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1. Tidler says:

   April 7, 2006 at 2:00 pm

   well said darkie
2. TylerDurden says:

   April 7, 2006 at 2:25 pm

   Now that the secret’s out, I’d like to add that the private mASF forum has been around since late 2004.

   -TD
3. The Unkown PUA says:

   April 7, 2006 at 3:04 pm

   Some people are not willing to sit down for a few hours a week and just brainstorm on some ideas for opening women. Then, God forbid, actually go out and try their own ideas (yes, I know, that means actually getting out and talking to women).

   What a concept, huh?

   If you need anyone to tell you exactly what to say to a woman and when to say it, your pretty clueless.

   These “gurus”, at best, can only point you in the right direction (if they’re good), the rest is up to you.
4. The Darkchild says:

   April 7, 2006 at 4:41 pm

   Yeah, I know Tidler.

   I have a way with words.
5. Tidler says:

   April 7, 2006 at 4:46 pm

   They dont call you the Darkchild for nothing
6. Formhandle is lame says:

   April 8, 2006 at 2:45 am

   Form said:

   “If there was, I wouldn’t be talking about it whether I say there is one or there is not one. Merely mentioning the non-existence of something causes people to believe something exists. If it really existed, I wouldn’t even be talking about the non-existence of it LOL”

   Now this is a complete and utter horseshit argument. Being quiet about it doesn’t really help it; being quiet and not talking about the “non-existence” of something would indeed give credence to more suspicion and to the feeling that you’re hiding something. So you DO respond, but throw in this lame binder to try to cover your ass. Lame.
7. Tough Love says:

   April 8, 2006 at 3:07 am

   Hey, formhandle is lame, although you make a good point, everyone else has realised that.
   so why don’t you come over here and let me spread your juicy, tender rectum open so that i can insert my massive schlong up it. I will do it until you can walk no more and will have to use a wheelchair for the rest of your life, but what a night for you it will be.
   I bet you are hard already thinking about it – well i am waiting for you – come and get it!!

   - Tough Love
8. The Darkchild says:

   April 8, 2006 at 5:22 am

   Tough Love.

   You suck.
9. Tough Love says:

   April 8, 2006 at 12:23 pm

   The Darkchild

   Fuck You

   - Tough Love
10. The Darkchild says:

    April 8, 2006 at 4:05 pm

    Sure.

    Where do you live.

    By the way, you suck.
11. ARealUSCitizen says:

    April 8, 2006 at 10:14 pm

    With this new immigration legislation, Mystery might be able to come out of the shadows and earn his citizenship.

    It’s about time he starts paying taxes on all of that loot he’s earning!
12. RSD goin bankrupt says:

    April 8, 2006 at 11:53 pm

    I wonder if the IRS knows about the community?

    They would also be interested in a tiny company called RSD…

    I bet those fuckers never paid one dollar in taxes in their life. Maybe somebody should inform the revenue service?
13. I am Mad says:

    April 9, 2006 at 3:28 am

    ************Breaking news, yet again***************

    Can you believe i got this in my E-Mail from Style aka Neil the sell out strauss…

    Neill strauss wrote:
    —————————————–
    YES, I WILL TEACH THE ANNIHILATION METHOD.
    —————————————–

    There. I said it …OK?

    But there’s a catch.

    There’s NO WAY I’m going to show this to all 17,609 people
    on this newsletter.

    Two reasons:

    1. This is powerful stuff that nobody’s ever seen before. If it
    was in the worng hands …or used in the wrong way, things could
    get ugly.

    2. Because this is so hard-core …and it’s something that NOBODY
    is using, it’s pretty much bullet proof.

    I’D LIKE TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.

    Think about it. If everyone and their brother started using the
    same material, it wouldn’t be as powerful.”

    Ok, now that he has admited it, can we all agree neil strauss is the biggest liar in history? If i recall, didn’t this little queer say that he was gonna teach the “ANNIHILATION METHOD” to a select few ppl that coincedently had the biggest pay rolls to afford it….hmmmm I wonder how they are feeling right now knowing they paid 10,000 dollars for a shity method that got them a total of two number closes and a kiss on the cheek…and now to add insult to injury, Neil strauss will yet again back stab those few who paid that hefty of a price to the masses ( this time us) for a lower amount of money….( my guess is 400$) for the same method they paid 10,000 for….Folks, i said it once and I’ll say it again, this guy is money hungry and will do anything and anyone to get your hard earned money…..what a snake…

    Neil strauss wrote: “Think about it. If everyone and their brother started using the
    same material, it wouldn’t be as powerful.”

    Neil, if u really felt this way then why the hell did you write the book called “The Game?”….or worse, why are u still writing another book as we speak…as if the first didn’t bring enough sorry KJ’s that suck ur ass all day….or even more worse, why the hell did you sell the movie story to movie makers so they can come out with a movie to expose the “community?”…..

