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An incredibly talented Pick-Up Artist who goes by the name Bro Ninja PooAh wrote up a reply to a guy talking about AMOGS and getting in fights on the SDPLAY list. I thought he had some really interesting advice on how to deal with things like that. I’m reposting this here with his permission.

Bro Ninja PooAh writes:
Listen… If you’re a regular at a club and your not friends with the bouncers, that’s mistake number 1. Whether people pick on you or not, knowing the bouncers will get you past the line, enable you to get girls in who are waiting outside, and give you massive social proof. Plus, they will watch your back.

I was at a club a few weeks ago, and these GIRLS started talking shit to me. (They told me I pushed them, I said it wasn’t me, they said it was, I said, “fuck off”, they said it back, blah blah blah). I turned my back on them, and when I did the head doorman (who had seen the whole thing) came up to me and asked if I wanted them thrown out. I let them stay, but it was nice to have the choice.

Also if you’re friends with the staff you get one “free” fight at the club every few months. I was at another club a couple months ago, and some guy was talking shit to me over some girl. We all got thrown out. One the way out, the bouncers apologized to me (it was standard procedure) and invited me to their VIP Xmas Party. I ended up fighting the guy in the street, and the bouncers broke it up. They apologized to me for having to deal with that shit, and told him never to come back again.

So make some friends and improve your nightlife!

Good stuff. I think it is important to get to know the people who work at the places you frequent. It can help tremendously with your social proof, and also get you quite a few perks to boot, as BNP talked about in his post.

Gods, Demi-Gods, & Mortals

SteviePUA has an interesting post up in the Advanced forum of mASF about workshops and what people are able to get out of them. Here’s a little blurb from the post:

SteviePUA writes:
There is a related issue here for me to address and it is about the need for constant self-improvement. Now we are getting into the realm of the Demi-Gods. What Recoil and Larkin had going for them before the Bad Boy workshop was a lot of conflicting knowledge and a myriad of systems to fathom out, some of them complimentary to each other and some less so. I have met these two guys in the field and realised that they had a lot of ASF theory in their heads but they were not putting it into action. All the theory in the world is great but not useful a jot in moving you forward in the real world unless you put it into practice. They couldn’t see the forest for the trees everywhere. Following the workshop Recoil even said that some of the ASF “taken for granted” wisdom might be erroneous. I don’t want to get into things that specific in this post though. Let’s stay with the wider picture here and leave those other issues for other posts and posters to discuss. That’s something Bad Boy workshop attendees might want to debate elsewhere.

You can read it all here.

Why’s everyone picking on MINE’99?

You know, I was really excited when I saw a post in the Advanced forum from MINE’99 on body language. For once I thought he might actually be sharing/teaching something good and contributing to the community without having to put someone down or make himself look superior. And he does share some good stuff, while, of course, putting people down and making himself feel superior. Which is sad, because I know — I KNOW that MINE’99 has good stuff to teach and share, and yet he does it in such a negative way, as evidenced by the replies he gets, such as:

jlaix writes:
this makes me barf

and

Dimitri writes:
You know you just got owned by Tyler, right? You’re advertising for him, now.

Ever heard the expression “there’s no such thing as bad publicity”? Yeah, man. You just gave Tyler publicity. Congratulations. He owns you.

Sigh. I wish people would stop giving MINE’99 a hard time. Maybe then he’ll start to be a NICE person and stop sowing seeds of negativity throughout the community, be it through flames or threats of legal actions against those he doesn’t like. I think if he came from a place of genuinely wanting people to improve and letting others express their own opinions and ideals without him having to put them down, others may actually look up to him instead of saying shit like “You got p0wned!!!” and the like.

Anyway, you can read the post here. Try to get the good stuff MINE’99 has to share out of his post and look past all the snyde jabs at Swinggcat and TD.

Why’s everyone picking on MINE’99?

You know, I was really excited when I saw a post in the Advanced forum from MINE’99 on body language. For once I thought he might actually be sharing/teaching something good and contributing to the community without having to put someone down or make himself look superior. And he does share some good stuff, while, of course, putting people down and making himself feel superior. Which is sad, because I know — I KNOW that MINE’99 has good stuff to teach and share, and yet he does it in such a negative way, as evidenced by the replies he gets, such as:

jlaix writes:
this makes me barf

and

Dimitri writes:
You know you just got owned by Tyler, right? You’re advertising for him, now.

