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Apparently the rumors of Vince Runza’s death/incarceration have been greatly exagerated.  The old time seducer has resurfaced with a new post about where your focus needs to be for becoming successful with women.

Vince Runza writes:
To the Group:
Guys come here to learn how to seduce women, right? But, for each guy, that means something different. For some, it means getting that one, special girl – which will get him two or three good smacks in the head from the guys here. For others, it’s hooking up with elite women in very competitive venues. Then, there are the guys who just want to overcome a lifetime of virginity. In fact, there are as many reasons as there are guys.

I applaud any and all reasons which are good for both parties in a seduction. If you’re a cad (or a psycho), alas! This stuff will work for you, too. Some of the things that work for nice seduction will also enable the twisted. There’s a point to this: once you know what you’re trying to accomplish, the tools to do so are here.

Therefore, you must decide exactly what you want. Since there are different means (strategies, tactics and techniques), the ones you choose must be congruent with who you are. If you are low-key, only interested in hooking up and don’t want a LTR, check out Gunwitch Method. If you’re an ‘edge junkie’ with a reasonable amount of success, perhaps MM or RSD will enhance your game. If you’re a nerd/geek, perhaps SS.

Mind you, I’m not endorsing any one method or another. I’m simply pointing out that you can’t do things arbitrarily – dress up like a rock star, spout pattern language, do magic tricks, etc. with no eye toward results. You start with where you are now and progress toward where you want to be. Let me emphasize – it’s where YOU want to be in the future, not where other guys want to be – or where they want YOU to be.

It’s really a two step process: get your head screwed on straight and realize it’s YOUR reality. Step one is really hard. Knowing what you truly value takes a serious, intense search of yourself. That can be painful. It can also be elusive – what you really want today may be very different six months from now. Once you do know exactly what you want, step two happens naturally. The whole world begins to revolve around YOUR reality, because you are totally congruent with what you value. Actually, the whole world goes on exactly as before – you simply don’t get in the way of it giving you everything you want.

That is mastery.

Vince

Nice to see ol’ Runzi back in action.  =)

Assuming Value Vs. Building It

Cameron Teone has a pretty interesting article about the difference between trying to build your value with a girl, and just assuming that value is already there.

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Neil Strauss Break-Up Rumors

Okay, there’s been a lot of hub-bub about a story in the gossip rag Sunday Mirror about Lisa Levridge breaking up with Neil Strauss to date musician Robbie Williams.  You can find the story here.  There are also a few mASF threads on the topic here and here.

I got a lot of emails from you guys over the weekend concerning this story, so I went right to the source.  Since I know both Neil and Lisa, I decided to contact them and see what was up, especially since you can trust the Sunday Mirror about as much as you can trust Page 6, which is wrong about 90% of the time.

I was told there was no truth to the item, and that you shouldn’t believe everything you read in the gossip rags.  And Lisa confirmed this.

So there you go.  That’s all I know on the subject.

Workshop Reviews Site

After all the hub-bub of RSD scams going on, someone has stepped up and started a site where people can post their own reviews of workshops.  I guess you can say this is kind-of like a PUA Consumer Reports site.  Here’s the details:

Mike writes:
Dear Thundercat,

The past few days have been really eye opening. Reading your blog has made me realize that there is alot of shady shit going on in the bootcamp/workshop industry.

Your posts of late have inspired me to start a new website, where people in the community can go to share reviews and get educated on what’s really going on.

Currently, there are about 15 reviews, collected with the permission of people who have taken workshops. There is a form where guys can submit reviews, which will be moderated by me (i have no affiliation with any company), where I can make sure people arn’t spamming.

It’s my hope that if we can all contribute experiences, we will be able to avoid situations where people are this unhappy with their workshop experiences.

His site is seductionworkshopreviews.com.  Definitely worth checking out.

Tyler Durden Clones Busted?

A few days ago I posted about an interesting phenomenon going on here in Los Angeles with guys pretending to be Mystery in clubs in order to pick up chicks.

Well, now it seems it’s happening in New York too, but this time it’s not Mystery who’s being impersonated, it’s Tyler Durden.  And they’re apparently not even doing a very good job of it either.

