Book Review: The Game, by Neil Strauss
September 7, 2005 by Thundercat
Filed under Rants & Reviews
Okay, by now I’m sure you’re all curious about the book THE GAME, written by Neil Strauss (aka Style, the most powerful of the Jedi).
I received my advanced copy of the book over Labor Day weekend (since I’m in the book briefly, I was sent one early). The first thing you notice about the book is that it’s not your typical hardback book as you’d expect. The cover is actually thin, flexible, and black, the pages are all edged in gold, and there’s even a thin red cloth bookmark located in the spine. In short, the book looks like the typical Gideon Bible you’d find in a hotel room.
And I must say, it’s quite appropriate.
Move over Lay Guide, so long eBooks, THE GAME is the new bible of the seduction community!
A few chapters into this book, I realized that this wasn’t going to be the “tell-all expose” we all were anticipating. This is a book written by arguably one of the best seducers to ever come out of the community, and in it, he shares everything.
I mean EVERYTHING.
All his teachings, all his tactics, all his theories, all his strategies are all laid bare.
Through the course of the book, we start off by seeing Style go from your Average Frustrated Chump to a full blown Ladies Man, and as he documents his progress, it’s as if you’re right there learning along with him. Because of this, I would go so far as to say that is book is a MUST OWN for anyone out there looking to improve with women.
This isn’t just a story. This is a “how-to guide.” A manual on how to pick up women from the best of the best. Forget Cassanova, forget Don Juan, this is stuff that works now, in this day and age, and is applicable to modern women. Not only that, but it’s all based on the tried and tested techniques of the seduction community.
Style pretty much lays out every form and method of teaching there is. He gives you the full Mystery Method, he shows you Speed Seduction, he explains the Juggler Method, Double Your Dating, and David X style. Pretty much every major school of thought is laid bare in here, which makes it a great all-encompassing reference manual for guys who want to know what teachings are available out there.
In the book, Style also shares posts from the private Mystery’s Lounge message board where some of the greats post their best stuff. This is a good way for the average guy who isn’t privileged enough to be part of this private message board to see some of the advanced teachings and spastic ramblings that are shared there.
Then, Style shows you how he incorporates the best teachings from all his sources and created a system of pick-up that works for him.
This is, bar-none, one of the most complete guides on the subject of seduction I have ever seen. In fact, I’d rate it up there along side Robert Greene’s classic “The Art Of Seduction.”
But the real treat of THE GAME isn’t just it’s wealth of pick-up knowledge. No sir. It’s the inside look you get at the personalities behind these teachings.
The book seems to have two different parts to it. The first part, and most of the early chapters, are devoted to the teachings of pick-up and Style’s own personal learning experiences. The other part of the book is devoted to the experiment known in the community as “Project Hollywood,” where the real human drama of the story unfolds.
The first chapter of the book starts off with a bang as we see Mystery, a man revered by all as one of the greatest teachers of Pick-Up out there, have a nervous breakdown after his girlfriend is stolen by his then close friend, business associate, and roommate, Herbal. Style goes into great detail about how he performs “suicide watch” duties as he drags Mystery to a mental health center.
This is how the book starts. Mystery is a loon.
But no more than two chapters later, we see the flip side of this as Style documents his first meeting of Mystery as the man is at his prime, picking up some of the hottest women in the club (including stealing the girlfriend of a TV celebrity who happened to be there right in front of him) and proving to all that he is, in fact the real deal.
So within the first three chapters of the book, we see Mystery at his worst, and Mystery at his best. They’re two sides of the same coin, but the ones that only his enemies and his fans know.
His students see all his greatness and none of his weakness. His detractors see only his weakness and shun his greatness. In the matter of just a few pages, Style shows us how everyone sees Mystery at a glance.
Then, as the book goes on, the gap between these two extremes is filled and we suddenly see Mystery as his friends see him – a real human being. Black and white suddenly blur into shades of gray, and a true and sympathetic man emerges.
This is where I think it’s important to point out that the concepts and teachings Mystery has innovated are real. They work, no one can deny this. And as you read about Mystery’s low points (and believe me, things get pretty low), it can be easy to doubt the validity of what he teaches.
But as the book goes on and you begin to see the picture Style paints of a truly passionate man who comes from a poor home with an abusive father, you realize that it’s these extremes he endures that make him so brilliant. Sure, he has a massive breakdown and has to be institutionalized for his own safety, but he’s also someone who latches onto crazy ideas and molds them into reality. It’s because of these extremes that Mystery is so charismatic, innovative, and gains the loyalty of those who follow his teachings.
