King of All Naturals
March 29, 2004 by Thundercat
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I had an interesting experience this weekend, where I got to meet a guy who I feel deserves the title "King of All Naturals." The guy’s name is Dominic, and he has some major game. It’s not "Game" in the sense that those who study this stuff know it. Rather, it’s game in the sense that he knows how to use what he has to get women. I’ve heard stories about Dominic "King of All Naturals" from my friends before, but after getting to see him in action, I realized the stories didn’t really do him justice.
This guy is quite confident with women, and has a very interesting style which is all his own. It’s not overtly agressive in nature, in fact, there’s more than a few subtle mind-games he plays, but I don’t even think he’s aware of it. The other night when I was hanging out with him, there was a point where he was scemeing to pull this girl he was talking to into a bathroom and fucking her right there. He didn’t quite pull it off, but he ended up fucking her later in the night, and made plans to fly to Vegas with her the next day. This is a girl he LITERALLY met that night, who’s already going to travel with him to a different state. That’s pretty tight game.
Anyway, I’ll probably talk about him a bit more in the future. It would be hard to completely ignore the "King of All Naturals," after all. =)
Out-Alphaed by Betas?
March 26, 2004 by Thundercat
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Man o’ man, did I have a crappy night of sarging!
So I’m bored with the Hollywood scene and have been exploring the surrounding areas for cool (or at least different) places to pick up women, and last night I decided to go to the San Fernando Valley for a change of scenery. So I went to a club there that was pretty jumping for a Thursday night.
This place TOTALLY reminded me of clubs I used to go to in college. The girls there were, on average, 6-8s on the looks scale. For the most part, they were all packing a little "junk in the trunk" if you know what I mean. A real change of pace from the model-esque Hollywood types.
So I get a few drinks in me and start approaching set after set. I open one — BOOM! Crash and burn. No energy at all. I open another — BOOM! Same thing. After about five or six sets, I’m noticing a pattern. I can’t understand what the hell is wrong with these interactions, because I’m using pretty good field tested material that I KNOW works. But for some reason, I’m failing to hook the girls.
Upon talking with a friend of mine after the club closes, I began to realize what happened. Every single guy in that club was a Beta. They were so Beta, in fact, that the only approaching being done was by women. They’d choose which guys they liked and then they would approach the men and start flirting. I saw this happen numerous times, but it didn’t click with me until afterwards. However, when I was going into set and controlling the interaction, the girls would get uncomfortable — because I wasn’t being Beta. It’s almost as if the very ACT of approaching raised my value so high I blew myself out.
This is mind boggling to me, and I’m curious if other guys have had similar experiences. Granted, my material is not the strongest stuff in the world, but I can usually get into a set by using it. The fact that the very act of approaching would blow me out is such a foriegn concept to me — I mean, I wouldn’t even GET to most of my material because the sets would stall out so quickly.
I’ve noticed similar episodes occur whenever I’d sarge outside of LA. Places like Washington D.C., Pennsylvania, and Chicago were very much like this club I was in tonight, and it dawned on me that this is very much the way "normal" people hook up. My perspective gets so skewed going into Hollywood and hitting on a crowd that’s used to a certain atmosphere and certain stimuli, that I forget there is a whole other world out there with different perceptions on how things work.
I’m often reminded of a conversation I had with Tyler D. up in Chicago when I was bitching about the "cliquiness" of the women up there, and he simply told me "Dude, EVERYPLACE except New York and LA is like this. You Hollywood guys are fuckin’ SPOILED, yo!"
I guess tonight proved him right.
Getting Frustrated
March 25, 2004 by Thundercat
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You guys remember that commercial, the one where the mother and the daughter are walking down the beach, the surf crashing up against their bare feet, and the daughter turns to her mom and says:
"You ever have that… not-so-fresh feeling?"
Well, all vaginas aside, I’m beginning to have that feeling. I’ve been going out in the field constantly lately, and I think it’s wearing on me. My energy is way down. I’m a bit depressed because I feel like I’ve hit a plateau. I’m thinking I may be pushing things a bit too hard and trying to force things to happen when a re-direction of my energies might be more appropriate, especially now as my personal financial situation becomes more dire. Living in LA is expensive, but living AND sarging in LA has it’s costs. Those cover fees, parking fees, late night meals, and the occasional drink all start to add up. =(
If there’s one thing I’ve come to realize in my experiences, it’s that the learning curve has it’s peaks and valleys. Both are necessary. But I think the higher the peak, the lower the valley, and I’ve hit some pretty high peaks lately.