The following is an email I got from a girl named Laura talking about her run-in with the PUAs/Tyler Cone.

Laura writes:
I just wanted to write because I’ve heard of this happening but never actually thought guys would be so hapless at a local, low-key bar. Wrongo!

I was out in the East Village tonight and there was a huge group of men aimlessly sarging. One approached two friends and me and said "I need an opinion on something." Unfortunately I’ve not only read The Game but wrote about it for a couple of relationship venues so I pointed out immediately that I knew what he was doing.

First he asked if is we’d date a guy in a wheelchair, which sort of tanked because one of my friends already did date a guy in a wheelchair and another of my friends dated the hot guy from Murderball so we were like "yeah." So he started playing the strawberry game with my other friend, but fucked it up by telling her it was her strawberry field and then asking what she’d say to the farmer she’d stolen from and she was like "But the strawberries were mine."

Then the wingman-god-knows-what came up and started delivering a routine about approaching some midgets on the street and insulting them which, instead of demonstrating value, demonstrated that he was rude to midgets and didn’t have a good punchline for his story. The awkward/obvious part was that in between, we interrupted to try to have a real conversation about what he was talking about, and he just totally froze, didn’t acknowledge anything, then dove back into his clearly-rehearsed script.

So here’s the best part: when wingman #2 came up to say "I heard someone over here is talking about sex," Mr. Strawberry hadn’t even gotten to the part where he’d analyzed the game and said it was about sex because he was doing such a dreadful job. So Mister Two said "Well I heard you said you’d read the game? I’m in that. I’m Tyler Durden. I’m here teaching these guys." Oh and he also proved his close friendship with Neil by revealing the top-secret insider information that Neil used to be a writer for "The Rolling Stone" magazine. Which, good cover, except he wasn’t Tyler Durden. At all. And I did what any girl would do OBviously and called Neil Strauss and asked him Tyler’s real first name which wasn’t the one on Mr. 2′s passport. The end.

Just FYI we would have talked to any of them if they’d feigned interest in us rather than painfully reciting memorized lines that made us feel like we were watching a showcase of dramatic readings at the local high school. Oh, and not said they were Tyler Durden, which is just retarded and weird.

Owch.

Either these guys are newbies who just took their first RSD seminar, or they’re a couple losers who went out right after reading The Game.  Either way, they’re going through their learning curve.  But for anyone out there interested, I will say this:

If you’re going to PRETEND to be someone, pretend to be someone rich, famous, or powerful instead of pretending to be a PUA.  Especially one named after a character in a well known book/movie like Fight Club.  You’ll get much farther in the long run.

Yet AnotherPoor Review Of Real Social Dynamics

Man, these reviews just keep coming in…

Boss Playa writes:

I am going to try and make this review of my experience of the Real
Social Dynamics workshop as unbiased as possible and let you decide
come to your own conclusions.

The instructors for this workshop were
Mike, Jlaix (Jeffy) and Christophe. The first night the instructors
told us it was going to be nothing but approaching. I wasn’t looking
forward to this considering that going into the workshop I had done
over a 1,000 approaches (which is over 20x more than any of the other
students). Since the workshop was held in my hometown Chicago I
suggested that we head off to a bar called the Apartment.

When we get
there Jlaix asked anyone if they want drinks and orders one for
himself. He makes me open a set which I do and afterward he says I did
really well so the rest of the workshop he’s pretty much off my back
about approaching except maybe 4 other times. The entire reason I took
this workshop was to see the instructors game, not to approach.

The
entire night I continue to pick Jlaix’s brain because I think he’s got
phenomenal game even though I haven’t seen him ever open a set and I
try to get him to approach the whole night. I eventually get Jlaix and
Christophe to open a set and I sit one foot away from them to listen.
From my perspective Jlaix’s girl looks into him for the first three
minutes or so and Christophe, for whatever reason, stops talking to his
girl. Soon after the girls go to the bathroom.

The set lasted about 5
minutes. At the end of the night we debriefed in a pizza place and Mike
was reading off of a card what we need to do better next time. That was
day 1. On day 2 the instructors stated that the goal was for the
students to use a routine stack. We went to the same bar, the
Apartment, and I once again was forced to do very little which was fine
by me as long as the instructors approached.

