Bishop Reveals The TRUTH About MINE’99!
May 27, 2005 by Thundercat
Filed under Drama & Rumors
Wow,
Okay, so I haven’t been reading every single response on my blog lately, due to that fact that I’ve been travelling a lot and have been busy with work. But when I do sit down to catch up on things, oh what gems I find!
It seems Bishop and MINE’99 have been going at each other’s throats again, and it’s all been happening on my blog! Shocking, considering Bishop has proclaimed he’d "never post on my blog again" and MINE’99 seems to hate this website so (but spends almost all of his free time on it, it appears).
It all started on the "Louis & Copeland vs… David DeAngelo???" thread where MINE’99 went on the offensive attacking David D. for running more than one website selling stuff that no one really cares about. Then Bishop swoops in and fires the opening salvo in the "Revenge Of The Sith"-epic flame ware that is to follow.
Read on, you’re not gonna want to miss this one…
Louis & Copeland vs… Carlos Xuma???
May 27, 2005 by Thundercat
Filed under Drama & Rumors
A while back I put up a post called "Louis & Copeland vs… David DeAngelo???" where I talked about a newsletter the "How To Succeed With Women" Dynamic Duo put out that sounded like David DeAngelo, the genius behind "Double Your Dating," was threatening to sue them.
Well, a new twist in the story has turned up. Another fairly well know dating guru, Carlos Xuma, the brains behind Dating Dynamics, apparently read my post and emailed me to clear something up. I’m reposting this email for your reading pleasure below:
Carlos Xuma writes:
The "threat" was when I sent them an email after one of their "everybody else is a scam" emails went out. They’re trying to start a dirty smear campaign. (Next thing you know they’re going to accuse PUAs everywhere of staying at Michael Jackson’s house.) What I was trying to tell them was to "Watch out" about their negative and demeaning tactics. Next thing you know, they spin it to mean that they’re being threatened.I don’t have a very high opinion of those guys right now. I’m putting out a veiled rebuttal in my Seduction Method newsletter today. I’ll send it to you for grins.
Anyway, let me know when you’re back in the states and we can chat about things.
Carlos
And send it he did. Check it out:
5/12/2005 Seduction Smarts
Getting Men Confident and Successful With Women … (Without Guilt)————————————
THESE GUYS DON’T GET ITPardon my rant here, but I got this email the other day from a couple of guys that give men advice on dating women. I can’t believe some of the stuff they put in this email. And I’m feeling a bit sad for them, really.
I don’t usually address what other people say, but something here really needed to be addressed.
First, I want to be clear that I really think these two guys have the potential to be sharp at this field, but they’ve decided lately that they want to try and make others look bad in their efforts, which is a shame. I know they read my emails, and I know they’re getting a lot of ideas from my work, which is okay with me, but they’re resorting to negativity and putting down other advisors as a method to get ahead.
They’re trying to turn what we’re doing into some kind of ugly competition, and they’re smearing other people’s names instead. Unfortunately, negativity works against us all.
And it seems as if it’s all in the name of hurting me and others who are trying to help guys out there be successful.
Read a little of what they wrote:
"TRYING to be the "apha male" — that is, pushing other guys around, acting tough, and worrying a lot about how "alpha" you are — actually makes you LESS "alpha."
HUH???
Guys, I have read everything imaginable on this topic, and nowhere does anyone say to act this way to attract women. Not even the BAD stuff I read tells guys to behave like this.
It’s not about acting like a jerk, or competing for a woman’s attention.
Nor is it some kind of barnyard behavior, the way they present it.
It’s about demonstrating dominant characteristics that help men realize their dreams with women… and their lives.
When I talk about being an "Alpha Man" it’s about turning on those powerful behaviors and beliefs in yourself that allow you to accomplish what you want.
It’s never about this kind of behavior.
Geez….
C’mon, guys.
I’m shaking my head here, because I see what’s happening, and it’s frustrating to watch.
You see, I know these guys want to have more men come to their seminars and spend their money. They charge a good deal of money for these seminars, but I’ve never attended one, so I cannot comment on the quality.
But I do know this: Most of you don’t have the means to fly around and take these classes.
I want to give you the means to learn as much as you can … from wherever you are, and at whatever skill level you’re at.
It’s all about HOW you behave with women, and HOW effectively you can read and integrate in social situations.
These are skills you can learn and use, and they’re not watered down to the point of being ineffective. I’m also not afraid to tell you some things that they would find too shocking to admit.
