I didn’t know much about her other than the fact that she’s H-O-T! But after seeing the trailer for this movie, I was really excited, because it not only seems like she can act, it also seems like she perfectly captured the pure sexuality of the character.
I’m looking forward to seeing The Dukes Of Hazard today, it looks like it’ll be a really fun movie! It’s directed by one of the guys who made the movie Super Troopers (which is a funny movie too, if you haven’t seen it yet), not to mention some episodes of Arrested Development (one of the funniest shows ever to grace television, in my opinion), so it should be good.
Post any reviews of The Dukes of Hazzard to this thread! (And enjoy the Jessica Simpson Pictures!)
Stupid Girls Itching (And Other Great SPAM Emails)
August 5, 2005 by Thundercat
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I don’t know about you guys, but I get literally HUNDREDS of SPAM emails every day, and I must admit, despite the annoyingness (is that even a word?) of the junk email I get, some of the titles I see in my SPAM folder can get pretty entertaining.
I think my favorite spam headline so far was this email I got recently with the title "Stupid Girls Itching." I laughed when I saw it and just HAD to open it up. Of course, it was a pitch for some bizzar german sex site written in very poor english, but the title was just gold in the humor department, I thought.
Since then, I’ve gotten a few more SPAM headline favorites. Most recently, there was "Watch dumb european women work hard for my proposal" and then the ever charming "She feels son into her." *shudder* (I wonder who they think this stuff appeals to?)
Anyway, I guess the point of this post is I’m wondering if you guys have any great/funny SPAM headlines you’ve come across? Post them in this thread, they should be worth a laugh or two. =)
Cliff’s List Seminar Report, Part I
August 2, 2005 by Thundercat
Filed under Rants & Reviews
Here is part 1 (of 2) of the Cliff’s List Seminar Report. Special thanks to Senior Lucas for writing this up. Part 2 will be up tomorrow.
Real PUA on ABC’s “Hooking Up?”
August 2, 2005 by Thundercat
Filed under News
Apparently there’s a show on ABC called "Hooking Up," which is about Internet Dating. Money Matteo says there’s a friend of his on there who’s a natural pick-up artist. Here’s the latest:
Money_Matteo writes:
One of my
favorite natural-gaming buddies, Debonair Dave, from the NYC-Lair is
currently being featured on the ABC primetime series Hooking-Up. They
did a great job of capturing natural-game from Meet to Lay and his
Post-Lay management.. one disclaimer. it is a show covering
‘online-dating’ so there is no approach to speak of.There’s a lot to learn from this kid and it comes up in the show, especially from his concentrated DHVs..
You can download the episodes here.
He makes his first appearance in episode 2.
From some of the quotes Money Matteo posts in his thread, it certainly seems like this might be worth checking out. And if you don’t know what bittorrents are, go here.
Meeting Women By Being “Wedding Crashers”
August 2, 2005 by Thundercat
Filed under Tips & Tricks
If you haven’t seen the movie "Wedding Crashers" starring Owen Wilson and Vince Vaughn (and you really should, it’s a very funny movie), it’s about two guys who crash weddings to prey on women who are high off the romance of seeing their friend/loved one get married. Apparently, crashing weddings is very fun and includes a great deal of dancing, eating, and drinking before whisking some unsuspecting bridesmade off to the closest hotel room.
Now, obviously this is just a movie and a work of fiction, but knowing how horney guys are typically, you know that half the men who go to see this movie are thinking "Hey, I wonder if this could work?" Personally, I feel that crashing weddings is a very dumb thing to do, and if you get caught, it’s not just a bad thing for you, but you are contributing to ruining someone’s ACTUAL wedding. But a guy named Supermania over on mASF has some ideas on how crashing weddings might actually work.
Supermania writes:
I think that by arriving after the food and speeches – when the bars
have opened up, and the dance floor is buzzing, and people are hopping
from one table to another – you circumvent the need to be identified
and "seated".If you arrived at the beginning when people were first arriving and
being seated, then you may need to produce an invitation, or at least
be more identifying. That’s where you could get fucked up.As far as answering questions as to who you are, I would avoid
answering as family. You’re right that most people would know of people
in their own family, and that could lead to problems. Not to mention
you could paint yourself into a corner with HB’s (ie: incest). I would stick with "a close friend of Bill’s" or something to that effect.It would of course be best to lose yourself in a crowd at a huge wedding, and avoid the small ones, for obvious reasons.
These are untested assumptions, based on common-sense brainstorming.
I’m still interested to hear any real-life experiences of actual
"wedding crashers" out there. Good and bad.
I’d just like to say to any guy out there contemplating crashing a wedding: DON’T DO IT. There are plenty of ways to meet women other than doing this. But if you have crashed a wedding in the past, please be sure to relate your experiences here, because I’d like to know how it turned out.
