Anti-Stall Tactics

April 9, 2004 by  
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One of my biggest sticking points is that I’ll get to a certain point in a sarge, and COMPLETELY stall out. We’re talking total brain fart here, folks. The engineer has totally left the train station, and I flounder looking for something to say. At this point, the girl will usually sense the hesitation and I’ll get blown out of set. In fact, we have a term for this known as “stalling out.”

I was discussing this phenomenon with a friend of mine who’s an extremely talented PUA known as Merovingian, and he told me that he has special routines he uses for those situations wich he calls “Anti-Stall Tactics,” (or *AST*, if you wanna mASF it, lol). Anyway, these are lines he uses when he can’t think of where to take the interaction, and I gotta tell you man, this shit is $$$$$MONEY$$$$!

Basically, the concept behind an Anti-Stall Tactic is that you shift the burden of the conversation to your target by getting her to qualify to you and then pulling back without validating her. An example of two Anti-Stall Tactics Merovingian shared with me are:

“Oh, you’re a high maintenence girl.”
and
“You’re such a party girl. I’m through with party girls.”

And then turn your head away. Basically, at this point, the girl will start explaining to you why she isn’t high maintenence or she isn’t a party girl, to try to get you to see that as being the case. But you just pull back and say stuff like “Sure.” or “Okay, whatever you say.” Basically, you keep letting her try to engage YOU. And before you know it, she’s the one who’s trying to keep the conversation going.

This, of course, is only effective if you’ve already HOOKED the girl. If there’s no attraction there, or the girl isn’t into you, this technique won’t work, because there’s no motivation as to why she would want to re-engage you.

Good stuff, huh? I know I’m gonna start working this shit into my PUA vocabulary. =)

Latest Cliff’s List Now Up!

April 9, 2004 by  
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Ah, I remember the good old days when I used to get Cliff’s List through the email. Well, it seems you now have to go to a website to check it out, but that’s cool. However, even when sending out the website, people have trouble, because Cliff has to adjust the link to get past spam filters. So as a public service to the community, I am posting the link here for everyone to enjoy.

You can read the latest Cliff’s List here.

This month, there are articles by Tyler Durden, Stripped, Carlos Xuma, Ole Flirty Bastard, Stephane, and yours truely. Stripped has a pretty good review of the recent BadBoy workshop I suggest you check out. My article is just on the Art of Approaching. Tyler’s is a write-up of the Australian DYD seminar that I posted here yesterday.

Latest Cliff’s List Now Up!

April 9, 2004 by  
Filed under News

Ah, I remember the good old days when I used to get Cliff’s List through the email. Well, it seems you now have to go to a website to check it out, but that’s cool. However, even when sending out the website, people have trouble, because Cliff has to adjust the link to get past spam filters. So as a public service to the community, I am posting the link here for everyone to enjoy.

You can read the latest Cliff’s List here.

This month, there are articles by Tyler Durden, Stripped, Carlos Xuma, Ole Flirty Bastard, Stephane, and yours truely. Stripped has a pretty good review of the recent BadBoy workshop I suggest you check out. My article is just on the Art of Approaching. Tyler’s is a write-up of the Australian DYD seminar that I posted here yesterday.

The Dark Side of AMOGs

April 9, 2004 by  
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You know, I think one of the greatest advancements in this Pick-up stuff recently has been the addition of AMOG (Alpha Male Other Guy) tactics.  It’s such an important thing to know how to do, because inevitably, you’re going to be engaged in a set that involves men who are in competition to get your targets.

One thing I’m often asked about AMOG tactics are by guys who are afraid of getting in fights with other guys.  The fact of the matter is, most guys don’t want to fight.  They’re as afraid of getting fucked up as you are, and for the most part, people are civilized and would rather move on and have a good time than ruin everyone’s night by causing a scene.  So for the most part, AMOGing is a rather peaceful and effective tactic.

But there are those occasions where the guy you’re AMOGing is such a braindead macho shitbag, that his instinct to throw down overpowers all logical and social reason, that he’s going to want to fight you.  This is what happened to me last night.

I was basically out at a club with some friends of mine, and a girl comes up to my buddy (he had opened her earlier in the night) and starts talking to him.  I see she’s with a guy, some fuckin’ Argentinian gangbanger who’s got a distinct "drug dealer" vibe to him.  You know the type — decked out in Urban Outfitter wear, with a gold chain, and a greasy goatee with a whisp of a mustache like he hasn’t fully reached puberty yet.  And he’s sitting at his table, eyeing my buddy like he’s the anti-christ, stewing in his own anger at the fact that the girl he’s with isn’t into him.

