How’s Your Current Game?

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Nightblue has a great post up (IMHO) about his current game and what he does to prepare himself for the ladies.

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Results of RSD Beauty Contest

Okay, well, we had a lot of comments on the RSD crew and how “good looking” they are.  So I tallied the results and averaged them together to find out once and for all who is *hot* and who is NOT!  So here’s what the voting breaks down to:

(rounded to the closest decimal point)
Xaneus – 6.9
Tyler Durden – 6.9
Papa – 7.0
PlayboyLA  — 7.8
Dreamweaver – 7.8
The One – 8.0
Twentysix – 8.6
Tari – 9.0

In all fairness, Tari only had one vote (you know who you are!), so take that 9.0 with a grain of salt.

Anyway, the big upset winner of the big PUA Beauty contest is:  TWENTYSIX!  But I’d also like to commend all the guys, who’s average rating is between a 7 and an 8.  Congratulations!  A bunch of guys on the internet think you’re hot.  Mom would be proud.  =)

The Four Best Openers

The incomparable ijjjjji has a post up about his four best openers.

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Neutral Rapport

Some people may have been wondering more about what “Neutral Rapport” from my write-up on TD’s Masters speech. Well, Afc1234 elaborated a bit on TD’s three models of rapport.

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Rick H Quotes

So looking back through my DYD notes, I found some great quotes I jotted down from the Legendary Rick H’s interview during the Master’s seminar, so I thought I’d share them here for you all to learn from.

“It’s not something I do, it’s something I am.”
“Most people don’t have a firm belief in their reality or who they are.”
“I agree with pretty much everything Mystery says.  Except, I DO drink.  Ha, ha, ha…”
“You must be prepared to be the kind of man you want to be.”
“No good deed goes unpunished.”
“Stop focusing on being a nice guy and be a confident guy.”
“Always have a better answer.”
“Every girl is different.  But not THAT different.”
“Oh, is this where you give your little opinion?  Oh, that’s cute.”
“If you can out-battle her in the battle of wits, you got her.”

BOW BEFORE THE MIGHTY RICK H!  WE’RE NOT WORTHY!  WE’RE NOT WORTHY!  (though I’m sure if we drank enough, we’d think differently.  Heh, heh, heh.)

Quote of the Day

I found this one on mASF.  Thought it was funny enough to make "Quote of the Day."

“26 looks like a male version of Avril Lavigne heh!”
–Sirducer

Only you don’t want to SLAP Twentysix!  lol.

DYD Mastery, Day 4, Tyler Durden Recap

Hey all,

Well, I finished typing up the Tyler Durden recap for today, and man, is it a long one!  Loaded with lots of great PUA info for sure!  My brain is offically fried.  Anyway, I realized while typing it up that I had forgotten to do a newsletter for last month, so the idea struck me that I had to make this month’s issue of the Sandbox EXTRA good.  So here’s what I did:

I decided to release the Tyler Durden recap in my next newsletter.

Now, before I hear you guys start groaning, don’t worry.  The newsletter is available RIGHT NOW!  All you have to do is sign up for the newsletter over in the left hand column of the site.  It’s 100% free, loaded with great info, and you can unsubscibe at any time.  I’ll also never sell your personal information or anything like that, so your email is safe with me.  If you’re already a subsciber to the list, you should have Tyler’s recap waiting for you in your mailbox.

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Let me know what you think of the Tyler Recap in the comments section of this blog entry.

Just so you know, David D said that the Masters Series will be out in about two months, so if you haven’t already, be sure to subscribe to his email list so you get the product offer when it’s released!  Remeber, you can’t buy it through his website!  Click here if you want to sign up for his list.  By doing so you get 3 emails a week loaded with tactics for dating and seducing women.

Also, if you guys wouldn’t mind, be sure to e-mail the Double Your Dating Crew and congratulate them on their hard work and for making such a great product come together!  Email them at:  questions@doubleyourdating.com.  If you liked my recaps, be sure to tell them what you liked about them as well!  At the very least, be sure to mention my website.  It’s greatly appreciated!  =)

And now, Introducing… TYLER DURDEN!

Hey guys,

Well, the pictures seemed to go over well. I know that one of the most common emails I got from guys regarding the site were “Do you have any pictures of these guys I can see?” Well, ask and ye shall recieve, gentlemen. I present to you the ringleader of the Real Social Dynamics team, Tyler Durden!

Originally, Tyler did not want his picture out on the internet, even though he’s going to be in an upcoming issue of Rolling Stone Magazine. But he was gracious enough to give me permission to post up not only a pic of him from the seminar, but personal pictures from his own collection on the site!

One note I’d like to make is that Sickboy asked that his face not be shown, so I have blurred him out. He lives a private life and does not want his face out there, so please respect his privacy.

Below are some of Tyler’s personal album pictures.

Okay, so now that you’ve seen all the RSD guys, let’s have a poll! Who do you think is the best looking?

1. Tyler Durden
2. Papa
3. Twentysix
4. The One
5. Dreamweaver
6. PlayboyLA
7. Xaneus

What the hell! If you want, you can even rate them all in terms of looks! Let the rating begin!

Energies of Good & Evil

This post by Tyler isn’t really too focused on tactics, but I think it’s a great post none the less. It has a lot to do with energy and how it affects us and others around us. I don’t know about you guys, but I do believe in energy. I think it’s something that’s present in every day life and you can see it and feel it.

Sure, this pushes the boundary of crazy new-age wu-wu, but regardless, I think there’s some great information in this post. And Tyler’s analytical writing style gives you lots and lots to think about.

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Reverse Shit-Testing

Tyler has a little post up about a Reverse Shit Test he uses that seem pretty cool. It’s a very subtle, but powerful tactic, and one I think worth checking out.

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Being Good Looking

With the recent hub-bub about the pictures on the site and some people saying that these guys are relying on their looks to get chicks, I found it approptiate that Tyler posted a huge thread on being good looking and how it relates to Picking Up women vs. your skillset.

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Some Tyler Lovin’

No, not in the gay way (though I know he wants it! =)

I figured that since I’m devoting an entire recap to everyone’s favorite, red-headed stepchild, I might as well devote the entire day to the guy. So I’m putting up some recent posts of his along with some pictures for all you Tyler Junkies who just can’t seem to get enough!

So here you go all you little space monkies. Enjoy.

DYD Masters Recap, Day 4

Okay guys, here we go again with my last recap of the DYD Masters Seminar.  What a great experience this turned out to be.  Whenever I go to one of these seminars, I always come out feeling like I learned something.  And you do meet interesting people at these things.  That’s one of my favorite parts of going to events such as this, because you always come out having met lots of interesting people, and even a few new friends.

The last day of the Seminar, in my opinion, wasn’t as good as Day 3, but it came awful close, mostly due to Swinggcat and the Real Social Dynamics crew sharing some amazing stuff with the audience.