The only thing I had to do
this was reopen the same girl with the same opener about 4 times which
was no problem. Jlaix was testing my anxiety and persistence and
thought the girls might become more into me if I looked like I didn’t
give a fuck.

At one point in the night every student was with
Christophe and I realized no one had any idea where Jlaix or Mike were.
They had been gone at least half an hour. I asked Christophe where they
were and he didn’t know so he had the other students open sets while he
and I went out on a mission to find them. We went upstairs and found
them in a corner laughing with drinks in their hands and having a good
time.

Christophe started screaming at them and they replied that they
were opening sets for students. There were clearly no students around
them or even on the same floor as them and there were clearly no girls
near them. At the end of the night when we debriefed one of the
students flipped out that Mike and Jlaix were gone so long and Mike
replied that he was doing demos then the student yelled out “Bullshit!”
and they had nothing to say back.

These debriefs were all held in the
same pizza place which was a very public setting were people could hear
us talk about game. That night one guy who was not in the workshop and
was eating at the pizza place yelled out “I have a question” to Jlaix
and Jlaix responded “Yes, you’re fat”. The guy, who was about twice
Jlaix’s size, then charged at Jlaix and shoved him in the chair he was
sitting in so hard that Jlaix got knocked right into the wall and broke
the chair he was sitting in into 3 pieces.

The cops then came but Jlaix
didn’t press charges so it was a very short dispute. The past 2 days
the instructors had said that the third day would be all demos so I was
reallllllly looking forward to this day.

Before we headed out I
mentioned to Jlaix and Mike about how they were gone so long last night
and they claimed they couldn’t remember this. They didn’t deny it or
accept it. They claimed they just couldn’t remember. I assumed that
either they were lying or they had drinken too much last night or a
combination of both. When we arrived at the same bar the Apartment once
again for the third day in a row they told us that only the second half
of the third day would be demos.

Like the rest of the days, the other
students were pushed into sets and didn’t do anything else the first
half of this day. When we got there Mike saw that the college he
attends UCLA had a close football game on TV so he took some time out
to watch it and not pay any attention to the students. He was by
himself at the bar watching a football game.

During the second half of
the day Mike and Jlaix opened a set of girls and Mike soon told one the
girls that her head was shaped like a pear. She angrily went to the
bathroom and Mike grabbed her arm but she pushed it away.

Next set of
girls Mike and Jlaix talked to were 2 girls. I was right next to them
the whole time. Mike talked to his girl for a few minutes then she
started losing interest and turned the other direction. For whatever
reason the girls left 10 minutes into the conversation. Jlaix talked to
another girl for about 5 minutes and then she left. She ran to her
friends saying “ewww. That guy said he would do —– if I kissed him
so I left.” At the end of the night none of the instructors sets were
going that well. Jlaix ended up talking to a girl that was
approximately 5’5” and 250 lbs. All Christophe could say was “she’s not
sleeping in our room tonight”.

I took a cab ride back with two of the other students and both
students were saying how none of the instructors were that good. One of
the students said he didn’t think Christophe talked to any girls the
whole time he was there and the other student compared them to another
workshop company saying that the other workshop instructors didn’t go
for super hot chicks but at least they had some skill compared to the
RSD instructors.

So here is where I put in my opinion. I’d say the instructors skill
level was very low. I honestly have friends who on their worst nights
still do better than any of the instructors were doing which made me
very unsatified. Christophe goes in high energy on the girls he talks
to and never drops it which I thought was totally a beginner’s mistake.
I don’t think any of the instructors were good enough to be teaching
guys how to get women. Also, expect to take shit from the instructors.

They know that 99% of the guys who take these workshops are wimps and
don’t stand their ground so they take full advantage of this. On the
third night I really didn’t want to go to the Apartment bar for the
third night in a row because I wanted to go to a nice venue and see the
instructors talk to really hot women. On the third day Mike said we
could go someone nice if all the students agreed.

Well, all the
students agreed then Mike said how only the instructors know which
place is best for the students. The real reason the instructors wanted
to go the Apartment bar was because Mike and Jlaix wanted cheap drinks.
Every night they drank and Jlaix even mentioned to me about how cool it
was that they had $2 St. Pauly Girl beer.

