December Is TOP 10 Month!
December 3, 2007 by Thundercat
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Hey guys,
It’s the end of yet ANOTHER year, and you know what that means…
It means it’s time for another Top 10 List, ranking the best Pick-Up Artists of the year. And this year, I must say, I’m sure my list will stir up a lot of controversy. There will be a number of fresh faces and new names, so some of you may be really surprised at the rankings.
As always, leading up to the unveiling of the list over Christmas, we’ll be running a few contests here on the blog to celebrate another year of Pick Up and the PUAs who made it possible.
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I’m sure this year there will be a lot of discussion about it. This will be fun.
In the meantime, let’s post our personal ranking here based on their teachings and infield footage, etc.:
Here is mine:
1.Mehow
2.TD
3.Mystery
4.Tim
5.Matador
6.Vin DiCarlo
7.Swinggcat
8.Style
9.Juggler
10.Zan
Kosmo should be no.1 this year! LOL
1. Captain Jack [Seriously fat guy who lays hot women all of the fucking time, outshone TMM's master instructor Sinn]
2. Sinn [Unbelievable year]
3. Tim from RSD [This guy is out of this world]
=3. Jeffy jlaix [Perennial]
5.Future [TMM] [Some solid stuff]
6. Savoy [Gets the hot blondes]
7. Ozzie of RSD [His stuff seems to be nothing short of amazing]
8. DaHunter [Good looking guy, but very very tight game]
9. Mystery [Obligatory]
10. Alex RSD’s new instructor, [some solid contributions.]
Honourable mention TD… goes out to keep his skillz tight even though he has a live in girlfriend. His pick-up brain is still as sharp as ever. But alas, he has a gf.
Although I know you’re not going to put a single RSD guy in your pick list because you’re bitter towards them, even though their guys have been consistently delivering fantastic products, great articles, outstanding performances ‘in field’ and what can only be described as GOLD. All year.
So let me guess: Style number 1 again. Mystery Number 2 etc cetera. *yawn*.
It’s been easily RSD’s year.
1. Captain Jack [Seriously fat guy who lays hot women all of the fucking time, outshone TMM's master instructor Sinn]
2. Sinn [Unbelievable year]
3. Tim from RSD [This guy is out of this world]
=3. Jeffy jlaix [Perennial]
5.Future [TMM] [Some solid stuff]
6. Savoy [Gets the hot blondes]
7. Ozzie of RSD [His stuff seems to be nothing short of amazing]
8. DaHunter [Good looking guy, but very very tight game]
9. Mystery [Obligatory]
10. Alex RSD’s new instructor, [some solid contributions.]
Honourable mention TD… goes out to keep his skillz tight even though he has a live in girlfriend. His pick-up brain is still as sharp as ever. But alas, he has a gf.
Although I know you’re not going to put a single RSD guy in your pick list because you’re bitter towards them, even though their guys have been consistently delivering fantastic products, great articles, outstanding performances ‘in field’ and what can only be described as GOLD. All year.
So let me guess: Style number 1 again. Mystery Number 2 etc cetera. *yawn*.
It’s been easily RSD’s year.
Thank god for RSD! It’s the best under 18 website for learning pickup.
I think it’s time to move past all this.
All this does is contribute to men’s feelings of neediness.
By worshipping men who do well with women you are worshipping women.
There is more to life.
http://www.lifestylejourney.blogspot.com/
Hey Jakob,
Funny how you rail against buying seduction products and then you link your very lame blog to a 35 page ebook for $35!
LOL….what a fuckin joke.
Even on your blog you don’t have any useful advice.
Keep reading, you wannabe
You outright suggesting my blog is lame means I struck a chord with you, either because of denial or you really strongly disagree with what I have to say. I would bet it’s the former because of the way you condescended me, as well as wrongly assuming my ebook has anything to do with seduction (meaning you didn’t really read).
Hey Jakob you missed the third option, he may be suggesting your blog is lame, because it is?
I quickly looked at it, you didn’t hook me. Your writing is pretty longwinded and none of it seemed particuarly interesting.
Take this as constructive advice, so therefore don’t bother composing some prosaic reply, using leading questions which you undoubtedly think are genius but are really little more than assumptious conceits. Don’t bother accusing me of schadenfreude or whatever either. You’ll only serve to make yourself look more of a fool. So there you go you fucking pretentious cock.
Hahaha, as a regular poster on RSD’s website, and having been a regular poster on Fastseduction back in the day, I can say I’d actually rather read a bunch of posts from younger kids just getting into the game who are excited to learn as much as possible, than the tired, worn out, jaded guys I read on MASF any more.
I agree that it’s been RSD’s year, by far.
No other group out there seems to be pushing the envelope and constantly evolving the way these guys are.
You are an asshole if you do not mention this is RSD’s year.
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Los Angeles, December 6, 2007.
