Bishop Pictures
June 8, 2005 by Thundercat
Filed under News
Bishop sent me an email along with a few pictures he wanted me to post on the site. The title of his email was "Unlike MINE’99, I HAVE Proof."
Thundy,
Just thought I’d give you a sneak peek at a "babes" page I’m working on, which shows me with babes I’ve seduced, and babes of guys who bought "The Fire of Seduction."
The way I see it, the proof is in the pictures as to my abilities.
The pics are attached, both are me with the babes.
Enjoy!
Bishop
Fair enough. Here are the pics he sent in. Judge for yourself:
Bcedanexy on 
CharlesHeree on 
Billyquari on 
Магазин садовой мебели on 
HenryKacle on 
Picture #2 has being badly retouched, I checked it with Paint Shop Pro and there is no pixel feathering where the guys shape borders the girl, there are some remaning green pixels on the girls hand outline that maybe were part of the original picture.The green seems out of place with the guys blue shirt.
The solo girls pictures don’t prove anything.
The girl in the red San Francisco shirt looks like his sister.
You wanna see something really impressive.
This is me with not 1 but THREE women in a picture.
http://dynamicsexlife.com/gunswomen.html
SEE it, LOOK at it, and FEEL the envy!
ok, guys, i’d bang both of those chicks and I believe that Bishop slammed those chicas. GUYS!!! It isn’t that hard! There’s so many chumps out there, if you guys at least approach girls like that in a non AFC way, you guys could definitely bag em’, its NOT THAT HARD! All this talk about lets see proof is bullshit, its coming from guys who do not have the least bit idea of how to get chicks. All you have to do is go up and talk and not be afraid. Simple. Forget all the methods. You don’t need em’. In my opinion, each guy already has what it takes to get girls, you just have to say ‘fuck you’ to your insecurities, talk to them, and if you’re fun and outgoing you’re in. Everyone in the community thinks too much. Its not about lines, its about personality. If you’re a dweeb with glasses and a pocket protector go for it, just have no excuses for what you’re doing. Simple. Now, its a celebration bitches, get laid.
Kudos to Bishop for having the gumption to serve up the goods. Its hard to ‘come out’ like this – at least it was for me.
Mystery u fag. Your chicks are fugly too
Ninja stole my bicycle.
Nice work on the weight loss Bishop. Now you just need a tan and some better shirts.
Wow. Bishop why didn’t you come out with the page first? (http://www.new-alpha.com/babespage.html)
Those are some pretty respectable babes going on there. Consdering its amateur photography (no special lighting, makeup, airbrushing)… that’s awesome!
But when I saw the first 2 pics I was like poor bishop… But now with the page you posted… RESPECT man. RESPECT
THUNDERCAT: Maybe add the link to the post?
Alek wrote:
Wow. Bishop why didn’t you come out with the page first? (http://www.new-alpha.com/babespage.html)
That is what I was wondering. Think I can tell you why. Thundy posted the worst of the pics, knowing it would generate controversy. (this is a gossip site) And I fell for it hook line and sinker…:(
Fell for it to the point I had to make a retraction…..never again.
Still Bishop isn’t what I had pictured in my mind. I figured him for a professional businees type..I mean look at how well he writes, only to look like he belongs in a back of a pick-up truck drinking bud.
Well anyway, I’ve ate enough crow…out of here.
Smiling
“You wanna see something really impressive.
This is me with not 1 but THREE women in a picture.
http://dynamicsexlife.com/gunswomen.html
SEE it, LOOK at it, and FEEL the envy!”
\Gunwitch I Wanna bare your children you big hunka hunka o’love!!!!!!!
“Gunwitch I Wanna bare your children you big hunka hunka o’love!!!!!!!”
Thats my job…..woooo gunny!!
Remember smile with your eyes..if you have any!!
