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Senor Fingers, who has some of the best posts over on the Don Juan boards, has posted a great article up over on mASF that goes into great personal detail about his journey of self discovery and self improvement.  He’s got a lot of interesting insites, and I think everyone will get a lot out of reading his post.

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Women And “Reintegration”

SteviePUA has a good post up on mASF about getting a woman to become comfortable with you after doing something that might have been outside her "first impression."

SteviePUA writes:
There’s an
advanced skill which is rarely discussed. This is the need some chicks
have for REINTEGRATION of something new they have done into how they
previously saw your relationship together.

Take the example of doing something outside the box for her. She fucks
you in public. That brings a completely new dimension to how she sees
you and the relationship.

This can be disconcerting to a lot of chicks because they don’t know
how to integrate how they now see you with how they saw you before. If
you ignore what you have done then they can get weirded out because
they don’t know how to deal with it. If you become a new person in
light of what you have done together that can worry her too because she
liked you as you were before. BTW, this is one of big reasons that
girls don’t want to sleep with male friends, even if she finds you
attractive. They fear the friendship you have together will be changed
by the act of sex. What this comes down to is she feels unable to
REINTEGRATE that new experience into the previous way of relating to
you.

You need to reintegrate her new perceptions of you into how she saw
your relationship before the new experience occurred, then you have new
sexually exciting dimensions (or whatever the new thing was) as a
constituent part of your current relationship.

That’s what I was doing (and always make sure to do) after the picnic
sex and she snapped out of the trance which had resulted in me sweeping
her away sexually. Afterwards, I made her comfortable about the new
experience and integrated it into how we interacted personally. I
didn’t ignore the issue. Instead, I gave her an ‘out’ – an excuse for
what had happened. I told her we were so excited it just happened then
I linked that into a story on the theme of excitement, bringing in
elements which were familiar to our relationship. It was, in a sense
now that I think about it, an integration of anchors where the old
familiar anchors got mixed in with the new experience associations and
got soothed into acceptance. This allows for reintegration. Now I have
new anchors created for the picnic fuck which can be used in relation
to other mind fucks I want to use. Very sneaky and very effective.

I do think Stevie has a point on this.  How many times have you had a girl say to you "You’ve changed," or "Things are different/not what they used to be," or "I feel like I don’t know you anymore!" blah, blah, blah…

This concept of "reintegration" is an interesting one, because it’s about creating a role for both you and her, but it’s not only about getting your girl to accept that role, but to become COMFORTABLE in that role.  I think this is really important to understand, because too often women may play the role you want them to, but they won’t necessarily feel good about doing it.

We often think that the comfort stage ends after you’ve gotten a girl to sleep with you, but Stevie’s point is that’s not the case.  Comfort is an ONGOING thing.  Whenever you try something new or want to experiment, it’s important to be aware that you need to create comfort for your woman.

Women And “Reintegration”

SteviePUA has a good post up on mASF about getting a woman to become comfortable with you after doing something that might have been outside her "first impression."

SteviePUA writes:
There’s an
advanced skill which is rarely discussed. This is the need some chicks
have for REINTEGRATION of something new they have done into how they
previously saw your relationship together.

Take the example of doing something outside the box for her. She fucks
you in public. That brings a completely new dimension to how she sees
you and the relationship.

This can be disconcerting to a lot of chicks because they don’t know
how to integrate how they now see you with how they saw you before. If
you ignore what you have done then they can get weirded out because
they don’t know how to deal with it. If you become a new person in
light of what you have done together that can worry her too because she
liked you as you were before. BTW, this is one of big reasons that
girls don’t want to sleep with male friends, even if she finds you
attractive. They fear the friendship you have together will be changed
by the act of sex. What this comes down to is she feels unable to
REINTEGRATE that new experience into the previous way of relating to
you.

You need to reintegrate her new perceptions of you into how she saw
your relationship before the new experience occurred, then you have new
sexually exciting dimensions (or whatever the new thing was) as a
constituent part of your current relationship.

