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I heard about this story last week, and found it to be quite sad, especially since living in LA, most of the people affected by this type of thing are in my immediate area. There has been an HIV scare in the adult industry after a major male porno star, Darren James, contracted HIV during a vacation in Brazil (where I read somewhere that a great deal of the prostitutes down there have HIV and can buy fake bills of health for around $10 American). Now, people who work in porn get tested once every three weeks for HIV, but apparently James came back to work and did scenes with around 12 different people before he was retested after his return from South America.

Of those 12 original people (called the 1st generation), each one of those people could have had sex with up to 12 other people each. It’s said there could be as many as 5 generation within the adult industry alone. One 18 year old girl who had been in porn for less than three months has already contracted the disease from Darren James after being in a gangbang scene with him. There’s no telling how many people could be affected.

Because of this, the adult video industry is halting production for up to 60 days until they can get this whole mess sorted out and figure out who’s infected and who isn’t. Of course, this means that there are going to be a lot of women in and around the San Fernando Valley who are going to be without a steady income for the next month or two. What does this mean? Well, basically the local strip clubs are going to be PACKED with girls looking to whether the storm, as well and prostitutes and escorts upping their time out on the street. Of course, for all you know, these girls could be infected with HIV and they don’t even know it.

I guess this brings up an interesting concern when it comes to guys who try and have as much sex as “Players” and “Pick-Up Artists” do. It’s one I’ve heard echoed by a great many guys in the community, and that is “What about STDs?”

Well, there is no easy answer to this. Typically, the response I get from seasoned PUAs when I have asked this question is “Always wear a condom.” There’s not much more you can do other than that, really. But still, there is that danger whenever you meet someone that they could be a loaded gun waiting to go off. I know that a good friend of mine was told by a girl he was seeing that he gave her an STD, and for two weeks until he got his test results back, he thought his life was over. This is a scary things folks.

I’d like to hear other people’s thoughts on this, and any tactics/techniques they may have on how to stay safe and clean when it comes to getting down and dirty.

Oh, and by the way, if you’re interested in finding out more about this Pornoland HIV scare, check out Adult Video News for all the latest details.

AoA: How to Find Good Places to Approach

How to Find Good Places to Approach
By Thundercat

Get Your Copy Here

There’s a saying that goes “All men are created equal.”  And while that may be true, that is not always the case for LOCATIONS.  In sales, they say that having a successful business is about three things:  Location, location, location.  And if your business is “I wanna meet me a girl!” then the same can hold true.

The location you are in will heavily influence the type of girls you will meet.  Not only that, but location also holds sway over how well a woman will receive you.  For instance, a woman at a bar will react differently to you approaching her than a woman at a funeral would.  In this respect, it is important that you not only find a location where women are plentiful, but one where they are more open to talking to you.

I would also argue that it’s more important to find a place where women are more open to talk to you than a place where women are plentiful, the reason being that women who are more open to talking to you will lead to a more meaningful and successful interaction than a place where there are lots of women, but none of them feel like being approached (though chances are you WILL find girls open to talking to you just by the sheer number of women present.)

Regardless, in my estimation, there are only two types of environments where you can pick-up women:

1. Stimulus rich environments
2. Low stimulus environments

Typically, stimulus rich environments are places where there will be lots of women, but they may not be as open to talk to you.  Places like bars, clubs, and concerts are typically full of loud music, dancing, alcohol, and sometimes even drugs.  In places like that, it can be very hard to approach, due to the fact you must compete with so many distractions.  However, people in these environments are more open to INTERACTING with others, which is an important distinction to make.  By interacting with you, women give you the opportunity you need to get them into an environment where they are more open to talking.

For instance, if you approach a woman in a loud bar and get her intrigued with your Opener, you might be able to get her to follow you to the patio or a quieter place in the club where you can talk to her.  In this case, the Opener is opening the doorway for an interaction, not necessarily a conversation.  So bars, clubs, and other stimulus rich environments depend on you being able to interact with a girl quickly, intrigue her by presenting a stimulus that distracts her from all the other stimulus in the environment, and getting her into a new environment with fewer distractions.

On the other hand, you have places where it might be easy to engage a woman in a conversation.  These are places like coffee shops, bookstores, grocery stores, malls, etc.  There are low stimulus environments.  In these places, women may be more open to conversation, but less open to interaction.  This is because these venues represent places that are “safe” or “average” to people, so the lack of stimulus means they are more accepting of distractions that may come along (ie, a guy looking to talk to them).  But because these places are low stimulus, people are often less open to interacting with others because they are in their “personal bubble.”  This means that even if they talk to you and have a conversation with you, they may put up some resistance to interacting with you.  However, this resistance can be easily overcome if you know how to engage a woman properly.