“deserves to get hijacked. So, by all means, let it burninking about me? Do I remind you of someone who molested you as a child or something? This veiled hate is really irrational. I didn’t respond to your silly “points,” because that would be like cursing at the birds for shitting on your car! Pointless! You, on the other hand, are undeniably either (1) some disgruntled AFC who I told to “GFTOW,” (2) a regular poster who thought he was hot shit until I put him in his place, (3) some douche-bag who doesn’t like my ideas ”
nrv31
A Man’s Man
LoL gunwitch
That was FUNNY!
who is this sigh guy
” is ross girl black? Interesting bet she wants half.”
what the fuck is that?
I found Laughing’s post where he critisizes TECHNICALLY what Bishop is doing wrong with the women.
“1. He hasn’t got rapport with this girl. First he is hugging her and she is not returning the gesture.”
LOL WTF? Listen to some golden advice (everyone!): It does not matter how it looks, what is being done, etc. but that it WORKS. I can’t believe some people being so superbly technical with memorised analyses’ that is always applied to OTHERS, as they themselves sit at home and wonder why they’re never getting action.
Seriously people, couch-PUA’ing is a plague in this community. The ultimate goal you can reach is being at ease with yourself, totally confident and approaching women TOTALLY ON YOUR OWN TERMS. Not some new method, or routine.
hear, hear to srussians comment
“deserves to get hijacked. So, by all means, let it burninking about me? Do I remind you of someone who molested you as a child or something? This veiled hate is really irrational. I didn’t respond to your silly “points,” because that would be like cursing at the birds for shitting on your car! Pointless! You, on the other hand, are undeniably either (1) some disgruntled AFC who I told to “GFTOW,” (2) a regular poster who thought he was hot shit until I put him in his place, (3) some douche-bag who doesn’t like my ideas ”
Quote by a World Famous PUA
Yo Bishop!
Respect to you man!
Most of the chicks are fine lookin’ except for the blond on the second picture. Too of ho for me.
Ignore those FOCKING IDIOTS!
That is what i used to be “hater”
They’re HATING ON YOU because they’re jealous. (hehehehe!)
That doesnt change the fact that the second picture is a fake. Why did bishop feel the need to lie?
Bishop isn’t fat. I’d like to see pictures of him with girls from the time when supposedly he was fat.
Also to TC, there was a claim in another post thread that you publicly admitted to being a virgin last year at the PUA Summit. TC, I really like everything you have done, but I think you ought to address this accusation. I will still respect you whatever the truth is.
I think the Gunwitch picture is funny, but I would also like to see real pics of him with women.
I myself have had a lifelong problem being both an AFC and an on and off fat ass. Right now I am halfway through a hardcore Atkins loss. I am putting off going after women hardcore until I lose down to average weight, which I know is really a bad attitute. I should be going out anyway and trying. I tend to believe Gunwitch that being 50 to 100 lbs. overweight reduces success rates by about a factor of 3. However, it would be neat and inspiring to see some proof of pulling decent wool from some fat guys who work really hard and manage to score anyway. Everybody likes to talk about the fat guy they know who gets all the babes, but I have rarely if ever seen it.
Doing a diet (any diet) is the perfect way to ensure that you remain fat. Please by all means change your perspective to that of “changing lifestyle habits” rather than “losing weight”. You do know of the fact that people who “lose weight” i.e. go on diets, 95% return to their previous weight +some.
In response to “Farman and Slobbin” who wrote:
“Bishop isn’t fat. I’d like to see pictures of him with girls from the time when supposedly he was fat.”
Anyone who saw me on the “EXTRA” TV show in 2000 can verify that I was a good 35-40 pounds heavier than I am now. The same is true of anyone who ever saw me from 1999 through 2001.
But the major issue is NOT that a guy is fat, but rather what he is projecting. It may be hard for some fat guys to accept, but the truth is that what you project about yourself is what has the most impact on women. Women are less concerned about a guy being fat, than guys are about a woman being fat. When I was at around 270 pounds, I didn’t act like I was 270 pounds. I acted like I was at my ideal wieght, and that I was someone worth knowing.
The truth is, there is something about a confident fat man that actually gets a woman’s curiosity. You see, attractive women are USED to fat guys being nervous, and insecure, and supplicative around them. So when they meet a fat guy, it naturally makes them curious, as this is not something they are used to.