Remember that before you learned how to ride a bike, you had to pay attention to every motion, and maintaining your balance, and steering, and a dozen other things. AFTER you got the hang of it, it became transparent and you could then do all the cool stuff without thinking about it.
It became natural.
You can’t just FALL into the right behaviors, you need to LEARN them.
And THAT is what the Alpha Man model teaches.
I have faith that you guys are smart enough to avoid this kind of negative smear-campaign emails if they pop into your in-box.
Remember that you need to beware any advice that tells you NOT to listen to other people’s advice. That shows mistrust for your intelligence. Keep your mind open and fresh.
And avoid negative thinking, in ANY form.
Jeesh. Talk about a bitchslap! I guess David DeAngelo was innocent of threatening Louis and Copeland after all.
It’s funny, because I used to think the fueding only went on between keyboard jockies on mASF, but now I see it’s something everyone gets into from time to time.
But one thing is certainly clear: Louis and Copeland don’t seem to be winning any friends lately.
Dating Dynamics Blog
May 27, 2005 by Thundercat
Filed under News
A new blog just came to my attention (I love how seduction blogging really seems to be taking off! It might be my outrageous ego, but I like to think I had something to do with it =). It’s the Dayting Dynamics Blog, hosted by the one-and-only Carlos Xuma! It looks he’s updating it pretty reguarly, so I look forward to seeing his upcoming articles. You can check out the site here:
Dating Dynamics’ "Alpha Man Seduction" Blog
If you guys know of any other dating/seduction related blogs I don’t have linked, please email me and let me know.
Kind Regards
May 25, 2005 by Thundercat
Filed under Rants & Reviews
There certainly seem to be a lot of losers trolling this blog lately who only seem to like to spew venom and spread negativity wherever they go. Though I can’t understand why anyone would put so much time and effort into such an endeavor, it certainly seems like there are a few bad apples posting that like to put people down, me in particular.
That’s why it’s always encouraging to get emails from people who actually appreciate the time it takes to keep a site like this up and running. One email I got recently, in particular, was especially gratifying, and I wanted to share it here with you all…
Glamor writes:
Simply …. you are THE MAN…there are three things I’d like to thank you for :-—————————————————-1) Your website (Seductionlair.com) :-No other website is more resourceful than yours… very organized
.. gets updated regularly.. and gets us the news from all those guys
from the seduction community (Mystery – RSD Guys – Swinggcat…etc) ..
and I know some of the stuff you have on your website is a collection
from other sites… but you pick the good stuff and just list them for
your members… Awesome.—————————————————-2) The Interviews you do :-First of all I just like how you pick the guys you wanna
interview… and who are really good and successful with what they
do…. I don’t like bashing at other people’s audio interviews but
there is another guy who is considered an advanced guy in the seduction
community.. and he has a series of interviews with pua’s .. but I don’t
think that guy checks the credibilty of the people he interviews.. and
I say that simply because one of the guys he interviewed really sucks
with women.. I’ve sarged with him… and also he took the Mystery
Seminar with me to improve.. but they lied to be on that guy’s
interview series…and on top of it all… the way you do the interview is just
awesome… although audio quality and the short time wish to be
improved a bit… but that’s understandable.. you are basically
handling the website.. the interviews and the books alone by
yourself… alot of load on your shoulders… and actually in the last
interview with MasterClass.. both those catagory improved great deal…
and every interview you do is different and has it’s own thing going…Superb work Thundy…—————————————————-Honestly there are few books out there that are good.. to the
point and easy to read and follow… some authors are good I think..
but they are just not that informative or may be they don’t know how to
deliver the point.I thought your first book kicked butt! … now I am not quite done
reading the 2nd edition.. but I am really really enjoying what I am
reading.. the framing things…. the confidence…etc. ..I really like
how you are touching on these subject because they are really
important! …I learned alot from the first book… it made socializing
and picking up chicks alot easier for me…. in my opinion .. (DYD Book
- Swinggcat’s book – The Art of Approaching) .. are all what you need
bookwise to be a pua.. and the rest is up to the guy to sarge and
excute what he learned….Seriously I am not bragging… when I tell you.. your book kicks ass…—————————————————-I want to thank you man .. seriously for the excellent work you
are doing… and I know you are not getting enough credit for the work
you do… you deserve alot more..but I do truely appreciate your work
and I know many people do too…. and I just read about your Euro
Trip… so that would be a good thing for you to enjoy your time and
live it up…. and I hope you come back in time to attend the Cliff’s
List Seminar and give us the whole recap on it… since I am still
abroad but hope to be back home in Cali.. sometimes soon…. Thank you
Thundy.. keep up the great work… Regards.
