Recap of Australian DYD Seminar

Well, Tyler has posted a review of his on mASF about the most recent DYD seminar in Australia.  I know the guys all had fun down there, and DYD seminars are quickly becoming big events in the community.  I know that the next one here in LA is looking to be a veritable SUPERBOWL of PUA with some of the best guys from around the world coming in to attend.  I, of course, still have not recieved my invitation, but that’s okay, I’m not bitter… yet.  =)

Anyway, here’s Tyler’s recap.  Keep in mind, it might be a bit biased because Tyler is in good with David DeAngelo, but I don’t feel that makes it any less relevant, especially to people who may be interested in taking a DYD seminar in the near future (which I would recommend, btw).

Tyler Durden writes:
I recently attended the very stellar Double Your Dating Live seminar program with David DeAngelo, in Sydney Australia. It was a long flight from California to Sydney, but well worth the trip. The seminar rocked, and Sydney was the perfect city in which to test drive all of the new material and understandings. The venues at Darling Harbour and others throughout the city were phenomenal. Like walking into a model convention. Our "American accents" (mine is really Canadian) didn’t exactly hurt either. More on that below.

For those who haven’t heard David’s other programs, this was a follow up and expansion of his Advanced Series DVDs and Sexual Communication programs. The seminar contained a few previews of the upcoming Mastery Program, and a ton of other new stuff. I was very excited to hear the seminar, because the Advanced Series and Sexual Communication programs were very pivotal in the development of my game. I have been a student of David D for about a year and a half, which also happens to be around the time that my game really started to really take off. I remember the first night I went out after listening to the Advanced Series, and using the now well-known "bratty little sister" frame to pluck a cute girl right out of a guy/girl 2set for a very exciting night. The Sexual Communication CDs were also the basis for much of my understandings of subcommunication and all of the various concealed levels of communication that are fundamental to attracting women in a natural way.

What really impressed me about the previous programs was that they were really based on the naturally successful guys’ way of interacting with women. David has been fortunate (or perhaps intentionally clever) to have spent a lot of time hanging out with naturally successful guys, and his programs are in part modelled after the fundamentals of their success. There is a natural process by which women are attracted to men, that involves subcommunications of frame control, bodylanguage, tonality, attitudes, internal beliefs, and a general way of conducting yourself both on verbal and non-verbal levels. The program is groundbreaking, and yet, given time to absorb it you realize that it all makes perfect sense. Unlike many other programs, DYD is less geared towards pushing lots of superficial level tactics, and is more a phenomenal consolidation of everything that is real world and natural and empirically verifiable. Any person can adopt it, and see results immediately. That was my experience, and is what I believe to be realistic of anyone else who takes the program. As can be expected, I was very excited to attend the new Sydney live program.

The seminar got rolling and grabbed my attention immediately. David is a phenomenal speaker and got the ball rolling with some very intriguing material. There was a great first line that really stuck with me after the program. "Think back to the last girl that you really blew it with by coming across needy and of lower social value. Now take her name, and add the word ‘mistake’ to the end of it. You now have your official term of reference." For me, it was Cheryl. Since the seminar, I have countless times cut myself off from screwing up with the various women that I’m seeing. "Uhoh, the Cheryl mistake. Stop it now." Poof, problem solved. There were many other examples of this genre throughout the seminar, which I found very helpful with inner game. David really has a phenomenal grip and ability to articulate the ways that guys are prone to come across needy, and spoil their attraction with women. There were several times during the seminar that I was left shaking my head, thinking back to all of the relationship mistakes that I’ve made over the years. He was just shredding through piles of them, and you could really feel the guys in the room pierced with self-recognition. I almost felt like he was addressing me personally. It really hit home.

There were some great expansions on both the biological background to attraction, and of course David’s staple outer game concept of cocky and funny. Much of this I’d never encountered, such as the explanation of Light and Dark biology and psychology. It was very fascinating, and shed light on many of the tendencies that I’ve seen in people over the course of my daily life. There were many slides and examples of body language and composure, all of which came back to what he called "The Prime Directive", which was, "Never Communicate Lower Status". The corresponding outer game tactics were useful and very well explained as well. David had a plethora of great lines. A personal favourite was his explanation of women acting overtly sexual as a sort of shit test. "A Matrix style EPM bomb that neutralizes every sentinel, or guy, in sight". I use it as a routine now, whenever girls get out of hand. Notably, David had in attendance a DYD staff member named Billy who was a total natural with C&F. He had his own style of observational C&F style humour. Billy will go into any situation, and quickly find something useable. For example, he will spot a fresh stain on a girls’ shirt, and tease her for not knowing how to do laundry. Or he’ll use reversals, like busting on girls that she needs to get to the gym with a totally straight face, when he’s very obviously out of shape himself. Seeing his facial expressions and delivery in real life was great. David’s other co-worker, Chance, was another natural with some great stuff on being carefree and coming across fun and non-approval seeking.