So he gets to his feet and tries to step up to my friend with the pattented:

"Oh, what?  You’re like a player, motherfucker?  You trying to move in on my woman?"

Of course the girl tries to keep him at bay, and like a good PUA, my buddy agrees with him, saying "Dude, you’re so right.  You’re so smart and observant.  But I could never compete with you, bro.  You’re a much better man than I am."

Of course, this guy’s synapses stopped firing long ago, so anything my buddy said would only make him angrier.  He started saying stuff like "You wanna step to this?" or "C’mon bitch.  Let’s take this outside."

I stepped in and tried to help by telling my friend "Oh, dude, this guy’s too tough.  He’ll kick your ass.  Best let it go, he’ll drive you into the ground."

Of course, this only enraged the moron more, but now he was fixated on me.  He started calling me a "fucking skinhead" and trying to start shit, even though I’m about 5 inches taller than him and outweigh the featherweight by a good 100 lbs.

Security ended up stepping in as he started trying to lay his hands on me and my buddy.  But the security at the club was so fuckin’ stupid they didn’t kick the guy out, and he kept following me around trying to start shit.  Eventually, his buddy (who was on parole, by the way) had to drag him away to keep the police from getting involved because it looked like things were gonna come to blows.

The thing is, I think most guys need to be ready for this type of situation.  I’ve taken martial arts in the past, and knowing how to defend yourself is definitely a plus.  Knowing when to walk away is good, but if it’s a case like this where the guys is ACTIVELY trying to fight you, it’s best to stand your ground and be ready to fight.

There are a few things that I think are important to do in these situations:

1.  Never turn your back on an aggressive AMOG.
2.  Never break eye contact with the AMOG.
3.  Position your body so you look like you’re ready to fight.
4.  Do not say a single fucking word.

Let me expound on these points a bit…

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Deconstructing Swinggcat, Vol. II

April 8, 2004 by  
Filed under Analysis

A while back I wrote a post about an upcoming Newsletter of Swinggcat’s that I thought was going to be really excellent. He recently sent it out and gave me permission to repost it here on the site, so I’m gonna do my usual thing and instead of just reposting it outright, I’m gonna break it down with my own thoughts on the subject.

Respect the Process…
Hey guys,

Lately, a lot of the questions many of you have been sending me relate to a specific issue – one that hits very close to home for me. The heart of this matter is less obvious to most men than an insect flying towards an ultraviolet bug zapper, thinking, “the light is so beautiful!”… zap!

For many, dating and attracting women is about the male ego at war in the singles scene trenches. I spent a lot of time coming from this place, deterring me from the massive success with women I desperately sought after.

The Male Ego War is quite a good metaphor in my opinion. It’s very much about how most men in society rate their validation — through the approval of women. By going out and looking to hook up, we put our egos on the line, hoping that we will get the validation we seek. We think “Oh, if a hot girl likes us, then we’re not ugly, or bald, or fat, or anything bad! We’re good the way we are! We’re worth loving!” But when we don’t get that, our Ego is crushed, and most men will descend into a pit of misery and self-loathing, all because some girl “had to go to the bathroom” and left us holding our wanker.

My big breakthrough – transforming me from an average Waldo into a rock star with women – came when I adopted a single mindset. But before I tell you what this mindset is, let’s take a look at two categories of mindsets that can sabotage a man’s success with women.

The first category relates to men believing that their lack of success with women is due to their own shortcomings. I get questions, for example, from guys asking if the reason why such-and-such girl doesn’t like them is because they are bald, or short, or old, or gauche, or blessed with an unfunny wit, or as sexy as a hairy mole…or whatever. These emails break my heart because I spent many years coming from the same place. I think most of us to some extent have. Maybe it comes from some unfounded myth in our culture, disseminated by media, school, parents and friends, purporting: if someone is of perceived higher value than you, they are not allowed to be attracted to you. I don’t know? But I do know one thing: the same type of women I once felt unworthy of, are now very attracted to me. I, furthermore, have short, bald, fat, broke friends who are constantly attracting beautiful, sophisticated, intelligent, wealthy women. Are you becoming a little suspicious of this cultural myth? Good!