What do you guys do when you go through this? Do you just take a break from sarging entirely? I’d be hesitant to do that because sarging is very much like working out in the gym. If you stop workinging out, your muscles deteriorate, and it’s harder to start up working out again. I don’t want my skills to atrophy, but I can’t keep going at this pace for much longer or I’ll burn out. I guess I can cut back a bit, but if I do, I feel like I’ll just continue to spin my wheels.
It sucks, I know. It’ll pass, I know. Maybe I just need to move to Bolivia for a month and spend my days with $6 whores and $0.24 beers to relieve some steam.
Anti-Dump’s Machine
March 23, 2004 by Thundercat
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While skimming through the DJ forums, I found a post that quoted someone by the name of Anti-Dump which I found interesting.
Anti-Dump writes:
You follow the same procedure time and time again with ALL women.This will almost guarantee you success finding an INTERESTED women because it is like having a love machine. Just push a button and there she is…well there is more work than that but you get the picture.
You are now on the Road to ‘The One’.
What he’s basically saying here is, if you have a structure you use when approaching women, you will get results consistent with that structure. So in essence, you are creating a machine which will produce the same outcome time and time again. This is interesting because it’s been something I have been experiementing with for some time.
Anti-Dump’s Machine
March 23, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under Rants & Reviews
While skimming through the DJ forums, I found a post that quoted someone by the name of Anti-Dump which I found interesting.
Anti-Dump writes:
You follow the same procedure time and time again with ALL women.This will almost guarantee you success finding an INTERESTED women because it is like having a love machine. Just push a button and there she is…well there is more work than that but you get the picture.
You are now on the Road to ‘The One’.
What he’s basically saying here is, if you have a structure you use when approaching women, you will get results consistent with that structure. So in essence, you are creating a machine which will produce the same outcome time and time again. This is interesting because it’s been something I have been experiementing with for some time.
Sex After the 3rd Date
March 18, 2004 by Thundercat
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Sexkitten has an interesting post about when women are expected to put out.
Sexkitten writes:
Sex After The 3rd Date — Is what men expect, a man told me last night. Sure enough it was our third date, and you got it, he thought it was time to have sex. I told him it wasn’t going to happen. I had no idea that there was a rule. I’ve dated men for a month and longer and not give them any sex. If I’m not feeling a man, he’s not getting any. I don’t care if it’s our twentieth date.And evidently, women who have sex before the third date are whores. Where can I find the rule book on this stuff? I’ve never had sex with a man on the first or second date, or third date, but that’s because I didn’t feel it. I have trust issues, and fear of sleeping with someone who have a wife or girlfriend that they’re not telling me about. But what if I have sex with a man whom I connect with on a second date? Does that mean I’m a whore? What if the mood was right? I say screw the rules on both account.
Being Friends before Dating
March 16, 2004 by Thundercat
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Okay, this is the age old question every guy has struggled with since some poor schmoe invented the whole concept of "courting." And that is, do you want to befriend a girl before you start dating her?
Fezz on the Don Juan Discussion Forum writes…
No Authorities
March 5, 2004 by Thundercat
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Epitomy of Evolution wrote an interesting little rant on the General board of mASF.
epitomy_of_evolution writes:
Are no authorities in the way of seduction. TD, gunwitch, ijjjji, harmless, etc. are not the final say on getting laid. One thing if guys on here look to them for some help in the way of getting laid. Another when guys give themselves up and live the life of another poster here.Anyone who gets good does it on their own. I smell a wise ass about to give me an exception. Fuck off.
They don’t rely on anyone else. Maybe get some help, but the rest is willpower. You aren’t getting laid, it’s because you aren’t taking action and doing anything about it. DOn’t go reading up posts if you can’t just get out and try to get laid. Do it. You can’t do this, no one else will help you any.
You can’t get out there and try to get laid on your own, all the way, I say fuck you. Start doing it. You can’t do this, fuck off and die now becuase if ya can’t take charge of your life, maybe you can at least take charge of your death.
To continue with the Neo-Rio love of the day, here is his response…
Neo-Rio writes:
One of the main lessons to learn in this game is that, although many people espouse various tricks and techniques and theory… AT THE END OF THE DAY you have to have COMPLETE confidence in what you are doing.Admittedly, that’s a hard frame for the newbie to understand when he’s got all these guru’s ideas about attraction and seduction floating in his head.