Overall I think the students
got very little value out of the workshop. All most of them did was go
into set for a few minutes and then leave. Another things the
instructors do is say that they make barely any money off of these
workshops and that they just do it for the students which is completely
off.

The CEO Nick wears $800 D & G shoes from what I’ve heard and I
know someone else who saw the other CEO Tyler (Owen) with 4 full
shopping bags of clothes in his hands after shopping at Melrose in L.A.
which is extremely expensive. After the workshop I talked to Tyler
about the issues I had with the workshop and he said he was going to
call some of the students to verify it and get back to me but he never
did, even after I tried to contact him several times after.

Buyer Beware.

The Game — Follow Up

Well, it looks like sales for The Game is still going strong.  I’m happy to say that in the first week of release, it got as high as #9 on the amazon.com top 100 list, which is pretty amazing.  In fact, it even reached #1 on the UK version of amazon!

I spoke with Neil Strauss over the weekend, and he was immensely pleased with the outpouring of support the community has shown both him and his book.  He knew there would be a couple people who attacked him for what he wrote, but he never thought the response would be so overwhelmingly positive.  He asked me to thank you all for helping to make the book a success.

Neil will be travelling around doing book signings and other publicity for a while, so be sure to help him out by recommending the book to others.  Not only is it a great read, but it can also be a way to get friends of yours into the community.

If you’re in San Francisco, you can meet Neil Strauss tomorrow, September 14th, live and in person at one of his book signings.  Here’s the info:

Book Signing Info:
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DATE: Wednesday September 14, 2005
TIME: 7:30pm
LOCATION: Books Inc.
2251 Chestnut
San Francisco, CA
415-931-3633

The book signing here in LA was a blast, and I’m sure the one in San Fran will be awesome too.  If you’re lucky, maybe Neil will do what he did here and take everyone out to dinner afterwards!  You won’t have a better opportunity to meet one of the best in the game.

Book Review: The Game, by Neil Strauss

Okay, by now I’m sure you’re all curious about the book THE GAME, written by Neil Strauss (aka Style, the most powerful of the Jedi).

I received my advanced copy of the book over Labor Day weekend (since I’m in the book briefly, I was sent one early).  The first thing you notice about the book is that it’s not your typical hardback book as you’d expect.  The cover is actually thin, flexible, and black, the pages are all edged in gold, and there’s even a thin red cloth bookmark located in the spine.  In short, the book looks like the typical Gideon Bible you’d find in a hotel room.

And I must say, it’s quite appropriate.

Move over Lay Guide, so long eBooks, THE GAME is the new bible of the seduction community!

A few chapters into this book, I realized that this wasn’t going to be the “tell-all expose” we all were anticipating.  This is a book written by arguably one of the best seducers to ever come out of the community, and in it, he shares everything.

I mean EVERYTHING.

All his teachings, all his tactics, all his theories, all his strategies are all laid bare.

Through the course of the book, we start off by seeing Style go from your Average Frustrated Chump to a full blown Ladies Man, and as he documents his progress, it’s as if you’re right there learning along with him.  Because of this, I would go so far as to say that is book is a MUST OWN for anyone out there looking to improve with women.

This isn’t just a story.  This is a “how-to guide.”  A manual on how to pick up women from the best of the best.  Forget Cassanova, forget Don Juan, this is stuff that works now, in this day and age, and is applicable to modern women.  Not only that, but it’s all based on the tried and tested techniques of the seduction community.

Style pretty much lays out every form and method of teaching there is.  He gives you the full Mystery Method, he shows you Speed Seduction, he explains the Juggler Method, Double Your Dating, and David X style.  Pretty much every major school of thought is laid bare in here, which makes it a great all-encompassing reference manual for guys who want to know what teachings are available out there.

In the book, Style also shares posts from the private Mystery’s Lounge message board where some of the greats post their best stuff.  This is a good way for the average guy who isn’t privileged enough to be part of this private message board to see some of the advanced teachings and spastic ramblings that are shared there.

Then, Style shows you how he incorporates the best teachings from all his sources and created a system of pick-up that works for him.