    Neil toothless strauss, ur a lying sack of shit, ur material is just stolen from every one else…ur lame and u just want all the “nice guys” money cuz they are a bunch of timid mother fuckaz, who suck ass and don’t talk back…..

    It’s amazing how this bald midget can just flat out lie and ppl still except it…this guy even said he “retired from the game”, yet he is still here lurking and peeping through forums trying to steal some new method from an AFC who posted it on a public forum trying to get social proof from nerds….

    Neil, it’s called Karma…ur girlfriend ( wife to be) left u for a reason, u are a snake u fucking whor.e.

    It’s up to you KJ’s, stop suporting this little fuk….why buy this material knowing he will sell it for cheaper in his 450 page book about him sucking mysterys dick and every internet guru…what’s worse, is the movie is coming out, rest asure, all his material he will sell to you will be on there….dont support a liar and a back stabber…he stole and raped the community and now wants your money too…shame on you neil…shame on you I say…
14. ERelikii says:

    April 9, 2006 at 1:36 pm

    David D is the best copier you have ever seen.

    This guy has done his best to create his own “unified theory” of flirt, by mixing all bloody things together, to present you with some shit which works wonders for him to impress you.

    If you do your best to buy his products you will end up with tons of VALIDATION in front of your nose, which has to do with absolute virgin beginners.
15. kalamazuu says:

    April 10, 2006 at 12:27 am

    Yeah, people can say that it’s no big deal if he tells the secrets of the community, but it’s not like he’s just sharing shit that he made up.
    I honestly now believe that he doesn’t give a shit about us at all. I mean when he did the teleseminar, I thought, “well maybe a lil” but not anymore.
    In his book he complains about people using his exact words as their own (although he did the same w/ the words of others… then in his teleseminar AND newsletter he gives the jealous girlfriend, and a bunch of other routines as suggestions for people like he suddenly doesn’t mind.

    I guess that’s what you can expect from a liar. I mean, he thinks it’s ok in the context of flirting “it’s not lying it’s flirting” but comeon. I guess although he vowed to only teach a select few the annihilation method for money that was just to assure they were serious – as a thank you to the community will grow into a select multitude!

    Was this all on some take over the world shit or what? He gave the Mystery Method away, belittled ALL of the major commercial gurus… says he’s quiting the game (false time constraint), then he’s here just for a lil while, now he’s calling his mailing list a community.

    He even says in his book how he was shocked that when he told people not to talk about him being a pua that they listened even though he exposed them in his ny times articles.

    I thought he was already rich. This dude just doesn’t give a fuck…

    but look out for him to be the number 1 PUA of the year yet again “look at this… we got a hat-trick: 3 years in a row”
16. Neil is a LIAR says:

    April 10, 2006 at 1:08 am

    ^^^ well said Kalamazuu…Neil strauss is a sell out and a little whore who takes ppl shit and sells it to others…

    I’m sorry, but his “false time constraint” that he came up with didn’t blow the seduction community away…now this little fruit cake is running around every TV show that would air him, on how he is the greatest PUA in the world..

    Thanks to Neil Strauss, being a PUA is common in the UK media…look at what BBC is writing about this new “phenomenon” (fuck no, i will never spell check my work)

    ———Check this article out———–
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/4374888.stm

    The Magazine’s review of blogs
    By Alan Connor

    Seduction guides are making the leap from online to print. But British men aren’t sold on the hard sell.

    “Women are strange creatures. I don’t think I will ever truly understand them. I’m not really sure I want to.”
    -Seductionology
    It had just about died, the idea that the web was crawling with nerdy men, milquetoasts and sad sacks.

    Ahh yes, the computer. By far the best way to meet people
    But with the publication of two books, both of them focussed on seducing women – and both of them putting on to paper tips and tricks which have been exchanged online – the old canard is back. And little wonder, given weblog posts like the above. It goes on:

    “I’m certain I’ve just become something or somebody new. Or maybe I always have been. A mysoginist (spelling?). Yes, I think, part of me hates women and who they are and how manipulative THEY can be. Yet, I still want to be with them, and feel empty without them.”
    The world of seduction tips recalls the 1920s Charles Atlas adverts targeting wimps on the beach, with the 98lb weakling replaced by an “AFC” (“average frustrated chump”), and with any sense of self-improvement replaced with the idea of tricking women into thinking they like you, backed up with a heady mix of needy self-help manual and credulous business bible.

    WEBLOG WATCH

    Weblog Watch is the BBC News Magazine’s weekly review of blogs
    You learn a new language, and then go out armed with a fake set of personal belongings, an armoury of mild insults (to intrigue your prey) and the support of your buddies – the same guys you’ll be reporting back to as soon as the encounter is over.

    One of the books which has taken this into the mainstream is called The Game: Penetrating The Secret Society Of Pickup Artists; the other is The Layguide: The Rules of the Game. Both refer extensively to online cabals of determinedly-single men, consolidating the old stereotypes in newspapers sold on the idea of an internet conspiracy dedicated to divining the ancient secrets of What Women Want.