Speaking as a bald, fat, broke guy, I can say this is pretty accurate. The idea of percieved social value is such a stupid one, because it doesn’t exist. It’s not a tangible thing that is grounded in reality. It’s all about perception. I used to think that because I’m not an attractive guy, I’d never be able to get the kind of girl I wanted. But I’ve seen HUGE fat guys, REALLY ugly guys, and even MIDGETS, all of which could get really hot girls. And because of that, I came to the realization that most of the things that were holding me back were in my head, and in fact did not REALLY exist. In fact, the barriers I put up for myself were about as real as the percieved social value of the women I lusted after.

Anyway, the newsletter gets better…

The second category relates to men believing that their lack of success with women is due to
something in their external environment. One mindset that fits into this category is the belief that certain venues are not only difficult but next to impossible to attract women in. I once had a mentor, for example, that told me that bars and nightclubs are unfeasible environments for a man to attract women, unless he is wealthy, famous, or model good looking. And that the vast majority of women dwelling in these venues are either gold diggers, party girls, drug addicts, or have a personality that rhymes with witch (Looking back,
I now realize that the source of his bitterness towards women in bars was probably a result of his own social ineptitude – sad!).

He went on to tell me that a viable solution is to meet women in coffee shops and bookstores. This is great if you live in a place where bookstores are the happening place for attractive women to hang out. This, however, was not so for me. If I wanted to meet three or four attractive women, I would have to spend hours waiting. I suspect that I was not alone – I bet many other places in the world are similar. At night, however, I occasionally would join my friends at bars and nightclubs. These places were filled to the gills with attractive women. I would, unfortunately, remember
my mentor’s far from sage caveat: “It is next to impossible to attract women in bars.” And then sit there like a Waldo watching my very average looking friends ATTRACT these beautiful women. I know now that I was limiting my possibilities of meeting desirable women. The higher number of attractive women at a venue, the more possibilities you will have for attracting women you desire. It’s not that bars and nightclubs are always the best places to meet women – there are exceptions. But to rule out environments full of attractive women – such as, bars and nightclubs – because of your own insecurities is to limit your own possibilities of ATTRACTING desirable women. Oh, by the way, many of the women who go to bars and nightclubs are neither gold diggers nor party girls nor drug addicts. Surprisingly, many are sophisticated, intelligent women.

This is the concept that really got to me when Swinggcat first told me about it. There’s this idea that certain places are difficult to meet women in, or that certain women are unattainable, or that we have certain shortcomings. But if you step back and look at reality objectively, you realize that none of that exists in life. Life is neutral. Reality is what it is.

It’s when the human mind becomes involved that things get screwy. I can remember walking into bars and clubs in college and thinking “How can anyone meet girls in these places?” The thing was, I was projecting a barrier into my view of reality that skewed my perception in such a way that I believed it was IMPOSSIBLE to pick-up in an environment such as that, when the truth was that it IS possible, I just didn’t know HOW it was possible.

These barriers we project are a big deal, because they are the things that hold us back from reaching our goals. Yet, they do not exist. They can be taken down as easily as they are put up. This is what I find so fascinating about this observation from Swinggcat. That in a way, because we project these barriers, AND have the ability to take them down, we are, in effect, in control of our own environment. And because of that, there is no excuse not to succeed with our goals, no matter where we are or what they may be.

Notice with both mindset categories, a person projects an external barrier into the world that
often times is nothing more than a figment of his imagination. These barriers are like a dark depressing cloud looming over him.

So this begs the question: What is the proper mindset to have?

The proper mindset is about:

1) Purging your self of worries both about your own shortcomings and possible barriers in the external environment.

2) Focusing on the process of emotions you are taking her through.

3) Focusing on controlling the META-FRAME: the underlying meaning of the interaction.

As I have said in the past: ATTRACTION is not how a woman judges you, it is what you do to her mind and body. The “body” part is the emotions you take her through; while the “mind” part is you controlling the underlying meaning of the interaction.

Basically, what I think Swingg is saying here is this: you need to get out of your head. You need to mentally step back and look at what your belief system is bringing to your situation and adjust it accordingly.

When your mindset (or concern) is nothing more than both getting women so emotionally charged they are wanting and reaching for you, and defining the META-FRAME as you being the one who is the PRIZE in the interaction, you will be well on your way to being a rock star with women.