This is, bar-none, one of the most complete guides on the subject of seduction I have ever seen.  In fact, I’d rate it up there along side Robert Greene’s classic “The Art Of Seduction.”

But the real treat of THE GAME isn’t just it’s wealth of pick-up knowledge.  No sir.  It’s the inside look you get at the personalities behind these teachings.

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Casanova Movie On The Way

I just found this interesting tid-bit about a new movie regarding the world famous seducer Casanova…

BEIJING, Sept. 5 — He was a libertine and intellectual, a seducer,
spy and seminarian, an adventurer and fugitive from justice. Now
Giacomo Casanova is also funny, self-sacrificing, writhing in the
throes of love and — because this is history Hollywood-style — a
character with a happy ending.

    The Australian actor Heath Ledger plays the insatiable
lover in big trouble in Lasse Hallstrom’s “Casanova,” a clever, often
madcap comedy that happily doesn’t let the real life facts of the 18th
century Venetian get in the way of a very funny story line.

    Ledger has been all over the screens at the Venice Film
Festival. Last Thursday, his performance as a homosexual cowboy
wrestling with his desires in Ang Lee’s “Brokeback Mountain” wowed
audiences.

    “The real Casanova was a man who had a true understanding
of women and had an uncanny ability to get into the minds of women,”
Hallstrom said at a news conference ahead of Saturday night’s premiere.
“And that’s what I wanted to keep about Casanova in this film.”

    Ledger said he did research his character — to a point.

    “I flipped through his journals and then it was (history)
out the window,” Ledger said. “We were making it into a romp. We wanted
to have a clean slate and just have fun.”

    For Hallstrom, whose credits include “Cider House Rules”
and “Chocolat,” making “Casanova” was a welcome chance to return to his
roots in TV comedy in Sweden.

    “The real Casanova is a wonderful idea for another movie,”
the director said. “He was such a multi-talented man — writer,
musician, priest, philosopher, scientist.”

    The actors’ accents range from proper English to something
close to thick New Yorker, but the illogic just blends into all the
snappy-paced, steady fun.

    What Hallstrom was intent on making authentic was Venice’s opulent yet earthy 18th century atmosphere.

    He succeeded, thanks in large measure to Venice, which
allowed the cast and crew access to just about everywhere they wanted,
from St. Mark’s Square to palaces never before opened for filming.

Notice that Casanova wasn’t JUST a seducer?  He had many interests and lived a full and exciting life.  Remember that going out to pick-up women is okay to a certain extent, but never let it defite who you are.

Lessons From The 40 Year Old Virgin

Recently I went to go see the movie "The 40 Year Old Virgin," and it is without a doubt one of the funniest movies I’ve ever seen.  The film focuses on a lovable guy who has pretty much given up on women, choosing to play with his toys and video games instead.  When his friends find out that he’s still a virgin at the age of 40, they start giving him advice on how to get a woman.

Even though the movie is a comedy, and some of the characters and situations are rather outlandish, there’s still some great messages at the heart of the movie.

The first of which is — IT’S NEVER TOO LATE.

No matter what has happened to you in the past, or what is going on in your life currently, it’s not too late for you to start meeting and dating women.

Seriously, some guys take themselves out of the game, or just simply give up when the going gets a bit tough.  Either because of the pain of rejection or fear of women, they choose to take the less painful road and keep to themselves, letting one opportunity after another with women pass them by.

But living a life devoid of love or intimacy is NOT a good thing!  People aren’t meant to be hermits, we’re social creatures and we have to interact with others.  Unless you’re a monk devoted to a life of celibacy, you’re going to want to have a good woman in your life.

That brings us to our second lesson — LEAVE YOUR COMFORT ZONE!

In "The 40 Year Old Virgin," opportunities with women did not start happening with the main character until he stopped doing what was comfortable for him and left his "comfort zone."

Usually, he’d spend his nights watching TV, either alone or with his elderly neighbors.  But when he started going out to places like bars, speed dating events, bookstores, and other places he didn’t normally go to, he began to learn some things about women.

The whole idea of moving out of your comfort zone isn’t to make you feel UNCOMFORTABLE, it’s about helping you to LEARN.  And it’s because you’re learning that you feel uncomfortable, due to the fact that you’re starting to do something new that’s never been part of your reality before.