That’s what I was doing (and always make sure to do) after the picnic
sex and she snapped out of the trance which had resulted in me sweeping
her away sexually. Afterwards, I made her comfortable about the new
experience and integrated it into how we interacted personally. I
didn’t ignore the issue. Instead, I gave her an ‘out’ – an excuse for
what had happened. I told her we were so excited it just happened then
I linked that into a story on the theme of excitement, bringing in
elements which were familiar to our relationship. It was, in a sense
now that I think about it, an integration of anchors where the old
familiar anchors got mixed in with the new experience associations and
got soothed into acceptance. This allows for reintegration. Now I have
new anchors created for the picnic fuck which can be used in relation
to other mind fucks I want to use. Very sneaky and very effective.

I do think Stevie has a point on this.  How many times have you had a girl say to you "You’ve changed," or "Things are different/not what they used to be," or "I feel like I don’t know you anymore!" blah, blah, blah…

This concept of "reintegration" is an interesting one, because it’s about creating a role for both you and her, but it’s not only about getting your girl to accept that role, but to become COMFORTABLE in that role.  I think this is really important to understand, because too often women may play the role you want them to, but they won’t necessarily feel good about doing it.

We often think that the comfort stage ends after you’ve gotten a girl to sleep with you, but Stevie’s point is that’s not the case.  Comfort is an ONGOING thing.  Whenever you try something new or want to experiment, it’s important to be aware that you need to create comfort for your woman.

Cliff’s List Seminar News… Again

Here’s the latest on the upcoming Cliff’s List Seminar…

NEW CONFIRMED SPEAKERS:
There will be presentations at the event that will not be included in the DVD product. So miss them at your peril!

Cliff’s List is the oldest and most respected email in the seduction community, providing unparalleled high quality information on how to become or be more successful with women.  Chock full of field reports, tips, strategies, reviews, interviews, and a variety of other great posts, Cliff’s List has for years been the number one fr(ee resource on the Internet for beginners, intermediates and highly advanced students of the art and science of seduction. Everyone reads Cliff’s List!

This seminar will feature many of the prominent instructors, lecturers, "gurus" and others who are highly successful in their relationships with women. Several of these highly skilled individuals have never appeared anywhere else but in writing on Cliff’s List – see them in person for the first time! Meet them LIVE in a unique event structured to highlight their great advice that will help take you to the next  level.

SURPRISE GUEST APPEARANCES:
There will be some major surprises at the event – special appearances by controversial and highly intriguing superstars.

PARTIAL TENTATIVE TOPIC LIST (subject to change):

David DeAngelo: Will talk about advanced material that he hasn’t shared previously.

Bishop: "Know where you ARE, so you know where to GO in seduction."

Steve Piccus: Would You Date Yourself or Working your Complementary Opposites for improving your inner game.

Dr Alex Benzer aka Dr Tao: Will talk about beliefs, doing some seriously mind-altering drills, and talking about some techniques.

David Shade’s talk will be on: "Threesomes: The Secrets To Making Your Fantasy A Reality"

Sickboy & PlayboyLA: Secrets to pick-up that lead to long-term relationships. So often the pick-up has to do with getting laid, ONS (One Night Stands), etc. What we are interesting in passing on is our technique for meeting women that encourages long-term, healthy relationships. We plan to go into specific techniques that we teach that assist this dynamic as well as building a lifestyle which naturally att racts women that you are compatible with, reducing your need to spend a lot of time "sarging". Our clients tend to be very busy, and just don’t have the time to go out to clubs/bars, etc. so we have had to customize our work in this fashion enabling them to meet women through the natural rhythm of living their life rather than hitting "sets" over and over.

Sensei: Will talk on "Kino: The Power of a Gentle Touch".

Style: His topic will be: "Beyond the Approach — How to Keep a Woman."

Cameron: Belief and mentality of a man who is successful in attracting women.  Seeing the Matrix & The 5 Attributes of a Charismatic man who is successful with women. He will give a quick background of his journey and why he joined the community. His talk will include being comfortable in your own skin and the belief system paradigm shift.

Mark B.: Will cover the basics, his background, his experience and how that changed him, att raction, how to connect, etc.

Patty Contenta: will talk on body language, and how to recognize a woman’s subtle signals.

FABULOUS SPECIAL PARTY INCLUDED!
As a special bonus, the Seminar will feature a spectacular  party being thrown in cooperation with a modelling agency.  Many very attractive women will be in attendance.