Then there’s Ross Jeffries, the “guru of gash” as he likes to refer to himself in the book. RJ is one of the other major personalities in the story, and I must say, reading what Style has to say about his is extremely eye opening.
If you’re a reader of this blog, you know that there is no love lost between Ross Jeffries and myself. As a former student of his, he kicked and banned me from Speed Seduction when I began to question the validity of his teachings. Since then, I have written a great deal about how unstable, petty, and vindictive a man he is in an attempt to warn others about following what he has to teach.
And though Style shows both sides of Mystery, the good and the bad, the book struggles to show anything good or redeeming about Ross. Upon first meeting Style, Ross treats him like a dick. He pathetically tries to “convert” Style to his cult of Speed Seduction (and I’m not putting my words in here, Style really does refer to it as a cult in the book). We also see RJ try to anchor Style into believing he’s a great seducer, all the while extorting and guilting Style into taking him to trendy Hollywood parties he could never get into by himself.
After a rather embarrassing foray out with Ross, where the man ended up making an ass of himself when he got on all fours and sniffed Carmen Electra’s butt, eventually forcing Style to leave the party early because Ross can’t stay out past 10 o’clock at night (it’s past his beddie-bye), Style vows never to take Ross out to another “cool” party again.
This, of course, does not stop Ross from continuing to harass and guilt Style as he does to so many other people.
The picture Style paints of RJ is not necessarily a bad one. He does document how Ross uses Speed Seduction to get numbers from girls, and he never fully comes out and disrespects Ross. But as you read how RJ acts and what he says to Style, you can’t help but get a glimpse of this guy’s true nature.
And then, of course, there’s the other big personality featured in the book, namely Tyler Durden of Real Social Dynamics fame. And needless to say, Style does not paint a flattering picture of Tyler at all.
It is obvious there was never any real “love connection” between Tyler and Style, but Style makes it a point to document all the creepiness and awkwardness he felt around Tyler as he shows RSD blossom from a copy-cat pick-up workshop into a type of cult very similar to the one found in Fight Club (coincidence? Not likely).
In one particularly telling scene, Style describes the first time he hung out with Tyler while juxtaposing a burlesque dancer Style dated who revealed to him she had herpes. It’s almost as if Style is suggesting that even though on the surface, things can appear beautiful and exotic, on the inside there can be a virus that will end up causing you harm. This bit of symbolism wasn’t lost on me in regards to how it applies to Tyler Durden.
There’s one particular scene towards the end of the book that I can only describe as shocking, in terms of how Tyler really treats other people. I think that once people read this book, they will have a very different outlook on the RSD crew.
There are other community celebrities in the book too, including the usual cast of characters such as David DeAngelo, Juggler, Rick H., Steve Piccus, and various others. Many names were changed, either to protect the innocent or because a character became an amalgamation of more than one person. Some of the fun parts for me was trying to guess who a character really was. (Since I know most of these guys, it wasn’t hard for me)
Because of this, I think it’s important to note that THE GAME isn’t a straight non-fiction book. Not only because certain characters have been changed and combined together, but Style also altered the timeline of certain events to make the book read better.
For instance, my original Top Ten PUA List did not come out while Mystery was in the hospital, it actually came out some time after he was released. Ross didn’t get a certain “nick-name” until I started using it on this site some time after the party which Style took him to in the book. Style’s interview with Tom Cruise actually occurred well into Project Hollywood, not beforehand. These are a few things that aren’t necessarily accurate in terms of the timeline of events, but rest assured that everything in the book did happen in one way or another. I say this not only as a witness to a great many of the events documented, but also from first hand sources who’ve repeated to me pretty much what Style reveals in the novel.
Another great joy in reading this book is hearing about Style’s fumbles with women before he really graduated to PUG (Pick Up Guru) status. These are often very funny, such as seducing one girl back to her hotel room only to be put off by her stinky feet, or trying to get two twin sisters into bed at once by taking a rather awkward bath at their place. These moments aren’t just entertaining, but anyone who’s actually gone out in the field, used these tactics, and tried to get them to work can relate to the crazy things that can happen and go wrong when you’re in the final stretch.
I also think this is great because we get to see that Style was not always the expert seducer he has become. He started out just like a lot of us did, and fumbled and failed before he actually started to taste success. It’s important to note that a lot of guys aren’t willing to go through the “failure” part that’s required to get good. But part of what made Style one of the best was his unwillingness to give up.
