Six Lessons From The Field On Approaching Women
February 26, 2010 by scotmckay
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I still get a huge adrenaline rush every time a guy flies in for a live, on-site weekend of coaching with us here in San Antonio.
At the baseline level, there’s the simple “do or die” factor associated with being the one who’s got to set the example first…paving the way to potential success for the guy who’s trusted me enough to put me to work for him.
Then comes the thrill of watching someone go from good to great at approaching women and creating attraction over the course of a weekend…probably finding out what that feels like for the first time EVER.
But there’s also something else that energizes me. As much as I’m immersed in all things related to male/female attraction on a daily basis, I still learn A TON every single time I’m in-field with a student.
Some times what I learn is ALL NEW. Other times it’s more like I get to witness a striking, real-life example that demonstrates in a particularly powerful way why a certain strategy really works.
Either way, it’s amazing and a lot of fun to experience.
This past weekend was no exception. So if sharing some of what happened is of any benefit to you at all as you interact with women on a day-to-day basis, then so be it.
Here are a half-dozen noteworthy points that came up over the course of the weekend. My guess is that some of what follows you may instinctively suspect is true already, but a dose of honest-to-goodness field-tested feedback can never, ever hurt.
1) What You Need To Know About Meeting Women At The Book Store
You’ve heard that bookstores are great places to meet women, and I agree. There’s one major caveat, however—and one I never knew about until this weekend.
Guess what? The next time you get blown out at Barnes and Noble, it may not have been about you at all. Apparently, every multi-level marketer in the “get rich quick” world spends his or her time prowling bookstores on Saturday afternoon stalking people.
You’ve got to be kidding me.
During debriefings after approaches my friend made, I spoke to at least two women who expressed they were reticent to talk to ANYONE at a bookstore because of that. Interestingly, they both STILL were enchanted by the conversation my friend had with them, so this isn’t exactly a “deal breaker”.
The takeaway here is to pick an aisle other than the one with all the business books, and choose an opener other than, “Hey, it looks like you’d like to make some extra money on the side too, huh?”
All told, that should be relatively simple to avoid.
2) The Stronger And More “Independent” She Is, The More She Wants You To Lead
We noticed a pair of female friends sitting at the bar, one of whom appeared to be particularly strong-willed and confident. You know the type. Lots of grandiose hand gestures and perpetually projecting the kind of body language that screams “Yeah, right”.
After my friend had a conversation with the pair that clearly engaged them effectively, I followed up to ask them how they think it went.
The one with the strong personality, who looked a lot like Pink, blurted out. “Why didn’t he just tell me to give him my number? We want a man who tells us what to do.”
Seizing the opportunity to explore that one, she went on to spout this gem: “The next time a guy takes me out on a date and asks me what I want to do, I’m going to tell him to drop me off at the Walgreen’s [drug store] because I’m out of tampons.”
Isn’t it interesting how we as guys tend to think we ought to yield MORE to strong-willed women rather than LEAD more? You’ve got to give women a man they can respect, and the stronger of a personality she is the more frustrated she probably is by the men she’s been meeting lately. Count on it…and step up to the plate accordingly.
3) If You Say You’re Sorry, She’ll Agree
One of my soapboxes is how women are hard-wired to follow our lead as men. If the point above demonstrates that fact, this one whacks it upside the head with a shovel.
Simply put, if you open a conversation with a woman with something to the effect of, “I’m sorry to bother you, but…” you’ve already stacked the deck against yourself.
4) Why Downplaying Your Interest Is Actually An Insult
We tend to think the best course of action when approaching a woman is to downplay why we’ve shown up in her airspace.
But least one time this past weekend my friend had to work to recover from exactly that kind of opener.
All he had said was that he was getting bored, so he decided to start a conversation.
Let’s just say that women don’t want to be the solution to your boredom. They actually WANT you to be interested in them. They WANT to know they captured your attention for real.
Imagine that…for many women it’s not only okay to express to them in some subtle way that you were attracted, it’s PREFERABLE.
Obviously, however, keep it simple. Don’t pre-approve them as the new mistress of your universe. That’s worse than being bored…that’s just boring.