On more than one occasion I have seen a guy doing fantastic with a woman – he was getting her so
emotionally charged she was chasing him and he was defining the META-FRAME as him being the PRIZE in
the interaction. But then something happened, such as, another guy came up and started talking to the
woman he was attracting so well. Instead of keeping his composure, he stood their nervously, buckling
completely. The women intuitively picked up on his fear and the attraction was lost – she no longer
felt COMPELLED to CHASE him, and no longer saw him as the PRIZE. Her whole experience with this poor
guy had now been recontextualized. Even though this woman was feeling attraction for this guy – I
know she was because I saw it with my own eyes – she would soon rationalize to herself, for example,
that she was never attracted to him in the first place. If he had tried to reinitiate conversation in a Waldo-esque way, she might have responded with something like: “You are a loser; I would never sleep with you in a million years.” But this would only be her rationalizing in retrospect. Had he triggered the right emotions in her again and taken back control of the META-FRAME, she might have slept with him. And afterwards, rationalized how wonderful he was.

Other guys coming in and interrupting your interactions with women is another barrier you project into your environment. Fact of the matter is, other guys are not that hard to deal with if you know how to handle them. That is why I think AMOG (Alpha Male Other Guy) tactics are important, because they allow you to handle these guys in a quick and effective way. Once you know how to Beta some dude who comes up and tries to steal your girl, that barrier that you thought was there before ceases to exist. It’s that simple.

In my book I spell out in great detail the process for creating attraction between you and another woman. There are many other systems out there that claim to teach this. But what they suggest comes across so socially awkward it is kind of like trying to squeeze a square peg into a round hole. Not the
case with what you will learn from me. What I teach is comes from watching people who have exquisite social skills. So, you won’t be doing anything that comes across as socially weird or awkward. I’ll teach you
how to develop your own personality in a way that will not only make you more attractive to women; it will
make you more likable with each and every person you come into contact with. Take a giant step towards the life you deserve by checking out my book today:

http://www.realworldseduction.com

One big problem with many of the tactics out there, especially the ones that lack sufficient field testing, are that they ARE socially awkward. Part of being a good Pick-Up Artist is being able to consistently mimic the skills of a Natural Player with women. We have an advantage most Naturals don’t because we understand what we’re doing and why it works. But Naturals do what they do from the gut, so in that respect, their game is not socially awkward. A Natural will disregard most barries that other guys will usually project onto a location, woman, or situation, and just go in and do what they do best.

It’s for this reason most Naturals are so successful. Disregarding your barriers and respecting the process of attraction and seduction will get you far with women.

Girl Humor

April 8, 2004 by  
Filed under Rants & Reviews

You know, I find it interesting how easily ammused most girls can be.  I can remember when I was a little kid, I used to go to a barber, who was a pretty attractive woman, to get my hair cut.  And while she was cutting my hair, she’d tell all these lame-ass jokes.  And she loved me because I knew a bunch of lame-ass jokes too, which were really cutting edge in the 3rd grade, you know?  But it seems most girls continue to love this level of humor.  Maybe it’s their maternal instinct to love all things that are somewhat juvenile, I don’t know.  But I do know it’s an interesting phenomenon that I’ve been capitalizing on a lot lately.

One of my favorite openers to use is the Gay Cow Opener, which is a form of a Joke Opener (if you don’t know what that is, it’s in my book the Art of Approaching, along with other examples of Joke Openers).  I used it about four times tonight on various different women, and a funny thing happened… they started telling ME jokes.  And the thing is, the jokes were just as bad, if not WORSE than the Gay Cow joke, yet the girl’s all LOVED them.

I think these silly jokes are a form of chick crack, as Tyler puts it.  Simply telling a stupid, simple joke will quickly engage a girl, make her laugh, and get her to try and match you with a semi-funny quip.  I’m thinking about maybe next time this happens just looking at her with a dead stare and saying "That’s not funny," or something to see how she reacts.  Might be a good way to get her to qualify to me.  Who knows?

Anyway, just to give you an idea, here’s just a sample of Girl Humor, which I got from one of my targets tonight:

What do you call a Gay Dinosaur?  A Dino-sore-ass.

Is it any wonder why we find women are so puzzling?  =)

Tag Teaming the PUA Summit

April 8, 2004 by  
Filed under Field Report

Okay, I’ve been harping on the Summit alot lately, I know, but it was fun. As things Turn out, both the imcomparable Jlaix and Top Gun Wingman TheOne wrote up Summit Reports that showcase their usual winning personalities.