I think there’s a lot of truth in this. It’s a very Zen Bhuddist outlook where guys who get good at this basically have to "kill their teacher," so to speak, and develop their own take on their style. Of course, the only real way to do this is by going out in the field and practicing on a regular basis.
Hanging out with Tyler Durden is an interesting experience because he is CONSTANTLY going out in the field and testing new material while refining old ones. It’s funny, because as much flack as he gets for being an "immitator," Tyler very much does his own thing which is different from those who taught him. I’m going through something very similar at the moment where I am slowly starting to develop my own style and take on Pick-Up. It’s a slow, painful process (in more ways than one), but one that is necessary.
And I agree with Neo-Rio where at the end of the day, it all comes down to confidence. But I’d go even further and say it’s about CONGRUENCE as well. Not only do you have to be sure in what you’re doing, but you gotta be consistent with it in all aspects of your life. I mean, you can ACT alpha in a club, but if you aren’t alpha in how you move through life, any girl you end up attracting is gonna see through your shenanigans.
You can read the whole thread here.
The 2 1/2″ Syndrome
February 19, 2004 by Thundercat
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Sexkitten put up an interesting post on male genitalia. And you know me, if it’s about male genitalia, I’m gonna post about it!!!! =)
Sexkitten writes
Every time I open my email these days, I see ads for men to have penis enlargement surgery. And yep, we women may have to take some of the blame. (Do we make our men feel inadequate? Do we really think that bigger is better? I’ll address that later in another blog)This is a sensitive issue for men, and many may be tempted, but it’s a BAD idea, folks. I KNOW! I had a boyfriend who did it. He actually had three surgeries in one year. One wasn’t enough, twice, three times, he’s still not satisfied. Will he ever be satisfied? I doubt it. The problem is not his penis size. He’s sick in the head, I believe. And should have used that money to get psychological help.
The procedure is not only expensive—it’s painful, and very risky. Yes, you run the risk of not being able to reach a full erection. And that’s not the worst part, you could become impotent!!! And eventually, you’ll be back to having the same old boy you had—and don’t get me started about the scars left on your behind where the fat was taken to be inserted into the penis.
And mentally you will be constantly worrying that something my have gone wrong—so wrong that even though you may be physically fine, you can’t stop worrying, which can affect you performing sexually.
Another interesting piece of information: the majority of men who gets this operation DO NOT need it. They are average size or bigger. I would suggest getting some professional help before taking this step.
Dick size is definitely a big issue for a lot of guys. I rang in with my thoughts in the comment section of Sexkitten’s blog if you guys care to read it. You can find the thread here.
The 2 1/2″ Syndrome
February 19, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under Rants & Reviews
Sexkitten put up an interesting post on male genitalia. And you know me, if it’s about male genitalia, I’m gonna post about it!!!! =)
Sexkitten writes
Every time I open my email these days, I see ads for men to have penis enlargement surgery. And yep, we women may have to take some of the blame. (Do we make our men feel inadequate? Do we really think that bigger is better? I’ll address that later in another blog)This is a sensitive issue for men, and many may be tempted, but it’s a BAD idea, folks. I KNOW! I had a boyfriend who did it. He actually had three surgeries in one year. One wasn’t enough, twice, three times, he’s still not satisfied. Will he ever be satisfied? I doubt it. The problem is not his penis size. He’s sick in the head, I believe. And should have used that money to get psychological help.
The procedure is not only expensive—it’s painful, and very risky. Yes, you run the risk of not being able to reach a full erection. And that’s not the worst part, you could become impotent!!! And eventually, you’ll be back to having the same old boy you had—and don’t get me started about the scars left on your behind where the fat was taken to be inserted into the penis.
And mentally you will be constantly worrying that something my have gone wrong—so wrong that even though you may be physically fine, you can’t stop worrying, which can affect you performing sexually.
Another interesting piece of information: the majority of men who gets this operation DO NOT need it. They are average size or bigger. I would suggest getting some professional help before taking this step.
Dick size is definitely a big issue for a lot of guys. I rang in with my thoughts in the comment section of Sexkitten’s blog if you guys care to read it. You can find the thread here.
Rave Review of Swinggcat’s Real World Seduction
February 12, 2004 by Thundercat
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Well, it seems a poster by the name of Mr_Cr0w has posted a RAVE review of Swinggcat’s book on the Advanced forum of mASF. Why Advanced and not General? Well, to quote Mr_Cr0w…
Mr_Cr0w writes:
I had to put it here in advanced BC it really is advanced material.
Then he goes on to review the product, and the thread is also joined in with a few other people who agree with Cr0w’s assessment of the product. I even get a little plug in the thread! Yay me!!! (Thanks for the props, CDJ!)