But “confidence” is actually not the problem. The actual problem is “perception.” You think that it’s your weight that’s causing you to lose out on the really attractive women. Not true. What’s casuing you to lose out is that you have the PERCEPTION that women are not going to go for you because you’re fat. And because you have that perception, it becomes a dominant focus when you’re around them, which they of course can pick up on, which of course is NOT attractive to them, which is why you will get the reactions and responses that you have experienced.
So to be blunt: It’s all in your head.
But you may not want to accept that. You may want there to be a “It’s THEIR fault” answer to why things are happening. But what would happen if you realized that you’re rejecting YOURSELF before you ever gave a woman the chance to do it? It’s true of things other than being fat too. If a guy has a large nose, or if he has a prominant birthmark, or if he has a limp, or if he has big ears, or if he has a couple of teeth missing, he will project the insecurity of “She’ll judge me for it” before ever even giving her the chance to.
I know a guy who is 5′ 10″ he’s about 280 pounds, and he has what’s called a “wine stain” birthmark on the left side of his neck.(which is what Gorbechav had on his head) yet does he have problems with women? Well, yes, but not the same problems you likely have. HIS problem, is that he’s SO confident and arrogant, that the attractive women he seduces eventually grow tired of this behavior. But in the beginning of their time with him, they are attracted to him DESPITE his weight, despite his prominant birthmark. So HIS problem has NOTHING to do with his weight or his looks.
So, as much as you may want to argue it, the fact is, your weight is no excuse to deny women time with you.
Oh, and in case you think I lost weight because I wanted to attract more women; It’s actually because I have a much more active lifestyle. For one thing, and you can call this a brag or see it logically, when you’re shagging in a threesome on a regular basis, that activity alone will melt away the pounds. Plus I also do a lot of bike riding, I moutain climb/moutain bike, and I compete in charity walks/runs, and I will walk ANYWHERE instead of driving if it’s 5 miles away or less.
So see your situation NOT one of “It’s because I’m fat” but rather as “It’s because I THINK it’s because I’m fat.”
Bishop
Bishop,
Thanks for the lengthy thoughtful response. Believe it or not, I mostly agree with you. If I had good inner game I would be still be able to pull a good number of women. However, I guess I side with Gunwitch’s position on obesity rather than yours, in that I think it is a big factor in success rate (i.e. a guy who could lay 6 women per year with a fair amount of effort will probably only be able to get 1-2 per year with higher effort if he gains 50-100 lbs. of fat). I think what compounds a fat guy’s problem is his inner game gets so bad from being fat that he loses another factor of 3 or more in the success rate. So, I think fat guys often are stuck with a success rate 10% as high as non-fat guys and it gets so discouraging that they give up. Unfortunately that is the boat I have mostly ended up in during my life.
I think posting your pics was a really good thing. I just want to encourage pics of really fat guys doing well with women because I think it would help the inner game of us fat guys.
Also, I still am disappointed that TC has never really given the kind of coverage to the fat guy issue that I think it deserves.
Again, kudos to Gunwitch for at least dealing with the issue in a non-sugarcoated way.
Bishop, I do appreciate what you are saying. I don’t think what you say is wrong, but I just think the issue is a little tougher and more complex.
Also, I would like to invite TC to speak up – and open up – on this whole thing. I think a lot of us would really benefit if TC would talk about his experience with weight and women.
As far as bishop being “fat” he isn’t at all technically.
He has maybe some extra chub above a very thin man, I don’t see what all the fuss is about.
How many of you have 6 pac abs?
Everyone just expects everyone to have a body like a guy on TV these days, though they themselves do not.
How often do you ever see some ripped up dude with a perfect 10 of a chick anyway?
Odd as it is they just don’t seem to hook up.
More importanly bishop doesn’t look like some sort of pussy little 19 year old rich kid, he looks like he could take a punch and won’t be crying on a chicks doorstep if she gives him a piece of pussy one time only.
Except in maybe LA nightclubs or the Hamptons, masculinity, looking like a dude not a little pretty chick, is what counts more than a few extra pounds of fat.