So now that you know the two types of environments that exist for Approaching, it is time to find places near you that suit your needs and style of approaching.  Basically, look at what your town or city has to offer.  Nightclubs and bars are always a sure bet to find women.  It’s the low stimulus environments that are tough to peg down.  Sometimes restaurants with bars are great places to go, because it’s not quite a bar.  Outdoor areas that have many shops around them are good too.

Basically, anyplace you go has the potential to be a good place to meet women.  Once you find a good place, familiarize yourself with the location. Become comfortable in it.  Figure out the best times to go there.

But most importantly, find a place that’s relatively close to you.  Locations that are close by where you live are ideal, because chances are you’ll meet a woman who lives nearby.  Not only that, but your chances of getting her to come over and visit you that same day are also high, if you’re engaging and aggressive enough.  If the location is too far away, be prepared to settle for a phone number and hope it’s not too far to drive.

All this comes down to is whether or not you can be engaging with a woman and get her intrigued.  How’s the best way to do this, you ask?  Well, in my opinion, it’s with a good Opener!  You can find many different examples of Openers that are proven to work in my book The Art of Approaching, that teaches you how to meet any woman, any time, anywhere you may be.

To your success!

Thundercat

PUA Poll

Okay, since it’s a bit slow today I figured I’d try something I’ve been thinking about for a while and conduct the site’s first official "Poll," so to speak.  I’d like to get a consensus on a few topics, and figure now is as good a time as any to try it out.

Okay, so for today’s first poll, I was inspired by a post on the mASF boards that said that fast-seduction is really only comprized of 2 methods: Gunwitch and Mystery/RSD Method.  So here is the question:

Which of the following methods do you think is the most effective?

1.  Double Your Dating
2.  High Status Male
3.  BadBoy Method
4.  Gunwitch Method
5.  Mystery Method
6.  Real Social Dynamics/TD
7.  Swinggcat/Real World Seduction
8.  The James Method
9.  Seduction Science
10.  SS

The rules of the poll are:  You can only pick 1 choice.  Please post your vote in the "Comments" section, with a brief description as to why you think it is the best method.  The poll will go on until Monday where I’ll determine the winner by popular vote.

Let the games begin!

Phone game crap

I was on the phone today with a girl.  I’ve been "sort of" seeing her for a while now, and we talk on the phone pretty reguarly.  Tonight was probably our longest conversation, since we’re usually so busy.  She was upset about something that happened to her at work and spent 98% of the conversation using me as her emotional tampon.  At first I was making some jokes about her situation, and she’d laugh, but then she’d get right back into talking about how bad her day was.  I really didn’t want to hear about it, but she seemed dead set on venting.  So I turned it around by becoming an authority on the problem she was having and told her how to handle it.

This girl responds REALLY well to me taking a strong lead.  I can remember one time I left her a message telling her that she MUST call me back a certain time, not a minute later, not a minute sooner, and you know what?  She did.  She told me how she likes it when I tell her what to do (ah, the possibilities!).

Anyway, I found it interesting because back in my AFC days, I’d have let her drone on and on about what was grieving her and try to relate to her situation.  But by the end of me telling her what she had to do, she was ready to move on to more enjoyable topics, which I obliged by doing a few guided visualizations with her.

Back in my SS days, I did this a lot on the phone.  I don’t really do too much hypno-stuff anymore, but I busted out the old skillset, dropped my tonality, changed the pacing of my voice, and did the "Ideal Vacation" thing with her.  I figured a girl who likes guidance this much would go gaga over one of these visualization things.  Turns out I was right.  =)

This one’s getting close, boys.  I’ts not "fast seduction" per say, but it’s low maintenence and fun.  I’d be curious to hear about other people’s phone games, and the stuff they do with women.  After a while I just tend to drop all routines and be myself (usually after the 3rd phone convo).  Let me know if you guys got any tricks.

Kiss Me, Kill Bill…

Kill Bill Vol. 2 is coming out today.  I am psyched!!!!  I loved Vol. 1 (it also gave me one of my WORST routines ever. 100% field rejected, but it taught me alot =)

I hear this one is going to be less "action" and more "Cool Tarantino dialogue" oriented.  Everyone I’ve heard from who’s seen it has told me it’s better than the first one, so I think I’m in for a treat.

