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You guys remember that commercial, the one where the mother and the daughter are walking down the beach, the surf crashing up against their bare feet, and the daughter turns to her mom and says:

"You ever have that… not-so-fresh feeling?"

Well, all vaginas aside, I’m beginning to have that feeling.  I’ve been going out in the field constantly lately, and I think it’s wearing on me.  My energy is way down.  I’m a bit depressed because I feel like I’ve hit a plateau.  I’m thinking I may be pushing things a bit too hard and trying to force things to happen when a re-direction of my energies might be more appropriate, especially now as my personal financial situation becomes more dire.  Living in LA is expensive, but living AND sarging in LA has it’s costs.  Those cover fees, parking fees, late night meals, and the occasional drink all start to add up.  =(

If there’s one thing I’ve come to realize in my experiences, it’s that the learning curve has it’s peaks and valleys.  Both are necessary.  But I think the higher the peak, the lower the valley, and I’ve hit some pretty high peaks lately.

What do you guys do when you go through this?  Do you just take a break from sarging entirely?  I’d be hesitant to do that because sarging is very much like working out in the gym.  If you stop workinging out, your muscles deteriorate, and it’s harder to start up working out again.  I don’t want my skills to atrophy, but I can’t keep going at this pace for much longer or I’ll burn out.  I guess I can cut back a bit, but if I do, I feel like I’ll just continue to spin my wheels.

It sucks, I know.  It’ll pass, I know.  Maybe I just need to move to Bolivia for a month and spend my days with $6 whores and $0.24 beers to relieve some steam.

Some BadBoy Workshop News…

So last night I got the chance to chat with Nightlife from the San Diego lair. For those of you who weren’t aware, Nightlife is Croation PUA BadBoy’s American representation. I wanted to know what was up with the BadBoy workshops which seemed to have gotten cancelled, and he told me what was up.

Basically, BadBoy was going through all the proper channels to try and get in the country to teach his scheduled workshops, but the government thought he was too big of an “immigration risk,” thinking that he was trying to get in the country to stay rather than for legitimate business reasons. Nightlife and BadBoy are trying to get their acts together and present proof of business to the US Government so BadBoy can be admitted to the country. So hopefully in a couple of months we could see some BadBoy workshops on US soil. =)

Also, it seemed that BadBoy’s website, www.playboylifestyle.net was down for a while. This was because BadBoy forgot to pay his hosting fee while doing his Amsterdam workshop. Things look to be all fixed up now.

I’ve been hearing continuous good things about BadBoy and his workshops. It’s almost TOO good, lol. I haven’t heard of one dissatisfied customer yet. Makes me want to fly out to Eastern Europe and give it a go myself!

David D Lays the Smackdown…

You know, I’ve made fun of David D. for making Al Gore look like the life of the party before, but in his recent newsletter he made me laugh pretty hard.  I don’t really have anything to comment on about this particular exerpt, I just found it quite entertaining.  (Try and picture MINE’99 at his computer typing out the question… it makes it even funnier!)

***QUESTION***

First of all, lets get things straight. I don’t like you. In fact, I hate you. Your success with women disgusts me, and the way you have it down to a science so well that you even make ME laugh sometimes with your smart assed comments to the lamers who write you vexes me. But it intrigues me as well. Your stuff works. So I use it. Doesn’t mean I like you. Just means I like your "tools." 

Anyway, the problem I’m having lately is I meet and flirt with a lot of women using  c&f, but when it comes time for things to get a little physical, they tell me they’re waiting for marriage to do all that! WtF?! Is there a way around this kind of a "defense" that women use on me oh so often?  (Besides dumping their celibate asses.)

Name: D
Location: Bufffalo, New York.

P.S. Why not send me your tips on Valentine’s day BEFORE I go and do something stupid like buy this hot snob a box of chocolates who I’ve known for 2 days?

>>>MY COMMENTS:

You know, this is just a guess, but maybe your challenges with women stem from the dark cloud around your SOUL!

…ahem.