The Good

The day before, I had heard that Day 4 was going to be nothing but guest speakers, so I was sure to actually show up on time this day (though that was quite an ordeal, seeing as how I was out late with Rick H and crew the night before).  I had enjoyed the guest speakers so much on Day 3, I wanted to make sure I didn’t miss any of the ones presenting on Day 4.

But David D took the stage yet again in the morning to share his last bit of new material with his audience.  The attendees had thinned out a bit on this day, since I’m thinking most of them probably had to catch flights back home so they could be back for work on Monday.  Also, all the RSD boys were absent, probably recovering from the night before.

David D talked about the kind of tests women through at you to make you jump through hoops.  These included the following:

–Acting jealous to make you change how you behave
–Complaining about something you do emotionally
–Using affection or sex as a tool to get what they want and rationing it
–Being unavailable
–Mentioning that other men are interested in her to see how you’ll respond.

He went on to say that women will act differently if you’re one of the guys who “gets it.”  You can say “Stop that stuff” in response to her tests and she’ll know what you mean.  You won’t feel out of control all the time, and she’ll feel more satisfied in general.

He also went on to talk about Universal Problems for Guys when it comes to approaching women.  They are:

–Anxiety approaching women, fear of rejection
–Fear that an attractive woman won’t like them
–Performance anxiety
–Fear of making a physical advance
–Nervousness first talking to a woman or on a first date

One common denominator among most men is them putting too much importance on one specific situation or outcome rather than placing the importance on getting the bigger picture.  David D reminded us that these things are universal.  Almost all men experience them in one way or another.  You need to realize that this stuff is natural and you can overcome it if you want.  The first step to doing so is to stop putting too much importance on any one situation and thinking long term.

David D then went on to outline his key principals for approaching women.  They are:
–Now is better than later (sort of like the 3 second rule)
–Saying anything is better than saying nothing
–It’s all upside, no downside (you lose nothing by approaching a woman)
–If this one doesn’t work, there will be 100 more women later (plenty of fish in the sea)
–At worst, I learn something, and the lessons that are learned are priceless
–Have one default thing ready to say
–If she doesn’t go for you, it’s her loss

If you have an interest in learning more about approaching women, be sure to check out my book The Art of Approaching.

After he finished with his material, David called Orion onto stage.  Some of you may remember Orion from past DYD products, including the Advanced series and the Interview series.  Orion is also one of the old time SS superstars from back in the day, and can also be heard on the BHSC, along with his Magical Connection Videos.

It’s obvious David D and Orion are old friends.  In a seminar where it was evident David D did not have much rapport with his guests, Orion was one of the few he seemed to be able to interact well with on stage (the other two being Rick H and Marie).  David D recounted how he’s seen Orion get up to 25 numbers in one evening, and told the audience how Orion approached one of the actresses who was filming a movie in the hotel a few days before and got a number of pictures with her (I think it was the red-haired chick from That 70’s Show).

Anyway, Orion talked about things to do on dates.  He also talked about his Tarot Cards, and how he likes to use them with girls to escalate things.  The biggest thing I got out of his interview with David D was when Orion said “Any limitation can be seen as a huge advantage.”  I think this is good stuff because so many people look at their limitations as barriers, whereas when looked at a different light, they can actually be beneficial.

Orion’s interview wasn’t all that long, so I don’t have much to write about when it comes to it.  He did pass out his own Tarot Cards that he designed and used on dates, and they were pretty cool.  They even have little poems on them you can read to the girl which explains what the card means.   Orion also offers personal seduction coaching through his website and offered to give DYD attendees a special discount off his tarot deck.

The next guest up on stage was Swinggcat.  At first, David D started interviewing him like he was doing with Orion, but once it became clear that Swinggcat wasn’t going to give David a chance to talk (He’s up there with Mystery when it comes to hogging the stage =) David walked off and let Swinggcat run the show.

Swinggcat talked about his Kill Bill metaphor about how there are two types of guys with women:  The Worker Bee, and The Renegade Killer Bee.  He said that in order to be good with women, you have to be a Renegade Killer Bee.

He went on to elaborate that most people have shortcomings that make you believe you can’s succeed with women, and that’s the Worker Bee mentality where men are trying to please women into looking past those shortcomings and liking them.

He said this mentality is because most men don’t know what attraction is.  He went on to define attraction as “It’s what women respond to, not what they prefer.”  The harsh truth of the matter, he said, is that women prefer tall, dark, and handsome guys with big dicks.  But that’s not necessarily what they may respond to.  Women respond to your actions and your communication, so there are things you can do to create attraction, even if you’re not what she prefers.

Swinggcat elaborated that if you can create the emotion in her that she is constantly wanting and reaching for more of you, you define yourself as the one who is the PRIZE in the interaction.

Swingg also touched on belief systems and why they are important.  He echoed the thoughts of many other guest speakers at the seminar by saying “Our beliefs become our reality.”  He also talked about the importance of having a strong intent when talking to women.  Having that desire to do whatever it takes to achieve your intended outcome and having the belief that can happen is the key to being successful in life and with women.

He then went on to share exercises for creating a strong intent, and how he will visualize women he’s talking to as feeling sexual tension and being attracted to him, and that because that’s his frame, women will go along with it.  He then touched on Frames and Metaframes, and said that within every interaction, people’s actions have an underlying meaning, which is defined as the “frame” of the interaction.

Now it was time for Swinggcat to talk about traits women like.  He said that women like guys with extremely high standards, because it gives them a model to strive to live up to.  He talked about a routine he has to communicate this to women, that goes as follows:

“Are you adventurous?  Are you spontaneous?  If you were in kissing school, what grade would your kissing teacher give you?”  (get her answer) “Let’s find out.” (kiss her)

He explained that this technique works because he gets her to ratify that she’s adventurous and spontaneous, then if she backs out of the kiss, she’s seen as a liar and incongruent.  After you’re done kissing her, he’ll then give her a grade that’s lower than the one she gave herself, to get her to qualify to him and communicate that he’s the one judging her and therefore has the high standard.

He also said that women like guys who challenge them.  Anything you can do to get a woman to qualify to you is a good thing, because that’s when they are wanting and reaching for your approval (after all, you’re the one who’s setting the challenge).

And finally, he said that women like guys who have a strong reality.  How do you have a strong reality?  By defining the underlying meaning of the interaction as you being the prize.  You also want to control the frame.  You know you’re controlling the frame because you’ll be the person doing the least work in the interaction (ie:  they’re the one’s trying to engage you).  Swingg elaborated that you want to focus on yourself and give the woman directions and take a strong lead.  You want to bring them into your story.  You do this by taking the spotlight in the interaction and not asking too many questions.  He said you always want to bring her into your world when you meet a woman.

