mASF on the Upswing?
February 4, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under Drama & Rumors
**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 1/30/04
Back when I got into the community hardcore about 6 months ago, I can remember going onto mASF and reading through a derth of posts, not really getting much from any of it. It wasn’t until I got on Mystery’s Lounge that I found some amazing posts that detailed some of the most cutting edge tactics I’ve seen to date. However lately, I’ve been getting more out of mASF than I have anywhere else on the web. It seems that there are a great many good posters on the board now, and the information is getting to be pretty solid and even, dare I say it, interesting.
All this stuff comes in cycles. I’m sure in a few months it’s going to suck again. But there do seem to be a great many intelligent posters around at the moment who are actually sharing some new and exciting ideas. I plan to enjoy it while it lasts. =)
Thundercat
Power, Directness, Manipulation, & Seduction
February 4, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under Tips & Tricks
**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 1/30/04
Neo-Rio has a great thread going on mASF about the real origins of seduction and how men should act to counter it when it comes to women. It’s a long thread and I haven’t read through the whole thing yet, but so far I like what I’ve seen. You can read it all here.
Thundercat
Vince Runza goes Old School
February 4, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under Rants & Reviews
**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 1/30/04
Vince Runza put up a pretty good post on mASF about the advantages of using NLP in sarges. Most people in the community tend to look down on NLP and pattern languages because it’s either seen as being hokey, too hard to learn, or plain ineffective. But for as much criticism that I have about Speed Seduction, I do believe that there is merit to NLP. Why do I say this? Because I’ve used it before, and it does have an effect on people if done right. The problem is learning to do it right. I think Ross Jeffries, for as much innovation as he’s put into SS, in the long run brings a lot of the misconceptions about NLP upon his system through his rather insecure attitude and horrible teaching methods. The biggest laugh I’ve gotten lately has been from RJ ragging on TD for Tyler’s teaching style being unclear. This coming from one of the worst teachers in the community. RJ has said himself that he teaches based on what’s best for him, not his students, and then he indites TD for basically doing the same thing. Thus is the crux of the issue when it comes to people’s rather low opinion of SS.
But regardless, if one is able to look past the juvenile jerrymandering of its creator, Speed Seduction does have a great deal of merit, and I think Vince explains it ever more eloquently than I could. You can read his thread here.
Thundercat
The First Dating ReEnhanced Workshop
February 4, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under News
**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 1/30/04
I had a talk with Harmless last night, who’s currently crashing at Formhandle’s place up in Boston where the first ever Dating ReEnhanced Workshop is being held. Harmless sounded excited and in good spirits. Apparently, Formhandle has a REALLY nice place up in New England, so even the snow couldn’t damper Harmless’s excitement. He told me that the first night of the workshop (which was on Thursday) went off very well, the only sticking point being that the venue they chose to hold the workshop in was a little too lound. I was told the students who attended still approached and seemed to have gotten a lot out of it. I look forward to getting a few field reports from the workshop that I can post here on the blog.
Harmless also told me of a bookstore sarge he did before the workshop started, and also let it slip that Formhandle not only has a stripper FB, but was angling to get a possible 3-some going with one of her friends. You go, Formie! Wa-wa-wa…
Thundercat
Returning to Online Dating
February 4, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under Rants & Reviews
**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 1/29/04
Because I spend so much time out of my week either at the office or at home, I’ve decided to start up online dating again. I really do not like online dating, simply because it takes so much time and effort, as opposed to club/bar/street game which is relatively fast and painless. However, I may as well put the time I have doing nothing to good use and try and get me some pussy.
The internet landscape is always changing, and it’s been a while since I’ve done the e-mail seduction thang. If any of you guys out there got any tips or tricks, or know of any cool sites that are wirth a visit, let me know.
Thundercat
Good God! Hit Meh!
February 4, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under Quotes & Humor
**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 1/29/04

This is what I look like after a night of hanging out with Roadking.
Ah, the sweet, sweet agony!