Dude, I can tell that you’re attempting to be funny here, but it also sounds to me like you’ve got some anger issues that might need professional attention.

By the way, the way to "get around" the "I’m waiting for marriage" defense is to stop acting like a bitter WUSSY.

If women consistently tell you "I’m waiting for marriage before I get physical", it can only mean one of two things:

1) You’re shopping for women at the convent.

2) You’re CAUSING the resistance you’re getting.

Most guys don’t realize this, but THEY are the ones who cause women to resist and make excuses.

Really.

And by the way, don’t EVER say that you don’t like me, but you like my TOOL again. That’s not cool.

ROFL.  You can subscribe to David DeAngelo’s newsletter here.

New Best Friend’s Test

Tyler Durden has posted some good tips on the Tactics board of mASF. I found his reworking of the “Best Friend’s Test” to be pretty solid too. =)

Tyler Durden writes:
For girls who interupt you, or tell you what to do like “tell
the story.. tell it, tell it!”, I’ve found this line very useful.

“Hey! It’s too early in our relationship for you to be telling me what to do / interupting me”.

For extracting or venue changing or moving girls in the club, I’ve found this line to have actually changed my game.

“Hey, we’re going to sit down over there. Would you like to join us?” (or add in for a drink or to discuss something).

This line sounds subtle, and it may be hard to see the value on the surface. But the reason I’ve found it to have changed my game, is that first of all it establishes that you’re friends and the verbal sparring or resistance need not continue, and also it says to the girls “You are being called upon to socialize, so you must tee-up things to say” (as Mystery calls F2M attract or whatever).

So I’ve found that the girls are much more talkative when they come to sit down. I think it also feeds into their stereotype of how they think being picked up ought to go down. Either way, I’ve found the girls to be amazingly receptive to this when they come to sit down, and they aren’t so much in that mode of “I’m leaving as soon as I get bored”, when they’ve consented to come sit down and socialize.

I use the line as soon as I see that they really want me to stay, and I’ll use it on a buying temp spike (them laughing or finding something really intriguing).

If I don’t feel that they’d bite on the offer, but I still want them to sit down because I need a clear space where I can work (I always have a priority to move the girls somewhere comfortable ASAP in every set), then I’ll just oversell the CUBE or lying game or some lameass routine, so that they’ll be forced to sit down. Like “You HAVE to see this. It’s amazing. Check this out”, without asking if they want to or not.

THE EXPANDED BEST FRIENDS TEST:

Briefly:
“You guys are best friends aren’t you. You have the exact same posture. And you have the exact same facial expressions. And the big thing, and I’m not sure if all girls do this or what, but every time you go to talk, or I’m talking to you, or you’re about to do something, you guys keep looking at eachother first”

They bust out laughing as they look at eachother’s posture, then again at their facial expressions, and then of course lastly at the looking at eachother.

You can proceed to analyze you and your wing, and other people, under the same criteria.

Good way to blow open the convo.

As always, great stuff from Tyler. You can read teh original post here.

New Best Friend’s Test

Tyler Durden has posted some good tips on the Tactics board of mASF. I found his reworking of the “Best Friend’s Test” to be pretty solid too. =)

Tyler Durden writes:
For girls who interupt you, or tell you what to do like “tell
the story.. tell it, tell it!”, I’ve found this line very useful.

“Hey! It’s too early in our relationship for you to be telling me what to do / interupting me”.

For extracting or venue changing or moving girls in the club, I’ve found this line to have actually changed my game.

“Hey, we’re going to sit down over there. Would you like to join us?” (or add in for a drink or to discuss something).

This line sounds subtle, and it may be hard to see the value on the surface. But the reason I’ve found it to have changed my game, is that first of all it establishes that you’re friends and the verbal sparring or resistance need not continue, and also it says to the girls “You are being called upon to socialize, so you must tee-up things to say” (as Mystery calls F2M attract or whatever).