Dating on MySpace?
August 2, 2005 by Thundercat
Filed under Rants & Reviews
If you haven’t noticed the trend in online dating away from the pay sites like "Match.com" over to the free community-based sites like MySpace and Friendster, it’s probably time you stood up and paid attention. I know a lot of guys who just spend their days crawling through profile after profile on sites like MySpace looking for hot chicks in their area who are open to meeting up, and some of them have a great deal of success.
Obviously, sites like MySpace and Friendster don’t have the same stigma attached to them as most dating sites do, and not only that, but it’s more interactive and customizable. Many of the women on the site seem to use it as their personal web site that they send all their friends to, because it can be used as a blog and you can send announcements to all your friends. Not only that, but you can upload tons of pictures. Indeed, sites like MySpace are like online crack for a lot of women.
Not only that, but MySpace also hosts a lot of parties across the country where they encourage their members to attend. I must admit, I’ve gone to one of these events, and considering it was a gathering place for a bunch of people who spend a lot of their time online, it was incredibly wild.
It’s my experience (and some of you may disagree with me), that most of the women you find on MySpace can be quite pretty, smart, funny, etc. But a lot of them aren’t the best in the "social skills" department, which is probably why they’ve fallen back onto an online outlet to meet others in the first place. Indeed, there are a great many women who are too busy to have any social life at all who rely on sites like this to meet friends and have fun with (like strippers, for instance. There’s an ungodly ammount of strippers on sites like MySpace! =) I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with the women on these sites, just that none of them really know how to meet people, so they’re more open to dating guys who actually bother to do the work to approach them.
Now, that’s not always true. You do occasionally find party girls on there, and some of the women are too young to bother with. But because these are free services, you’re always getting an influx of fresh blood into the system, which means the "picking ground" never gets stagnant.
I personally haven’t really developed any hard-core strategies for these kinds of community-based websites, but I’m sure some of you out there have. I’d love to hear any suggestions you guys have for dating women off these sites.
Rumors Of My Demise Have Been Exagerated…
August 1, 2005 by Thundercat
Filed under News
Hi All,
You might have noticed there has been little updating of the blog recently. Well, it’s not because I’ve left the community or been killed by a MINE’99 sponsored hit squad. I just took some "mental health" time to get my bearing and unwind a bit. I found that I was spending WAY too much time on the internet while it was beautiful and sunny outside, so I took a week or so off to enjoy my life for a while. That meant absolutely NO internet, NO email, and definitely NO blog! =)
Of course, today I come back to find over 1500 messages in my inbox (a new record, the previous was around 632!). So now I start the long and arduous process of weeding through the email and finding which ones are worth responding to! So if you’ve been trying to get in touch with me and haven’t heard anything back, know that I’ll be getting to your email soon.
I also haven’t read any of the replies you guys have been posting since I took my little vacation, so I’m not even sure what (if any) drama is going on right now. If anyone want’s to give me the "Cliff Notes" version in this thread, please feel free.
I’ll be returning to regular blog updates tomorrow (Tuesday August 2nd), and I’ll also be updating SeductionLair.com later on tonight as well.
Beware Evil Women
July 15, 2005 by Thundercat
Filed under Articles
This may be the most important blog post you’ve ever read.
Seriously.
This one email will be able to save you tons and TONS of heartache AND money IF you heed the advice you’ll find within it.
Why?
Because the advice I’m about to give you is designed to protect you from THE most dangerous and harmful thing on the face of the planet…
EVIL WOMEN.
Just like all things, there is good, and there is evil. The good can be a tremendously positive force in your life, filling it with joy and happiness. The evil, however, can cause tremendous pain, suffering, and even DEATH.
It’s no different with women.
There are good women in this world, and there are women that can only be described as EVIL. The purpose of this email is to help you spot the bad ones so you can save yourself from untold suffering and focus all your attention on finding a good woman that you can have amazing experiences with.
The first thing I want to say about EVIL women is that it is important to spot them early! And once spotted, it is important not to have any type of contact with them if you want to enjoy complete happiness in your love life.
Of course, sometimes it can be very tempting to have a one-night stand or hot-and-heavy fling with a woman who is bad for you. And sometimes, everything can turn out okay. But that doesn’t mean you’re not still playing russian roulette with your love life!
The best defense against EVIL women is knowing the type of woman you want.
EXACTLY the type of woman you want.
When you know what you want, your search for the woman that’s right for you becomes much narrower and focused, so instantly you filter out a great many of the women you’ll be wasting your time with.
For instance, let’s say you’re looking for a serious girlfriend…
What are the things you’d want in a woman who’s going to be a good girlfriend? Let’s say you’d like a woman who really enjoys outdoor activities (because that’s what you enjoy). So you’re girlfriend has to be an avid outdoorsman. BOOM! You’ve just narrowed your search and eliminated a good 90% of the EVIL women that are out there.
