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RSD Lawsuit

June 3, 2005 by  
Filed under Drama & Rumors

Word has it that Real Social Dynamics has just lost a lawsuit with a dissatisfied customer.

I don’t know all the details about what went down, but I did find this from the Rip-Off Report which details some of the specifics. 

Background:
I had signed up with a company
named Real Social Dynamics, who teach men how to connect with women in
the dating scene on deeper levels, or to “pick up” on women for lack of
a better word. The theme of their product deals with what is known as
‘material,’ or canned stories, routines, and opening lines used to
engage groups of people with. The course basically consisted of going
to public venues with the instructors for most of the day and ending
usually at 2:30 – 3:00 at night/early morning. During this time, they
would force me into groups of people.

I was clearly tricked into this by their marketing techniques and
false internet advertising. I had signed up for their most expensive
package which included three days and nights of personal one-on-one
coaching.

Before signing up, I carefully read the itinerary on their web site.
Their introduction and main pages state that students will learn:

  • “How to Convert the Girl You’ve Been Particularly Interested In, From Friendship to Intimacy.”
  • “How to Properly Use Phone Conversations with Women to Your Advantage.”
  • “What Works in the Field and How You Can See a LIVE Demonstration of Successful Approaches with a Well-Trained Wingman.”
  • “How to Plan Dates That are Cost-Free, and Far More Fun For the Girl Than Any Standard Date.”
  • “How to Cultivate an Endless Repertoire of Humour and Conversational Topics.”
  • “Field-Tested Tips for Bars, Colleges, and Even the Most Exclusive Social Circles.”
  • “This is direct instruction of exactly how to do it. This has never
    been done before. Nobody else has the ability nor skill to attract
    women with this level of consistency or predictability.”
  • “How to "play hard to get", and "be the prize". Its one thing to say it, but very difficult in practice.”
  • "How to create COCKY & FUNNY material on the fly. Also, learn
    hundreds of direct examples of cocky / funny humour (several hours
    worth), and many derivations and subforms of cocky / funny humour.”
  • “How to immediately profile women’s personalities, to know what
    kind of approach they would be most receptive to. Many guys are not
    completely sure about what approach to use on any particular girl.”
  • “How to use body-language to attract, and calibrate body-language
    immediately to the type of girl and situation that you’re in, to
    attract her immediately in every situation. It’s important not only to
    recognize the importance of body language and how it’s used to attract
    women.”
  • “How to read body-language and verbal subcommunication of all
    women, to know when they’re attracted to you, and when they’ll be
    receptive to escalation. Never take another rejection – it is not
    necessary when you have the ability to read the situation with
    precision.”
  • “How to avoid getting into traps of cocky verbal sparring and
    flirting, or being entertaining, and escalate the interaction to a more
    intimate level.”
  • “How to make use of social dynamics, in a way that’s guaranteed to make women approach YOU, several times a day.”
  • “How to approach girls while they’re walking or on the move, in a
    way that they’ll stop immediate and talk to you – even girls who are
    walking past you in the opposite direction.”
  • “How to get access to and work the most exclusive venues, where the most stunning women are found.”
  • “How to tell stories, conduct conversations, and never be short of what to say.”
  • “How to quickly adjust to girls who are initially unresponsive to
    your approach, so that you never have to deal with a girl that doesn’t
    want to talk to you – get them interested in you immediately.”
  • “How to befriend the peer group of attractive girls quickly, so
    that they’ll be supportive and encourage the two of you to get
    together.”
  • “How to strategically meet girls while you’re with your own friends, and strategies for working as a team.”
  • “How to use conversational topics that will convey all of your best
    qualities, in the shortest period of time, while simultaneously
    increasing her attraction.”
  • “How to rapidly build rapport and connection.”
  • “How to comfortably escalate physical contact, in a way that the girl will find comfortable.”
  • “How to use phone conversations to your advantage. It’s not only
    important to know how to engage women in real life. Learning to work
    the phone is a massively important piece of the puzzle, which often
    goes overlooked.”
  • “Learn to convert any phone number into a get together, even if the girl is busy or not initially interested.”
  • “How to get girls that are shy on dates or on the phone to open up.”
  • “How to plan dates that are cost-free, and great date ideas that
    are far more fun for the girl than any standard date. Learn what sort
    of plans will interest girls to come out the most, and how to manage
    your dating life conveniently.”
  • “How to make girls comfortable being alone with you – "going back to your place", etc.”
  • “How to get women so sexually excited that puts you in total control.”

However, during the course, none of the above points were covered.

Second, the instructors themselves did not display any kind of
mastery that the itinerary outlines. The instructors could talk to
women and get their attention, but that was the extent of their
objective knowledge. Sometimes, while running their material, the
people would simply be non-responsive and have confused looks on their
faces. On the first night, we approached a group of one guy and two
other girls. The instructor Owen (PKA TylerDurden) did manage to
isolate the first girl while I interacted with the two friends. During
that time, he was trying hard to convince her to come back to the house
with us, using normal everyday, yet hopeless rhetoric. Given that this
woman wasn’t even very attractive, I was surprised to find us going
home by ourselves.

Third, none of what they did was objectively result-oriented. Almost
every approach would consist of me going up to a group, stating a
conversational opening line or story, and then the instructor I was
with would come to us 30 seconds later and continue the conversation.
Afterwards the instructors would try to drive the conviction into me
that the girls “were so interested in you” based on even a frivolous
small glance or hesitation on their part which could have signified
many different things. Then the cycle repeated.

Fourth, the course was unorganized. On the second day Nick Kho and
another instructor gave me the first lecture based on a ‘cheat sheet’
they handed out. This document was filled with abbreviations, acronyms,
and incomplete sentences that assumed that the reader had a knowledge
of what all these meant. Through the lecture, he would explain once
what they signified, but afterwards did not volunteer to go through it
with us again. Furthermore, I was delayed three times on a time span of
two months in excess of the original time I planned on taking it.

By the end of the course, not only did my attitude or knowledge of
social dynamics not change at all, but on the contrary, after seeing a
lack of both professionalism and effectiveness on the instructors’
behalf, my beliefs in socializing worsened. I can honestly say that I
am both worse off and monetarily down after taking this class. They did
not demonstrate mastery of the skills they offer to teach. They are
frauds with cunning advertising. I did not see any results on their
behalf or my own.

There’s a rebuttal on there from someone named Nicholas, but I guess the courts didn’t agree with him.

I wonder how this will affect the RSD business?

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Comments

102 Responses to “RSD Lawsuit”
  1. Osvaldo says:

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    Still, the posts are too quick for beginners. May just you please prolong
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