Another incredibly entertaining aspect of the book comes when Style actually BECOMES good, and is forced to deal with certain obstacles. For instance, there’s a chapter in the book where Style goes head-to-head in a “PUA Showdown” with Hollywood Madame Heidi Fleiss. It’s incredibly entertaining to see Heidi try and cockblock Neil when he’s picking up women, and in return see Neil fight back with PUA tactics that keep Hedi from turning seducing the girls into prostitution.
Then there’s another celebrity showdown with actor Andy Dick, where Style has to keep Andy from stealing his date by whipping out some massive value demonstrations to re-win the attention of his star-struck girl. Of course, this works a little TOO well when Andy Dick, so won over by Style’s tight game, actually propositions him for a little homosex action. (note: Style politely declined)
In fact, there are an awful lot of celebrity cameos in the book. In addition to Heidi Fleiss and Andy Dick, we’re also treated to people such as the likes of Paris Hilton (who Papa sarges and gets a number close with), Brittany Spears (who Style actually number closes after running some game on her), and of course, Courtney Love (who is actually a resident of Project Hollywood for a time).
But probably the most fascinating cameo of all is that of A-List Super-Duper-Movie-Star Tom Cruise, who in a strange way becomes Style’s new guru after he’s reached the pinnacle of PUA-dom and offers him sage advice that ends up saving Style’s soul at the end of the book.
Which brings me to the next part of the review, which is that Style goes into great detail about the dangers and pitfalls the pick-up lifestyle presents those who get involved in it. He shows how addicting it can be, and how some guys can get lost in it, forsaking friends, family, jobs, fortunes, education, and sometimes even personal health in an obsession to become a “master seducer.”
Not only that, but he talks about how easy it is to have your views on women shift to the point where you actually start resenting them. At some point, Style reveals, pick-up becomes about the process instead of the end result. The girl becomes secondary to the technology, and the mindset of manipulation is truly the path to the dark side.
Now, despite all of what I’ve written above, what I am about to reveal next is probably the single, most important lesson Style could ever teach any student or any man who wants to experience true happiness with women. It’s pretty much the moral of the book, the heart of the story, and the greatest thing anyone could possibly learn in dealing with women.
This is Style’s greatest discovery, and the reason why he deserves the title “The most powerful of the Jedi.”
And the funny thing is, it’s not an opener, or a routine, or a neg, or a pattern, or a value demonstration, or a value elicitation, or a cold reading, kiss close, phase shift, and any other piece of jargon you can think of.
It’s a simple truth that most men will discover when they reach a certain point.
We all got into the learning of seduction and pick-up for one reason. Maybe initially it was to “get more sex,” but after adding a few notches to your belt, that falls by the wayside. What we really get into this field of study for is to procure female companionship. Be it a girlfriend or a wife, we all ultimately want a woman who we can be happy with.
You can learn everything there is to know about pick-up and seduction, but at some point when you’re with a woman, you’re going to run out of material and have to start being yourself.
This is where the PUA mentality has its greatest shortcoming.
In the book, when Style finally meets his ideal woman, he suddenly finds himself in uncharted territory. When all his tricks and strategies fail, he’s forced lay everything on the line and just start being himself. The message is clear: Pick up is easy, Relationships are hard.
In the case of Mystery, we see a man who can generate incredible attraction in women almost instantly, but can’t hold onto a girl to save his life. With Ross, we see a guy who can maybe get a phone number, but never a date. With Tyler, we have a person who enjoys the process of seduction so much, that when it comes time to close the deal, he chickens out.
At some point, if you want to really get to the end game, you have to stop being a Pick-Up Artist and become a Man. Here is where Style’s greatest teaching lies…
“To win the game, you have to leave it.”
Simple, yet profound.
If any of us ever get to a point where we’ve done our work, we’ve picked up tons of women and finally found one we liked, we have to stop with all the attraction theory and go for the relationship we ultimately crave. This means making a commitment, not only to the woman you love, but to yourself — that you’ve achieved your goal and you are allowed to be happy.
Being with a beautiful woman does not solve any problems. Too often, guys think that having a hot chick in their bed will make them happy. But as Style proves in his book, it doesn’t. What makes a man happy is achieving his goal and accepting his success, and knowing when it’s time to move on and mature.
This is Style’s greatest gift to the community. This idea. This concept. And for that, we should all be forever thankful.
The Game should be a must-have book for every man out there. I can’t recommend it strongly enough. You should get a copy and read it three times, cover to cover. You will not find better teachings anywhere than what’s in this book.
I guarantee it.