You can read the full review here.
Rave Review of Swinggcat’s Real World Seduction
February 12, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under Rants & Reviews
Well, it seems a poster by the name of Mr_Cr0w has posted a RAVE review of Swinggcat’s book on the Advanced forum of mASF. Why Advanced and not General? Well, to quote Mr_Cr0w…
Mr_Cr0w writes:
I had to put it here in advanced BC it really is advanced material.
Then he goes on to review the product, and the thread is also joined in with a few other people who agree with Cr0w’s assessment of the product. I even get a little plug in the thread! Yay me!!! (Thanks for the props, CDJ!)
You can read the full review here.
New Badboy Workshop Review
February 12, 2004 by Thundercat
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Yet another review of the recent Badboy workshop is up in the Field Reports section. But what makes this one interesting is you have a lot of top guys responding to it, namely: The One, Sickboy, BadBoy himself, and Tyler Durden.
If you wanna check out the thread, you can read it here.
Review of 1 on 1 Badboy Workshop
February 9, 2004 by Thundercat
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ElFucto just postd his review of his 1-on-1 Badboy workshop in Croatia. With Badboy coming to the States soon, interest is growing as to whether his workshops are as good as everyone says they are. It’s a generally positive review, and ElFucto seemed pleased. I don’t know if this link will last since he posted it on the wrong board (General instead of Field Report), but for now you can read it here.
Boobgate
February 4, 2004 by Thundercat
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**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 2/3/04

So we got to see some boobies on network television this weekend. I didn’t even notice it when it happened, because at the time I was busy eating some good old fashioned Texas BBQ at Roadking’s place, along with Swinggcat, Adam the Natural, and a few exotic dancer friends of ours. It wasn’t until Mystery came over and forced Roadking to put his TiVo to good use that we got to see the whole pathetic event play out.
Frankly, I don’t see what the big deal is. You see much worse past 10:00 pm on Cinemax. We were all sitting around the TV watching Justin Timberlake rip the boddice off as Janet’s honkin’ hunk o’ skin flap bobbled out for a good 2.3 seconds of air time. It went so fast we were all like ”Huh?” It looked to me like she was wearing a pasti, so no one really gave it a second thought.
Here’s the facts as I see them: Janet, in a bid to out Madonna-and-Britney Madonna and Britney in light of her new album coming out this March, either orchestrates or agrees to a little so-called indecent exposure. Mr. Timberlake, eager to shed his own squeaky clean image, and one up his ex, is either put up for or volunteers to be the bodice ripper. And CBS, worried about a lack-luster superbowl with 2 teams no one really cares about, agrees in order to stir up interest. So off they go on their merry little way, do their performance, and – dear God! – dare to show tit, which most kids become intimately familiar with as babies, and nipple, which dominates daytime television with the vast amount of shirtless bohunks that rule the soaps.
Now I hear that the FCC is doing an investigation into the incident, that CBS ”didn’t know” (they obviously did), and that parent’s across the country are outraged that their little kids were exposed to prime-time boobage.
It’s no wonder Europeans laugh at us when it comes to sex.
And it’s no wonder why the seduction community is such a necessary entity in this world. I really fucking hate the fact that there are probably untold numbers of little boys out there who saw this on TV, and their parents are making them feel guilty for seeing it, saying things like ”You shouldn’t have seen that,” or ”It’s a bad, dirty, naughty thing you saw!” Even worse, I feel for the untold number of little girls who are made to feel bad about having boobs. Who know’s how many parents called Janet Jackson a slut or accused her of causing society’s downfall. It’s no wonder we, as Americans, are so fucked up about sexuality with shit like this going down.
If anything, there should be more boobs on TV. Sex shouldn’t be a bad thing to expose kids to. It’s probably one of the greatest things someone can experience in this world, so why are we made to feel bad about it? Why is it such an outrage? This whole culture is fucked up bass-ackwards when it comes to sex, IMO.
If you ask me, the real outrage was P. Ditty’s butchering of the Toni Basil classic ”Hey Mickey.” Am I the only one who cares about the sanctity of 80′s pop music?
Thundercat
PS: I was able to catch both the Surreal Life and Survivor after the Superbowl. Both shows have a lot to teach about persuasion, influence, and how to deal with women. Next time they’re on, pay attention to how Richard Hatch handles himself in Survivor, and how Ron Jeremy deals with women in the Surreal Life. Both are great. =)