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Recap of Australian DYD Seminar

April 8, 2004 by  
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Well, Tyler has posted a review of his on mASF about the most recent DYD seminar in Australia.  I know the guys all had fun down there, and DYD seminars are quickly becoming big events in the community.  I know that the next one here in LA is looking to be a veritable SUPERBOWL of PUA with some of the best guys from around the world coming in to attend.  I, of course, still have not recieved my invitation, but that’s okay, I’m not bitter… yet.  =)

Anyway, here’s Tyler’s recap.  Keep in mind, it might be a bit biased because Tyler is in good with David DeAngelo, but I don’t feel that makes it any less relevant, especially to people who may be interested in taking a DYD seminar in the near future (which I would recommend, btw).

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Review the Lair

April 7, 2004 by  
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Hey guys,

I just got contacted by Blogorama, a blog directory I’m listed on, and was informed of a feature where people can review my site. Anyway, I’d be interested to hear what everyone has to say, good or bad, so I’m putting up the link for you guys to write up what you think about this little corner of cyberspace.

If you’re interested in helping others get interested in the community, this is a good way to go about doing it. Just take some time out of your busy day to Review My Site!

And if you guys wouldn’t mind, Blogstreet also has a review feature, though it’s slightly more of a pain to use because you have to register for it, but feel free to just copy and paste your reviews there or write a whole new one if you want. It’s just nice to have a few people take notice when listed with all those other blogs out there! You can find the Blogstreet review form here.

Tyler’s take on the PUA Summit

April 7, 2004 by  
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Well, it looks like Tyler chimmed in on his impression of the PUA Summit, which some of his typical insights thrown into the mix. I’d have to agree that Style, the most powerful of the Jedi, probably had the best speech of the weekend, even if it did go on a bit long and he felt the need to neg everybody in the room. But there was still a LOT to learn from it. And seeing him play his multiple Girlfriends was awesome. He truely deserves his #1 spot on the Top 10 PUA list!

Anyway, here’s Tyler’s rundown…

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Tyler’s take on the PUA Summit

April 7, 2004 by  
Filed under Field Report

Well, it looks like Tyler chimmed in on his impression of the PUA Summit, which some of his typical insights thrown into the mix. I’d have to agree that Style, the most powerful of the Jedi, probably had the best speech of the weekend, even if it did go on a bit long and he felt the need to neg everybody in the room. But there was still a LOT to learn from it. And seeing him play his multiple Girlfriends was awesome. He truely deserves his #1 spot on the Top 10 PUA list!

Anyway, here’s Tyler’s rundown…

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MINE’99 Invented something in ’97!

April 7, 2004 by  
Filed under Drama & Rumors

After their showdown this last weekend at the LA PUA Summit, it seems MINE’99 and Tyler Durden are back to their old feud which is starting to become the PUA equivalent of Hatfield and McCoy.  Tyler kicks things off:

Tyler Durden writes:
Some great replies in the "Getting girls to open up" thread. I haven’t had time to read thoroughly and take notes yet.

Something I noticed Style doing was showing genuine curiousity in the girl. This is the SOLUTION to asking things about the girl, without conveying lower social value.

To which, MINE’99 responds, living up to his name.

MINE’99 writes:
Well, I’ve been teaching for years and years that GENUINE curiosity is a fine way to start a seduction.

MINE’99 then goes on to expound…

This is all on my Magick/PI videos. I have been teaching this since 1997.

Look out!  MINE’99 is actually going BACK IN TIME and altering the commonly held belief that EVERYTHING was invented in 1999!  This is like finding the dead sea scrolls or something, folks!  Our view of the universe is actually SHIFTING, much like those who did not believe Gallileo when he said the Earth revolves around the sun!  Well, I tell you to believe!  Heseforth, the date of 1997 shall go down in the anal of history.

How will Tyler respond to this new development?  My guess is he will try to perform Mystery’s pattented TIME WARP merge to actually Marty McFly himself back to the dark ages of 1997 and assume the form of one Kenrick Cleveland, therefore effectively making claim that HE HIMSELF invented this concept!  Mark my words, Tyler’s game is getting to the point where that CAN happen.  =)

Anyway, all kidding aside, you can read the whole thread here.

MINE’99 Invented something in ’97!

April 7, 2004 by  
Filed under Drama & Rumors

After their showdown this last weekend at the LA PUA Summit, it seems MINE’99 and Tyler Durden are back to their old feud which is starting to become the PUA equivalent of Hatfield and McCoy.  Tyler kicks things off:

Tyler Durden writes:
Some great replies in the "Getting girls to open up" thread. I haven’t had time to read thoroughly and take notes yet.

Something I noticed Style doing was showing genuine curiousity in the girl. This is the SOLUTION to asking things about the girl, without conveying lower social value.