Ever heard the expression “there’s no such thing as bad publicity”? Yeah, man. You just gave Tyler publicity. Congratulations. He owns you.

Sigh. I wish people would stop giving MINE’99 a hard time. Maybe then he’ll start to be a NICE person and stop sowing seeds of negativity throughout the community, be it through flames or threats of legal actions against those he doesn’t like. I think if he came from a place of genuinely wanting people to improve and letting others express their own opinions and ideals without him having to put them down, others may actually look up to him instead of saying shit like “You got p0wned!!!” and the like.

Anyway, you can read the post here. Try to get the good stuff MINE’99 has to share out of his post and look past all the snyde jabs at Swinggcat and TD.

Twenty-Six on Phone Game

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!!! A rare and gracious post by the great and mighty twenty-six has landed on mASF! I’m speechless! I think Tenmagnet best summed things up in his reply:

Tenmagnet writes:
The two-fucking-six graces ASF with another money post. Do you fuckers understand how valuable the two-six’es time is? He can be fucking his lady friends now, but instead he helps YOU with your phone game. The two-six is gracious and kind.

My sentiments exactly. The post is filled with some genuine, funny tips about what 2-6 does with his phone game now that seem to be field tested and proven. Of course, that doesn’t stop MINE’99 from rearing his head and FLAMING him, with the help of a 14 year old, no less. Yet again, Tenmagnet sums it up best by saying:

Tenmagnet writes:
OMG – Is MINE’99 taking sarging advice from a 14 year old? This is funny.

Show Gabe the “Shining example of genetic perfection” opener. I bet he’ll shit himself.

**Post was edited by me.

Now, why such an incredible and talented guru such as MINE’99 would take the time to flame such a great guy like 2-6 along with his 14 year old nephew, I’ll never know. Couldn’t he just say “I disagree with your method. Here is what I think you’re doing wrong and why…”? But instead he has to take potshots at the guy, most likely because he’s in the dreaded “Tyler Durden” camp. Jesus. Can’t anyone be civil anymore? And he wonders why people don’t like him.

Anyway, you can read the good stuff by twenty-six here. Just ignore the cries for attention from the other posters.

THE ULTIMATE VD POST, via Gunwitch

Gunwitch reposted his all time fav. Valentine’s Day post, for all those poor lonely ASFers to study during the most unholy holliday known to man.

Gunwitch writes:
Had to repost this. Gotten laid plenty with it so take fuckin heed, forget today feb 14th, think tommorow feb 15th instead.

Sighs!

Exploitation of this holiday should be any PUAs NUMBER ONE CONCERN. Not buying gifts or not buying gifts etc.

You go down to fred myer or wal mart (department store) the next week or so, someplace where you can set up near valentines day wares, gifts, candies etc. Approach women near there so the merchandise will remind them of their lonely state. They arent in an LTR they will be in a HURRY to get in one. Regardless of a few “rules girls” etc, most women know the way to start an LTR off the right way and get a gift or a bubble bath or whatever the fuck by next week is to BANG YOUR COCK OFF ASAP.

Feb 15th, rebound day, same principle applies, only these are the ones who got ditched or ignored or were just too stuck up and dumb to take what opportunities they had, whatever, they had a BAD valentines day, this though is rebound day, as they are rethinking their stupid ASD and “white knight” fantasy you show up and talk to her.

By the way this isnt just field tested by ME, this is field tested by AFCme years back with no game and being overweight most years, still talking fucked a new chick for maybe a handful of approaches. I mean some of em of course got all babied and such or have a steady boyfriend and all, most though, even the most jaded loosen up around this time.

Oh by the way, in case you are a dumb ass, dont do cocky and funny or extreme sexual state shit on rebound day, as if she has the lowered self esteem you are looking for from a bad valentines day these things will freeze her up hardcore, as she is thinking “relationships warms and fuzzies”.

“make the ho say no”

Genius! Genius! I suggest all of you who live in the double-wides use this immediately!