How does this relate to Pick-Up?  It doesn’t.  Slow news day.  =)

Sexual Subcommunication, al-la Robert Green

So there’s that topic of "Sexual Subcommunication" that seems to be so elusive to us cassanova types.  But one Cassanova in particular over at the Art of Seduction Message Boards decided he wanted to talk about it further, and it caught the attention of the great Robert Green, author of the excelent book The Art of Seduction.

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Personal Hygene

It may seem like common sense, but I’ve met enough of the guys in this community to know that a primer like this is desperately needed…

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Kill Your Desperation

There’s a really, really good post by Pook over at the DJ Discussion Forum about how women can pick-up on desperation in a man and what men can do to get rid of that desperation. It is funny how women have a kind-of 6th sense about that sort of thing (it’s almost as if they can SMELL how horny we are, lol). But then again, when you learn to see the signs, as women have, perhaps it’s not such a mystical thing…

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Cutting through the bullshit

Lifeforce had a really excellent post over on the Don Juan message boards about a paradime shift he had in his way of thinking, that I feel might be something that others who study this stuff may eventually go through at some point in their development.  Its a bit of a touchy-feely post, but I think it hits a few fundamental points that should be addressed.

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Swinggcat’s Litter Box, Vol. 1

Demystifying Charisma…
By Swinggcat
Author of Real World Seduction

Hey guys,

A few nights ago, I went barhopping with a friend of mine. We both talked to truck loads of women and used practically the same material on them. But by the end of the night my friend’s results were so bad he felt that he was blessed with an unlikable self.

My experience, however, was the total opposite. I felt like Satan with pitchfork in hand, inciting one girl after the next to engage in some naughty mirth. Was it because of my looks? Was it because I have some impalpable quality about me called “charisma,” which is not teachable? Was it because I am Satan? No – it was none of these things. Instead, it was due to a set of learned skills. I know this because, similar to my friend, I spent years feeling like a boring sloth before transforming myself into a flittering butterfly charming one group of women to the next.   

But before I reveal to you the skills that distinguish a charismatic Casanova from a floundering Waldo, I am going to give you a quick overview of my method, Naturalized Attraction

Naturalized Attraction is not about trying to apply therapeutic techniques used in psychology to dating, attracting, and seducing women. Nor is it based upon the unfounded claims propounded by the “let’s play pseudo-psychologist to the helpless, needy and pathetic” gurus of the world – think Dr. Phil!

The starting point of “Naturalized Attraction” is always the REAL WORLD. The method strives to observe, model, and improve upon both the natural social behaviors that generate attraction in women, and the glue that holds these behaviors together. Our culture has mystified this glue under the rubric “charisma” as an innate, intangible, non-teachable quality possessed only by blessed individuals. “Charisma,” however, is actually the combination of a few learnable and repeatable skills.

So this begs the question: What skills constitute charisma and how does a person go about acquiring these skills?

Two skills that play a mainstay in being charismatic are: owning your material, and having a strong intent. Let’s start with the first one, owning your material. There are a lot of men who cringe at the idea of having well rehearsed jokes and stories prepared for social interactions. You might be one of these men. If so, think about this: Most socially adept people will unconsciously tell the same jokes and stories over and over again, honing them to perfection. Oftentimes, however, once a person is made conscious of, for example, using a rehearsed story, he begins to worry that he will come across to women as rehearsed. He may develop a guilty conscience about using his story, thinking to himself that using rehearsed material is akin to wiling a woman into the sack. These insecurities are ludicrous. I have never met a single socially adept person who used completely new material in every social interaction. Purge your self of these worries. Remember: Whether you are conscious of it or not, having at least some rehearsed material is part of having strong social skills.

Men with strong social skills are able to simultaneously engage a woman – with, for example, quips and stories – while also analyzing what they need to do to further engage and attract her (Note: I define “attraction” not as how a woman judges you, but as what you do to her mind and body. Attraction or as I call it “Prizing” is getting a woman so emotionally charged, she is compelled to chase you).  I have a friend who is a master at this. He can flow from one story to the next while simultaneously gauging a woman’s level of attraction for him. This allows him to “in real time” make adjustments to his material that will further engage and attract the woman to him. When you have well rehearsed material your brain power will not be expended on remembering, for example, a particular jest or story. Instead, you will have extra brain power to analyze what you need to do to further engage and attract her.   