BOOK EARLY.  Here is a list of other events happening at  the same time in Montreal – HOTEL ROOMS ARE AT A PREMIUM AT THIS TIME.

- Fantasia (Contemporary international film festival)  July  7-31,
2005
- Montreal International Tango Festival  July 9-17, 2005
- Just for Laughs Festival  July 14-24, 2005
- Le Mondial SAQ  The Montréal Fireworks June 18th to  July 30th
2005
- Festival international de Lanaudière July 9th to August 7st  2005
- Montréal International Reggae Festival – July 15th to 17th  2005
- Starlight concerts and screenings July 7th to 17th, 2005
- Tremblant International Blues Festival The country’s largest
blues gathering. July 8-17, 2005
- FINA (worldwide aquatic championships) July 17  31,  2005

The dates are July 15, 16, & 17, 2005.

Cost for the three day seminar is:  $800 Canadian or $650 U.S. A structured payment schedule is available until June 14th, see the website.

If you wish to pay by credit card, this can be done either by going to www.paypal.com and sending money to cliff@cliffslist.com, or Visa or MasterCard orders can be done by contacting Cliff by email at cliff@cliffslist.com.

Checks or money orders can be sent to:

Cliff’s List
2348 Lucerne Rd., Suite 143,
Montreal, Quebec, CANADA H3R 2J8

Please send an email to cliff@cliffslist.com advising of any mail sent to this address.

This is shaping up to be a good seminar.  I can’t wait to see how this shapes up!

Cliff’s List Seminar News… Again

Here’s the latest on the upcoming Cliff’s List Seminar…

NEW CONFIRMED SPEAKERS:
There will be presentations at the event that will not be included in the DVD product. So miss them at your peril!

Cliff’s List is the oldest and most respected email in the seduction community, providing unparalleled high quality information on how to become or be more successful with women.  Chock full of field reports, tips, strategies, reviews, interviews, and a variety of other great posts, Cliff’s List has for years been the number one fr(ee resource on the Internet for beginners, intermediates and highly advanced students of the art and science of seduction. Everyone reads Cliff’s List!

This seminar will feature many of the prominent instructors, lecturers, "gurus" and others who are highly successful in their relationships with women. Several of these highly skilled individuals have never appeared anywhere else but in writing on Cliff’s List – see them in person for the first time! Meet them LIVE in a unique event structured to highlight their great advice that will help take you to the next  level.

SURPRISE GUEST APPEARANCES:
There will be some major surprises at the event – special appearances by controversial and highly intriguing superstars.

PARTIAL TENTATIVE TOPIC LIST (subject to change):

David DeAngelo: Will talk about advanced material that he hasn’t shared previously.

Bishop: "Know where you ARE, so you know where to GO in seduction."

Steve Piccus: Would You Date Yourself or Working your Complementary Opposites for improving your inner game.

Dr Alex Benzer aka Dr Tao: Will talk about beliefs, doing some seriously mind-altering drills, and talking about some techniques.

David Shade’s talk will be on: "Threesomes: The Secrets To Making Your Fantasy A Reality"

Sickboy & PlayboyLA: Secrets to pick-up that lead to long-term relationships. So often the pick-up has to do with getting laid, ONS (One Night Stands), etc. What we are interesting in passing on is our technique for meeting women that encourages long-term, healthy relationships. We plan to go into specific techniques that we teach that assist this dynamic as well as building a lifestyle which naturally att racts women that you are compatible with, reducing your need to spend a lot of time "sarging". Our clients tend to be very busy, and just don’t have the time to go out to clubs/bars, etc. so we have had to customize our work in this fashion enabling them to meet women through the natural rhythm of living their life rather than hitting "sets" over and over.

Sensei: Will talk on "Kino: The Power of a Gentle Touch".

Style: His topic will be: "Beyond the Approach — How to Keep a Woman."

Cameron: Belief and mentality of a man who is successful in attracting women.  Seeing the Matrix & The 5 Attributes of a Charismatic man who is successful with women. He will give a quick background of his journey and why he joined the community. His talk will include being comfortable in your own skin and the belief system paradigm shift.