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Did you get the same book? The book I read was an expose of how freaky and weird a lot of “the community” is. Calling this book a “how-to guide” is a real disservice.
Alternatively you can start being yourself today.
Thundy, you should add a WARNING before people start reading this review. You give SOOO MUCH AWAY that it blows it for the rest of us that have not read it. I stopped once you got to Mystery…since you where starting to go Chapter by Chapter…..
I don’t really think I gave much away. I guess there are some spoilers in there, but I tried to keep everything pretty general. And I didn’t go chapter by chapter.
Thundercat
Ray… the code for quoting is
< blockquote> what you’re quoting < /blockquote>
Just remove the space before the word “blockquote”
Cheers
Great book by Style.
Tyler Durden turns out to be a scumbag who will do anything to gain power. He’s the epitome of a low self esteem person.
Tyler,
I listened to your interview with David Deangelo. How can you be good with girls with a voice like that ? it’s irritating. I can’t see how your game can make teenage girls more than giggle.
With friends like Tyler, who needs enemies?
Tyler Durden,
How do I sign up for an RSD workshop?
I want to learn “How to Lose Friends and
Backstab People.”
Rob
That’s not a miracle, at least not for me.
I never thought I’d say this, but I looks like everything Ross Jeffries said about Tyler Durden is true. Are you happy now Tyler?
I just noticed that Tyler Durden has red eyes in the photograph above. He is the devil incarnate!
Anybody, except the RSD Kool-Aid drinkers, knew that Owen (and, please, let’s not call him TD…the movie character was cool…Owen is not) is weird.
I don’t think he’s the only community guru who is a headcase.
What did Ross say about Tyler Durden?
From the book Tyler Durden came across as:
a guy that farts alot
a guy with a roll around his belly
a guy that is super pale
a guy that is a liar– (biggest drugdealer in Kingston, weightlifter, philosphy writer to academic papers at 15, ect)
a guy that hadn’t gotten laid in 2 months while living at Project Hollywood
a guy that was unable to converse about anything other than the game
a guy that was kicked out of people’s houses for not being cool
a guy tried to tool his wingmen (Mystery and Style)
a guy that stole Mystery’s business, his house, and even his Lounge from right under him
a guy that plotted in Papa’s bedroom for month’s on end on how to remove Mystery
a guy that tried to ‘freeze out’ style and turn everybody in project Hollywood against style and Mystery
a guy who was rapidly driving away his friends, and who Sickboy was embarrassed to introduce to his friends.
a guy that was kicked out of his own house for running a commericial business in a residential area
a guy that was uninterested in sex– only interested in power
a guy that has his guys in workshops getted artificially psyched up (via high fives, ect.) in order to create better product testimonials
a guy that ran his seduction business along with partner (papa) who hadn’t been laid in a year.
Tyler Durden came off extremely bad in this book. In fact, I would never be interested in taking a workshop with him after this book.
Papa also came out like an unoriginal scumbag.
If Tyler did that sh*t to my friends, he’d be a castrato right now.
‘Ol Tyler got fuckin’ shit on in dis book.
I mean, dis nigga came out lookin like a clown, dog. DAYUM!
Ayo, Tyluh’!!….Yo, Tyluh’!…you been straight made into a BITCH by Style, yo. Fo real. He done mopped da floor wif your ayuss.
“Heat Miser”…HAHA. He done told da world you aint nuttin but a fatassed BITCH, yo.
HAHA
This is Chuckles The Assclown. Thundercat has my permission to verify this publicly.
YO RAY GORDON!
You really do seem totally and utterly obsessed with Neil’s book. Post after post after post about it. Have you actually got a copy and read it yet?
Or has the allowance your Mommy gives you run out for this week?
Inquiring minds wish to know.
I am new here, I read about this book two months ago in Esquire – a mag I happened to pick up by chance. I don’t read it regularly. Anyway I preorded the book, but for two weeks I have been reading these message boards, blogs and what not.
I don’t have problem getting women and I not terrible looking, in fact I think many women find me attractive – yet I became interested in this stuff because I wanted to improve my game. An attractive women can get laid anytime, anywhere and as an alpha guy that doesn’t seem fair to me. Basically I wanted to level the playing field and have fun. Improve my 30% hit rate to 80% or what not. I also wanted to have fun.