So I’ve found that the girls are much more talkative when they come to sit down. I think it also feeds into their stereotype of how they think being picked up ought to go down. Either way, I’ve found the girls to be amazingly receptive to this when they come to sit down, and they aren’t so much in that mode of “I’m leaving as soon as I get bored”, when they’ve consented to come sit down and socialize.

I use the line as soon as I see that they really want me to stay, and I’ll use it on a buying temp spike (them laughing or finding something really intriguing).

If I don’t feel that they’d bite on the offer, but I still want them to sit down because I need a clear space where I can work (I always have a priority to move the girls somewhere comfortable ASAP in every set), then I’ll just oversell the CUBE or lying game or some lameass routine, so that they’ll be forced to sit down. Like “You HAVE to see this. It’s amazing. Check this out”, without asking if they want to or not.

THE EXPANDED BEST FRIENDS TEST:

Briefly:
“You guys are best friends aren’t you. You have the exact same posture. And you have the exact same facial expressions. And the big thing, and I’m not sure if all girls do this or what, but every time you go to talk, or I’m talking to you, or you’re about to do something, you guys keep looking at eachother first”

They bust out laughing as they look at eachother’s posture, then again at their facial expressions, and then of course lastly at the looking at eachother.

You can proceed to analyze you and your wing, and other people, under the same criteria.

Good way to blow open the convo.

As always, great stuff from Tyler. You can read teh original post here.

The Power of Detachment

Senior Fingers, over at the DJ discussion boards, has a series of posts he dubs “Weapons of Mass Seduction” (clever, huh?). Anyway, one post of his caught my eye, entitled “The Power of Detachment.” It goes as follows…

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Anti-Dump’s Machine

While skimming through the DJ forums, I found a post that quoted someone by the name of Anti-Dump which I found interesting.

Anti-Dump writes:
You follow the same procedure time and time again with ALL women.

This will almost guarantee you success finding an INTERESTED women because it is like having a love machine. Just push a button and there she is…well there is more work than that but you get the picture.

You are now on the Road to ‘The One’.

What he’s basically saying here is, if you have a structure you use when approaching women, you will get results consistent with that structure.  So in essence, you are creating a machine which will produce the same outcome time and time again.  This is interesting because it’s been something I have been experiementing with for some time.

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Anti-Dump’s Machine

While skimming through the DJ forums, I found a post that quoted someone by the name of Anti-Dump which I found interesting.

Anti-Dump writes:
You follow the same procedure time and time again with ALL women.

This will almost guarantee you success finding an INTERESTED women because it is like having a love machine. Just push a button and there she is…well there is more work than that but you get the picture.

You are now on the Road to ‘The One’.

What he’s basically saying here is, if you have a structure you use when approaching women, you will get results consistent with that structure.  So in essence, you are creating a machine which will produce the same outcome time and time again.  This is interesting because it’s been something I have been experiementing with for some time.

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The Don Juan Art of War

It looks like someone over at the DJ boards translated Sun Tsu’s Art of War to be used in Picking-Up women. It’s a pretty interesting read, especially if you’re a fan of General Tsu’s original work.

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Keeping a Girl Interested

I found this over at the Don Juan Discussion Forum and thought it hit the nail on the head.

otr4 writes:
OK, it’s no “secret,” but here it is:
Give your girl orgasms: she will love you for life and do anything for you.
I gave the girl I’m seeing now an orgasm the first time we had sex. Before we had sex she had explained it is really difficult for her to get off during sex and most guys can NEVER even come close to giving her orgasm…
I told her “I love a challenge!”
I started recently researching male mulitiple orgasms (where you can have an orgasm without ejaculating and last forever). Well, I’ve finally been able to have these types of orgasms and NOW I bust on my girlfriend for getting off WAY before me!! I call her a “two pump chump”– (Talk about stereotype/role reversal here), and she loves it! She knows everytime we have sex she is going to feel pleasure and get off and now she wants it all the time and will do just about anything I request, including letting me bring home another girl to throw in the mix!
GIVE YOUR WOMEN ORGASMS!! Sure, it might take some work and practice and self-education, but it’s the sure fire way to keep yourself in control of the relationship and keep your girl interested. She will never stray if you can keep giving her those waves of pleasure because it’s hard for a girl to find a guy who can do this, so you will be (in her eyes) a a”diamond in the rough”and will never let you go. Good luck.