But there’s still that 10% you have to look out for.
The next thing you should be aware of is if she is in a profession that lends itself to "unbalanced" personalities.
For instance, if the girl is, or has ever been, a stripper, a prostitute, or a porn actress, her chances of causing you incredible amounts of trouble are EXTREMELY great. And we’re not just talking about the mental trouble either, they could very well give you a disease from which you may never recover!
Another thing to look out for is self-destructive habits. If you notice the woman you’re with is a heavy drug user or alcoholic… RUN. Do not get seriously involved with women who drink too much, do too many drugs, or both. These are women who will care more about the substances they abuse than YOU. And they are also women who care nothing about themselves, and getting emotionally attached to someone who cares nothing for their well-being is a painful endeavor.
Some people criticize me for saying this, but I do believe it… BEWARE SINGLE MOTHERS! If you’re getting involved with a woman who already has a kid, you’re opening yourself up for a great deal of trouble down the line.
Why?
Because if she got pregnant once by some other guy,chances are she’ll get pregnant by YOU! Even if you use birth control! And if she DOES get pregnant, chances are she’ll go ahead and have the baby. This means that whether you break up with her or not, you’ll be stuck paying child support for the next 18 years! Now, if the idea of shelling out your hard-earned cash for a kid you never wanted to a woman you don’t like for the next 18 years of your life doesn’t appeal to you — STAY AWAY FROM SINGLE MOMS!
In addition to that warning above, single moms will always choose their kids over you, which means you will always get the short end of the stick when it comes to her time and attention. So if you want lots of sex and adventures in your relationship, you can throw that away when dealing with a single mom! And not only that, but depending on what state you live in, if her kid gets attached to you, you might be legally liable for child support EVEN IF IT ISN’T YOUR KID! Check your local laws to be certain.
Watch out for women who are too clingy and get jealous easily! These are women who are incredibly insecure, and most likely they will cheat on you! In fact, the more jealous they are, the more likely it is they are sleeping around. This is because people tend to project their own behaviors on others, and if they think you’re cheating on them, chances are it’s because they, themselves, are cheating (or thinking about it!).
Watch how the woman treats her own family. Typically, women who have good relationships with their mother AND father are well balanced women who will treat you well. If they hate EITHER of their parents, chances are they’re going to end up treating you the same way.
As a side note to this, loot at how her parents treat each other if you get the chance. If their relationship is a good one, chances are the relationship you have with her will be good too! The same is true if the parents have a BAD relationship.
Also, look to see if the woman you like also likes children. It doesn’t matter if you want to have kids or not. If a woman does not like kids, that’s a statement about her own capacity to love and nurture! If she hates kids, then it’s a very good possibility she is incapable of deep commitment and personal connection, and will end up using and abusing the man she is with!
And finally, if you find out that you’re with an EVIL woman, do not hesitate to DUMP her immediately!
And when I say dump, I mean DUMP. Delete her number from your phone, do not see her or talk to her again. Cut her out of your life completely! And if she comes crawling back to you promising to change, DO NOT TAKE HER BACK. She won’t change, and she’ll make your life even WORSE than it was when you were with her before. Be strong and leave her behind completely, and work towards finding a good, positive woman to have in your life.
You can’t protect yourself 100% from EVIL women, but if you follow the guidelines I’ve given you above, then you have an extremely good chance of filtering them all out.
So how do you find yourself a good woman?
Well, odd enough as it sounds, the quality of the woman you can get directly depends on how high you value yourself!
This means building a strong self-image that you can present to the world.
In my book, The Art Of Approaching, I go into great detail on how to do this. Everything from building extreme confidence with women, to how to get them to go out with you is in there! If you haven’t checked out my book yet, you can do so by clicking on the link below:
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Cliff’s List Seminar Is Here!
July 15, 2005 by Thundercat
Filed under News
Well, it’s July 15th, and it looks like the biggest event in the seduction community this year, the Cliff’s List Seminar, is going to kick-off today!
Unfortuneately, I will not be a part of it.
Some responsibilities here in Los Angeles have forced me to cancel my trip to Cliff’s Seminar. Cliff knows about it, and I’m very sorry to all of you who were expecting to see me there. I was looking forward to meeting all the guest speakers and attendees, but right now a weekend in Montreal just isn’t possible for me.