Suck Them Deeply Into Your Reality

Okay, this is a great little bit of advice from LowRider69. I know that sucking people into your reality is a big part of Swinggcat Method (see Part IV of my interview with him for more on this), so I know how powerful it can be, having seen it first hand.

LowRider69 writes:
Before i’d always open with a situational or observational opener and 50% of the time it wouldn’t work. I usually couldn’t rift off the opener and they wouldn’t give me much to work with. In reality you can open with ANYTHING as long as you follow-up but here’s something I do that works really well.

I open with a story about me thats usually recent and requires feedback. Basically its stuff in MY LIFE that I want to talk about.

LR69 then goes on to give some examples, followed by this explanation.

You bring them into your reality. The main thing is practicing being totally into yourself when you open girls and don’t ellict anything from them until they open up to your approach. You’ll give off a super-chill vibe because your not expecting anything from them. You don’t give a flying fuck if their interested in your story or not, it must be told!!!

Its pretty funny. The initial response is always DUMB-SHOCK that someone is talking to them. They’ll look at you blankly or confused. Don’t let that phase you, maintain the vibe and say what you have to say. Get them involved in the story and go from there.

You can read the whole post here.

Style’s EV Routine

SirLancelot reposted this on the Tactics board of mASF. And since it’s from Style, you know it’s gotta be $$$$! =)

Style writes:
“STYLE’S EV ROUTINE:
-what is the experience you most enjoy doing? (she’ll say dancing or being with family or something)
-what is the ideal scenario of you doing that thing. descrive it..
-so picturing that RIGHT NOW, how do you feel.. what emotions?
-”so really then, while I was asking you this, you smiled.. and yeah its kind of because I’m being a bit funny or weird or whatever.. but also, its because you could kind of feel that emotion right now, while we were talking about it.. can you feel it.. blah blah”
-so really then, even though your favourite experience is dancing, your core value is fun and excitement.. So what’s most important to you is the experience of fun and excitement, and whatever leads you to that is most important.. blah blah
-OK, so in 4 minutes we’ve fulfilled your quest for core value. You can die now.

IOW,

-FAVOURITE ACTIVITY
-DESCRIPTION OF HER FAVOURITE ACTIVITY IN AN IDEAL SETTING
-WHAT EMOTION SHE GETS WHILE SHE PICTURES THIS
-SHOW HER THAT SHE EXPERIENCED THIS EMOTION WHILE PICTURING IT
-SHOW HER THAT WHAT SHE REALLY WANTS IS NOT SO MUCH THE ACTIVITY
ALTHOUGH ITS IMPORTANT), BUT THE EMOTIONAL FULFILLMENT SHE GETS FROM IT
-TELL HER SHE CAN DIE NOW”

I’m sure this is the equivalent of an “8 track tape” in Style’s arsenal, but for newbies, it’s pure gold.

Style’s EV Routine

SirLancelot reposted this on the Tactics board of mASF. And since it’s from Style, you know it’s gotta be $$$$! =)

Style writes:
“STYLE’S EV ROUTINE:
-what is the experience you most enjoy doing? (she’ll say dancing or being with family or something)
-what is the ideal scenario of you doing that thing. descrive it..
-so picturing that RIGHT NOW, how do you feel.. what emotions?
-”so really then, while I was asking you this, you smiled.. and yeah its kind of because I’m being a bit funny or weird or whatever.. but also, its because you could kind of feel that emotion right now, while we were talking about it.. can you feel it.. blah blah”
-so really then, even though your favourite experience is dancing, your core value is fun and excitement.. So what’s most important to you is the experience of fun and excitement, and whatever leads you to that is most important.. blah blah
-OK, so in 4 minutes we’ve fulfilled your quest for core value. You can die now.

IOW,

-FAVOURITE ACTIVITY
-DESCRIPTION OF HER FAVOURITE ACTIVITY IN AN IDEAL SETTING
-WHAT EMOTION SHE GETS WHILE SHE PICTURES THIS
-SHOW HER THAT SHE EXPERIENCED THIS EMOTION WHILE PICTURING IT
-SHOW HER THAT WHAT SHE REALLY WANTS IS NOT SO MUCH THE ACTIVITY
ALTHOUGH ITS IMPORTANT), BUT THE EMOTIONAL FULFILLMENT SHE GETS FROM IT
-TELL HER SHE CAN DIE NOW”

I’m sure this is the equivalent of an “8 track tape” in Style’s arsenal, but for newbies, it’s pure gold.