If you’re interested in finding out more about Swinggcat and his method and philosophy on picking up women, be sure to check out his website realworldseduction.com.  You can also email him at swinggcat@realworldseduction.com

After Swinggcat came a guest speaker I was not familiar with.  His real name was Eric, but he goes by “Hypnotica,” and is a friend of Steve Piccus, the unsung godfather of the seduction community.  A lot of the concepts that Steve Piccus developed were the basis of a great many things we now take for granted.

Hypnotica really lived up to his name.  The guy is the very definition of a Man.  He reminded me of Wolverine from the X-Men movies.  He had an extremely large presence, and when he was up on stage, he OWNED the room.  Hypnotica is a hypno-therapist, and talked a great deal about energy and other wu-wu stuff.  But when he talked about it, it actually made a lot of sense.  In a way, it reflected what Amber had shared with the seminar on Day Two, but was much more relatable due to Hypnotica’s stage presence.

He talked about how masculine energy is nothingness, and feminine energy is love, and how the ultimate goal of the feminine is to open up the infinite and embrace the nothingness of the male.  He described anxiety as misused energy, and how you have to give yourself the flexibility to fail.

He talked about the mediocre man’s existence, and how mediocre men enjoy nothingness.  Then women enter in, and the mediocre man buys into their energy.  They move to the masculine extreme of nothingness and lose their way.

Hypnotica described the job of the man as opening up the woman to nothingness and God.  He said in order to do this, you must know your life’s purpose and take time to practice and think about life.

I know in reading this, you guys are probably thinking “this sounds like complete bullshit,” and in reading it myself, I agree with you.  But Hypnotica’s presence was so powerful, you could FEEL what he was getting at when he talked about this.  I really believe this will come through if his section makes it onto the final product.

To give you an idea how powerful his presence is, I’ll share an anecdote with you from the seminar.  At one point, an attendee got up and asked a question.  The attendee was rambling a bit, and Hypnotica boomed out “STOP!  What is your purpose?”  The guy froze, and tried to answer, but again, Hypnotica replied “STOP!  What is your purpose?”  His presence was so powerful, the attendee started shaking and tried to reply.  Again, Hypnotic said to him “STOP!  WHAT IS YOUR PURPOSE!”  Seriously, everyone thought the attendee was going to cry.  It reminded me of a scene from the movie Fight Club where Brad Pitt has a convenience store clerk on his knees with a gun to his head, and changes the guy’s reality.  That’s what Hypnotica did.  He pulled the guy’s life purpose right out of him and gave him a powerful direction to move in.  it was quite powerful.

Then, Steve Piccus took the stage, and the two men took the seminar through a guided visualization layered with hypnotic suggestions.  It was quite a relaxing part of the seminar, and Hypnotica told a great story involving a hunter, a unicorn, and a lion that will be important later on in the recap.  This was a very trippy presentation, and had I been high, I’m sure it would have changed my life.  As it was, I just ended up falling asleep.  Whether that was from the hypnosis or the lack of sleep the night before, I’ll probably never know.

If you’re interested in learning more about Hypnotica and Steve Piccus, and their form of radical hypnotherapy, you can check out their websites.  You can find out more about Hypnotica at www.hypnotica.org and visit Steve Piccus’s homepage at www.stevepiccus.com.  I highly recommend you guys check both of these things out, especially if you have an interest in hypnosis and NLP.

So next up was the big coup de grace for the seminar, and that is the Real Social Dynamics crew!  David D got up on stage and gave a big buildup for the guys, then introduced Tyler Durden, who told everyone about RSD and what they’re up to and what they’re about.  He then introduced PlayboyLA, who took the stage.

PlayboyLA was probably the most profound of the RSD guest speakers.  If there was a guy out there who didn’t know anything about this stuff, he’s have been wowed by PlayboyLA’s speech.  First thing PlayboyLA did was do an entire 10 minute set with nothing but canned material.  It was extremely smooth and polished from one story to the other, and he performed it as if he was sarging an HB on sunset.  He also spun an impromptu routine from the story about the hunter, the unicorn, and the lion Hypnotica shared with the group.  It was truly a sight to see, and really set the bar high for the other presenters who came after him.

PlayboyLA talked about building Material and Routines.  He said that at the beginning stage, you want to keep your material light and fun and short.  For the middle game, you want to keep to cocky/funny routines for the attraction phase, but as you pass into the comfort phase, you want to make them longer, keep them funny, but they have to start demonstrating personality and give a glimpse into your  life, while opening the way for you to start light kino.  For the end game, he said your routines have to build a connection with the girl and lead them into a more sexual/seduction mindset, while you escalate things both physically and emotionally.

He said that you MUST build tension when doing your routines in order to get attraction, and to reframe everything the girl says so it’s cocky/funny and you’re leading the process.

PlayboyLA’s talk was fantastic, and gave a lot of great information.  It was a real highlight of Day 4.  Next up, he introduced the one, the only… PAPA!

Papa hopped up on stage and talked briefly about how to be an effective wingman.  Papa isn’t much of a public speaker though, so he seemed a little awkward up there, but held his own well.  Most of his talk was on lifestyle, and how the RSD crew lives their lives.  He talked about Project Hollywood, which he said has been upgraded to Project Mayhem (a-la Fight Club) where they’re trying to get guys around the world to get awesome houses close to their city’s nightlife so they can life the life of the Pick-Up Artist.  I won’t be surprised if Papa’s talk got cut, because though it was interesting, it shared little in the way of tips and tactics that would be useful for the guy who wants to learn to get better than women, so don’t be surprised if it’s not in the final product.

Next up was The One and his regular wingman Dreamweaver, also known as RSD’s “Top Gun Wings.”  The took the stage with great gusto and energy, and their entire talk centered around what it means to be a good wingman and help your buddy score.  I found this talk to be extremely interesting, since they had a great deal of fantastic information to help guys support each other while in set.

The talked about how wingmen have to have rules, and that you and your wingman need to know the rules before interacting with women so you’re not stepping on each other’s feet and getting upset with each other.  They said the first rule of a good wing is:

“Whoever opens a set, controls the set, and gets his choice of the target.”

That means, the guy who does the hard work and opens the set not only gets to pick the girl he goes after, but he also takes the lead in the set.  So the wingman is there to support him, and tackle any UGS or Obstacles within the set.

Probably the most important thing The One and Dreamweaver had to share was that you have to act like your wing is the coolest guy ever.  You have to make him out to be simply AWESOME, just as cool as you are.  They also said that you should always laugh at what your wing thinks is funny, which is really important in supporting your wing.  Act like he is the funniest, coolest guy in the world.  Always support your wing.