First after two weeks of just reading random FREE message board stuff – the first time out of the gate I was able to number close a hot hooters bartender. Now I am not really a cheap girl type of guy, but I did this at 4pm on a thursday using all of your techniques – not that they are so far off from what I usually did – it just that I made a real effort to use them (meaning you don’t need these techniques to know you need to be confident and talk about feelings….). At one point I even told her I dont buy women drinks because it is demeaning and I don’t want her to think she owes me anything……that I only talk to women I have a close personal connection with…blah blah blah.
I told the bartender this, after she came up to me and told me some other guy wanted her number and she didn’t give it to him and he thus stiffed her on the tip. She tells me that story, and 10 minutes later I have her number and plans for the next day.
Here is where I need some advice. The next day I wasn’t in town, I had to come back to NYC where I live. I totally blew off this girl and her friends (I had a wingman that was supposed to meet up with the friends). Anyway me and my wing were happy with our little conquest and we were gonna drop it. We live in a very big pond with a ton of HBs – our hooters girl was practice and it worked great. We were happy with that, until my buddy tells me he wants to call the girl. Well he calls and she screams to her monther that its one of the guys that blew me off the other day! This girl is 22 – we are 30+. My buddy tries to feel her out and basically appologize – he is not as into the game – he thinks he can be a nice guy – but whatever. Anyway she proceeds to tell him she is pissed I didnt show up and that she was really into me. He flirts with her and tries to make nice, she even tells him to come hang out and she will get her friends to hang out. But she tells him she is pissed at me, beecause she worked really hard to get my number – actually I wouldn’t give it (learned that from you guys). Maybe she was playing me….lol.
Anyway no this is bothering me – I think I can close her if I call and get to see her but I am not sure how to pitch the call. We 100% blew her off – actually we were never available for the time we made the plans but she doesn’t know that, she thinks I just blew her off. Any advice would be great.
Ok back to the book – I really hope that is doesn’t sell well and that people don’t read it. I am 100% convinced, after 2 short weeks, that in the hands of confident and average looking guys this stuff is like magic. If you are above ave in looks or anything – these techniques will work even better. Do you guys really think this book will change the game?
Finally I am a busy guy, so I am not that available…..need a solid plan for meeting the hooters girl on my terms.
Thanks and sorry for the long post.
Tyler/Owen,
When will you be conducting the next RSD Workshop? I want to show up so you can try
your AMOG tactics on me.
Brutus
Forgot one KEY point. I said I got a number close and a date the NEXT day. Well she told me buddy we could have gone back to her place if I had asked – yes i slammed my head on my desk when he told me that. I orginally told her to come out with us, after picking up her dog (she needed to or some crap). She countered with why don’t we go out tomorrow and I will bring my friends. Being the first time out I thought that was a win……turns out I fumbled.
I think it’s pretty obvious this was written for money and written with the idea of a possible movie venture. Particularly with the numerous name dropping how can the media really ignore it?
No real thought was put in to it’s possible negative impact however even if the impact is “small”.
Sure Strauss might want to help out guys, and that’s great. He may even want to help out women, that’s great too.
Does he really think this book will help them though?
Sure it might help those who found their way to the community because they were looking for it! but now he’s bringing the community to those who WEREN’T looking for it.
How does that help anyone?
How about those inevitable idiots, rapists, paedophiles, and who knows who the fuck else… who will see this shit and start getting ideas? Sure you could say the same of any ‘book’ but what about a movie? hmm..
Never thought of that did ya Strauss? too busy thinking about your monetary gain I bet.
Now sure, a lot of guys will try and fail, some may eventually better themselves and move beyond the ‘tricks’, then there will be the group that use it to success but take advantage of women because other parts like their ethics and morals aren’t there, especially those kinds of people mentioned earlier.
I think this is why most of the “gurus” choose to market their material solely online, if someone seek’s it they will find it. It’s not hard for Mystery or Deangelo with their large bank accounts to put an advertisement on TV, yet they choose not to for a reason.
So those guys who actively seek out the BOOK will possibly find value and in the end treat women well while treating themselves well. The women who read it will break off into groups, those hating it, those loving it, those wanting to use it, those wanting it used on them, and those who get great personal value out of it (hey it’s possible).
Then the group of those men and women who notice it “Accidentally” like those that click on Amazon.com’s bestseller list where Neil’s book is! I even heard there MAY be an Oprah show on the book? and then the movie?
Then what happens?
Do women who start pointing out these techniques most of which are taken from observation of ‘natural’ methods, i.e. the things we naturally do to attract others. ?
What then? do they question whether or not to trust this or that guy because he’s doing something he’s naturally done all his life but is in some popular book, show, or movie?
Of course the techniques will work, but then there’s always skepticism in people, that desire to ask questions even if we can’t get the answers. What if he’s using a technique? what then are the implications?