    The only problem is that these super-pullers are at best misguided and at worst wholly fictional.

    Meanwhile and undaunted, the blogosphere is filling up with accounts of the efficacy of various of these techniques – many undoubtedly fake, but some genuine and intrigued.

    To search the blogs for terms like “neil strauss” (one of the authors) or “meeting hot women” is to enter a world of pain. Just as raw as the accounts of the unhappy PUAs (“pick-up artists”) are the faux-testimonies doing the same job as the shills and plants of the 1890s snake oil market.

    So, with the callow falling for catchwords like THE MOST DANGEROUS MISTAKE THERE IS WITH WOMEN!, is anyone providing a corrective?

    Well, there are some. Rainy Coast gives an unromanticised depiction of the pick-up artist, recalling that the “men are really competing with each other” and summing it up:

    “Looking back I remember very little about the bedroom. It was more the feeling – of yes, I’ve gotten a woman into bed.”
    while Yudhisthira portrays the damaged womaniser:
    “it was just immaturity, commitment phobia… and the nagging feeling i was missing something…. and here’s to finding the perfect 10……. hope she’ll be happy with a 5″.
    However, even this gloom can be turned into a positive for those making money from seductionology – you should embrace the self-pity, for having been through a phase as a predatory would-be Lothario leaves you ready for real commitment. At least, that’s the spin.

    Who knows, you might actually make friends
    Of course, it doesn’t really matter whether any of this works, since the real targets for a suckering aren’t women at all, but the adolescents and kidults who might buy the MP3s, literature and “seminar courses”. But again, in some parts of frontiersville, such salesmanship is to be admired, whoever it’s directed at: “the rule is simple: use gimmicks and always close.”

    So what does it take to puncture this new supply of hot air?

    Well, as it turns out, and as it might please you to read, there’s a cynicism in the Britblogs that’s resistant to this persiflage, as expressed by Innocent Bystander: “it can be done very easily… just pick someone and ask them, if they say ‘no’, lower your standards slightly and repeat and repeat”.

    A tale of having scored the phone number of a Playboy Playmate is much more likely to meet with a “chinny reckon” than a high-five on this side of the Atlantic, and the big sell flounders when met with the sort of stoicism exhibited by Artegall:

    “I wonder how women feel about all this? Does it make them look stupid and vulnerable? Well, I don’t think these techniques work with all women, and are obviously more likely to work in a Walkabout full of drunk young people than a cocktail party. The point is, it’s not that hard to hook up, and I guess many people knew that anyway.”
    No Rock has the harshest description of the phenomenon (“the unspeakable in pursuit of the untreatable”); perhaps women can rest easy for the moment, confident that all these tricks – from fake holiday snaps to watered-down neurolinguistic programming – aren’t really catching on over here.
    Even if it’s just that we’re not prepared to put our hands in our pockets, that might be a wise response. After all, if a man tries to sell you a con trick, the point of the con is probably to try and get your money.
17. Just lower your standards? says:

    April 10, 2006 at 4:33 am

    THIS is what separates the PUA from the AFC. Look at the advice for the AFC:

    “it can be done very easily… just pick someone and ask them, if they say ‘no’, lower your standards slightly and repeat and repeat”.

    Since when is it romantic to “just pick someone?”

    Sounds like the AFCs over there are just PUAs without standards or shame. Since they don’t want those awful hot women, they can keep the ugly ones and let us “settle.”
18. Geese says:

    April 10, 2006 at 7:43 am

    All I want to know is why when people post crap like this, it’s always at a website where there are no comments allowed…

    This article SCREAMS that this guy can’t get laid and is bitter and angry that there are people out there with the guts to do what he cannot. Just like some of the guys who come here, he rants and raves about how this stuff sucks and doesn’t work, when the reality is he’s just bitter, frustrated and jealous. The difference is, is that he’s getting paid.
19. Lisa says:

    April 11, 2006 at 8:14 am

    i agree with the stuff you posted about neil. he is a big liar. from beginning to ending all he had in mind was making big big money. he does not give a fuck about us. he exposed us and now treats us like his little animal-house.
    neil, karma is going to get you. prepare for that.
20. Thundercat says:

    April 12, 2006 at 1:43 am

    Please help me to get this ugly gooslurper of my blog!

    This is disgusting!

    http://www.myspace.com/insomniaforpyros
21. FreKalika says:

    April 12, 2006 at 12:11 pm

    What the hell are you talking about here, guys?

    Are you talking about Neil, the guy who got experience in 2 years, after he was a VIRGIN, and then we made him number 1 in the world, that BASTARDO?

    Who gives a FUCK about a single PUA, or a single Guru. He is not giving a fuck and he wants to fuck a whole bunch of people.

    Who is going to spank that RETARD?
22. hayley says:

    April 17, 2006 at 3:51 pm

    hey,im looking 4 an old friend dominic heydon?? seen sum pics of him on here and id love 2 hear frm him,so if ne1 can help me out email me! hayleymacneilage@lycos.co.uk

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