Women Who Cheat On Their Husbands
May 25, 2005 by Thundercat
Filed under Rants & Reviews
On an anti-marriage site (appropriately enough named "nomarriage.com") they have an article up about all the married women who love to cheat on their poor husbands which I thought was quite interesting…
Women Who Cheat Say They Enjoy the Thrills, Study Finds
Posted July 14, 2003 — Virtually all of the adulterous women interviewed in a recent survey said they cheat because
they deserve all of the pleasure and thrills associated with a secret affair.Ninety percent of the cheating wives said they suffered absolutely "no guilt" but felt "entitled" to the good feelings
they got, according to Susan Shapiro Barash, a professor and author, who randomly interviewed 120 women from a
diversity of professional backgrounds, ages and races for a recent book on the issue.She posted ads in YWCAs to find women who were sexually active, according the report on her study in The New York Post.
She said her research reveals that six in ten women will cheat on their husband at least once during their marriages.
"Women feel entitled because they’re not getting what they need in marriage," said Barash, who wrote A Passion for
More: Wives Reveal the Affairs that Make or Break their Marriages. "These women would recognize her need – her desire
to have more in her life than she had in her marriage. "For the women who choose it, it’s with great effort, so they
really juggle the affair and somehow fit it in."Baltimore psychologist Shirley Glass agrees with Barash.
"I don’t see women feeling a lot of guilt," said Glass, in her recent book, Not Just Friends: Protect Your Relationship
from Infidelity and Heal the Trauma of Betrayal . Women with careers and financial resources can take more risks, she
added: "If their partners find out, they can take care of themselves."But Barash has her dissenters. "I have not witnessed a growing experience of ‘entitlement.’ Their conscience is
bothering them," Kristen Harrington, a marriage counselor in upstate New York, told the Post .Glass also found surprising changes in men who mess around.
She said that men’s affairs tend to be almost exclusively about sex; they’re usually just getting "a little on the
side" with a female subordinate."Now, men and women are working together as equals, with a lot of intellectual energy and common interests," Glass
said. "It’s a combination of emotional and sexual bonds. And it’s more dangerous because it creates an alternative to
the marriage, rather than just a supplement."Still, being equal in some ways hasn’t erased the differences in why men and women cheat, some experts say.
"Men have affairs to boost their self-esteem and because it’s available. Their feelings are closely tied to their
sexuality and potency," Brooklyn psychologist Marcella Bakur Weiner said. "Women don’t just want a night of joy and
pleasure. No matter what the feminists say, women want love. They want emotional attachment and bonding."
It’s funny, because we all know that women are driven by emotion. They’re emotional junkies, which means that any man who can get their good emotions flowing is going to be able to sleep with them, and according to this article, the women for the most part have no guilt about it!
I think this kind of thing can be both very enlightening and very disturbing.
Enlightening because it means that just because a woman is married, doesn’t mean she’s off the market.
And disturbing because it means that just because a woman is married, doesn’t mean she’s off the market!
Often times, when people get married, there’s this idea that they’re going to stay true and faithful to each other for the rest of their lives, and the sad, sad truth of the matter is that this type of commitment can be very rare!
I’m not saying all women cheat on their husbands, but I do think that most women are inclined to do so if they’re not being satisfied emotionally or sexually by their husbands. In fact, I kind-of touch ont his subject with this month’s interview with Masterclass over on SeductionLair.com where he talks about how he picks up married women, and that if you know how to please a woman she’ll be incredibly loyal to you for as long as you want. (in fact, the sexual conditioning techniques he outlines pretty much give you a step-by-step method to make sure she never cheats on you — ever!)
Thanks to David for pointing this one out.
Official Orgasm Day
May 25, 2005 by Thundercat
Filed under Quotes & Humor
Only in Brazil would this happen…
Sex rarely makes the news in Brazil’s conservative north-east -
until a small town declared an official Orgasm Day.Espertantina Mayor Felipe Santolia endorsed the May 9 holiday,
which he said was intended to improve relationships between married
couples."We’re celebrating orgasm in all its senses. There’s even a
panel discussion on premature ejaculation. But from what I’ve seen,
women have more trouble achieving orgasm than men, especially in
marriage," Santolia said.Santolia said the remote town of 38,000 people has been
unofficially celebrating orgasm day for years, but the town’s
former mayor had vetoed a bill making it an official municipal
holiday.The city council passed a law Saturday creating the holiday.