Also not all people come to the community for more sex, though I guess going into all possibilities would make the book drag on.
I’m hungry… see ya.
Birdbrain – I agree most guys won’t have the balls to try this stuff. But if it really catches on an get press – women could notice and that is scary.
As for knowing what women want, I disagree with you a bit. I am a successful guy, good with women – meaning I can get laid, I can get numbers, I can have relationships – my problem is I have too many relationships and not enough fun and lets leave it at that. I think nice guys go wrong in that they are nice and they think women should now they are nice and like them for it. But because of nature, most women don’t give nice guys a chance – many of you said here – what is she supposed to do fuck all the 1,000s of nice guys? See the good men I know – they do understand women at some level – they just don’t know how to make them wet. And from experience that takes forming some attraction or a bound, whether through natural looks of sarging. It is just that many people can learn seduction, whereas few can really change their looks.
Any advice on how to ‘fix’ my hooters problem.
Hi, it’s me…Tyler. I’ve decided to give up the game and come out of the closet. Sorry for being an asexual creep. I knew this thing was coming apart when one of my students caught me sarging a little hairless asian boy. Anyway… goodbye.
P.S. If you look like Ricky Martin jump into the shower now!!!!
Guys – come on enough crap and book reports/reviews. Any advice on my real life current situation? What happened to helping the new guy?
Jlaix is a one trick pony.
1. Get drunk/stoned
2. Don some chodelicious attire
3. Wandle to the El Rio
3. Uses the same cornball lines on unsuspecting barflys
4. Pulls toothless dregs to his flop house
“Guys – come on enough crap and book reports/reviews. Any advice on my real life current situation? What happened to helping the new guy?”
Hey, guido boy, first of all – stop whining.
Here’s our advice:
FUCK HER
Sure that’ll be no problem for you since you are already such a stud. LOL!
Birdbrain – my question is how to appologize about not calling and blowing off seeing her the next day. She is pissed about that, or at least was yesterday, when she told my wing directly. She said I was a jerk for not calling – so I have some repair work to do. I was asking how to best do that over the phone without whinning and sounding like an AFC.
As for old_guy whatever, I see some her are childish pricks.
Bird – Thanks. I had a feeling you would say that. I will give it a try. Yesterday I was willing to leave this for dead – then my crazy wing calls her. Then i get this insane feedback from him – mind as well keep the ball rolling. It will be tough when the first thing she says is hey jerk you stood me up – tough to ignore that. But yell who cares.
Ok, when you call her, DON’T apologize and DON’T bring up the fact that you blew her off or didn’t call her, if so its game over. Wait for her to bring it up. When she does shes gonna shittest you really bad, stick with stock cocky and funny, remain charming and and keep your composure. You could reframe the ‘blow off’ as you testing her to see if she would flip out and get all crazy, then tell her she failed the test and that now she deserves a spanking. It will only be as big a deal as you make it. Shes obviously already attracted, so just worry about getting her laughing and in good state and you should get the meetup.
Tyler,
Please send me your home phone number and address. I want to visit you to discuss a new business plan.
Jazz
Tyler Durden wrote: OK, but only if we can have a farting competition
Tyler,
Sounds good, I’ll bring the matches.
Jazz
UPDATE – well I just called. Unfortunately before I saw the last two comments, but no biggie. Here is the convo – I am sure many will find it amusing:
I call say hello, she knows its me, at least I think she does. She says nothing, clearly pissed. I say look i am a busy guy and my friend put me in a bad posiiton, I told him before i arrived i only had one night but he wanted me to stay longer. So when he said we were staying I went along with it. Again I said I was busy and laughed it off. She then said she was pissed I didnt give her my number originally (she asked and I said no) and that she was interested but then wasnt when i didnt give her my number (I think she is playing games here). Anyway I was funny and cocky and she was laughing but it was clear she was not happy. She was trying to save face. Then she asks why my friend called and not me, not only did I blow her off but i dont call…..i laughed to myself which may not have helped. I said look you are not an unforgiving person are you? I only like forgiving people (see I am learning a bit). She said no she was a forgiving person – but said she was into me and now she is mad.
The convo lasted a few minutes because of my charm, it easily could have lasted 1 min. She said to see her at hooters – but she was playing VERY angry and somewhat non-interested – like i had her but now lost her.
You know what it feels great to have called, i didnt apologize and i had her laughing. she admitted to liking me and being attracted, which is odd – and frankly not what I am looking for (a relationship) so that is not so bad. If I can get to that hooters in the next week I may have something, if not then this was a learning experience.