Communicating Disinterest

Harmless chimes in with another great post in the Tactics forum. After sucking Tyler’s dick for a bit, he goes on to say this:

Harmless writes:
Here are some things I do a lot, and remember to subcommunicate total disinterest:

Negging or even insulting HSE girls and telling them to fuck off when they get mad.

Opening sets, getting attraction, then ejecting in the middle of a story.

Pushing girls off onto AFCs. “Look, I don’t like you, but this guy looks pretty desperate. Maybe he’ll take you home.”

Telling them I don’t want their number before they offer it. “Look, I’m not going to ask you for your number, so why don’t you just go talk to that guy?”

Telling them I won’t hook up with them tonight. “I can see that look in your eyes, but it’s not going to happen. I don’t even know you. Go call one of your fuck buddies for a booty call.”

The “I’m deleting your number” stuff, which is still money.

There’s more to the post than this. You can read it all here.

Keys to Sex on the First Date

There’s a pretty decent thread on the General board started by Cassius called “One of the KEYS to sex on the first meet.” Fairly basic stuff on venue changes, but the thing that makes this post interesting is that the great and mighty Style has replied! Here’s what he had to say:

Style writes:
Gotta stand with Cassius here. Hardcore.

Here’s where it’s come in handy for me especially: A first meeting, especially if it’s from the personals. I don’t know the WHY of it, but it’s true. In the first location, I can see her body language go from closed off to interested. But then it hits a ceiling. So we take a walk to the next location (a lounge or bar), and on the walk and arrival, the rapport builds for some reason. So in the second location, a *close is now possible. If we had stayed in the first location too long, the mood would have eventually staled and we both would have become uncomfortable.

I don’t know if I’m explaining it well enough, but location changes (though not ALWAYS necessary) are GOLD for building rapport. Especially if you make them at the right time.

You can read the whole thread here.

The Psychology of Dating Porn Stars

So I’m doing my regular reading today, and there’s a blog I like to visit called “Pornblography,” which is linked on the right hand side of my site under the Blogroll section. Now, you may think this links to free porno or something, but it’s actually a blog maintained by a former porn actress turned reporter (or something). Anyway, it’s a very interesting look inside the world of porn, not just from someone who works in the industry, but a woman to boot.

Anyway, the great thing about this blog is that Carly, the woman who runs it, is also a very good writer and quite intelligent to boot. She has an entry up on there where she’s visiting the set of a porno shoot, and she talks to the director of the piece about some of the girl’s he’s dated in the industry. Below is the passage I found interesting:

Carly writes:
As I sat down on a couch that had no doubt been bathed in more DNA than Nicole Brown Simpson’s murder site, Rockstar Tony – fighting a hangover from the previous night’s excursion to Pearl – joined me for a chit chat. We discussed some Metro happenings, which are none of your business. We chatted about Kenny Guarino, Metro’s overlord, who had been sick as of late and reportedly lost 70 pounds, but is doing better (the rumor that I had heard was cancer, but even Tony didn’t know if that was true or not.) And then we got to discussing the issue that I somehow wind up discussing with everyone on a porn set: the perils of dating when you work in porn. This, of course, stems from Tony continuing to give me shit for posting that pic of him getting up close and personal with Devon Michaels, which prompted me to tease him about having a whoring status. He admitted to dating some girls in the industry, but felt that he wasn’t up to the game playing.

“I mean, I’m a decent guy and I want to treat them well, but they don’t want that,” he said. “They want a guy to treat them like shit. Take [an unnamed superstar], for example. She lives with a guy who has a list of people that she’s allowed to hang out with – almost none of them are guys – and he constantly tells her what a fuckin’ whore she is, how useless she is, etc. So here I am trying to be the nice guy, and they don’t want any of it.”

“Do you think that’s kind of their way of atonement for working in porn?” I asked.

