AMOG Notes

April 21, 2004 by  
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Tyler Durden had an excellent Field Report up on mASF about some various AMOG situations he’s dealt with in the past few days.

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Quote of the Day

April 21, 2004 by  
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Its about time for another quote of the day.  The honor goes, once again, to Jlaix!

Jlaix says:
"She kept saying no, no when I would try to lick her (dripping wet) pussy. So I told her, "Listen, nothing will happen, I have whiskey dick! It won’t even work!" and showed her my flaccid, whiskified cock. "I just wanna lick it!" She relents at this, and I, of course, resume erection during the licking and commence fucking shortly thereafter. kaching!"

Words to live by.  I hear this experience has prompted Jlaix to create the FALSE WHISKEY DICK LMR DESTROYER tactic.

Cheers.

Tyler Phone Game Tip

April 21, 2004 by  
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In a post asking about how long one should wait to call a girl, Tyler Durden responds:

Tyler Durden writes:
Follow up on phone#s ASAP, including the same hour and definetely the next day. This goes against typical social “Wait a bit to call”, which is bullshit that does not account for player style cold approaches.

Call as late as you want, but absolutely remember not to fall into a trap of trying to remind her who you are over and over until she gets it. Instead, state who you are and where you met and then immediately plow into your phone game. “Hey, its Tyler from the Phoenix Club. So check this out……….” That way, even if she doesn’t remember, she’ll be so into you that she’ll show up regardless. If you get stuck trying to remind her, she’ll just keep saying “No, I don’t remember”, and then hang up. If you barrel through it whether she remembers or not, then she’ll get into you and you’ll bypass it.

Good tip. You can read the whole thread here.

The Return of Manifestis

April 21, 2004 by  
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One of the community’s most infamous members — the one and only MANIFESTIS — is back after an extended leave of absence from posting. I use the word “infamous” because, well, he’s not exactly known for his prowess with women, if you catch my drift. Anyway, he’s an interesting character that has a great deal of history, especially with those who have been in Mystery’s Lounge from the beginning. The field report of his first lay was really funny (and not intentionally so).

Anyway, here’s a link to his first post in a long while. There’s noting in it worth reading, really, since it has no redeeming value other than having Manifestis whine and ask for advice. But for those who care, it might be in interesting read. =)

Deconstructing David DeAngelo, Vol. II

April 20, 2004 by  
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Well, the first Deconstruction of David D. stuff seemed to go over well, so I decided to do yet another one.  I think that David D. has a lot of great stuff to be aware of when it comes to picking-up women, especially if you’re a beginner.  I guess these Deconstructions are more for guys who aren’t as advanced in this stuff, but I know that it helps me when I go back and read these newsletters because sometimes its easy to forget the basics.

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Making Girls Chase for Sex

April 20, 2004 by  
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A poster who is quickly becoming a favorite of mine is Nightblue, who I think has been posting a lot of great stuff lately. I had a talk with Tyler recently and he seems to agree that ol’ NB is definitely a guy who’s posts are worth reading. He recently put up a pretty good post about how to make girls chase you for sex in a seduction venue, which I found to be rather intriguing…

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Being talkative

April 20, 2004 by  
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I found this post on mASF Advanced about Achieving the Talkative State Before Approaching:

Narcissisto writes:
What’s the best way of getting into the talkative state before approaching? What’s the best way of keeping that state, or getting back to it if you let someone change it?

I think this is one of the hardest things to do when it comes to pick-up. I call it being in “social mode.” Most people get so complacent in their comfort zones, that it is just too hard for them to approach other people! But there are little tricks you can do to shift yourself out of your comfort zone and into social mode.