I know myself because even though I have a lot of muscle I also have some flab, hell slap on a leather vest and its covered. Not like he is obese or something.
“Fatman and Waddling” we are all entitled to take nuggets of info that we agree on, and toss out the rest. While I would not expect everyone to agree with my last post 100%, my main goal was to at least get you thinking.
It’s interesting to me though, that many of us look at “how did HE do it?” before we accept that we might be able to do it as well. But stop and realize that the very first fat guy who ever got a regular flow of attractive women, had no one else to referrence his potential success by. He didn’t have the luxury of proof from someone else. He just had his own person conviction.
So, first of all, I acknowledge you for being open minded enough to accept that SOME of what I have said is true. That at least shows that you’ve not grow so jadded as to not accept responsibility for your own outcomes.
However, and this is just a compassionate constructive comment, I am concerned that you are attaching expectations to what TC can share. it’s one thing to want someone’s view and opinion on an issue. But ultimately, it all comes down to what YOUR view is on an issue, and what you’re willing to do about changing it to result in what you would prefer.
We can all share the most influential and inspiring and motivating things, but true success will come from finding that place within yourself that is no longer willing to settle for what you HAD and is determined to get what you WANT in as many possible ways as you can possible come up with. Just as there is no ONE way to seduce all women, so too is there no ONE way to overcome a personal issue. it all comes down to what you’re willing to accept, not accept, and what you’re willing to take chances to learn.
In closing, I again acknowledge you for having an opened mind. Many guys that I have met, have accepted their “fate” of never being able to seduce attractive women. You are at least willing to hold onto hope. And hope can be a powerful thing.
“muscle I also have some flab, hell slap on a leather vest and its covered. Not like he is obese or something.”
I do something similar, but while I was in europe, I found a male girdle for my belly. I weight 305 pounds and am 5’9″ and regulary shag women every week..,many of them are models. But the girdle makes me look like a football player
Big Bopper you’re lying man. What Bishop is saying is very motivating. I actually am fat even though I could run on the crosstrainer for an hour at a fairly high speed at level 13-14. I just can’t seem to lose the weight.
Hell I’m gonna’ start doing what Bishop is saying. Now the only question is: How would an attractive man behave around the women to attract them????
In reponse to “Handsome Man” who wrote:
“Hell I’m gonna’ start doing what Bishop is saying. Now the only question is: How would an attractive man behave around the women to attract them????”
The same way he would behave if he didn’t care if they were attracted to him, and he were just seeing if they were someone worth talking to. In other words: talk to them like you might consider being friends with them, but that you’d need some convincing to let them know you on a deeper level.
Who’s choice is it? Not the woman’s. It’s YOUR choice who you “let in” and who you “keep at arm’s length” and who you “keep a distance from” and who you “avoid as much as possible.”
I can see you’re all taking in the cool stuff Bishop is writing on Thundercat’s site, that post on fat guys is AMAZING. One quick question:
I have become confident, not arrogant in my mannerisms, my attitude, in just about everything I do. You’re saying that if a guy stays arrogant the women will grow tired of this. I don’t get this because I really can’t revert back to my AFC ways now that I’ve seen this life. What gives, am I supposed to be an AFC to be in a relationship?
In response to Ninjitsu-gaiden-san, who wrote:
“I have become confident, not arrogant in my mannerisms, my attitude, in just about everything I do. You’re saying that if a guy stays arrogant the women will grow tired of this. I don’t get this because I really can’t revert back to my AFC ways now that I’ve seen this life. What gives, am I supposed to be an AFC to be in a relationship?”
Not “stays arrogant” as much as it’s “never showing appreciation.”
You see, when he’s first meeting a woman, what gets her attention is that he’s not kissing her ass, and he’s making her work for his approval. But there comes a time when you need to express some level of appreciation for this woman you’re with. So it’s not a matter of becoming an AFC once you’re with her, as much as it’s displaying some level of appreciation for what she brings to your life.
There is a difference between acknowledging a woman for something, and fawning over her.