I got a lot of great stuff from The One and Dreamweaver’s talk, and it is really important for you guys out there who go out with other guys on a regular basis to sarge to learn this stuff.  There’s lots more, but I won’t go into detail here (buy the product, fellas), but I will say this is a part of the presentation where I got a lot of new tactics from.

Next up was a real treat, not just for me, but the audience as well, and that was from the TWO-MOTHERFUCKING-DASH-SIX!!!!  Yes, that’s right ladies and gentlemen, we’re not worthy!  We’re not worthy!  We are in the presence of the one and only Twentysix!!!

Twentysix took the stage and instantly lived up to all the hype that surrounds him.  Not only is Twentysix the most genuine guy out there, but he is also one of the funniest!  If you guys have not picked up his interview with David D yet, you need to do that NOW!

So Twentysix took the stage and instantly had the audience roaring with laughter.  He talked about how he goes out four times a week, and if you want to get good, you gotta start approaching regularly.  But the biggest part of his talk was on roleplaying and using props.  He talked about how you want to roleplay that the girl is a total dweeb and you’re the coolest guy in the world.

He used a cigarette case to act like it was the girl, and talked in a very funny “girl voice” making it sound like the chick is completely retarded.  He also said a fun thing to do is grab something, pretend it’s a microphone, and sing a song about the girl.  He demonstrated with a spoon and bounced around the stage singing…

“Marry… Marry is retard-ed… my name’s Mary and I’m a lose-er!  Look at me, I’m a loser and my name’s Mar-ry!”

That’s not a direct quote, but you get the picture.  When Twentysix did it, it was funny, trust me.  He also likes to do that when a girl’s on a cell phone.  He’ll go up beside them, act like he’s on a cell phone, and imitate the girl.  But when he talks on his phone, he’ll say stuff in his “girl voice” like “Meeeehhhh!  I’m stupid!  My name’s Mary and I’m stupid!”

He also likes to play games with girls.  One of them is “Fuck, Marry, Kill” which is a game he got from listening to the Howard Stern show.  You play it by pointing out three guys in the club and telling her “You have to fuck one of them, marry one of them, and kill one of them.  Which one would you do what to?”

He’ll also do stuff like ask a girl for her cell phone and start playing games on it in front of her.  He also likes to play slap hands with girls, and give them noogies and Indian sunburns and other stupid stuff.  Twentysix was also big on recall humor, and said to keep bringing up stuff that was funny earlier in the interaction, because it’s still gonna be funny (and creates a connection by putting it in the realm of “in joke”).

He also shared a real novel way to use your cell phone, and how your cell phone, as a prop, can be your best wingman ever.  You can act like you are the MAN on the cell phone, walk around the club demanding outrageous stuff on the cell, like you’re having a really intense conversation:

“No, you tell Spielberg you shove it!  This movie is getting made TOMORROW!”

He also said that if you’re at a club alone, instead of just sitting in a corner with your drink, whip out your cell and act like you’re talking on it.  It will make you look less pathetic, because it’s natural to be alone when talking on the phone.

Twentysix had other great things to share, and introduced Xaneus before leaving the stage.

For those of you who don’t know who Xaneus is, he’s one of the guy’s living at Project Hollywood.  Well, not really.  He actually lives in a tent in Project Hollywood’s backyard.  I hereby dub him with the new nick-name “Nature Boy X.”

Anyway, Xaneus takes the stage and talks about application of cocky/funny stuff.  He shared a few anecdotes of pick-ups he’s done.  He was pretty awkward on stage though, and kept breathing into his microphone.  After a while, it sounded like Darth Vader was in the room (only this time, it sounded more like “Pooo-Ahh, Poo-Ahh” when he breathed).  I don’t think Xaneus will be kept in the final product because his talk was light on tactics in addition to all the audio problems caused by him breathing into the mic.

Lastly was Sickboy, the last superstar of RSD.  Sickboy has also done an interview with David D, and had a very laid back presentation on stage.  He talked about the picture routine, and how you take self-portraits with girls.  He also talked about how powerful it is to make fun of a girl’s mannerisms (Best Friends Test, Girl Code, Accusing them of having ADD).  He also talked about Body Language, and how you want to be laid back and approaching at an angle.  He shared that the best way to get women engaged really quickly is to bust on them.

Sickboy wasn’t on stage for too long, because much of the typical RSD tactics had already been covered.  He entertained a question or two before leaving the stage.

If you’re interested in RSD or want to take a workshop of your own (they also offer seminars and personal coaching), be sure to check them out by clicking here.  As a side note, if you sign up for there stuff through my site, I get a commission, so share the love!

The Bad

Not too much bad on Day Four as the seminar was winding down.  I found Orion’s interview to be a bit unstructured and lacking any substantial information, but a DYD seminar without Orion is like going to a movie without popcorn.  It’s just unnatural.

Some of the people had a hard time with Hypnotica’s presentation, probably because the sour taste of the Amber experience was still fresh in their mouths.  But a lot of people were more tolerant of what Hypnotica had to say.  Many agreed that Hypnotica’s speech before the guided visualization was actually really good and had a lot of interesting stuff in it.  It was kind-of weird to see such a manly guy talk about wu-wu stuff though.

As I mentioned before, both Papa’s and Xaneus’s talks will probably be cut because they didn’t have much good information in them that can be applied to people outside the community.

One thing I was surprised about was how much the RSD crew actually shared with the audience.  I was actually sinking in my seat at certain points because they were giving away such good stuff (and stuff I use regularly).  Before long, we’re gonna have thousands of guys using David Bowie, Best Friends Test, Who Lies More, etc., etc.  I wish they had given away some new stuff so I wouldn’t have to go out and learn some new routines, damn them!

The Ugly

Not a whole lot of ugly this day either.  I overheard David D talking to someone about how he was worried that Hypnotica and Steve Piccus’s thing was wierding out the audience.  The friend David D was talking to joked about why Steve Piccus always has to talk about unicorns in some fashion or another.

The biggest Ugly of the day was Rick H making fun of the RSD guys on stage.  He could be seen in the back of the room making quips about them, and later on in the hallway (particularly about Xaneus living in a tent, but hey the guys still gets laid, so what does that say about his skill?  YOU GO NATURE BOY X!!!!).  Of course, after hanging out with Rick the night before, I realize this is just Rick, who busts everyone’s balls.  Of course, there might be a twinge of jealousy there, but oh well.

One of the things I was surprised to learn was how much Hypnosis/NLP stuff PlayboyLA uses in his material.  I talked to him about it afterwards and he revealed to me that he had a background in SS before he got into RSD.  After seeing him in action a few times, I can say without a doubt that PlayboyLA is the only person I’ve seen who can combine so many different styles of pick-up so successfully.  Probably one of the reasons he’s so good!

There were also rumors of a drug-induced outing after the seminar involving one of the Guest Speakers, but I won’t mention who that was since I wasn’t there to see it for myself.