Often times, when I’m out to sarge with a wingman, they will instantly want to “do some sets” and start talking to girls right away. To me, this is very hard to do if I’m in my comfort zone, because the LAST thing I feel like doing is talking to girls. Most of my best nights have been when I’ve warmed-up properly and gotten into social mode BEFORE approaching girls. There are a few things that go into this:

1. Knowing what to talk about
2. Warming up with people who you do not have a vested outcome in mind.
3. Having High energy

I think these 3 things are important when getting into social mode. Knowing what to say can help you get the ball rolling on a lot of things, and saves your brain time and effort in thinking about how to get a conversation going.

When it comes to warming up with people who you do not have a vested outcome in mind, what I’m talking about here is namely — Men and Ugs. People you have no interest in fucking. Because you divest yourself of an outcome with these people, it helps you to get the mouth moving and get your energy up before approaching the real targets.

Getting High energy is usually either the first or last thing you will do. Going into warm-ups with a high energy already will help you to engage other people. If your energy is down, simply getting into good conversations with strangers will help to pump it up, because you’ll start to break out of your comfort zone.

I talk more about this in my book The Art of Approaching and will probably write an article about this topic soon, because I think it’s really important to know how to get social in environments where you want to pick-up.

I’d also like to add that having a few drinks in you can help. Sad, but true. =)

Persistence is Key

April 20, 2004 by  
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Gunwitch has a post up on mASF about the single most important trait a pick-up artist should have, that of PERSISTENCE. I usually don’t agree with much of what Gunwitch writes, but I found this post to be pretty good. I tend to agree that persistence is probably a deciding factor in who gets laid and who doesn’t. I know of some guys out there who get laid simply because they don’t give up! And that’s a good thing.

Anyway, on to Gunwitch’s post…

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Poll Correction

April 20, 2004 by  
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Oops.  Looks like I left out DYD in the poll results (or maybe someone paid me off!  You never know.  =)

I’ve corrected the mistake.  DYD chimed in with 4 votes.

Givers & Takers

April 19, 2004 by  
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So there’s a product out there called Advanced Macking which purports to be the “Lazy Man’s Guide to One Night Stands.” I don’t have the product, so I don’t know if it’s quality or it’s shit (most likely the latter), but they did release a recent newsletter which I found pretty interesting, despite all the Don Juan references and jargon…

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PUA Poll #1 Results

April 19, 2004 by  
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Okay, well, I gave it three days so it’s time to render the results of the first PUA Poll on the Lair.  Some of you didn’t follow the instructions and voted for more than one method (you know who you are!).  But I decided to count the votes anyway, since I didn’t feel like disqualifying the posts of those people who took the time to reply.  =)

Anyway, the results are as follows:

High Status Male — 1 vote
Seduction Science — 1 vote
The James Method — 2 votes
SS — 3 votes
Badboy Method — 3 votes
Gunwitch Method — 4 votes
Double Your Dating — 4 votes
Mystery Method — 5 votes
Swinggcat/Real World Seduction — 5 votes

and the winner of the poll is…

Real Social Dynamics — 8 votes

I’d like to point out that RSD also got the most votes from the people who DID follow the guidelines and only chose 1 method.  Looks like TD and crew are doing something right.  =)

Style’s Girlfriends

April 19, 2004 by  
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I found a post as I was surfing through mASF entitled "Style has 12 GFs, how does he do it?  Managing HBs."  I found this quite funny.  For those guys who were at the PUA Summit in LA recently, you’ll probably know what this title is referring to, since Style had about 6 of his ladies show up during his speech.

Asking how Style has 12 girlfriends is like asking Pai Mei to teach you the 5 point palm exploding heart technique.  Only those who truely deserve the knowledge will eventually attain it after years of grueling training at the cruel hand of Style.  Much mental and physical torture must be endured to truely appreciate what it takes to achieve such a level of social mastery.

Right now I’m dealing with three girls, and the sheer logistics of that alone is something that is almost overwhelming for me.  I can’t imagine dealing with 12.  But the notion of how to manage multiple long term relationships and multiple partners is an interesting one, and it’s primirilly what this thread is dealing with.

