The SS List — Beating a Dead Horse
February 4, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under Analysis
**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 12/17/03
For years, the Speed-Seduction list has been in operation. For a while, it was awesome. There was a real influx of talented seducers there coming up with “nuclear” stuff to use on chicks. Things like “The Warmth Builder,” “Riker’s 3 Rules,” and the amazing “takeaway” abounded. But then the star student turned out to be a con man and one of Ross’s fallen angels went off and started up the competition. Not only that, but fastseduction.com and mASF opened things up for more than just Ross’s products. Since that time, the SS list has endured, but it is a shadow of what it used to be.
Like Freddy screaming at Jason, whenever I open my e-mail to find posts from the SS list in there, I can’t help but yell at the screen “WHY WON’T YOU DIE???!!!!” And then proceed to delete 99.9% of the posts, occasionally reading one that catches my eye until I realize why it is that I bother to delete most of these posts, and then proceed to kill that one as well.
The thing is, even though the SS list isn’t what it used to be, SS isn’t what it used to be either. Gone are the days where you could memorize 40 patterns and steamroll a girl into a subnamuble trance and start fondling her right away. The new SS has degenerated into tailoring shit to the girl you are seducing, which cuts your success rate down to 30% at the least. Because of this, most of the guys who have progressed in their game have opted to leave SS behind for greener pastures. What does this mean?
Simple. There are no “good” seducers on the SS list anymore. It truly is the blind leading the blind, with newbies who haven’t even finished listening to the BHSC giving advice to other newbies, therefore insuring nobody really knows what they are doing. The fact that some of the best threads on there are discussing shit that was brought up in Swinggcat’s book doesn’t help matters.
What I’m wondering is — will it get any better? Will Ross lock himself away in a closet for 6 months and re-emerge with a new form a Speed Seduction — one that actually WORKS and is a viable alternative to DYD, MM, and any of the other 6 billion forms of PUA that have sprung up since the good ol’ days? Will SMART people actually join the SS list and start posting good shit again? Or should this list be killed or die quietly? Honestly, I haven’t seen ANYTHING good come from that list since the days Bishop was posting, and he made up all his shit. Kind of says something doesn’t it?
I think my biggest problem with the SS list comes from the fact that there are actually guys out there who are genuinely in need of help and wanting to learn, and they look at all the crap that’s passing for advice on this list because they don’t know any better, and it only ends up making their situation worse because they follow the poor advice that is given. In fact, most recently, the only person on there I’ve seen give somewhat good advice is Tom Vizzini (when he’s not hocking 3D Mind or any of that other crap, that is).
I hope Ross wakes up to the fact that his list is slowly degenerating into what Apple became in the 80s and early 90s, which is a steaming pile of crap, a shell of what it once was. I hope he starts putting some quality control on his list and his products, and starts dealing with the REALITY of seduction instead of the idealized NLP version of it. I hope he actually steps up to the plate and starts teaching guys what they need to know instead of fairy tales. But then again, that may be too much work.
In the meantime, I’ll just keep deleting my SS posts.
Thundercat
reklamnii kreativ_whsa on 
GregoryHoomy on 
mostbet download_yoet on 
JefferyGuesk on 
JerryThevy on 
famciclovir pills – famvir without prescription valcivir brand
https://indiaph24.store/# india pharmacy mail order
cheapest online pharmacy india [url=https://indiaph24.store/#]Generic Medicine India to USA[/url] top 10 pharmacies in india
https://canadaph24.pro/# canadian pharmacy service
veganchoicecbd.com
철구를 부수고 나면 찾을 곳이 없지만, 그것을 얻는 데는 많은 노력이 필요하지 않습니다.