Yeah, this would seem to be common sense. But lots of guys are so focused on their male lust they can often neglect women’s needs. My buddy MasterClass is a big proponant of keeping a girl hooked by blowing her mind sexually, and I’ve seen how the women he’s with respond to him. It’s really quite amazing.

You can read the whole thread here.

Blown Out by Buying Temperature

Alphaman had a post on mASF which I checked out because it had an interesting subject. Basically, Alphaman had an experience where he was blown out of a set before he even opened it.

Alphaman writes
I had a rather strange experience at a club the other night.

I walk up and approach a 3 set standing near the dance floor.

Alphaman: (makes eye contact)
HB: uh uh… go away… please leave now(waving arms back and forth)
Alphaman: whatever (walks away)

I don’t really care all that much if I get rejected, though it was awfully weird being rejected so violently without me even saying anything.

Here’s the bad part:
She kept acting like this all night everytime I walked past her(giving me massive negative social proof.) I even went to another club in hopes of salvaging the evening, but unfortunately so did she.

Any ideas on how I should have handled this?

So Neo-Rio chimes in with a very interesting analysis of why this happened to him…

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Common Guidelines for Approaching

If we had to pin down probably the HARDEST part of seducing a woman, I think a great majority of guys out there would pin it down to the Approach.

Approaching a woman cold is probably the most difficult hurdle for guys to overcome. But once you get a handle on that, everything becomes much, much easier.

Sirducer put up a post on the General forum of mASF about basic guidelines to keep in mind when approaching. I think it’s pretty good basic stuff, so I’m reposting it here for reference sake.

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The Dreaded “Boyfriend” Line

So we’ve all had the experience of meeting a girl we’ve found attractive, we’ve engaged them, found them receptive and fun, we think we’re in there, just a stone’s throw away from hot monkey lovin’, and then she drops the bomb…

“I’ve got a boyfriend.”

There are various different schools of thought on how to handle the “Boyfriend” objection. I stumbled across a post on mASF about girls bringing up this objection early on in the interaction, and I thought Neo-Rio had a very good analysis of why this happens.

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The Dreaded “Boyfriend” Line

So we’ve all had the experience of meeting a girl we’ve found attractive, we’ve engaged them, found them receptive and fun, we think we’re in there, just a stone’s throw away from hot monkey lovin’, and then she drops the bomb…

“I’ve got a boyfriend.”

There are various different schools of thought on how to handle the “Boyfriend” objection. I stumbled across a post on mASF about girls bringing up this objection early on in the interaction, and I thought Neo-Rio had a very good analysis of why this happens.

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Master AMOG List

jlaix the mellow has composed one hell of a great list of AMOGs. He’d even go as far as to call it a “Master List,” but we all know that to try and do ANYTHING comprehensive in this field is futile. But I’m certainly glad he took the time to compile this stuff for quick and easy reference.

For those of you who don’t know what an AMOG is, the term is pronounced “Ayy-Mog,” and is an acronym for “Alpha Male Other Guy.” It’s funny, because the term can be used as both a Noun and a Verb. The Noun “AMOG” is used to refer to another guy who will come in and blow you out of set by making you seem inferior to him in some respect. This is different from a “Cock Blocker” (or CB) because a Cock Blocker simply ruins your chances with the girls, whereas an AMOG will ruin your chances by STEALING the girls from you.

The Verb form of AMOG is what jlaix is referring to here. The verb “AMOG” is to use a phrase or a routine designed to lower your opponant’s percieved value in the eyes of a girl while raising your value in the process. You’ll often hear PUAs say something like “I AMOGed the dude.” In this respect, the PUA actes as the Alpha Male Other Guy and blew his opponant out of set while stealing the girls for himself.

Anyway, now that that’s out of the way, read on to see the list of phrases that jlaix has compiled to AMOG potential opponants.

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