5) A “Hybrid” Of Direct And Indirect Game Is Virtually Unstoppable
How about this? Instead of debating whether or not “direct” or “indirect” game is the best way to go, consider using what I can only call a “hybrid” of the two.
We got more than our fair share of the usual feedback from women that they inherently KNOW what is going on when a guy approaches them. Beating around the bush only betrays a low level of confidence.
But then again, saying something like, “I saw you from across the room and had to meet you” does indeed come off as a bit too strong for some women.
I’ve personally had great success with the latter type of approach, but yes…you really do have to gauge what the woman’s personality type is going to be like before starting the conversation in order decide whether or not you can pull that off.
And that, of course, isn’t always the easiest thing to do.
The disarmingly simple truth is this. If you open with a confident line that conveys the right amount of energy, all the while not hiding AT ALL the fact that you were intrigued enough to come introduce yourself, things are WAY more likely to end well for you.
This concept has proven itself over and over again.
An example from this past weekend would be when we approached two women at a booth in a restaurant and casually mentioned to them that we were the self-appointed managers in charge of making sure everyone was having a good time. When they laughed and began telling us how everything was, we told them that was great, but really we had just wanted to meet them.
The combination of playful banter and unabashed confidence won them over with breathtaking speed. Emily and I turned away and started dancing together, leaving my friend to bask in the glory of this one. Nice job.
6) Stop Fearing Whether She Is Married Or Not
You know how the classic excuse goes. We talk ourselves out of approaching a woman because, “What if she’s married or has a boyfriend?”
Here it is: IT DOESN’T MATTER. At least not as far as getting “rejected” is concerned.
Why not? Because if you approach a woman the right way, it’s JUST A CONVERSATION…at least at first.
As it turns out, at least 50% of the women my friend approached all weekend were NOT single. And yet, every single one of those women still engaged in conversation. EVERY ONE of them.
But here’s the crazy part. At least a few of them smiled, nodded, leaned in and played with their hair. Whatever attraction “looks” like, they exhibited it.
If you really have to find something to worry about in order to stay warm at night, concern yourself with what you’re going to do when you’ve flat-out enchanted a woman enough that she really, seriously WOULD go out with you…and THEN you find out she’s married.
That’s far more likely to be a well-founded concern than getting shut out from the get go. I’m telling you, there are A LOT of frustrated wives out there, gentlemen.
All told, we had visited Barnes and Noble, a killer outfitter store, Target, a restaurant noted for employing particularly sexy waitresses and even the grocery store during the daytime.
At night, we warmed up by singing karaoke in front of the gnarliest audience in town…just to feel the love. Then we progressed from a well-lit and very social bar to an equally friendly Irish pub.
After successfully meeting and enthralling two or three women at a time at those types of places it was time for the ultimate test.
We invited one of Emily’s attractive single friends along and we went to the two most notorious upscale hangouts for single people in town. You know them well: The AMOG-infested shark tanks with a granite bar, Chimay on tap and Italian sports cars littering the parking lot.
Same results. And you can add a seventh bullet point to the list above. Self-absorbed d-bag rich guys are a turn off—even to the women who showed up because they thought they might like to get asked out by one.
My friend from out of town RULED. He and Emily’s friend even ended up getting along VERY nicely. Go figure.
After pulling an all-nighter culminating in the standard “Breakfast Debriefing” over Chorizo and Egg tacos at Chacho’s around 4.30 am or so, it was time to hit the airport.
The last thing I said to him as we were pulling into San Antonio International was this. “OK, man. You’re on a run of having successfully talked to fifteen women or groups of women IN A ROW—I counted. There’s no reason why you shouldn’t have your confidence HARD WIRED by now. But just in case, here’s the first thing to do once you get out on your own this morning. Talk to at least one woman here in this airport, and another when you change planes at DFW.”
I looked over and he was sound asleep…exhausted.
I laughed, and continued out loud, “Alright, you talked me into it. You get a ‘Mulligan’ here. But at DFW for sure.”
He caught his plane on time…and all was good in the universe. As I drove away, I was reminded of why I’ve got the greatest job in the world…again.
When I got home I cracked a Shiner Bock and watched the 7am SportsCenter. I couldn’t sleep.
Be Good,
Scot McKay