David X also showed up after the seminar ended and mingled with a few of the guys for a while.

My Experience

It was a bittersweet ending to the DYD Master’s Seminar for me.  I had a great time and loved meeting and hanging out with everyone there.  It was like a big vacation for me.  But I was also exhausted and looking forward to getting back to my normal life.

After the seminar, Mystery, Herbal, Little Big Dick, and a friend of Herbal’s all went out to dinner.  We were eventually joined by Dreamweaver and The One, and had a great meal while unwinding from the weekend’s events.

Overall, this seminar was really, really good.  The quality of the speakers was mixed, but the good certainly outweighed the bad.  In the finished product, I’m sure the wheat will be separated from the chaff.  I can’t wait to see how the finished product ends up, and I think it will be a great resource for everyone looking to take their game to the next level.  I can’t wait to see it for myself, and look forward to doing a review of it for my site.  David D told everyone that the Masters Series would probably be out in about two months, and will go for around $400 for audio and around $500 for the DVDs.  Personally, I think it’s a fair price for the wealth of information that will be in this series.  Hell, the Mystery, Swinggcat, and RSD portions are worth the price alone.

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A Special Note

Okay, I know a lot of you are thinking “But wait, what about Tyler?  Didn’t he speak at the seminar?”  Well, my answer to that is yes.  Yes he did.

“But Thundercat, where’s Tyler’s recap?”

Well guys, Tyler’s presentation was so big, so good, so amazing, that I have literally pages and pages of notes.  As I was writing this recap out, I looked down and thought “Fuck, there’s just too much here.”  So I decided to split things up a bit.  Tomorrow, Friday, May 7th, I’ll be posting a total recap of everything that Tyler covered at the Masters Series in as much detail as I can, so check back here for some stuff that will LITERALLY blow your mind!

To Be Concluded…

DYD Masters Recap, Day 3

Okay, more DYD stuff for all of you today, and you’re in for a special treat.

As I said before, I thought Day 1 was really good, but Day 2 was horrible.  However, in my opinion, Day 3 was the best of the best, and really blew any other seminar/product/what have you out of the water in my opinion.  Why?  Because of three things:

1.  Mystery
2.  Rick H
3.  Major Mark Cunningham

That’s right!  On Day three, you had the clash of the titans take the stage!  The Trifecta of ultimate PUA knowledge in the universe was present at the DYD Masters seminar and in my opinion, totally REDEFINED what it means to be a master!  You have Mystery, arguably the best pick-up artist in the world.  You have the legendary Rick H, who’s prowess and exploits with women has yet to be matched, and you have Major Mark Cunningham, probably the leading hypnotist out there when it comes to restructuring belief systems.

After the horror that was Day 2, Day 3 comes in and totally redeems the Masters Seminar and sets the stage for what is to come.

So without further ado, onto Day 3 recap…

The Good

After Day 2, I really wasn’t that jazzed about going back to the seminar, but I knew that it was going to get better from here on out just because of the quality of the guest speakers that were going to take the stage.  David D took the stage in the morning and revealed even more of his material, which was actually pretty racy, as I think he was gearing up for the speakers who were about to present some mind-blowing stuff.

David D talked about dominance, and the look of the killer.  He discussed Sexual Communication as a primal way of communicating, using body language, voice tone, and abstract patterns of behavior.  How it triggers strong physical and emotional responses directly, without the use of logic or reasoning.

He talked about elements of sexual communication, those being:  Honest Signals, Status, Liking, how Super-Sized Friendship won’t work, and how Logic and Reasoning are the enemy.

He then talked about a four step process for Sexual Communication and how to gradually increase it.  The first step is sparking attraction, the second is building sexual tension, the third is amplifying the attraction, and the fourth is physically advancing.

After David D finished talking about this, we breaked for lunch.  People were definitely in better spirits than the day before.  Swinggcat, Little Big Dick, one of the seminar attendees, and I all went to lunch and came back to the seminar refreshed and ready to go.

Mystery hadn’t been there in the morning, but when we came back, I saw him in the seminar room getting ready to go on stage.  He was conspicuous in his “Non-Peacock” attire, instead wearing a nice business suit with his hair long, falling on his shoulders.  He was, however, wearing his Amsterdam cowboy boots, so he wasn’t completely conforming.

I shook his hand briefly and wished him luck, then got ready to take a buttload of notes because I knew Mystery was gonna get rolling once up on stage.  After everyone took their seats, David D got up on stage and gave Mystery a really great introduction.  Mystery hopped up on stage and instantly owned the room, and David D let him have the stage all to himself.  The first thing he did was some slight of hand with some Listerine breath strips while talking about who he was (disappearing breath strips, mystery, get it?).

As Mystery got into his spiel, I almost forgot I was at a DYD seminar.  Mystery’s presentation style is so animated and funny and interesting that you just get lost in what he shares with you.  He was up on stage with spotlights glaring, using the oversized easel-pads to write on, and for a minute, you began to think that this was Mystery’s seminar and not David D’s.  This is where he belonged, on stage in front of hundreds of people.  Obviously, he’s had a lot of practice being a magician, but his energy as a public speaker is amazing, and lets you know the potential he has to be a real force in the self-help market.

Mystery talked about the fallacy of “being yourself.”  He told the audience that if what you’re doing isn’t working, you need to change yourself so that it IS working.

He then wrote out his model for pick-up on stage.  For those of you who don’t know how Mystery Method breaks down, its really intricate, but for the initial pick-up, it’s a three step method:

Attraction –> Comfort –> Seduction

Mystery talked about the mistakes most guys do when picking up a woman, and how you need to follow a linear course of action when doing so if you want to successfully get her. 

He started by talking about Seduction, and how if you start with seduction, you rely on fool’s mate to get laid (ie;  Getting “Lucky”).  By skipping attraction and comfort, you might be able to get a chick, but you’ll encounter a lot of last minute resistance and high buyer’s remorse.  Mystery talked about how most guys just want to get to the Seduction stage fast and ignore everything else.  He went on to elaborate…

Mystery:  “I see two problems with this way of thinking.  And that’s “Speed” and “Seduction.”

At that, everyone cracked-up.  Huge laughter and applause.  Of course, you could see David DeAngelo visibly cringe in the back of the room at this joke.  Mystery made a few other references to SS and MINE’99 during his talk, and each time it looked like David D had gotten punched in the fuckin’ face, Jlaix style, knowing he’s going to have to figure out a way to cut that stuff out of his final product.

Mystery talked about comfort, and how every AFC uses that stage to try and get a girl.  Women deal with this stage all the time, and have protection (or “bitch”) shield issues with it.

He then spoke about how you need to start off every interaction with a girl with attraction, and after attraction you must qualify her by asking her questions.