Santolia, who took office earlier this year, said he would sign the
bill today."I’m 32, single and I have an open mind. Besides the theme is
very much of the moment," he said.Orgasm Day celebrations include a series of panel discussions by
sexologists from across Brazil and a presentation of Eve Ensler’s
play The Vagina Monologues.
You gotta love a country that officially devotes an entire day to cumming.
Hat tip to intlzncster for this one. =)
Learn Sexual Aggression
May 25, 2005 by Thundercat
Filed under Tips & Tricks
Allesandro has an interesting post up on mASF…
Allesandro writes:
LEARN HOW TO FUCKING DESIRE A WOMAN LIKE A BEAST.Don’t hold anything back. Don’t go slow and timid. Go at her at full force for and at full speed and take her. Lift her, tear her bra, bite her all over. Spill liquor on her chest .. run AMOCK. Really show her you want her.
You can’t break that rope-walking dating mating crap until you do that. If you encourage a girl to go wild, dance aggressively, ride your crotch, throw her legs around, scream, bite you back, call you MOTHERFUCKER, etc. you will empower her to have a good fuck. No matter how cool and sexy you’re, in the back of her head she is holding something back and trying not to intimidate you. Watch the dance floor, you see most guys are actually FOLLOWING the woman’s foot steps, they’re acting slow. Most couples go for the slow-dance songs. Most guys still like holding hands and gazing into each others eyes. People avoid fast music and they don’t want to race their little hearts, they don’t wanna break a sweat, they wanna go out in their pressed shirts, get numbers and come home with their shirts still pressed. Young people in my town CARRY UMBRELLAS; Why the fuck are they afraid of getting wet? If you’re out getting laid, carry your essentials in plastic and expect to get wet, be it rain, liquor or body fluids.
Maybe he wrote this with a little more "vigor" than I would, but I do think there is something to displaying sexual aggression with a woman.
I think that too often, guys get caught up in a game of trying to "trick" a woman into liking them or sleeping with them, where we try to be too subtle or manipulative in our approach. When men are blatently sexual and are unafraid to let a woman see that and see that they want to sleep with them, I do think women respond in a different way.
Some women may not be into it, but you’re giving clear signs to the ones that are that you WANT them and you’re not afraid to show it. I think that can be a powerful thing, especially early on in a sarge.
Heading back…
May 23, 2005 by Thundercat
Filed under News
Well, it’s my last day in Europe, and I’m getting ready for my marathon plane ride back to the states. I had a really good time out here, and I was glad I was able to come, but I’m also glad to be going back home. I love the United States, and I miss it dearly, so it will be a welcome return to my modest apartment in Los Angeles.
I must say I had a lot of fun with a great many British people while out here. They are fun to drink and party with, and the dry humor they have just kills me. I also love British accents on women. Very sexy.
I got to meet lots of different kinds of women out here (see my post on European Women for details), and I’m glad I got to experience their cultures and customs through them. It was a fun and eye opening experience.
For those of you wondering, I was not in any of the Eastern European countries while I was out here, so I have not really gotten to experience all of Europe, though I plan to sometime in the future when I have more free time and my bank account is fatter. =)
Until then, I’ll just have to settle for good ol’ American women, I suppose.
PS: Regular blog updates will once again start on Wednesday.
European Women
May 20, 2005 by Thundercat
Filed under Rants & Reviews
Hi all,
Sorry about the lack of posts lately, my trip to Europe has been quite the whirlwind, and since I don’t own a laptop, I have to find the occasional internet cafe to access the web, and since I’m paying for my time online, I can’t surf the web looking for great posts to comment on as much as I would like.
This will be my second week out here and I’m running on maybe three hours of sleep and little-to-no money (damn the Euro exchange rate!!!), but I am having a very good time running around to all the different nightclubs and meeting women of numerous nationalities. I do hope to actually learn another language so that the next time I come out here, I can actually communicate with most people (surprisingly, there are a lot who don’t know English). Honestly, most of my pick-ups recently have been borderline pantomime due to the language barrier.