To which, MINE’99 responds, living up to his name.

MINE’99 writes:
Well, I’ve been teaching for years and years that GENUINE curiosity is a fine way to start a seduction.

MINE’99 then goes on to expound…

This is all on my Magick/PI videos. I have been teaching this since 1997.

Look out!  MINE’99 is actually going BACK IN TIME and altering the commonly held belief that EVERYTHING was invented in 1999!  This is like finding the dead sea scrolls or something, folks!  Our view of the universe is actually SHIFTING, much like those who did not believe Gallileo when he said the Earth revolves around the sun!  Well, I tell you to believe!  Heseforth, the date of 1997 shall go down in the anal of history.

How will Tyler respond to this new development?  My guess is he will try to perform Mystery’s pattented TIME WARP merge to actually Marty McFly himself back to the dark ages of 1997 and assume the form of one Kenrick Cleveland, therefore effectively making claim that HE HIMSELF invented this concept!  Mark my words, Tyler’s game is getting to the point where that CAN happen.  =)

Anyway, all kidding aside, you can read the whole thread here.

First Major recap of LA PUA Summit 2004

April 7, 2004 by  
Filed under Field Report

Machiavelli posted a recap and review of the LA Pick-Up Artist summit that occured this past weekend. It’s probably the most comprehensive one to come out yet from the viewpoint of an ASFer. You can check the whole thing out here. But there is one thing I wanted to address from his post:

Machiavelli writes:
April 2, 2004:

The infamous Jlaix “get punched in the back of the head” workshop took place. I guess Matrix was his first student as he got fukn wacked by this coward. We went to the hospital and I get to learn a lot about Rocckstar and Tommy W’s games. Tommy cleared up a lot of questions that I’ve had and he gave me a few tips and pointers to up my game. We go over to the Project Hollywood Mansion again and I meet up with Mystery & Style. Formhandle taught me a lot of stuff about AI’s and such that night, and he’s a really cool & funny ass guy. I think this was the day that Herbal T, Wilder, TheOne, and Cristophe(San Francisco Crew) pulled like 7 girls to the Mansion and were gonna fuck but I guess they didn’t. I crashed at the house with Mystery and I passed out only to wake up with jlaix towering over me. I fell asleep again and waked up the next morning for the seminars. I ate with Thundercat that night at the Rainbow Bar & Grill and he seemed money.

I’m going to be a greedy cock here and brag: I pulled three girls up to the mansion with the help of Christophe and Herbal that night. I only say this because… well… I’m a greedy cock who wants his props yo!!!!! lol.

A quick rundown of what happened. We were all at the Saddle Ranch, I open a 3 set of German chicks… well, actually, I tell Christophe to open with the tried and true “Can I have a cigarette” opener (I don’t smoke, otherwise I would have done it). I quickly engage the group, and one of the chicks is really closed off. Herbal comes along and isolates her, opening her up while I game the other two girls for a while. Christophe comes back into set and we isolate both our girls and get them to venue change to Mels. While there, we do some push-pull, DHV shit, then pull them back up to the mansion. It looks like it’s on with Herbal’s girl, but a sudden strike of ASD hits and she pulls the other two out of our grasps.

TheOne then enters with a nice little two set that he and PlayboyLA game.

While all this is going on, there is a HUGE cockfarm of ASFers who creep out the girls just with their sheer numbers.

It was fun, nonetheless. But I’m gonna be a baby and take credit for that one damnit!!!!! =)

mASF Interns needed

April 7, 2004 by  
Filed under News

Looks like Papa has started a trend. Now Formhandle is in the market for some slave labor! =)

Formhandle writes:
I am jealous of Papa having interns! :-)

Actually, it’s a good idea. I need some way to balance the load for myself, while also giving an opp to 1 or 2 guys (or even girls) who would like to get involved somehow with the site (mostly non-technical) and get a chance to hang with me on occasion while out. I’m not sure what I can offer in return right now other than the obvious opportunities and, of course, I’ll sign any paperwork for college credit (i.e. in the context of business or psychology studies – even anthropology!).

If you’re interested, mail me directly with your “resume” of experience and what your interests are, what college you attend (if at all), and what kind of schedule you have available. Title the subject with “[Intern position]“. You MUST be reasonably local (within 50 miles of Boston). Certain tasks might be possible from afar, but I’d prefer local people for now.

If you’re interested in becoming a peeon for a dating guru, feel free to email Formhandle here.

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