If anyone would like to write a detailed report of the seminar (see my DYD Masters recap as an example) and take pictures of the event, I’ll pay $$$ to post it on my site. Just make sure it’s nice and detailed! =)
Here’s the breakdown of the CLS as it stands now:
CLIFF’S LIST SEMINAR
Meet and Learn from this outstanding and unprecedented collection of the Top Masters of the Game, including the following Guest Speakers who will be appearing IN PERSON:
CONFIRMED:
David DeAngelo (www.doubleyourdating.com)
Juggler (www.charismasciences.com)
Doc (see his interview at http://www.cliffslist.com/page2c.pl)
Steve Celeste (Toecutter) (www.smoothinteractions.com)
Tyler Durden (www.realsocialdynamics.com)
Style (world famous writer and seducer)
Brian (see his interview at http://www.cliffslist.com/page2c.pl)
Patty Contenta (http://www.sensualitysecrets.com/)
Stephane (www.ideagasms.com)
Steve Piccus (www.stevepiccus.com)
Mark B. (popular contributor to Cliff’s List)
Zan (famed rake!)
Brent (www.absolutepowerdating.com)
Michael Emery (Bishop) (www.new-alpha.com)
Lance Mason (Sensei) (www.pickup101.com)
Will (www.youaresoinmyway.com)
The_One (AKA Cameron Teone) (http://www.fidentia.org/)
Dr Alex Benzer aka Dr Tao
David Shade (http://masterful-lover.com/)
Mystery (www.mysterymethod.com)
Stephen (AKA PlayboyLA) (www.ceimageconsulting.com)
Mike (AKA Sickboy) (www.ceimageconsulting.com)Tentatively confirmed:
Dimitri/Vincent (w w w.rapidsocialimpact.com)Highly likely:
Bart Baggett (www.myhandwriting.com)
David Van Arrick (www.askmastercla ss.com)Also attending:
Papa (www.realsocialdynamics.com)
Formhandle (www.fastseduction.com)
TokyoPUA (www.fastseduction.com)
Dwacon (www.dwacon.com)
Orion
Greg (www.seductionpro.com)
Dave M. (www.insiderinternetdating.com)
Savoy & Sinn (www.mysterymethod.com)Please note that with such a large list of invited guests, we cannot be responsible for last minute changes including non appearance of one or more of the above. However, many others have been invited and we expect this list to grow substantially by the time of the event.
PARTIAL TENTATIVE TOPIC LIST (subject to change):
David DeAngelo: Will talk about advanced material that he hasn’t shared previously.
Bishop: "Know where you ARE, so you know where to GO in seduction."
Brent: "Taking Back the Power You’ve Given to Women"
Steve Piccus: Would You Date Yourself or Working your Complementary Opposites for improving your inner game.
Dr Alex Benzer aka Dr Tao: Will talk about beliefs, doing some seriously mind-altering drills, and talking about some techniques.
David Shade’s talk will be on: "Threesomes: The Secrets To Making Your Fantasy A Reality"
Sickboy & PlayboyLA: Secrets to pick-up that lead to long-term relationships. So often the pick-up has to do with getting laid, ONS (One Night Stands), etc. What we are interesting in pa ssing on is our technique for meeting women that encourages long-term, healthy relationships. We plan to go into specific techniques that we teach that a ssist this dynamic as well as building a lifestyle which naturally att racts women that you are compatible with, reducing your need to spend a lot of time "sarging". Our clients tend to be very busy, and just don’t have the time to go out to clubs/bars, etc. so we have had to customize our work in this fashion enabling them to meet women through the natural rhythm of living their life rather than hitting "sets" over and over.
Sensei: Will talk on "Kino: The Power of a Gentle Touch".
Zan: "A Love Affair With Women"
Style: His topic will be: "Beyond the Approach — How to Keep a Woman."
Cameron: Belief and mentality of a man who is successful in attracting women. Seeing the Matrix & The 5 Attributes of a seducers. He will give a quick background of his journey and why he joined the community. His talk will include being comfortable in your own skin and the belief system paradigm shift.
Mark B.: Will cover the basics, his background, his experience and how that changed him, att raction, how to connect, etc.
Patty Contenta: will talk on body language, and how to recognize a woman’s subtle signals.
FABULOUS SPECIAL PARTY INCLUDED!
As a special bonus, the Seminar will feature a spectacular party being thrown in cooperation with a modelling agency. Many very attractive women will be in attendance.
To all the attendees, pay particular attention to: Style (the most powerful of the Jedi (BE SURE TO ADDRESS HIM AS SUCH WHEN HE TAKES THE STAGE! =) ) , Steve Piccus (the godfather of the seduction community. He’ll deny it, but its rumored MINE’99 got some of his best stuff (you know, the stuff that actually works) from this guy! Also, be sure to ask him about his ideas on Threesomes!), and Zan (the coolest guy I’ve ever met in this community. We should all aspire to be like Zan!). You’ll be able to learn incredible stuff from ALL the speakers, but to me, these three are the stand-outs.
Good luck, have fun, and be sure to post all your exploits at the seminar to this thread!
And I’m serious about paying $$$ for a detailed recap of the seminar with pictures. Email me for deatials if you’re interested.