Too often, we get used to doing certain things, living a certain way, and acting a certain way. 

It becomes routine. 

We become used to it, even if it’s not healthy!  And when we try to venture outside of it, we scurry back to our comfort zone because we don’t like doing things that are new and scary!

But how else are you going to learn what works for you if you don’t venture into the unknown?  How else are you going to learn about women if you don’t make the effort to interact with them?

You must be willing to stop doing what’s comfortable and take some risk.  You may fail a few times, but when you do succeed, it’ll be that much more satisfying.  And before you know it, what used to be scary and uncomfortable is now easy!

The third lesson from "The 40 Year Old Virgin" is — MEET WOMEN.

Some of the funniest scenes in this new movie is when the main character goes out with his friends to actually meet women.  But the message here is something I’ve been preaching on my website and in my newsletter for YEARS.

**If you don’t know how to meet women, you’ll never get one of them!**

Too often, guys will let one opportunity with women after another pass them by because they don’t know what to say or do to meet them.

Understand that women are THERE for you to meet!  They WANT you to meet them — in fact, they EXPECT you to meet them!  And if you don’t, then they think you’re just not interested in them.

Seriously, all the guys out there who know how to get lots of dates are the guys who walk up to women and start talking to them, display their personality and confidence, and then get the date.

If you don’t act like one of those guys, if you don’t approach women, then it’s the woman’s belief that you just aren’t that into them.

It can be a hard thing meeting women, and it can lead to embarrassing moments (as you’ll see in "The 40 Year Old Virgin" movie), but ultimately THIS is what will get you success!

But you can minimize the fear, embarrassment, and rejection you suffer if you know what to do and prepare yourself BEFORE you go out to meet tons of women.

In my book The Art Of Approaching Women, I lay it all out for you in clear, easy-to-understand language that will be your own personal guidebook in how to do everything you need to to find a great woman you can have wonderful experiences with.

I can teach you how to read a woman’s body language to see if she she’s interested in you.

I can teach you how to flirt with a woman to get her interested in you.

I can also teach you how to train yourself to meet any woman you want.

It’s all possible.  If you were to download my ebook and start reading it right now, by the time the weekend rolls around you’d be ready to go out and have some fun with lots of different girls.

You can get your copy of The Art Of Approaching Women now by clicking below:

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Before you know it, you’ll be one of the guys giving advice on how to meet women!

Wishing you success,

Thundercat

Game Publicity Fumbles

Looks like the Primetime Live special and Neil Strauss’s appearance on the View were both pre-empted for coverage of the crisis going on in Louisiana right now.  Hopefully they’ll air later on when things get better.

Casting The Movie: The Game

With the notion that Style’s upcoming tell-all book about the seduction community "The Game" as been optioned by Sony to be made into a movie, I thought it’d be fun to do throw out some casting ideas about what actors should portray certain people in the community.  So here is my dream list when it comes to the ultimate casting of the film.

Director:  Judd Apatow — The 40 Year Old Virgin
I gotta admit, I loved The 40 Year Old Virgin.  I think writer/director Judd Apatow really understands how guys think when it comes to women, and he could tell the story of The Game with a lot of honesty and heart.  Admittedly, this probably won’t happen, as the producers will undoubtedly get a woman to direct the feature as a way to deflect the criticism from all the fem-nazis about the movie being misogynistic.  But one can dream…

Style:  Cillian Murphey — Batman Begins, 28 Days Later
After seeing this guy in Batman Begins, I’m convinced he’s a really engaging actor who audiences can really love.  He really displayed a sense of intelligence and manipulation in that movie, while in others he can certainly show he has heart and feelings.  That’s why I think he’d be the perfect choice to play Style in the movie version.  He’s talented enough to make a character the audience could really like and enjoy.  Sure, he doesn’t look a thing like Style, but if you shave that guy’s head and have him say "Hey Man" at the beginning of every sentence, he’ll embody the character better than anyone else out there, guaranteed.