The highlight of the seminar, for me, was when David took some time to briefly discuss personal matters of his life philosophy and success strategies and experiences. During a Q&A session, a student asked David about his internal beliefs and personal experience in the dating field. You could feel the whole room go quiet, as the vibe was that David was about to share something special. I’ve heard plenty of this kind of information from other sources, but it was particularly inspiring to hear someone speak on this subject who actually walks the talk, and has obviously gotten the results. It was very fascinating to see how this philosophy and ensuing habits was what lead him to success with women, and how success in general life was tied into a bigger picture. David really projects an aura of success and congruence, which women very obviously respond to. I think that that’s something that really distinguishes David from other many dating other experts, in that he is an individual who thoroughly understands patterns of success, and has applied that proficiency to his field of choice – dating.

As for the caveat emptors, I really can’t bring to mind anything that wasn’t completely positive. I had a great time. The event was very professional, and positive. The hotel and the lunches were great, and everything was kept very punctual and well managed. Many of you reading this will have heard rumours of the stunning blonde bombshell, Shannon, who helps manage the program. She did a phenomenal job being helpful and making everyone comfortable. It is obvious that she is totally on the ball. Notably missing from the DYD alumni were Craig and Farmer, who I’ve met previously and were awesome. I expect that they will be at the Mastery Program in Los Angeles.

Having watched the DVDs, I was very interested to note of all of the advantages of the live program. David encouraged group connections, and post-seminar contacts. The group thinking exercises were very helpful. And the live atmosphere was very much more involved and immersed than the DVD/CD experience. One thing that my close friend and Toronto wing, Twentysix, has reinforced into me in the past year is that repetition and immersing yourself into something is what really pounds change into your subconscious mind. It shifts thinking patterns and forces internalization and attitude shift.

So having taken the seminar, the real question is the bottom line – did I see worthwhile improvements as a result? Absolutely. I paid very close attention during the seminar, to ensure that I’d get the most out of it. The night after the seminar I went out and immediately applied what I’d learned. While on a bus, I spotted an adorable girl in the seat behind me, accompanied by a friend and two other guys. To my surprise, I spotted a little wine stain on her shirt, that she’d obviously had spilled on her earlier that night. I thought it must be fate that right after hearing Billy’s line about the laundry teasing, that I should spot something like this, so jumped on the opportunity the second I saw it. She was very responsive, and I proceeded to tease her and make faces at her. The interaction was playful and fun, and the frame was very much that she was working to gain my attention. My friend was sitting in the seat in front of me, and right on all of the high points of the interaction I’d pull away a bit, and turn back to him and say "Is she waiting for me to come back?" His reply every time, "Like a puppy dog, man. Turn back to her." We went into a venue together, and I introduced her to my sister who was visiting with me. The whole time I kept up the cocky & funny, with the kind of frame reversal teasing that David goes through in his seminar. "I need to tell you something. This is serious. I’m pregnant. Our reckless handholding has had consequences. I hope that you’ll want to be a part of our new child’s life, but either way I’m keeping it and there’s nothing you can do about it. I’ll be waiting for the monthly support check. You can start now by getting me something to drink. Oh my goodness, I just felt it kick. Hurry on that drink. Our baby needs it." Likewise, I focused on conveying that I have standards, in a slightly cocky and playful way. "To me, a girl has to be honest. She has to be smart and flirty and playful and fun. She has to have good friends and family that she loves so she’s not needy. And she has to be able to fix cars and pay my bills. Perhaps you have none of these qualities except for the last two. But you have the cutest little Aussie accent, so I want to keep talking to you anyway."

That’s something that I really like about David’s material – it is even more potent on the kinds of girls that are confident and playful. This girl so clearly really did possess the first qualities that I’d mentioned, so by using implied compliments towards her in a way that was layered and taking two steps forward and one step back as David teaches, it was just so effectively communicated. Because of the teasing, it came from a position of higher status, not neediness. She later told me that she really liked that. I took her contact info, and we went out the next day. We toured the famous Sydney Opera House and surrounding Botanical Garden. A free date, and with so much tension it was really one of the most fun days I’ve ever had. I did the kiss-test, and it came back greenlight so I went for it. We hooked up, and we’re still in touch now via email. I hope to meet up with her again this summer when I’m in Europe.

Anyway, it was a very memorable weekend in Sydney, and I wanted to share my experience. Though my game with women is very strong, I continue to learn from others and focus on continually improving. I give David DeAngelo and DYD my unconditional vouching as a top product that 100% delivers the goods. I’m looking forward to the Mastery Program in Los Angeles, and participating in future events.

Well, looks like Tyler tipped his hat about some of the content we can expect to see from the upcoming Social Mastery audio course from the DYD camp, which will be recorded at this month’s LA Seminar.  Could be an interesting series.  I look forward to finding out who the guest speakers at this event will be.  Rumor has it the Legendary Rick H. will be there, as well as Swinggcat and Tyler Durden.

You can read all of Tyler’s original post here.