But as important as attraction is, Mystery pointed out that the game is played in the “Comfort” stage of the interaction, and that it usually takes 7 hours from meet to close (ie: sex).  That’s an average.  It can take anywhere between 4 to 10 hours, but usually 7 (6 hours of which are in Comfort).

He went on to break down his method like this:

Attraction + Comfort = Seduction

Each phase has three smaller stages.

Mystery Method

Attraction
1.  Open
2.  Female to Male Attract (Make the woman attracted to us first)
3.  Male to Female Attract (Find out what qualities she possesses and then use those to tell her you’re attracted to her)

Comfort
4.  Comfort 1 (Build Rapport)
5.  Comfort 2 (Go for phone number, build intimacy, hand holing, kino, etc)
6.  Comfort 3 (Heavy intimacy, kissing, making out)

Seduction
7.  Arousal
8.  Last Minute Resistance
9.  Sex

Mystery said because of time, he’s only going to focus on “Opening” and “Female to Male Attract” phase.  The first thing he talked about was Opening.  Mystery said that on the average, groups of 3 (3-sets) are the best to open.  You have to initiate the chat in a way where you don’t alienate the men/ugs/friends of your target.

Mystery then called Tyler Durden up to the stage to demonstrate a few “canned” Openers.  Tyler came up and did the David Bowie Opener and one other one (forget what it was).  Tyler and Mystery then got into a fake AMOG battle on stage which was amusing to those that knew what they were doing, but confusing to everyone else.  Mystery got in the last word as Tyler sat back down at his seat.

Mystery then took that opportunity to plug my book, The Art of Approaching, and said that he recommends it to anyone who wants to get good at Opening.  This was extremely flattering to me, and I hope David D keeps it in his final product, as I could use the advertising, lol.

Mystery also took the opportunity to brag about Mystery’s Lounge, and how it’s a message board with around 80 of the best Ladies Men in the world all exchanging ideas and tactics on success with women, business, and health.  If that makes it into the final product, you can bet there will be billions of searches for Mystery’s Lounge and people begging to get in.  Makes those of us who are members feel more than a little self-important, I admit.  =)

The next step to Opening was to install a “plotline.”  Basically, Mystery said that you want to convince others that you and the target don’t get along.  By not getting along with your target, you engage the others in the group.  He also spoke about how you have to have your own style.  He recommended being enthusiastic about what you talk about (enthusiasm is contagious).  You have to possess a strong identity and convey that Identity quickly.

The most important thing Mystery said was that you have to practice your skills out in the field.  He said some routines are too long to Open with, so you start with short ones and move into longer ones.  He made the distinction that you are a performing artist and have to get good at delivering your material before your audience.

Now, I have, literally, 6-7 pages of notes on what Mystery covered, and what he was talking about was SO good, that David D gave him some extra time on stage.  Mystery got into comfort building and a variety of other topics, but I’m not gonna get into them here.  You can get the full range of what Mystery talked about when the Masters product comes out, or you can sign up for a Mystery Method Seminar at www.mysterymethod.com.  You can also e-mail Herbal T, Mystery’s business partner, at herbal@mysterymethod.com.

Mystery had a huge round of applause after getting off stage.  Next up, David D had another female come and join him on stage.  This woman actually WAS Marie, from his interview series, who wrote the book “How to Make Women Like You.”  This interview was very different from the Amber one.  For once, David D actually seemed to have RAPPORT with one of his guests (novel idea, I know, lol).  Marie and David were completely at ease with each other and actually had some playful banter going.

David talked about how he was contacted by Marie and how their relationship grew over the phone.  He also recounted how he first met her in New York at the bar she worked at, and an intentionally cheesy pick-up he did on her to introduce himself.  It was a funny little anecdote, and set the stage for the interview.

Listening to Marie talk was a breath of fresh air after the miserableness that was Amber.  Marie really seemed to understand the male way of thinking and was able to bridge the gap between that and her female sensibilities really well.  She talked about how a lot of women out there have low-self esteem and are looking for relationships.

One of her tips was that you should take age into consideration when trying to get a woman.  The older women go for relationship stuff much easier than the younger girls who are more interested in partying.

She said that nothing is more attractive than a man with a strong sense of self.  Usually, women don’t know where guys are coming from or where they stand on what they believe in.  They want someone who’s clear about his values, how he spends his time, and what he believes in.  Being able to systematically convey who you are conveys integrity (which made more sense than Amber’s “pushing through honey” exercise to bring that forth).

She also discussed that women notice details, like shoes.  And that if you ever want to engage a woman in conversation, just talk about shoes since it’s a favorite subject of many women.

She also discussed that nothing is more qualifying to women than having other women around you.  If you have lots of female friends, the woman you’re with is going to be more insecure and try harder to make you happy.  If she’s the only woman in your life, you start to look less attractive in the long run.

Again, I got lots of stuff on this, but I can’t get to it all here.  If you’re interested in hearing more of what Marie has to say (and its good stuff), you can buy her book, or better yet, buy the Masters Series when it comes out in a few months.

So after a quick break, now it was time for a special, special treat.  That of the Legendary RICK H!!!!!!

Some of you may recognize Rick H from the DYD Advanced Series.  Rick H was also a big star in the SS world, which is where his legend status really grew.  Rick H was known for having some mad skills with bisexual women, and is on the record as having gotten 5 women into bed at the same time.

When I first saw Rick, I was surprised.  I remember seeing a picture of him back in 2000, and he had gained a little weight since then.  But as soon as he started talking, it was the same old Rick we all know and love.

David D got up on stage and started interviewing his long time friend and former room mate.  Rick talked a lot about his amazing philosophy on how to get good with women, but I won’t go into that here (buy the product, fellas).  But the real meat of his interview was his talk on how he gets Bisexual women.

Mystery asked Rick to elaborate on his process of how to pick-up bisexual chicks and get them into threesomes.

The first thing that Rick said is that “All women are bisexual.” (which he undoubtedly got from that PUA wiz Tari)  But that there is a labeling issue and most women don’t want to be called bisexual.  He said the reason for this is that most guys make a big deal about a woman being into girls, and he says don’t do that.  Treat the fact that she’s bisexual the same way you’d treat the fact that she knows how to cook.  If you’re comfortable with it and you can speak about it like it’s not a big deal and it’s natural, then it is.

Rick said that he’s at a stage where he won’t even ask the girls if they’re bisexual.  He’ll just ask them “What kind of girls do you like?”  Again, if it’s not a big deal to you, it won’t be to them.

He said the biggest mistake most men make is that they’ll rush into a threesome.  He said that the primary partner has to feel comfortable she’s not gonna get dumped when she brings a girl home for you.  Make sure she understands she’s the primary in the relationship, and that you can’t pay more attention to the second girl.  If you pay more attention to your primary and she’s comfortable, she’s gonna want to do it more because there’s good emotions attached to it.  Rick says don’t worry about pleasing the other girl, just make sure the primary is pleased.