Mystery:  Johnny Depp — Pirates Of The Caribbean, lots of other stuff.
I might be going out on a limb here since any movie made based on The Game probably couldn’t afford Johnny Depp, but he has been known to "buck the system" before and take smaller roles in order to do quirky characters, and let’s face it, you don’t get quirkier than Mystery!  I think JD would take the time to research the character and do it right.  I can totally see him walking around in platform boots, fuzzy top hat, long black leather trenchcoat, goth make-up, and a wicked Canadian accent all the while talking about "Female Grouses" and "Backwards Merging."  In my mind, there is no better choice.

Tyler Durden:  Seth Green — Without a Paddle, The Italian Job
I’ve heard Tyler refer to himself many times as a Seth Green look alike, and he’s right!  Seth Green would totally be able to nail the character of Tyler Durden.  I mean, he’s short, like Tyler.  He’s got tall hair, like Tyler.  He can act really spastic, like Tyler.  He’s got a high-pitched squeaky voice, like Tyler.  In fact, he’s like Tyler in all respects, except in penis size, which Tyler claims we weighs in at 2 1/2 inches, so in that category Seth Green might have him beat.  But regardless of that, he’s the perfect choice!  You put this guy in a sk8ter boi jacket and some NuRock boots, and have him walk around asking everyone if they think David Bowie is hot, you’ve got the best Tyler impersonator this side of the globe.

Papa:  John Cho — Harold And Kumar Go To White Castle, American Pie
Who better to play a little asian guy than… a little asian guy!  John Cho is pretty much the only young asian actor I can think of who could nail the character of Papa.  I could see him walking around with Seth Green, trying to pick up women in his fast-talking lower-lip-biting style.  Of course, you have to have a Paris Hilton cameo just so you can see John approach her and strike out.  There also has to be a scene in the movie where John goes to his room and has ten "interns" sleeping on the floor doing all the slave labor for RSD.

Lisa:  Natalie Portman — Star Wars Prequels, ’nuff said.
Having met and hung out with Style’s girlfriend Lisa, I can tell she’d be a tough one to cast.  You need a real leading lady with a lot of wit, a good sense of humor, who’s also very pretty, all the while displaying that "I don’t give a fuck" rocker-chick attitude.  So after much thought, the only actress I could come up with is Natalie Portman.  I think she’s talented enough to display all those traits.  Plus, you factor the "She’s Darth Vader’s Girlfriend" coolness factor into the equation, you’ve got every wanna-be pick up artist loser’s fantasy rolled up into a nice, neat package for them to whack off to!  You can’t miss!  Though she probably would be too expensive to get for this movie, she has been known to do low budget fare before like she did in the film Garden State.

Juggler:  Owen Wilson — Wedding Crashers, Shanghai Noon
I can’t think of an actor who is better suited to the low-key, laid back style of Juggler than Owen Wilson.  He comes across as someone who’s really sweet and thoughtful, the kind of guy who takes life as it comes to him, so who better to play Juggler?  Not only that, but Owen Wilson would do a great job of showing the other side of the PUA spectrum, a great contrast to Johnny Depp’s Mystery.

David DeAngelo:  Pierce Brosnan — James Bond, 007
What better guy to embody Cocky/Funny than James Bond himself?  I could totally see Pierce Brosnan up on stage in some conference room, drawing on a flip chart with his black marker, and asking for "courtesy laughter" after every joke he says.  Throw a pair of glasses on the guy, he’ll even look like David DeAngelo!  But the best part of this is seeing his delivery of classic David D lines on women.  That alone would be worth the price of admission.

Some Random AFC:  Jon Heder — Napoleon Dynamite
Ever since I saw Napoleon Dynamite, I’ve been extremely impressed with Jon Heder.  I think he’s incredibly entertaining to watch, and personally, I can’t think of an actor better suited to play a typical AFC.  Can you imagine his character going to a workshop to learn how to pick up women?  He’d be the perfect guy!  We can see him going through his peacocking stage and all that fun stuff.  This would be the guy the audience gets to experience the teachings of all the pick-up gurus through.  He’ll be that guy who goes to every seminar and workshop.  Hopefully, by the end of the movie he’ll either have a girlfriend, or be selling his own ebook on some pick-up method he made up himself.