He thought for a moment. “It could be. But then there’s the ones who are just completely mistrustful of men. I went out on a date with [unnamed contract star] and she’d been through some shit – her husband really screwed her over, she’d been stalked by some real weirdos… so I go out with her, we have a good time, and a few days later I call her to tell her so. She doesn’t call back, so I figure whatever, I’m not going to hunt her down. Two weeks later she calls and explains that she’s been busy, but then says, ‘You haven’t been calling.’ I tell her I did call and she didn’t call back, so I figured she’d call when she had time. But that’s the thing – she wanted me to stalk her, and I just didn’t want to do that.”

“Control issues,” I said. He nodded. “But that seems to be the hallmark of both genders in this industry – they’d rather be with someone that causes them drama and strife than try their hand at something normal, because the normal is scarier. They know how to deal with the drama and strife – normal is the great unknown.”

Tony nodded again. “You’re totally right.”

‘Tis a conundrum.

You can read the entry here. The interesting thing I find with this conversation is that many women who have suffered some form of sexual abuse or suffer from extremely low self-esteem/validation issues fall into this category as well, so in a lot of ways, if you look at what is said here, it can be applied to all types of women.

Basically, it comes down to the fact that a lot of women need drama, and they need someone with a strong reality to overwhelm them. That is what attracts them to someone — a strong reality. And the drama is a way to knock them out of that reality and cause them to try and get back in. It’s constant stimulus for those “stimulus junkies” as TD would put it. I’ve had to deal with some pretty crazy women in my time (just look at my posts about “Ellyn” in the archive to get an idea), and this is always the cycle that occurs when I’m with them.

The trick is recognizing the cycle and controlling it, so you give them what you want with as little physical and psychological damage as possible. Do that, and you’ll be the best guy they’ll ever have.

Turning a One Night Stand into a Fuck Buddy

Ocassionally, there is good stuff posted OUTSIDE the hallowed ground of mASF. I found this interesting little post on a blog I like to read called “Orgy,” which is linked in the Blogroll to the right of my site. Anyway, a poster by the name of SmokingGun put up an interesting little article about the etiquette of a ONS (One Night Stand), and how to transition that to a FB (Fuck Buddy).

SmokingGun writes:
If you’re prepared for the possible emotional repurcussions, though, there are ways to increase the chances of a one time coupling becoming “booty call” material. It’s not a sure thing, but it is possible… if you do it right. The first thing, and this should be etched into your mind in stone, is make her come. Repeatedly, if possible. Personally, I try to get at least one orgasm out of the way before the initial penetration, since there are girls that just don’t get off from actual fucking. If you make her pleasure your first priority, you’ll score major points. Too many guys are only worried about getting off, and that puts them in the “mistake” column.

Anyway, it goes on from there. You can read the whole thing on the Orgy blog here.

Instant Social Status

Harmless posted an EXCELLENT thread on the Advanced forum of mASF today that has already got a lot of attention on the boards. Here’s a snippit:

First, I’ll start by telling you all what you already know:

* Social proof gets you laid better than any technique
* The only way to guarantee attraction is to demonstrate HIGHEST value
* Rockstars and movie stars don’t need game to get laid
* Girls want the Alpha Male

Second, let me make some outrageous assumptions and state some points I’ll prove later:

* A PUA is like an “A-crowd Free Agent”
* “Sarging” is worthless
* You must create a “Home Base”
* AMOG Destroyers are bullshit
* DHVs work even better on guys
* Cold Approaches are unnecessary
* Most of what you’re doing right now isn’t getting you laid
* REAL PUAs get laid MOST from their social circles.
* SOCIAL STATUS is the ultimate higher value.

Do I have your attention yet?

Yeah, I’d say you do! lol.

Anyway, it seems this thread is bound to cause some waves, because it looks like Harmless is starting to share some thoughts that are uniquely his own. You can read it in all it’s glory here. And if this is any indication of what we can see from this rising star in the future, I’m really looking forward to it. You can check Harmless out at his web page Dating ReEnhanced.com.

Easy Way to Anal Sex

So, ijjjjji has a thread in the Tactics section of mASF… well, it’s not the BEST thread I’ve ever read, but hey, anything with Anal Sex in the title is okay by me. You can read it here. Don’t forget the lube. =)

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