I am bit fastidious, however, about people using others material. If you are using someone else’s material, you risk coming across as fake. I have witnessed men rambling on for a good hour, talking about their friend’s adventures and experiences as if they were their own. Once they ran out of material, the women they were engaging almost always walked away. Why did this happen? I think women intuitively know when men are incongruent and inauthentic. When, on the contrary, you use your own material, even if it is rehearsed, it will be authentic because you are displaying who you are. A few minutes of authentic material about your self – who you are, what you are about, your experiences and adventures…and so on – will get you further with women than a man who goes on for hours with inauthentic material borrowed from other people.

Having a strong intent also plays an important role in acting charismatic. A few years back, women would often times lose interest while talking to me or think that I was B.S.-ing them. The reason was that they were picking up on my weak intent. Even the girls lumbered with IQs barley into the double digits picked up on this weakness. My problem: I needed to develop a strong intent.

But what does it mean to have a strong intent? This is one of the most misunderstood terms out there. This is due to the follies of some of the branches within the field of psychology – such as, Neuro-Linguistic Programming – that fails to be precise when defining terminology. Having a strong intent is most commonly misunderstood as meaning: A congruency between a person’s external behaviors and his internal beliefs. This is, however, not the meaning but the symptom of having a strong intent.

Having a strong intent is congruently:

1) Having the desire and the will to do what needs to be done to achieve a particular outcome.
2) Having the unwavering belief that you will achieve the intended outcome.   

If a person has the desire and the will to do what needs to be done to achieve a particular outcome but does not have the belief that he can achieve it, he will come across as needy. This used to be me. Although I had the desire and the will to do what needs to be done to achieve a particular outcome, I did not believe or think that I deserved the outcome.

One thing that has helped me tremendously is rehearsing the outcome of everything I intend to get an effect from. So, for example, if I intend to tell a story to intrigue a woman, I will rehearse in my mind her being intrigued by my story. If, for example, I intend to have a woman lean in and try to kiss me after I have kissed her and pulled back, I will rehearse this over and over again in my mind.

When you are in an attraction flow – achieving one intended outcome to the next – the material qua tools for achieving these outcomes become transparent. When driving somewhere, for example, you barely notice the car. All you are concerned with is getting to the desired place. It is only when, for example, you get a flat tire that you become conscious again of the car as a tool used to get you to your intended destination. Likewise, it only becomes obvious to you and the woman that you are trying to do something to get a particular outcome when something interrupts the attraction flow, such as: stumbling over your words because you don’t know your material well, or not having the belief that you are capable of getting your intended outcome…or whatever.

But all of the intended outcomes we have been discussing – getting her intrigued, getting her to kiss you…and so on – are only tools to achieve the META-INTENT: Getting her to sleep with you.

When a person has mastered the attraction flow, everything becomes transparent except the fact that he and the woman are going to sleep together – they both know it is going to happen. When a woman encounters a man of this caliber, she will often speak about that quality she can’t quite put her finger on that draws her to him. In this culture we oftentimes classify this behavior as “charisma.”

In the REAL WORLD it comes down to controlling the META-FRAME, and having both a stronger reality and META-INTENT than the woman you are attracting. All of this stuff is covered in my book or will be covered in some of my upcoming products. If you are ready to take your persuasion skills to the next level, come visit me:   

‘Till next time,

Swinggcat

Swinggcat’s Litter Box, Vol. 1

Demystifying Charisma…
By Swinggcat
Author of Real World Seduction

Hey guys,

A few nights ago, I went barhopping with a friend of mine. We both talked to truck loads of women and used practically the same material on them. But by the end of the night my friend’s results were so bad he felt that he was blessed with an unlikable self.

My experience, however, was the total opposite. I felt like Satan with pitchfork in hand, inciting one girl after the next to engage in some naughty mirth. Was it because of my looks? Was it because I have some impalpable quality about me called “charisma,” which is not teachable? Was it because I am Satan? No – it was none of these things. Instead, it was due to a set of learned skills. I know this because, similar to my friend, I spent years feeling like a boring sloth before transforming myself into a flittering butterfly charming one group of women to the next.   

But before I reveal to you the skills that distinguish a charismatic Casanova from a floundering Waldo, I am going to give you a quick overview of my method, Naturalized Attraction

Naturalized Attraction is not about trying to apply therapeutic techniques used in psychology to dating, attracting, and seducing women. Nor is it based upon the unfounded claims propounded by the “let’s play pseudo-psychologist to the helpless, needy and pathetic” gurus of the world – think Dr. Phil!