He then went into his steps for getting bisexual women.  I won’t get too in depth here because of time, space, and energy, but it can all be found in the Masters Series when it comes out.  Basically, Rick’s process is:

1.  Ask the question “Are you bisexual”
2.  Get her to point out girls she thinks are cute
3.  Set the frame you’re someone who enjoys the fantasy with her.
4.  Talk about her past experiences with women
5.  Make this a fantasy for HER
6.  Establish a relationship with the primary and then find a secondary girl
7.  Don’t get jealous or insecure

After Rick was done, Major Mark got up on stage.  His talk was ALL about beliefs and trance work.  It was funny, because up on stage, I felt like I was listening to MINE’99.  It’s like they have the same speech patterns.  I was instantly catching all the weasel phrases, imbedded commands, and anchors Major Mark was using in his speech.

Major Mark was also cursing enough to make a sailor blush.  Every other word was “fuck” or “fucking.”  But he had such an energy on stage that no one really minded the potty mouth.

The good Major talked about state control, and that if you have an handle on state control, at any given time you can feel any emotion you want.  So if you’re feeling bad, if you can control your state, you can instantly slip into feeling good.  He said the trick to this is being outside your head and feeling calm, relaxed, and playful (all of which he presented as imbedded commands, btw).

He went on to discuss Limiting Beliefs.  He said that everyone only has 1 limiting belief, and that is that they believe there are things called “limiting beliefs.”  He said beliefs don’t exist, rather, they are thought forms that were not in existence until you created them.  He said you CHOOSE to have a limiting belief, and that every moment of the day, all you’re doing is rehearsing that limitation.

Major Mark says that you are in direct control of what you believe, and that it only takes you 1 time to learn something.  If it takes you more than once to learn something, you’re learning the wrong thing.  For instance, he asked if you’ve ever touched a hot stove, and then asked how many times it took you to learn not to touch a hot stove.  Once.  Point illustrated.

He said “Don’t practice failing.  Practice success.  If you go into trance (imbedded command) and practice success (another imbed), it will work (future projection).”

Major Mark also talked about trance work, and how reality is infinitely malleable.  I’d go deeper into what he talked about, but I’m afraid I wouldn’t do it justice (plus, this review is getting crazy long!).  I know Major Mark has another seminar coming up soon.  You can find out more information on his website www.trucor.com.  I highly suggest any of you dealing with inner game issues or those of you interested in hypnosis/NLP check it out.  Let him know you heard about him from Thundercat’s Seduction Lair.

The Bad

There was very little bad this day, since the guest speakers were all so amazing and David D seemed to be finding his stride and getting relaxed presenting material.  One thing was that David D spent most of the morning on Day 3 doing damage control over Amber and explaining to the audience why what she was saying was relatable to life and dating.  Many of the students began to understand why he had her in the seminar, but almost everyone would have liked it if David had presented this material BEFORE Amber took the stage.

Another bad, and this is just a personal one, was that I wish Rick H had more stage time.  I would have liked it if David had gotten him to talk about more of his exploits and philosophy with women, since it was so fascinating.  But I hear he plans on interviewing him for his Interview Series, so maybe it’ll get more in depth there.

The Ugly

Not a whole lot of Ugly, but some noteworthy ones.  The first of which was Mystery’s AMOG battle with Tyler up on stage.  I don’t think Mystery was consciously doing it, but he really tooled Tyler up there.  First of all, he got Tyler up on stage and made him his performance monkey by telling him to recite Openers for the crowd.  It seemed like Tyler may have been a bit apprehensive doing it, but he did so anyway.  Mystery definitely had the power in the dynamic on stage, and this wasn’t more apparent than when the AMOGing started.

At first, Mystery had the upper hand in the AMOG battle, but Tyler quickly recovered and started tooling Mystery and his presentation.  Mystery then said Tyler wins the battle, kicked him off stage, then got in the last word once he had the stage back to himself.  I don’t think it was a malicious thing, or intentional on Mystery’s part.  I read it that he was so comfortable on stage, that he was just goofing around with a friend of his (they do this sort of thing all the time in private).  However, it was obvious Tyler was aware that this was being recorded for posterity and didn’t want to get into it with Mystery.

I think this little exchange also affect Tyler’s final presentation, because Mystery set such a power standard, that up on stage, even though RSD and Tyler are now the stars of DYD, Tyler looked second fiddle to Mystery.  When I talked to Mystery about this later on, he told me that wasn’t his intention when he did it, but that’s how it came off looking like in the long run in my humble opinion.

Another little tid-bit of gossip was that there were a number of RSD guys at the seminar on Saturday for Day 3.  Sickboy, The One, Xaneus, PlayboyLA, and Papa were all present, in addition to Twentysix, Orion, and Tyler.  Of special note were the “mini-Papas” also known as the RSD interns.

At one point, The One and Twentysix were outside the seminar room manning the table for the RSD workshop sign up, which was opposite the DYD seminar check-in table being manned by one of David D’s employees.  In true form, The One and Twentysix were talking about jerking off, and the various tactics they employ in doing so.  The One prefers a vitamin rich lube full of vitamins A, C, and D.  “Not only is it practical, but it enriches your cock at the same time,” The One was quoted as saying.  Twentysix, disagreed, and prefers to go after his rodney dry, focusing on the head and pumping furiously.  Of course, this discussion escalated into a debate about which method of flounder pounding was better, and seemed to offend the DYD employee manning the door.  He complained to David D, who in turn scolded The One and Twentysix about jerking off in public places.

Also of note, when Marie was speaking, she kept talking about how every one wants to find “The One.”  Meaning, of course, that one special man.  However, we all joked about the RSD instructor, The One, who’s nick-name finally made sense after years of everyone making fun of him for employing a third person imperative as his nic.  It seems The One is very popular among the ladies world wide.  =)

During the Major Mark speech, a few former SSers had to leave the room.  I guess either they didn’t want to go into trance while listening to him, or there were too many negative anchors associated to the NLP stuff.

After the seminar ended, major Mark and Steve Piccus did an impromptu seminar on belief work that seemed to go over well.  I’m told it lasted 4 hours and those who attended really got a lot out of it.

One thing I was surprised to learn was that PlayboyLA, one of the RSD Superstars (and an AMAING pick-up artist in his own right.  Seriously, this guy gives Tyler a run for his money) was a former student of Major Mark.  Very interesting.

My Experience

Damn, this is already a long article.  And it’s about to get longer, considering I had some extremely interesting experiences this day.

I showed up late for the seminar (yet again) after a late night of drinking and sarging with my friends the night before, so I missed all the “damage control” talk David went through that morning.