http://indiaph24.store/# top online pharmacy india
buying from online mexican pharmacy [url=https://mexicoph24.life/#]Mexican Pharmacy Online[/url] mexican online pharmacies prescription drugs
mexican online pharmacies prescription drugs: mexican pharmacy – mexican drugstore online
http://indiaph24.store/# india pharmacy
buy prescription drugs from india [url=http://indiaph24.store/#]indian pharmacy[/url] online pharmacy india
canadian valley pharmacy [url=https://canadaph24.pro/#]canadian pharmacies[/url] adderall canadian pharmacy
https://indiaph24.store/# india pharmacy mail order
ed drugs online from canada: Licensed Canadian Pharmacy – canadian pharmacy no scripts
п»їbest mexican online pharmacies: best online pharmacies in mexico – best online pharmacies in mexico
http://canadaph24.pro/# pharmacy in canada
nizoral order online – ketoconazole where to buy sporanox 100 mg cost
http://indiaph24.store/# buy medicines online in india
india pharmacy https://indiaph24.store/# india pharmacy mail order
top 10 pharmacies in india
http://mexicoph24.life/# mexican border pharmacies shipping to usa
canada discount pharmacy [url=http://canadaph24.pro/#]Large Selection of Medications from Canada[/url] canadian pharmacy cheap
canadian pharmacy uk delivery [url=https://canadaph24.pro/#]canadian pharmacies[/url] best rated canadian pharmacy
buying prescription drugs in mexico: Online Pharmacies in Mexico – mexico drug stores pharmacies
http://lisinopril.network/# buying lisinopril online
buy cytotec online fast delivery [url=https://cytotec.club/#]buy cytotec pills[/url] cytotec abortion pill
https://nolvadex.life/# how to prevent hair loss while on tamoxifen
https://cytotec.club/# buy cytotec online
clomid nolvadex [url=http://nolvadex.life/#]tamoxifen benefits[/url] nolvadex pills
http://cytotec.club/# cytotec online
where can i buy cipro online [url=https://ciprofloxacin.tech/#]cipro 500mg best prices[/url] cipro 500mg best prices
get propecia without dr prescription: propecia cheap – cost of propecia
purchase lisinopril 10 mg [url=http://lisinopril.network/#]lisinopril 10[/url] lisinopril tablets uk
cougarsbkjersey.com
とても興味深い内容でした。読むのを楽しみにしています。
https://ciprofloxacin.tech/# cipro online no prescription in the usa
propecia online [url=http://finasteride.store/#]order cheap propecia price[/url] get cheap propecia without dr prescription
https://lisinopril.network/# lisinopril 1 mg tablet
purchase cytotec [url=http://cytotec.club/#]cytotec abortion pill[/url] cytotec online
lisinopril price: lisinopril 4 mg – where to buy lisinopril without prescription
order generic propecia without prescription [url=http://finasteride.store/#]order propecia without rx[/url] order propecia
http://ciprofloxacin.tech/# ciprofloxacin 500 mg tablet price
ciprofloxacin generic price [url=https://ciprofloxacin.tech/#]buy cipro cheap[/url] cipro ciprofloxacin
http://nolvadex.life/# arimidex vs tamoxifen bodybuilding
https://lisinopril.network/# lisinopril 40 mg purchase
rx propecia [url=https://finasteride.store/#]cost of propecia[/url] buying generic propecia
https://finasteride.store/# cost of propecia online
buy misoprostol over the counter [url=http://cytotec.club/#]buy cytotec online[/url] purchase cytotec
https://ciprofloxacin.tech/# ciprofloxacin 500mg buy online
buy misoprostol over the counter [url=https://cytotec.club/#]cytotec pills buy online[/url] cytotec online
https://nolvadex.life/# nolvadex estrogen blocker
Cytotec 200mcg price: buy cytotec online fast delivery – buy cytotec online fast delivery
buy propecia without dr prescription [url=http://finasteride.store/#]get generic propecia pill[/url] order generic propecia price
https://lisinopril.network/# lisinopril online purchase
zofran iv push time
20 mg lisinopril tablets [url=https://lisinopril.network/#]lisinopril 4214[/url] lisinopril 10 mg tablet price
http://ciprofloxacin.tech/# cipro for sale
Abortion pills online [url=https://cytotec.club/#]order cytotec online[/url] Cytotec 200mcg price