She also said if I had called her she would not have picked up because she has caller ID – yet she answered the phone this time.
Any comments?
No she said we can talk at hooters and that she doesnt want to have a long drawn out phone convo to save something that never got off the ground. Of course I said I would never that I am too busy for that and that I felt she was a girl that made good decisions and was forgiving. That I felt we had a nice time, a nice connection…blah blah.
Not arranging the meet is not terrible for me because it is about 3 hours away from were I am. So I told her I would be around next weekend. She told me she will be at hooters sunday and maybe during the week. She was tough and pissed. She kept saying she was interested but I was playing games – of course if I walked in and said hi you are cute can i have your number (like the guy three chairs down did) she would have laughed in my face.
So basically she told me were she will be – but no firm meet. Personally I think I owe her one more call – not to say sorry but just to let her save a bit more face. I can say funny stuff, breeze over this mishap and then got to hooters in a few days. What do you think of that?
And I appreciate all the feedback – I want ot excell at this. Without it I do well, with this knowledge I believe I can be really good.
NYC New Guy,
Why are you asking these questions on this thread? This thread is about the book The Game. Go to fastseduction.com. There are hundreds of self styled PUAs willing to give you free advice there. Maybe Tyler will even help you.
Thank you,
Window
Self Appointed Moderator
Jazz,
Tyler’s address is:
666 Dead Beat Lane
Sin City, Hades 00000
Window – I started talking about the book, but need a bit of immediate advice. NP – I won’t post about silly PU issues.
So you guys think all the girls are reading this book?
Whatever – thanks for the help everyone. I will be around.
yo, Tyluh…
..yo, nigga! Hook me up wif some a dem grits, nigga! Move yo ayuss, boy. Sheeit.
Do I gots to step to you and straight ya faggot ass out?
blacksmith is da’bomb yo!!
and if you guys couldn’t figure out that tyler durden is a faux human. well uh..you guys sux.
I get laid all the time and my game is super tight. all you have to do is be from nyc and carry around some GHB.
I think jlaix is cool.
FUCK NIGGERS AND JEWS! SEIG HEIL ADOLF HITLER! RAPE CHILDREN AND JEW NIGS
He Ain’t a Bizarre Animated Freak,
He’s My Brother
Friends, it’s time to take another look at that tired old mystery: Who fathered the Miser brothers?
This question has come up in years past while viewing the classic Rankin/Bass animated show “Year Without A Santa Claus.” The standout players in this gripping drama were, of course, those climate-controlling rascals, the Heat Miser and the Snow Miser. And here’s the puzzle: One of the Miser brothers refers to the other as his “step brother.” However, it seems clear that Mother Nature is the biological mother of both Snow and Heat Miser. We can safely assume that the term “step brother” was used incorrectly, and that Snow Miser and Heat Miser are actually half brothers. No surprise that either brother might get these terms confused — outside their limited area of expertise (that is, the stupid temperature), they are most likely dumb as boxes.
So then, the question: Who are the fathers?
Last year, after a bit of consideration, I proposed that perhaps Heat Miser’s father is the devil, while Snow Miser’s father is Jack Frost. They would seem to be likely candidates… at first glance.
However…
Recently, Felicity and I watched another Rankin/Bass classic, “Jack Frost.” I hadn’t seen this show in many years, and had forgotten that Jack Frost was just so… you know, frosty. The little elf-like suit, the girlish features, the way he just pranced around, taking to the sky as dainty as Brian Boitano on ice… suddenly it just didn’t add up. (Admittedly, a slightly better argument could be made for the Jack Frost we see in “Frosty’s Winter Wonderland”, but still… no.)
But a new candidate emerged, during that same viewing of “Jack Frost.” Felicity realized that Father Winter (Jack Frost’s boss in the winter-making operation) just might be the weirdo we’re looking for. Father Winter is a great big hulk of a guy, a truly commanding presence. One could certainly see him catching the eye of Mother Nature. And his name — FATHER WINTER — speaks volumes.
A longshot possibility as Snow Miser’s true father is the Winter Warlock, as seen in “Santa Claus is Comin’ to Town.” (We’re talking pre-”One Foot in Front of the Other”, of course.) But that’s rather unlikely, and just plain creepy to think about. So at this point, the smart money is on Father Winter.
As for Heat Miser’s father, I’m still going with my original theory that it’s the devil. In fact, at one point during “Year Without a Santa Claus,” Snow Miser refers to Heat Miser as his “devil of a brother.” Come on.