But the fun really didn’t begin until after the seminar ended.  That night, I went out to dinner with a big group of people from the seminar.  Those present were:  Mystery, Swinggcat, Merovingian, Herbal T, Little Big Dick, Craig, a few other guys from the seminar, and the Legendary Rick H.  We all went to P.F.Changs, which is a Chinese restaurant in the Santa Monica area and had a big dinner.  It was fun to see all these big time PUAs eating, laughing, and joking around with each other.  Good times had by all, and no egos involved either (very different from the first night’s VIP dinner).  It was all about having fun and being friends.

Of course, a few people started drinking at dinner and were getting rather tipsy as time went on, but that’s to be expected.  Herbal T and Mystery were talking business, since Mystery’s presentation went over so well at the seminar.  At the other end of the table, Craig, Rick H, and a few others were clowning around and exchanging stories about banging strippers.  Mystery even made it a point to Pick-Up the hostess who was working at the time.

After diner was over, Mystery, Herbal, and a few others headed back home, while the rest of us hit the bars.  We went to two different bars that night.  I got to see Craig clown around a bit, which was awesome.  He had a new trick where he’d act really into a girl and suddenly, when she was ready to talk, whip out his cell phone a scream “HEEEEYYYYY!!!!  WUZ UUUUUUPPPPPPP????!!!!” and then act like he was obnoxiously talking into his cell, ignoring the girl.  It was too fucking funny.  He did this with one set I pulled over for him.  Eventually, they got insulted and started walking away.  Craig chased after them yelling “Hey guys!  Guys wait!  Wait!”  As soon as they turned around and looked at him, he whipped out his cell again, backturned, and screamed “HEEEEYYYYY!!!!”  Everyone watching this busted up laughing.  The girls walked away emotionally destroyed.  It was hilarious.

Eventually, I teamed up with Rick H and did a few sets.  While walking around the bar, every ugly girl he’d see, he’d turn to me and say “Uh, dude, tell your girlfriend to stop following us around.”  Turns out Rick H’s ball busting doesn’t stop with girls.  It was funny shit though.  I eventually pulled two girls over to him at the bar and got to see his game a bit.  First thing he does is grab their palms, look them over, and trace his finger over them, saying “You got the sexual adventurism fork.”  They of course ask what that means.  He tells them “Well, it means one of three things.  Those with the fork are either fetishists, exhibitionists, or… bisexual.”  He then told them that they both have the forks.

The girls laughed.  Rick H then did a full palm reading on the hot one.  She seemed really into it.  He then asked her “What kind of girls do you like?”  She said “I’m not into girls.  I like guys.”  Rick responded “No, you just like guys more.”  He probably could have gotten her if her friend hadn’t dragged her off, since the girl he was talking to (a really cute blond chick) seemed into it.  After they were gone he started making fun of them for having fat asses (even though, at least in one of their cases, that wasn’t true).

I then talked to Rick a bit about Las Vegas, and I told him that last time I was out there, I kept running into prostitutes.  I asked him if he’s ever gotten the hookers in Vegas into bed without paying, and he told me “all the time.”  He talked about his system for doing it, where he’ll usually get them early in the night, before lots of business is thrown their way, and he’ll be really funny about it.  If she says:

“I’m working.”

He’ll respond:

Rick:  “Oh… yeah… um… well, you wanna know how to get a lot of customers?”
Her:  “Sure.”
Rick:  “Well, you need to get warmed up first.  You’re too, uh, too normal right now.  You gotta have sex.  You gotta have sex and get warmed up.  You have sex, you get all riled up, come back down to the casino stinking like sex, and guys will flock to you like bees to honey, honey.  C’mon, let’s go, up to my room and get you warmed up.”
Her:  (laughing) “Oh, I don’t know…”
Rick:  “It’s good for you.  It’s good for you.  It’s in your own best interest.  It’s in your own best interest.  C’mon.”

Rick said that for some reason, the key to making it work is saying “It’s good for you,” and “It’s in your own best interest.”  But you have to say them twice, otherwise it doesn’t work.  He told me stories about how many prostitutes he’s gotten off the clock using that routine.  This was really interesting because it works on many, many levels.  First, it sets the frame that she’s “not on the clock,” quite yet.  Second, it sets things up that you’re not a customer.  Third, you set the frame that she needs to have sex before she can make money.  And lastly, you have the dominant reality where it’s actually good for her (and on some level necessary) to sleep with you before she starts working.  Genius.

I also asked Rick H about how he got those 5 girls into bed all at once (the act that made him a legend).  He told me it happened at the Body Shop, which is a strip club off of Sunset Blvd.  He said the trick was to bring two girls with him to the club.  He sat them down at the stage and put dollars in front of them.  The dancers up on stage would come up and dance for the girls.  Then, after a little while of doing that, he pulled his two girls back to a table and waited.  Eventually, the dancers that were on stage approached and started talking to the girls.  Both his girls seduced a stripper each, and he got one as well, and got the three new girls back into his car.  Once he got all 5 girls back to his place, the rest was history.

As Rick would say, “That is how the game is played, boys!”

I also asked Rick about David D’s skills with women.  I had heard rumors that David D used to be really good with women, and that his skills have tapered off a bit.  Rick totally refuted this (and I believe him, because he was drunk at the time we were talking).  He said David D used to be amazing with women, and still is.  He told me that David D’s last girlfriend was one of the hottest girls he’d ever seen (and coming from Rick H, that means a LOT!).

As the night was winding down, we all headed back to my car.  Somewhere along the way, a member of out party got separated from the group.  Just as we all got in my car, I get a call on my phone.  It’s the guy we lost.  Turns out he picked up on two girls who were giving him a ride from two girls to my car, but couldn’t remember where we parked.  I told him, and he handed me over to one of the girls.

I didn’t feel like talking to her, so I handed the phone over to Rick.  Rick picks it up and the first thing he says is:

“Hello, Domino Pizza!”

We all start laughing.  Rick continues.

“You want pizza?  Extra topping?  Thick crust?  Thick crust?  You want cheesy bread?”

We could hear the girl on the other end trying to ask who he was and stuff, but Rick continued:

“You want chicken wing?  No extra hot, you get wing.  You eat.  No check!  No check!  No bouncy-bouncy!”

It just got worse from there.  Rick continued this routine for a good 5-7 minutes until the girls arrived with our buddy.  By then we all had tears in our eyes from laughter.  It was one hell of a fun night.

I ended up driving everyone back to their cars and going home for the night, thinking it couldn’t get any better than Day 3.  I was right, but Day 4 came aweful, aweful close…

To Be Continued…

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Bishop Returns????

Okay, this is pretty exciting. For those of you who remember who Bishop is, the fallen angel of the SS community, he who’s name is not to be mentioned in all things SS, has resurfaced and commented on the DYD Masters Recap, Day 2 thread!

Like sand through the hour glass…

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