European women are an interesting bunch, though. Quite different from the ones we got back in America. I didn’t notice it as much last time I was out here, but since I’ve been hitting the scene like a hungry wolf looking for sheep, the differences have become quite apparent to me. If there are any Europeans out there reading this, I’d like to hear your thoughts on my musings…
First off, I do notice a big difference in the gender roles here in Europe as opposed to America. Women’s Lib never seems to have migrated across the Atlantic, so many of the women I meet are quite docile/subservient. If you’re aggressive enough, even if the girl isn’t all that into you, you can get her to go along with what you want (I guess this hearkens back to the whole "control the frame" thing I talked about earlier, but in a way it’s more important out here because the women tend to take more cues from men).
Secondly, I notice that money definitely plays a big role out here in Europe. It’s as though women are looking for good providers out here, and having lots of money will definitely help you get them. Now, I’m not the richest guy in the world by far (especially considering the Euro outweighs the dollar at the moment), but I’ve gotten a lot of mileage out of telling women I feel the man should provide for them and support them. That seems to go over really well, though in the US a line like that would only work on certain girls.
To expand on that "money" line of thought a little bit, I’ve also noticed that many of the women out here sell themselves to men, and this is considered quite common. A Russian girl I hooked up with told me that many women are trained early on to perform that way. My first night in Europe, I actually picked-up on three different women, all of whom asked for money. The thing was, it wasn’t really prostitution (though in America we’d think it was). These were normal girls who were looking for a man to support them while they were with him and they wanted to send money back to their families in poorer countries. Needless to say, I didn’t go home with any of these women, but it was a big wake-up call on the difference between American women and women out here in Europe.
Don’t get me wrong, in LA, women are for sale too, but it’s usually a more subtle thing. Some women go for rich guys or famous guys, or whatever, but they’re a bit more manipulative about it (ie: gold-digers).
Oddly enough, I’ve found that American women are easier to pick-up out in Europe than they are back home. Maybe it’s because they’re on vacation and are looking to cut loose, or maybe knowing another American is nice for them and it’s an "instant connection" thing. But the difference is quite noticeable.
Sometime soon when I get the chance, I’ll have to come back and actually TRAVEL around Europe to see what other countries are like. Though I think I may have to take the time to recharge my bank account before I do that, though. =)
Euro-Trip
May 9, 2005 by Thundercat
Filed under News
Just a heads up to everyone,
Posting might be a bit sporatic the next two weeks or so, as I’m traveling to Europe for a while. Yep, it’s going to be beaches, amazing wine, and beautiful women for ol’ Thundercat for a brief time. I’m really looking forward to it. The women I met in Europe last time I was there were incredibly sexy and a whole lot of fun! 
I’ll try to keep the site updates as regular as I can. If anyone out there wants to help me out by emailing me interesting articles or posts, please feel free to.
Bar/Club Pick-Up Audio Download
May 9, 2005 by Thundercat
Filed under News
For all you members of SeductionLair.com, TheZD over at the Motha B Show has made a brand new 40 minute show available on the site for download. This month, TheZD covers the bar and club pick-up game. It’s packed with great information and is definitely worth checking out.
Some Quick Thoughts On Frame Control
May 9, 2005 by Thundercat
Filed under Rants & Reviews
I’ve recently noticed in my interactions with girls just how important frame control can be when it comes to seducing them or picking them up. I’ve been playing around with this a lot lately and wanted to rant a bit on my findings.
As Rick H is always fond of saying: "If you say anything with enough authority, people will believe you." This couldn’t be more true. For those of you who haven’t seen the movie "Sexy Beast," go out and rent it tonight. You’ll see the ultimate example of frame control, and how powerful it can be.
For those of you who don’t know anything about "Frames," let me explain what I’m talking about briefly. "Frame" is short for "frame of mind." It’s a set of rules, expectations, or beliefs that one accepts to be true or inevitable. When you "set a frame," you’re creating rules, expectations, or beliefs that you are accepting to be true. You can then impose this frame of mind you’ve created on others, and they too will accept these rules, expectations, and beliefs to be true as well.
So when you "Control The Frame," you’re dictating to others what they will believe to be true or inevitable. So if you’re talking with a girl, and you set the frame that the two of you are going to sleep together tonight, if she accepts that frame of mind, guess what? It’s going to happen.
Sometimes this can get hairy because other people may have a strong frame of mind as well and won’t accept the frame you’re setting. In this case, the stronger frame will win (ie: the person who believes in their frame of mind more). Sometimes it’s a draw and the two people walk away from each other.
One thing I’ve noticed is that most women (not all, but most) have quite pliable frames, and if you exude a certain amount of male dominance, you can impose your frame of mind on her quite easily.