In other words, a nice, out of the blue “I like our conversations” is not being an AFC, it’s showing appreciation for something you enjoy with her. It becomes AFC behavior when you’re bringing it up a lot, and complimenting her a lot, and letting ger her way most of the time.
You have to have that balance between calling her on her bullshit, and showing her some respect and appreciation. You can acknowledge her, without kissing her ass, or supplicating. It’s not supplicating to say, “Hey, I had fun last night.” Just pay her that compliment, and then move on to something else.
If I had to simplify it, I’d do it this way: Don’t dwell on a compliment. Say it, let her respond, then move on to another topic/subject.
She just wants to know that all that effort she’s making, is getting her something. Think about it from the other side. As an AFC, you would LOVE to hear her say something nice to you. If all she did was bust your balls, and make you do whatever SHE wanted, eventually you’d give up because it’s fucking DRAINING. But, if she complimented you from time to time, and acknowledged soemthing you said or did, then you’d be moptivated to stay and to continue doing what she’s expressed liking about you. Right? Well, that’s how a woman is too! Only the women who have no identity of their own, and who accept that they must be led at all times, will stick around a guy who treats them like shit ALL the time.
I fully admit, that I’ll do romantic things for a woman I’m intimate with. For example, a woman and I were at dinner for her birthday. I know she likes Calle Lillies, so I took a paper napkin and made it into a Calle Lillie. I didn’t make some cheesy “I want to show you how I feel about you” comment. I just made the flower and handed it to her without saying a word. That was it. No words, no deep glances into her eyes as I handed it to her, no touching her. I just made it, handed it to her, then started some conversation about soemthing. That was 4 months ago, and she STILL has that paper flower.
Another time, I was playing some Tekken 4 with a babe. She caught my character with a sweet combo move to win the round. She asked me if I was mad. I simpy said, “Actually, I think I’m aroused.” After that, she used the inside joke of “Wanna do some Tekken?” as code for wanting to shag.
The point is, these brief little expressions, these brief little compliments, showed her that I had an appreciation for her, without me having to kiss her ass, or behave like an AFC.
Granted, some guys might consider the paper flower an AFC move. I see it as a way to show my creativity, while also giving her something unique. Not to mention, imagine the powerful anchor that little piece of paper becomes, every time she sees it.
So, does that effectively answer your question?
Bishop
I think this is the golden nugget of your post, Bishop, because it is so true and so misunderstood!
People seem to think it’s either “No compliments!” or “Fawn over her!”
I used to give compliments to girls who really liked me and they would light up with happiness, then when I saw it I enjoyed it so much, that I kept going with the compliment, developing it or adding to it, bla bla bla…
And of course the good result I got at first evaporated!
So “move on” is something that I think needs to be memorized by everyone.
> Just pay her that compliment, and then
> move on to something else.
> If I had to simplify it, I’d do it this
> way:
> Don’t dwell on a compliment. Say it, let
> her respond, then move on to another
> topic/subject.
Bishop,
Thanks for ANOTHER MASTERPIECE. People are beginning to see and understand all the cool shit you post and are actually “getting it” unlike some other methods we all know about.
Mystery is in Las Vegas whenever his visits his ex or he’s doing those stripper bootcamps. You two should catch up since you both have something in common. It was Mystery who said on the DYD Masters seminar about people who try to start with Seduction,“I see two problems with this way of thinking. And that’s “Speed” and “Seduction.”
BUAHAHAHAHA!
DYD Masters Recap, Day 3
Whoops bad link, here is a good one
DYD Masters Recap, Day 3
Yes those girls are hotties..Bishop has game..
The only PUA who shows his actual dick in his PU’s actual pussy and/or mouth is Thom Trash and he respects them spiritually as well.
Hail to the female!!!
thom trash is really really G A Y
Both pics are fake, if you look at the first one — look at his head, you see photoshoped shit …
And you can see HIM in the television
Which picture came first? 1 he has a tattoo and the other he doesn’t…. Man it is ok to fail, no reason to ly… if you are… PU is not easy, I believe the first pict because that chick I think anyone could of PU.
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