The starting point of “Naturalized Attraction” is always the REAL WORLD. The method strives to observe, model, and improve upon both the natural social behaviors that generate attraction in women, and the glue that holds these behaviors together. Our culture has mystified this glue under the rubric “charisma” as an innate, intangible, non-teachable quality possessed only by blessed individuals. “Charisma,” however, is actually the combination of a few learnable and repeatable skills.

So this begs the question: What skills constitute charisma and how does a person go about acquiring these skills?

Two skills that play a mainstay in being charismatic are: owning your material, and having a strong intent. Let’s start with the first one, owning your material. There are a lot of men who cringe at the idea of having well rehearsed jokes and stories prepared for social interactions. You might be one of these men. If so, think about this: Most socially adept people will unconsciously tell the same jokes and stories over and over again, honing them to perfection. Oftentimes, however, once a person is made conscious of, for example, using a rehearsed story, he begins to worry that he will come across to women as rehearsed. He may develop a guilty conscience about using his story, thinking to himself that using rehearsed material is akin to wiling a woman into the sack. These insecurities are ludicrous. I have never met a single socially adept person who used completely new material in every social interaction. Purge your self of these worries. Remember: Whether you are conscious of it or not, having at least some rehearsed material is part of having strong social skills.

Men with strong social skills are able to simultaneously engage a woman – with, for example, quips and stories – while also analyzing what they need to do to further engage and attract her (Note: I define “attraction” not as how a woman judges you, but as what you do to her mind and body. Attraction or as I call it “Prizing” is getting a woman so emotionally charged, she is compelled to chase you).  I have a friend who is a master at this. He can flow from one story to the next while simultaneously gauging a woman’s level of attraction for him. This allows him to “in real time” make adjustments to his material that will further engage and attract the woman to him. When you have well rehearsed material your brain power will not be expended on remembering, for example, a particular jest or story. Instead, you will have extra brain power to analyze what you need to do to further engage and attract her.   

I am bit fastidious, however, about people using others material. If you are using someone else’s material, you risk coming across as fake. I have witnessed men rambling on for a good hour, talking about their friend’s adventures and experiences as if they were their own. Once they ran out of material, the women they were engaging almost always walked away. Why did this happen? I think women intuitively know when men are incongruent and inauthentic. When, on the contrary, you use your own material, even if it is rehearsed, it will be authentic because you are displaying who you are. A few minutes of authentic material about your self – who you are, what you are about, your experiences and adventures…and so on – will get you further with women than a man who goes on for hours with inauthentic material borrowed from other people.

Having a strong intent also plays an important role in acting charismatic. A few years back, women would often times lose interest while talking to me or think that I was B.S.-ing them. The reason was that they were picking up on my weak intent. Even the girls lumbered with IQs barley into the double digits picked up on this weakness. My problem: I needed to develop a strong intent.

But what does it mean to have a strong intent? This is one of the most misunderstood terms out there. This is due to the follies of some of the branches within the field of psychology – such as, Neuro-Linguistic Programming – that fails to be precise when defining terminology. Having a strong intent is most commonly misunderstood as meaning: A congruency between a person’s external behaviors and his internal beliefs. This is, however, not the meaning but the symptom of having a strong intent.

Having a strong intent is congruently:

1) Having the desire and the will to do what needs to be done to achieve a particular outcome.
2) Having the unwavering belief that you will achieve the intended outcome.   

If a person has the desire and the will to do what needs to be done to achieve a particular outcome but does not have the belief that he can achieve it, he will come across as needy. This used to be me. Although I had the desire and the will to do what needs to be done to achieve a particular outcome, I did not believe or think that I deserved the outcome.

One thing that has helped me tremendously is rehearsing the outcome of everything I intend to get an effect from. So, for example, if I intend to tell a story to intrigue a woman, I will rehearse in my mind her being intrigued by my story. If, for example, I intend to have a woman lean in and try to kiss me after I have kissed her and pulled back, I will rehearse this over and over again in my mind.

When you are in an attraction flow – achieving one intended outcome to the next – the material qua tools for achieving these outcomes become transparent. When driving somewhere, for example, you barely notice the car. All you are concerned with is getting to the desired place. It is only when, for example, you get a flat tire that you become conscious again of the car as a tool used to get you to your intended destination. Likewise, it only becomes obvious to you and the woman that you are trying to do something to get a particular outcome when something interrupts the attraction flow, such as: stumbling over your words because you don’t know your material well, or not having the belief that you are capable of getting your intended outcome…or whatever.