There’s not too much good information in the thread.  I just liked the title.  There is a reason why Style is the most powerful of the jedi, after all.

On a Personal Note…

April 19, 2004 by  
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I had a great weekend this last week.  I really didn’t do too much in the way of PUA really, but it was very relaxing and very much a "Mental Health Vacation."  I did a lot of solo stuff, going out in Pasadena on Friday night and hitting up Santa Monica on Saturday.  Had a few good approaches with girls, nothing too special.  I ended up seeing both Kill Bill Vol. 2 and The Punisher this weekend.  All I can say is Kill Bill was AWESOME!  Better than the first one.  I enjoyed The Punisher as well, but that’s probably because I was a fan of the comic and not in the mood for thinking while I was watching it.  =)

The Sopranos this weekend was really good.  I loved the subplot with Christopher and his AA buddy.  Classic.  Deadwood wasn’t all too exciting, but I find the characters in that show so interesting that it’s hard to be bored by it.  I also caught the new Chris Rock special "Never Scared."  Not as funny as "Bigger and Blacker," but still good.  If there are any guys out there who want to improve their sense of humor, study Chris Rock.  He’s at his funniest when he talks about male/female relationships and truisms.  Watch how he talks about them to get a sense of what people find funny — namely, the stuff we all know but no one wants to verbalize.  Great stuff.

As far as those who wanted to know about my field-rejected Kill Bill routine, well, I’m not gonna share it.  Maybe at some point in the future I may if I recieve a large enough bribe, but I will tell you there’s a reason why it’s "field-rejected," so I’ll save you all the misery of reading it (though its true nature cannot be appreciated until you see it in person, lol).

Okay, enough silly rants about reality distractions.  Back to Pick-Up & Seduction.  =)

HIV Outbreak in Pornoland

April 19, 2004 by  
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I heard about this story last week, and found it to be quite sad, especially since living in LA, most of the people affected by this type of thing are in my immediate area. There has been an HIV scare in the adult industry after a major male porno star, Darren James, contracted HIV during a vacation in Brazil (where I read somewhere that a great deal of the prostitutes down there have HIV and can buy fake bills of health for around $10 American). Now, people who work in porn get tested once every three weeks for HIV, but apparently James came back to work and did scenes with around 12 different people before he was retested after his return from South America.

Of those 12 original people (called the 1st generation), each one of those people could have had sex with up to 12 other people each. It’s said there could be as many as 5 generation within the adult industry alone. One 18 year old girl who had been in porn for less than three months has already contracted the disease from Darren James after being in a gangbang scene with him. There’s no telling how many people could be affected.

Because of this, the adult video industry is halting production for up to 60 days until they can get this whole mess sorted out and figure out who’s infected and who isn’t. Of course, this means that there are going to be a lot of women in and around the San Fernando Valley who are going to be without a steady income for the next month or two. What does this mean? Well, basically the local strip clubs are going to be PACKED with girls looking to whether the storm, as well and prostitutes and escorts upping their time out on the street. Of course, for all you know, these girls could be infected with HIV and they don’t even know it.

I guess this brings up an interesting concern when it comes to guys who try and have as much sex as “Players” and “Pick-Up Artists” do. It’s one I’ve heard echoed by a great many guys in the community, and that is “What about STDs?”

Well, there is no easy answer to this. Typically, the response I get from seasoned PUAs when I have asked this question is “Always wear a condom.” There’s not much more you can do other than that, really. But still, there is that danger whenever you meet someone that they could be a loaded gun waiting to go off. I know that a good friend of mine was told by a girl he was seeing that he gave her an STD, and for two weeks until he got his test results back, he thought his life was over. This is a scary things folks.

I’d like to hear other people’s thoughts on this, and any tactics/techniques they may have on how to stay safe and clean when it comes to getting down and dirty.

Oh, and by the way, if you’re interested in finding out more about this Pornoland HIV scare, check out Adult Video News for all the latest details.