I’ve been experimenting around with this for a while now and have found it to work quite well. My style of doing it has become rather aggressive, and if you have the right type of energy and persistence, it can be quite powerful.
For example, the other night I was out with some friends at a bar and went outside with a friend who wanted to smoke. While out there I started talking to a girl. When my friend was done with her cigarette, I turned to the girl I had just met and said:
ME: You should come inside and join us.
HER: I’d like to, but I can’t.
ME: Yes you can. Just come with us.
HER: I can’t, I’m waiting for my friends.
ME: You can wait for them inside with us.
HER: But what if they don’t find me?
ME: They will. We’re easy to spot and have a good view of the door. Come on.
HER: But what if –
ME: They’ll find you, don’t worry. Come on.
Then I took her by the hand and lead her back to our table. Eventually, her friends showed up and they all joined us. It was quite a fun night.
But you see how that worked? I set the frame that she was going to join me at my table. And every objection she raised, I answered powerfully in a positive fashion. I always maid a point to say "Yes." and "You can." I made her believe that she could join me no matter what, without any negative consequences.
Whenever you’re setting the frame, there’s always a point where you can see the person you’re talking to accept it. It’s like a switch is flipped behind their eyes and they light up. In the example above, I went a bit further by taking her by the hand and physically leading her back to the table. I also said all this stuff with a good energy and strong eye contact, so it wasn’t threatening.
I’ve had some pretty interesting results so far this this tactic, and I plan on experimenting with it more.
Thanks To All…
May 9, 2005 by Thundercat
Filed under News
I just wanted to say thanks to all the people who emailed me this weekend about the new edition of The Art Of Approaching. Your comments have been very supportive and positive (though I can’t say the same for some of the loyal posters on this site, tisk, tisk). As always, feel free to email me any comments, suggestions, or opinions on the book.
The NEW Art Of Approaching 2nd Edition
May 6, 2005 by Thundercat
Filed under News
Hey guys,
Remember how I told you guys something big was coming? Well it’s finally here!
When I first released my book, The Art Of Approaching back in the summer of 2004, my goal was to make an easy to follow, step-by-step manual to help teach guys the hardest part of the pick-up:
Meeting Women.
Because let’s face it! Meeting women is the hardest part of the attraction game, hands down. But once you’re able to meet the kind of woman you want, anything is possible!
Over the past year, I have been listening to every little bit of feedback and advice from my readers. Some guys wanted more detail on how to meet women, some wanted more information on what to do after the approach, and a few even wrote to tell me that they already knew everything I told them in the book!
So I’ve saved every last email I’ve gotten and figured out exactly what it is my readers were looking for from me. And a couple months ago, I sat down and decided I was going to give it to them!
Thus, the 2nd Edition of The Art Of Approaching was born.
I’m not the same man I used to be when I first wrote this little ebook on meeting women a whole year ago. Since then, I’ve gone out thousands of times, met lots of exciting new women, and personally grown a great deal.
The five exclusive chapters in the NEW edition of The Art Of Approaching all reflect this.
Now, in along with the Art of Approaching — where I teach you in detail how to meet any woman you want, anywhere you want, anytime you want — you’ll get these chapters:
- The Art Of Body Language
- The Art Of Confidence
- The Art Of Flirting
- The Art Of Storytelling
- The Art Of Being Social
All told, I’ve added almost 100 new pages to the 2nd edition! And I now cover every single FACET of meeting women, from getting your inner game in order, to learning to read the signals a woman gives off, to building attraction and creating a healthy social life. It’s all here!
Here is just a small peek into what you can learn from the new Art Of Approaching:
• The Secret To Sexual Body Language So You Can Read A Woman Like A Book And Know Exactly When To Make Your Move.
• How To Create Unstoppable Confidence To Get Any Woman You Want Without Fear Of Rejection Or Failure.
• Proven Methods And Pick-Up Lines To Help You Meet Any Woman You Desire, Regardless Of Where You Are Or Who She’s With!
• The Best Places To Meet Women So You Won’t Have To Waste Your Precious Time Looking For That Special Girl.
• How To Find Out If A Woman Likes You So You Can Take Out All The Guess Work From The Dating Game!
• How To Effectively Flirt With A Woman And Quickly Get Her Attracted To You.
• How To Captivate A Woman’s Imagination So You Become The Man Of Her Dreams, And Not Even A Current BOYFRIEND Will Keep Her From Falling For You.
• The Secrets To Being Popular With Women So You Will Constantly Have Women Approaching YOU!