But all of the intended outcomes we have been discussing – getting her intrigued, getting her to kiss you…and so on – are only tools to achieve the META-INTENT: Getting her to sleep with you.

When a person has mastered the attraction flow, everything becomes transparent except the fact that he and the woman are going to sleep together – they both know it is going to happen. When a woman encounters a man of this caliber, she will often speak about that quality she can’t quite put her finger on that draws her to him. In this culture we oftentimes classify this behavior as “charisma.”

In the REAL WORLD it comes down to controlling the META-FRAME, and having both a stronger reality and META-INTENT than the woman you are attracting. All of this stuff is covered in my book or will be covered in some of my upcoming products. If you are ready to take your persuasion skills to the next level, come visit me:   

‘Till next time,

Swinggcat

TD Sequencing

Tyler has an interesting post up that outlines some things that he thinks about while he’s in set. I’m not reposting the WHOLE thing here, just the meat of what his post is about.

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Playboy Love

One of the big up-and-comers in the scene is PlayboyLA, one of the Project Hollywood guys. Lately, he’s been doing a lot of winging with Tyler Durden and seems to be having some AMAZING success. I’ve seen this guy in person work a crowd, and I gotta say, I’m quite impressed with what I’ve seen.

Playboy recently posted a Lay Report on mASF that I think is a really good example of not only his game, but Tylers, so if you guys want to check it out, I’m sure you can get a LOT from it. He shares a lot of his routines he uses in his interactions, and his reports are a pretty entertaining read.

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“I’m Tired…”

Tyler Durden chimes in with a good little post about that time-tested excuse “I’m tired.”

Tyler Durden writes:
The “I’m tired” thing is most often an excuse that people will throw up as an excuse for not being able to keep up with the interaction. People are joking around and talking about cool shit, and you’re out-alpha’ed by it and your brain freezes up. So you say “I’m tired” as an excuse.

I use to use it when I was an AFC, to excuse my inability to hold conversations with women. Women also use it on me now all the time. Guys I wing with also wont’ be able to keep up with me, and I’ll see them saying it to the girls.

Nothing is GAINED by saying it. So don’t say it. It won’t make the girl feel like you’re opening up, and it won’t make her feel more connection with you.

I’ve taken the Juggler workshop, and I know his material extremely well. He has some great stuff. When he’s suggesting that you open up the the girl, its under a different context.

BTW, as with all “rules” in the 25 Points post, none of them matter so long as you are congruent with what you’re doing. You can lean in, ask questions, or anything, so long as the girl doesn’t PERCEIVE it as you trying to impress.

Bottom Line: She doesn’t perceive you as having lower status, as a result of your actions.

The 25 Points are just common examples of ways that guys make these kinds of errors. They are not to be taken dogmatically.

I think Tyler is quite right about the whole “I’m tired” line. I know I’ve been guilty of this on more than one occasion. Anyway, this is 1 response in a much longer thread, if you want to read the whole thing, click here.

“I’m Tired…”

Tyler Durden chimes in with a good little post about that time-tested excuse “I’m tired.”

Tyler Durden writes:
The “I’m tired” thing is most often an excuse that people will throw up as an excuse for not being able to keep up with the interaction. People are joking around and talking about cool shit, and you’re out-alpha’ed by it and your brain freezes up. So you say “I’m tired” as an excuse.

I use to use it when I was an AFC, to excuse my inability to hold conversations with women. Women also use it on me now all the time. Guys I wing with also wont’ be able to keep up with me, and I’ll see them saying it to the girls.

Nothing is GAINED by saying it. So don’t say it. It won’t make the girl feel like you’re opening up, and it won’t make her feel more connection with you.

I’ve taken the Juggler workshop, and I know his material extremely well. He has some great stuff. When he’s suggesting that you open up the the girl, its under a different context.

BTW, as with all “rules” in the 25 Points post, none of them matter so long as you are congruent with what you’re doing. You can lean in, ask questions, or anything, so long as the girl doesn’t PERCEIVE it as you trying to impress.

Bottom Line: She doesn’t perceive you as having lower status, as a result of your actions.

The 25 Points are just common examples of ways that guys make these kinds of errors. They are not to be taken dogmatically.

I think Tyler is quite right about the whole “I’m tired” line. I know I’ve been guilty of this on more than one occasion. Anyway, this is 1 response in a much longer thread, if you want to read the whole thing, click here.

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