Mark B.: Will cover the basics, his background, his experience and how that changed him, att raction, how to connect, etc.

Patty Contenta: will talk on body language, and how to recognize a woman’s subtle signals.

FABULOUS SPECIAL PARTY INCLUDED!
As a special bonus, the Seminar will feature a spectacular  party being thrown in cooperation with a modelling agency.  Many very attractive women will be in attendance.

BOOK EARLY.  Here is a list of other events happening at  the same time in Montreal – HOTEL ROOMS ARE AT A PREMIUM AT THIS TIME.

- Fantasia (Contemporary international film festival)  July  7-31,
2005
- Montreal International Tango Festival  July 9-17, 2005
- Just for Laughs Festival  July 14-24, 2005
- Le Mondial SAQ  The MontrГ©al Fireworks June 18th to  July 30th
2005
- Festival international de LanaudiГЁre July 9th to August 7st  2005
- MontrГ©al International Reggae Festival – July 15th to 17th  2005
- Starlight concerts and screenings July 7th to 17th, 2005
- Tremblant International Blues Festival The country’s largest
blues gathering. July 8-17, 2005
- FINA (worldwide aquatic championships) July 17  31,  2005

The dates are July 15, 16, & 17, 2005.

Cost for the three day seminar is:  $800 Canadian or $650 U.S. A structured payment schedule is available until June 14th, see the website.

If you wish to pay by credit card, this can be done either by going to www.paypal.com and sending money to cliff@cliffslist.com, or Visa or MasterCard orders can be done by contacting Cliff by email at cliff@cliffslist.com.

Checks or money orders can be sent to:

Cliff’s List
2348 Lucerne Rd., Suite 143,
Montreal, Quebec, CANADA H3R 2J8

Please send an email to cliff@cliffslist.com advising of any mail sent to this address.

This is shaping up to be a good seminar.  I can’t wait to see how this shapes up!

House Party Tips

The Distinguished Gentleman put up a comment that’s just too good to ignore.

The Distinguished Gentleman writes:
Coming from a guy who has been into PU for 3 years and has been spinning sexy, soulful house music for 7 years, Gabriel Mack is spot on right!!  Always good to invite your gay friends and hottest girlfriends – they definitely liven up the party.

With the really hot girls, make sure you surround the party with an air of exclusivity by telling them, "you can only bring one or two friends – we are trying to keep this as posh as possible – and make sure they’re cute." In my experience, they’ve all responded very well to the fact that it’s going to be "POSH". Also, if you can afford it, pick up a handful of cheap martini glasses at Target…girls love to drink anything out of martini glasses, looks sexy, classy and posh.

I know that Absolut is offering bottles of premixed Cosmopolitan’s now…an uber-popular chick drink. So, just toss the bottle and display the drinks like you made them fresh Also, get a bottle of coconut rum and some vodka…maybe some good beer for the cool guys you invite.   Maybe want to hit Ikea or CB2 and pick up some cool, cheap lamps, candles and other trendy chotzskys to place around the pad. These are great to have whether or not you’re having a party. It gives the place a nice classy atmosphere where beautiful women feel very comfortable and very feminine. Nice. 

Keep it goin’ fellas… 
dK

Excellent advice.  Remember, parties are the EASIEST places to meet women.  And if you’re throwing your own party — watch out!  =)

Quick Note About Comments

Hi Guys,

I wanted to make just a quick "housekeeping" note about writing in comments.  HTML is enabled in the comments of this site, so you can actually design your replies to read a little easier.

For instance, if you want to quote something that someone else has said, like this:

Bob is going to school.

You’d use the <blockquote> tab to bracket it.  So you’d type this into your comments:

<blockquote>Bob is going to school.</blockquote>

And if you want to add some style to your posts, like boldface, italic, or underline, you’d use these tags:

<b>boldface</b>
<i>italic</i>
<u>underline</u>

If you want a combination of them, like this, here’s how you’d do it:

<b><i><u>like this</u></i></b>

Just remember that you have to close each tag in order.  So if you have <b> first and <i> second, you need to have </i> first after the text you want to enhance, followed by </b>.