• And Much, Much More…
The 2nd edition of the book has been released for one week now, and the response I’ve been getting is phenomenal! For those of you who’ve bought the first edition of the book, you’ll get even MORE out of this version. And for those of you who haven’t bought my book yet, the time to do so is now! You can check it out for yourself here:
I promise you won’t find a better guide on how to meet women in any book store or any website anywhere! A lot of the new material in my book comes directly from my own experiences, and has been tested and proven to work over and over again!
There is no better time than this Friday night to learn how to meet more beautiful, sexy, fun women! And The Art Of Approaching 2nd Edition will show you how.
And if you’d like to check out a few of the new chapters from the book, click the links below:
Sample Chapter 1
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Complete Guide To Starting Pick-Up
May 4, 2005 by Thundercat
Filed under Tips & Tricks
Everyone’s favorite swashbuckling pick-up artist, Dimitri of Rapid Social Impact fame, has a great post up for beginners on how to start getting women.
Dimitri writes:
I’m going to break down the fundamentals of starting the art of pickup.
These skills are critical and fundamental, regardless of what style or
camp you subscribe to.That said, these aren’t rules. Everything I write is flexible and variable, as it should be.
Now, my first three "non-rules" are:
1) Like yourself.
2) Be confident.
3) Have fun.Those are my first three. The criticals. The essentials. What you need to be doing for *anything* else to work.
With those three, and just those three, you can do anything. However,
while those first three are critical for just about all parts of a good
life, the next two are also very useful.4) Stay open-minded.
5) Learn.That’s it. If you can manage those five things, you’ll be on your way.
If, after a solid base in those five things, you go out and start
actively socializing, you’ll be able to achieve a master’s proficiency
in this art.Now, let me break them down a little, and throw in a some advanced
discussion. If any of this starts to confuse you in some way, because
you’re new to this, or you feel you’re reading too much, or whatever-
stop. Take a break, skip a paragraph, whatever. This is a reference,
not a novel.1) Like yourself: The root cause of everything good that can ever happen.
You need to like yourself as a person. You need to accept every part of
yourself, even the parts you don’t like (which doesn’t mean don’t try
to change for the better).For all you analytical folk: There is not a single advantage to disliking yourself. Consider that.
For all you emotional folk: Your whole life will be better and you will feel stronger and more alive if you like yourself.
What do I mean by "like yourself"? It’s so simple, but so difficult.
Here’s some random points I’m just going to throw out. It’s not
all-encompassing, but it’s an idea.Alright, I’m an American. Here in the U.S., we’re given a double
standard from birth. Basics of self-esteem are taught throughout school
and by parents, but at the same time, people are often put down.
Parents, teachers, and authorities often turn a blind eye to bullying,
reasoning it off as "kid stuff". The media constantly draws and redraws
a fake "norm" that people should strive to achieve, and are ostracized
if they deviate from it. In countries based around consumption, the
idea of non-satiation rules supreme, and people are told to be never
satisfied. You’ll be happier with a faster car, a better razor, the
most fashionable suit, the new soda that’s got a great taste while
being very low in carbs…People are told they can’t be happy without stuff. They’re constantly
taught to seek validation, and insecurities are played upon on a daily
basis. There’s a happy feel-good message of "Everyone is a special and
unique snowflake" that’s said in elementary school, which is promptly
mocked and satirized.In short, people are given a billion reasons not to like themself, and
told not to decide for themselves. At the same time, most people THINK
they like themself when asked, and often can’t realize that they, in
fact, don’t.I used to say **** like, "Damn, I ****ed up again. I hate myself." in
my head. I didn’t even realize I was doing it for so long, but when I
caught on, it became sickening. I’d say it *so* much without even
recognizing it. I really did believe it.My breakthrough came when I realized there were many, many good things about myself. I genuinely came to like myself.
Now, how to do that? I can’t say, exactly. But now you’re aware of some
of what’s going on. There is no reason not to like yourself… you’re
the only you you’ve got. Strive for improvement, but like and accept
yourself. It precedes and precludes almost all good things in life,
including good relationships with other people and good sex with
beautiful women. It’s critical.2) Be confident: The world is yours for the taking.