MINE’99:  Will Farrell — Anchorman, Old School
I think that there would be no one in the world who could better portray MINE’99 than the genius that is Will Farrell.  In my opinion, he could absolutely nail the attitude of an aging loser who makes his living off of trying to teach guys how to hypnotize women.  Can you imagine how funny it would be to see him running hypnotic patterns on women?  Or better yet, him trying to teach other guys how to run hypnotic patterns?  It would simply be too funny for words!  Not only that, but to watch Will Farrell flip out as MINE’99 does whenever someone calls him a fraud would be priceless.  I’m sure the add libs alone would make this movie one worth watching!  Of course, we have to have a scene where we see Will Farrel doing Yoga.

Thundercat:  The Rock — The Rundown, Walking Tall
Since I’ve always pictured myself as a half-black, half-Samoan pro wrestler-turned actor, I can’t think of anyone more appropriate to play me than The Rock.  Sure, I’m not really IN the book, but should I be deemed worthy to be in the movie, there should be a scene where the Rock sits down at his computer and writes up something true and ultimately disparaging about MINE’99 on his blog, so we can see the appropriate follow-up scene of Will Farrell melting down and calling The Rock nasty names and making fun of his dad.  Then at the end of the movie, the Rock can give Will Farrell the People’s Elbow during the credits. (hey, this is my dream list, I can cast who I want!!!)

Okay, so that’s my list.  What’s yours?  Share it in the comments.

Neil Strauss in his first 5-Some

Looks like publicity for The Game is really kicking into high gear.  Aside from the Primetime Live coverage on ABC, Neil will also be juggling the five ladies from The View this Friday morning.  Here’s the email I got from a guy named Infinity7 on the subject…

Infinity7 writes:
That’s right Thundy…..Style’s gonna be on the view this Friday morning.  Thursday night on Primetime ABC, then on the View the next morning.  SPREAD THE WORD!!!!!!!  STYLE’S GONNA BE ON THE FUCKIN VIEW!!!!!!  LOLOLOL!!!!!!!

Well, consider the word spread.  Here’s the details via the View’s website:

FRIDAY, SEPT. 2
Guests — Rachel Weisz (The Constant Gardener); Victoria Gotti (Growing Up Gotti);  Neil Strauss (author, The Game).

I don’t envy Style, going on that show with four women and Barbara Walters, not to mention the crowd full of housewives that’ll be there.  I’m sure they’ll put him through the ringer too.  But I bet if you watch, you’ll get to see Style sarge all of them.

(Style, if you can, try to bang Elisabeth Hasselbeck, she’s hot!  If not her, then definitely Star Jones!!!  She can be screaming "Yes I AM a laywer!" the whole time you’re doing it =)

Neil Strauss Interview

I got this email from a guy named Nick about a big article/interview with Niel Strauss (aka Style — the most powerful of the Jedi) in a Canadian mag called Macleans.

Nick writes:
Macleans a weekly Canadian news magazine published a 6 page article on Stlye’s book "The Game" entitles "Lady Killers, inside a secret network of scientifically trained seducers."

Article starts off with a little background on Style, moves on to how he met Mystery then goes into him getting into Ross Jefferies, David DeAngelos and Gunwitches stuff. Then it talks about some of the higher profile women he’s dealt with, then project hollywood and then onto a little closing bit about the book itself. You can read this portion on the magazines website (link below). There is also a little Q&A with style which isint in the published version of the magazine.

Read The Article Here

In the next few pages which i couldent find a copy of on the site their is a story about the reporter going out with Mystery to Standard Lounge in Toronto and watching Mystery pick up Scott Baios (Chachi on happy days) girlfriend, they then goto another bar and give the reporter a quick little lesson.

All in all a good article, if you want some scans of the magazine itself lemme know.

An interesting bit in the article is that Columbit/Tristar (aka Sony, the most powerful of the movie studios) have optioned the movie rights for the book.

Also, here’s a full Q&A the Maclean journalist did with Style…

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Mystery On “ASF Philosophy”

In my post called "Where ASF Philosophy Went Wrong," I talked about how I don’t agree with the Fake It ’till you Make It mentality.  Well, it seems the world’s most well known pick-up artist Mystery doesn’t agree!  He wrote a rather long and well-thought out counter argument which I thought deserved it’s own thread.

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