Thundercat
Car Stuck Girls
February 4, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under Quotes & Humor
**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 1/29/04
Okay, now I remember why I love the internet. There’s literally something for everybody. Today I discovered a fetish site for people who like to see hot chicks get their cars stuck in the mud. Literally. There’s no nudity, no sex, just girls who’s cars are stuck and they walk around looking all confused and helpless. How hot is THAT!!!!!?????
Anyway, you pervs can check it out here.
Looks like Gunwitch has a new venue to work his magic. And this is even better, because now the girl has no means to get away from him. =)
Thundercat
Another Sign of the Appocalypse
February 4, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under Quotes & Humor
**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 1/28/04
Dear lord, why must us men be made to suffer so? I swear to christ chicks have it easy.
In the meantime, I’ll be in the corner sobbing quietly. =)
Thundercat
Girlfriend Stealer
February 4, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under Tips & Tricks
**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 1/28/04
Thanks to ijjji for pointing this out.
Thundercat
The Audience of mASF
February 4, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under Quotes & Humor
**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 1/28/04
Either this guy needs to find mASF, or he’s one of its regulars. You decide. =)
Thundercat
Making MLTR Work
February 4, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under Tips & Tricks
**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 1/28/04
Sir Italian has a rather nice article on making Multiple Long Term Relationships work. I’m still waiting to get to the point where I can pull something like this off and join the ranks of the MLTR masters such as Zan, Style, and Masterclass, so I found this to be a good read. Sir Italian makes it sound easy. Ah, to be European… oh well.
You can read the blog entry here.
Thundercat
PLAY List meeting 2/1/04
February 4, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under News
**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 1/28/04
There will be a meeting of the LA Lair (Players Los Angeles Yahoo) this coming Sunday at the Project Hollywood mansion. Originally, Sickboy — of of TD’s regular wingmen — was supposed to be the guest speaker, but it looks like he is unable to make it. Instead, Sandman from Mystery’s Lounge will be gracing the west coast with an appearance. Here’s the official word from Papa:
Due to a scheduling issue, Sickboy is unable to attend the Sunday meeting; therefore, the LA List has brought down a special guest that has flown in from London to do a presentation on the art of opening. Our special guest is Igor Ledochowski (aka Sandman of Mystery’s Lounge), who has taught workshops on opening and pickup in Europe. He has attended workshops by Mystery, Badboy, Juggler, Tyler, and I in Europe, and assists with students at Real Social Dynamics programs. He will be teaching Badboy, Tyler, and I at as our NLP Certification Coach for our official NLP Practitioner’s licensing in London at his August course in London.
We will be meeting at the Project Hollywood Mansion this Sunday afternoon at 3:30pm. Attendance is free. Parking is available at Sunset Plaza. Ring the buzzer at the gate and you will be let in. If you have trouble finding us, contact me.
Cheers,
Papa (Nick)
Real Social Dynamics
Should be a good time. Nothing like hanging out at the mansion learning the lifestyle from some of the best. Plus, it’s free! You can’t beat that. =)
Thundercat
New Badboy Workshops
February 4, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under News
**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 1/27/04
Looks like Badboy just announced his workshop dates for San Diego. You can check them out on his website here.
Thundercat
Ross Responds to the Strauss/Brasco Article
February 4, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under Drama & Rumors
**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 1/27/04
It seems Ross Jeffries has taken time from his busy schedule to respond to Minger’s article comparing Neil Strauss to Donnie Brasco. Ross jumps to Strauss’s defense, but not before claiming the book that Strauss is writing was his idea (of course. He’s been teaching writing books since his LA ’99 videos!).
You can find his reply here.
Thundercat
$$$Finally, Forbidden Video footage of top PUAs caught on tape!$$$
February 4, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under Quotes & Humor
**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 1/27/04
There’s been a lot of controversy about the mainstream exposure that the community has been recieving lately. Well, to make matters worse, video footage of major Pick-Up Artists has been leaked out and is now all over the internet. I don’t really know how I feel about this, but I think it’s a good thing that most people out there will finally know that we are the real deal. Anyway, if you want to check them out, click on the links below.
Video 1
Video 2
Video 3
Video 4
Video 5
Don’t know how I feel about being exposed in the footage, but I guess like Mystery, I’ll have to deal with the recognition. =)
Thundercat