So that’s where we stand at the moment. If anyone digs up any more useful information, please contact me, as well as your congressional representatives. Then just wait by the door until help arrives.
No matter what new evidence is unearthed, one fact shall always remain clear: Mother Nature must have really been kind of a tramp.
Comments.
Booksigning yesterday was fun here in NYC. Lots of familiar faces and a shitload of new guys signing up for the ride of their life.
Comments:
Yes, Im human. When I broke up with my 4 year relationship with Patricia because she wanted kids with me in Toronto and I wasnt ready, I hurt. It hurt very badly. So I moved on by getting 3 GFs at that time. Oh and after the whole crying thing, I did get her back months later for several months more before I left for Hollywood.
Most of my relationships last only a few months because they aren’t bi but I do enjoy the companionship of women and fall in love so I at least go for a few months.
Ive had several long term relationships. They blow up when I discover Im not fulfilled so I move on. I do the breaking up. And then only after do I miss them. Its the conflict between LOGICALLY wanting someone new and EMOTIONALLY wanting the same girl.
I also got hurt very badly when the woman I chose to live with told me she was having my baby and when we discovered it wasnt the case and she went off on a drug binge I dumped her. I then hurt myself by giving permission to my roomy who secretly harboured a crush on my ‘wife’. I didnt know my emotional circuits would respond so powerfully. How could I know? I had 3 girls in my bed that same WEEK and the emotions still fucked with me. Humanity sneaks up on me from time to time.
The third most vulnerable thing in my life was when I became the man of the house when my dad died. Three of the most vulnerable moments in my life cronicled in a brilliant and truthful book. It was a tough thing for me to read but the truth is the truth.
My learning lessons:
dont fall in love with someone who isnt bi. I want a GF who needs a GF too.
dont fall in love with a drugy party girl, no matter how hot her ass is. (I do hope her family is OK after the New Orleans thing though.)
I am the tribal leader now and pretty much on top of my game. You can not be a master until you can make someone else a master. Style is a master of the light side. TD the darkside. Both are masters. And Ray Gordon? He’s a master bates.
Neil is a ethical and honorable man – someone who I am priviledged to call my very best friend. He understands me. I didnt know how much until I read the book.
For Ray Gordon: ONEITIS occurs when you desire a woman who you are not having sex with. If you not only begin a sexual relationship with her but have sex with her on a regular basis (and have her move in with you) is not oneitis but LOVE. Attempting to reframe LOVE as ONEITIS is foolish. In that case I hope to become an AFC when I grows up. When you have a rockstar GF, perhaps you too will become a lucky AFC.
Get in The Game, both the book and the lifestyle. When you are ready to become a master, Im here.
~ Love !Mystery
I will have comments about the book tomorrow. I am new – two weeks old to this stuff, see posts above. I used these techniques and they work….period!
Would love feedback from Mystery on my call back situtation and how to fix it.
The key to this game is about choice, having the choice evens the fucking score and that is key.
Tyler,
Is your RSD workshop material limited to just pick-up or do you also teach how to rip-off and screw your friends, or is that taught in an upcoming workshop? Please let me know, I’d like to start my training from the master ASAP.
Sinbad
-Scumbag in training
Tyler,
Having been an observer of some of the events that actually transpired in the book, I can pretty much tell you that Style did not make you out to look like a bad guy, he just showed how you really acted. Part of being a man is being responsible for your actions, and I hate to break it to you, but you DID all those things in the book. You know it, I know it, and now everyone knows it.
You make your bed, you sleep in it buddy.
Thundercat
Now say hello to my little frien’!!
Good one Tyler. How much more self praise and patronizing do you need to do to feel good about yourself? Isn’t it all about you being immature and adolescent?
Aren’t you the one hiding and lying in your post and not directly getting to the point or confronting the person or people you really want to confront?
Based on your postings you seem like a guy who always tries to slip out of confrontation or being on the hot seat. You’ll do everything including lie, manipulate, use AMOG tactics here, or anything else to not be on the hook for your own petty bullshit.
You need to grow the fuck up and get a clue. It’s not as if people don’t see you for who you really are.
holy craps did thundercat just shit on tyler durden? That’s a first.
anyways, all the pick up artist in the world are mentally handicapped in some form or fashion and are totally fucked up.
Pick up is about manipulation and gettin some sweet sweet pussy.
anybody who says otherwise is trying to sell ya something.
P.S. Blacksmith is still da’bomb yo.
You leave my boyfriend alone!