If you want to add a link to your comments, like this one, here’s how you’d do it:

<a href="http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com">this one</a>

Be sure to put the website you’re linking to in "quotes" and add the "http://" part.

If you want to add color to your text, like this right here, here’s how you can do it:

<font color="red">like this right here</font>

You can use the words "red," "blue," "green," "yellow," "orange," "purple," "brown," etc.  Or you can use hexidecimal colors if you know what those are.  Just remember if you use colored text, you might make it hard for people to read your comments.

And if you want to make a bulleted list of points, like this one:

• point #1
• point #2
• point #3

Here’s how you’d type it:

<ul><li>point #1</li>
<li>point #2</li>
<li>point #3</li></ul>

The <ul> tag starts the list, and the <li> tags mark when each point begins and ends.

You can also do a numbered list like this:

1. point #1
2. point #2
3. point #3

Here’s how you’d type it:

<ol><li>point #1</li>
<li>point #2</li>
<li>point #3</li></ol>

So instead of beginning and ending the list with <ul>, you use the tag <ol>.  Got it?  =)

Now you guys can use this information to make your comments easier to read.  Have fun!

Bishop Pictures

Bishop sent me an email along with a few pictures he wanted me to post on the site.  The title of his email was "Unlike MINE’99, I HAVE Proof."

Thundy,

Just thought I’d give you a sneak peek at a "babes" page I’m working on, which shows me with babes I’ve seduced, and babes of guys who bought "The Fire of Seduction."

The way I see it, the proof is in the pictures as to my abilities.

The pics are attached, both are me with the babes.

Enjoy!

Bishop

Fair enough.  Here are the pics he sent in.  Judge for yourself:

Cliff’s List Party Pictures

Hi All,

Got an email from Cliff today that he wanted me to share with you guys.

Hey Thundercat,

The guy I have who is working with me on the seminar sent me this link
which are pics from the "dry run" party that he threw a few
weeks ago.

You have some really skeptical guys on your blog – I don’t know if this
will sway their opinions but if you think it’s worthwhile perhaps you can
mention it:

http://www.clubzone.com/photos/gallery520.html

Thanks.

Best,

Clifford

Those girls are pretty hot!  Let’s hope the actual party is going to be as good as it looks like this one was.  =)

Cliff’s List Party Pictures

Hi All,

Got an email from Cliff today that he wanted me to share with you guys.

Hey Thundercat,

The guy I have who is working with me on the seminar sent me this link
which are pics from the "dry run" party that he threw a few
weeks ago.

You have some really skeptical guys on your blog – I don’t know if this
will sway their opinions but if you think it’s worthwhile perhaps you can
mention it:

http://www.clubzone.com/photos/gallery520.html

Thanks.

Best,

Clifford

Those girls are pretty hot!  Let’s hope the actual party is going to be as good as it looks like this one was.  =)

How To Succeed With Women Seminars

Just got this email from Ron Louis:

Dear Mr. Thundercat

I wanted to let you know some upcoming dates for courses.

Upcoming Freedom with Women courses
July 22-24 San Fran

Advanced Skills seminar
July 22-24 NYC

Approach Camp
June 23-26 Ann Arbor
July 28-31 Vegas

If anyone’s going, be sure to send in a review!

Art Of Approaching Blog

Hey guys,

I’ve set up a new blog (yes, another one) dealing specifically with The Art Of Approaching.  I’ve been getting so many emails from guys asking for advice recently that I thought it’d be great to share some of the emails I’ve been getting to help out others.  It’s not like this blog, because you’re not allowed to post comments on it.  This is still the site where the free exchange of ideas (and flames and insults =) can take place.  The new AOA blog is more for informational purposes.

If you want to check it out, you can do so here.

Naked Women Wrestling

Best.  Website.  Ever.

Fidentia Workshop Review

Alek sent in a rather long and detailed workshop review of the new kids on the block — Fidentia.  Its probably one of the longest posts ever made, but its still a good read, and pretty favorable for the Fidentia guys.  I’m posting it here in full for your reading pleasure.

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Alpha Isn’t Bad

Carlos Xuma chimes in today with a new article on how to be Alpha, and what Alphaness isn’t such a bad thing after all…

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