AoA: How to Find Good Places to Approach

April 16, 2004 by  
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How to Find Good Places to Approach
By Thundercat

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There’s a saying that goes “All men are created equal.”  And while that may be true, that is not always the case for LOCATIONS.  In sales, they say that having a successful business is about three things:  Location, location, location.  And if your business is “I wanna meet me a girl!” then the same can hold true.

The location you are in will heavily influence the type of girls you will meet.  Not only that, but location also holds sway over how well a woman will receive you.  For instance, a woman at a bar will react differently to you approaching her than a woman at a funeral would.  In this respect, it is important that you not only find a location where women are plentiful, but one where they are more open to talking to you.

I would also argue that it’s more important to find a place where women are more open to talk to you than a place where women are plentiful, the reason being that women who are more open to talking to you will lead to a more meaningful and successful interaction than a place where there are lots of women, but none of them feel like being approached (though chances are you WILL find girls open to talking to you just by the sheer number of women present.)

Regardless, in my estimation, there are only two types of environments where you can pick-up women:

1. Stimulus rich environments
2. Low stimulus environments

Typically, stimulus rich environments are places where there will be lots of women, but they may not be as open to talk to you.  Places like bars, clubs, and concerts are typically full of loud music, dancing, alcohol, and sometimes even drugs.  In places like that, it can be very hard to approach, due to the fact you must compete with so many distractions.  However, people in these environments are more open to INTERACTING with others, which is an important distinction to make.  By interacting with you, women give you the opportunity you need to get them into an environment where they are more open to talking.

For instance, if you approach a woman in a loud bar and get her intrigued with your Opener, you might be able to get her to follow you to the patio or a quieter place in the club where you can talk to her.  In this case, the Opener is opening the doorway for an interaction, not necessarily a conversation.  So bars, clubs, and other stimulus rich environments depend on you being able to interact with a girl quickly, intrigue her by presenting a stimulus that distracts her from all the other stimulus in the environment, and getting her into a new environment with fewer distractions.

On the other hand, you have places where it might be easy to engage a woman in a conversation.  These are places like coffee shops, bookstores, grocery stores, malls, etc.  There are low stimulus environments.  In these places, women may be more open to conversation, but less open to interaction.  This is because these venues represent places that are “safe” or “average” to people, so the lack of stimulus means they are more accepting of distractions that may come along (ie, a guy looking to talk to them).  But because these places are low stimulus, people are often less open to interacting with others because they are in their “personal bubble.”  This means that even if they talk to you and have a conversation with you, they may put up some resistance to interacting with you.  However, this resistance can be easily overcome if you know how to engage a woman properly.

So now that you know the two types of environments that exist for Approaching, it is time to find places near you that suit your needs and style of approaching.  Basically, look at what your town or city has to offer.  Nightclubs and bars are always a sure bet to find women.  It’s the low stimulus environments that are tough to peg down.  Sometimes restaurants with bars are great places to go, because it’s not quite a bar.  Outdoor areas that have many shops around them are good too.

Basically, anyplace you go has the potential to be a good place to meet women.  Once you find a good place, familiarize yourself with the location. Become comfortable in it.  Figure out the best times to go there.

But most importantly, find a place that’s relatively close to you.  Locations that are close by where you live are ideal, because chances are you’ll meet a woman who lives nearby.  Not only that, but your chances of getting her to come over and visit you that same day are also high, if you’re engaging and aggressive enough.  If the location is too far away, be prepared to settle for a phone number and hope it’s not too far to drive.

All this comes down to is whether or not you can be engaging with a woman and get her intrigued.  How’s the best way to do this, you ask?  Well, in my opinion, it’s with a good Opener!  You can find many different examples of Openers that are proven to work in my book The Art of Approaching, that teaches you how to meet any woman, any time, anywhere you may be.

To your success!

Thundercat

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