Confidence. Arguably the single most important interpersonal skill. If
you act confidently, everything from business to family to
relationships to (yes) pickup will go more smoothly.What is confidence for me? It’s knowing that I have lots of ability and
infinite potential. I know I’ve got skills that I’ve honed to a precise
degree and I can use them decisively. But more importantly, I know that
anything I don’t know or can’t do… I could. With practice, with
teaching.I think people trying to explain confidence is where a lot of the
rhetoric here came from. Most of it’s right, but it’s convoluted. I
can’t tell you exactly what confidence will be to you, but you’ll know
it.For me, it’s about fighting my fears when they come up, and defeating
them. It’s about using my abilities as well as I can, but after I’m
trying my best, I move decisively. I know I’ll do the best job
possible, so why doubt myself?I act quickly, decisively after I’ve picked the best course. This is
because I know I have ability and infinite potential. There is no
failure: There is only success and learning.3) Have fun: If you’re not having fun doing something…
This is key to true success in anything. To truly be good at picking up
women, you’ve got to have fun doing the whole process. If you want to
do work in nightclubs, you’ve got to have fun going out to nightclubs.
If you want to do bars, you’ve got to enjoy bars.You’ve got to have fun socializing. From approach to close, you’ve got
enjoy what you’re doing and spending time with women and people. If you
go out with a wingman, you’ve got to like him and like spending time
with him.It doesn’t matter how or what’s fun about what you’re doing. It could
be that you like the music of where you’re at, or you like
self-improvement, or that you like going out with your friends that
came with you, or you like karaoke at the place you’re at… it doesn’t
matter.Just have fun. Your results will be infinitely better if you’re having
fun, and no matter what happens, you’ll have had some fun.***So, those are my "primary three". I think that those three skills
are pretty much necessary for a truly happy life. Anyone can improve in
those three areas, and improvement in any of those three areas will
translate to improvements *EVERYWHERE* else in your life.So remember: Like yourself, be confident, and have fun.
4) Stay open-minded: Consider and reconsider *everything*.
This is as much a life skill as a pickup skill.
Open-mindedness is considering and reconsidering anything and
everything. Aside from the fact that your time is valuable, you should
always be willing to consider a new point of view or rethink an old
one. Even fundamental beliefs of yours may change from time to time,
and even if you can’t accept some things at this time, don’t be afraid
to rethink them later.Part of open-mindedness, for me, is tolerance. I’m not going to go on a
feel-good, politically correct trip right now, because I’ve got some
unresolved views on tolerance myself. On the whole, though, I like to
live and a promote a live-and-let-live philosophy. Be kind whenever
possible, to anyone, regardless of who they are and what they do. Note
that I said "whenever possible", which doesn’t mean get walked on.
Also, kindness is not subservience or supplication, and don’t get them
confused. Be willing to rethink what kindness really is from time to
time: It’s possible that some things the media raises you to think are
good and kind acts, like buying a woman dinner, is actually unrelated
to true kindness and tolerance.5) Learn: Learn about anything and everything. Why not?
When I say learn, there’s two things I’m driving at.
I like learning about anything and everything, and I think it’s
invaluable to me. I know about all sorts of little interesting things,
and my life is better for it. I can relate to many, many different
people on different levels, and can talk to them about it. I can think
in different ways about different things, and come up with interesting
conclusions.So, learn things in general, because it’s useful to you, and will benefit you in pickup (and other aspects of your life, again).
Secondly, learn as you do. Strive to be better and improve. When you do
not achieve what you set out to achieve, learn from it. You can repair
mistakes you’ve been making with practice and guidance. Try to think of
creative solutions, and ask for help when appropriate.Seek out sources that can aid you. For pickup, that’s our community.
Most of the guys in the community, in my experience, are great guys.
Find someone in your area and sit down for coffee with them, or do a
little pickup. Hang out, eat pizza, shoot pool. Learn from each other.Correct mistakes and improve.
***Those are my five first things. At any time, if you go back and pick
one of those and work actively on improving it, you will improve your
life and, consequently, your ability to pick up members of the opposite
sex. If you feel boxed in or overloaded with too much material, you can
work on one of these five. These alone can improve your life, and base
proficiency are required in all five of these skills to truly succeed
in this endeavor… and to be happy in all of your life.Anyone can grasp these concepts. Anyone can apply them successfully.
Work on them and your life will improve, as will results in skill-based
endeavors.Best of luck to all of you, my comrades and brethren. Be well.
Good stuff. I would add to this: Make a real commitment to succeeding, and believe you can do it!
A lot of guys don’t prepare themselves for success and don’t believe it can be possible. But it can! You just need to make a commitment to yourself to succeed and achieve your goals, and not be daunted by obstacles or setbacks.
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