All levels of PUA were in the audience, from ex-pro instructors to guys who’d never even read The Game.
At the end of the seminar, the whole room gave him a standing ovation the likes of which I have never witnessed.
Instead of the testimonials being delivered by a small core of devoted fans, half the audience lined up around the room to speak in reverent awe at the power of what they had witnessed.
You see, on one level, the Blueprint is a guide to pickup which is extremely engaging and highly useful on a practical level.
But to call this simply a rock-solid seminar that successfully fuses insight and gripping speech is really doing it a disservice.
This seminar is a beacon. It’s one of those monumental experiences you’ll never forget, and the benchmark against which seduction products for years to come will, and indeed must, be measured.
This isn’t merely an evolution of the seduction community, but a wake-up call to the industry at large.
Read this, and you’ll see why you should demand something more from gurus and seduction companies, more than all those derivative, overhyped products forced down our throats year after year with only minor tweaks in their formulas.
It’s a shining example of how it’s possible to bring together all elements of writing, insight and pragatism and succeed to the wildest degree.
Tyler hasn’t just delivered something that’s very useful, a criterion so often cited as the benchmark of what makes a seduction seminar worthwhile.
What he has done is to fuse together a dizzying number of strands of thought, creating a clear and devastating unity of purpose from the white noise of pickup theory, psychology and philosophy (both Eastern and Western).
Furthermore, he has honed the delivery of this material into something so undeniably potent that I do not believe it is possible for someone to watch this seminar and remain unchanged.
I simply do not think that such a thing is possible.
It is often said that a book can help “regardless of your skill level”. This seminar actually delivers on that promise in an unprecedented way.
Expert PUAs from the inception of the seduction community as well as greenback newbies who’ve never spoken to a woman before will find this work a goldmine of life-altering brilliance.
In fact, as I watched it I began to realise that what Tyler has done here extend far, far beyond the boundaries of the seduction community.
This is, as several people independently said to me afterward, quite simply the most blisteringly powerful self-help work I have ever seen.
It is as if Tyler combines the passion and drive of Tony Robbins with the philosophical brilliance of Eckhart Tolle.
Where Tolle’s epiphanies are quiet and subdued, Durden’s are visceral and raw.
Where Tony Robbins’ energy is massive but scattered, Tyler’s is like a laser-beam of coruscating potency, slashing through insecurity and fear like a chainsaw through silk.
The Blueprint stands as a monolithic example of the convergence of arresting delivery and an irresistibly brilliant intellectual core.
It encompasses a bewlidering host of multifaceted elements, but is never confused or confusing.
This is an essential viewing experience, a shining display of compassion, passion and humanity, and an incredible insight into the mind of one of the finest men I have ever met.
A must have product for anyone even incidentally interested in self improvement, and a milestone for the community at large.
Indeed, I would argue, a milestone for the world at large.
I take my hat off to the man.
^ Quote from Ciaran.
It has been a beautiful year for the community because of Tyler and RSD!!!
Hey “guest”, are you Tyler or his gay lover? That was one of the most absurdly over-wrought pieces of gratuitous praise I’ve ever read.
“Hey “guest”, are you Tyler or his gay lover? That was one of the most absurdly over-wrought pieces of gratuitous praise I’ve ever read.”
You are a deucedly boorish contemptible harpy and a naive, stench-emitting mass of existential impotence. GTFO.
And as Jeffy would say, “Your mom’s an absurdly over-wrought piece of gratuitous shit.”
“Hey “guest”, are you Tyler or his gay lover? That was one of the most absurdly over-wrought pieces of gratuitous praise I’ve ever read.”
Smell that? It’s the smell of desperation and fear. Whatever trash PUA you study, has no significant impact on RSD or the community.
Dumbass.
Oh, you might enjoy taking a bootcamp with the magician and painting each other’s nails black, along with 12 other guys. If that isn’t gay, then I don’t know what is.
OH I JUST LOVE IT WHEN JEFFY CALLED HIM OUT ON THE JEFFY SHOW.
Fucking hilarious.
It was easily Mehow’s year. RSD WISHES they had Mehow’s game and videos.
Is Mehow the one Sinn from TMM challenged to a pick up challenge last year because he was claiming to be a guru when he only got one lay in the whole year?
http://sinnsofattraction.blogspot.com/2007/01/mehow.html
I don’t know who’s uglier, Mehow or Ross Jeffries?
There was going to be a challenge Mehow vs Sinn, but in the end Sinn backed out and that fell apart.
There will be the challenge Hypnotica vs Mehow early next year though, which I think will be taped. Can’t wait to see Hypnotica in field.
I loved Mehow’s infield footage and it is highly educational because he comments exactly what he is doing and what is happening second after second.
I saw Mind of Mystery’s infield footage last week in my friend’s place and I didn’t like it much, not to say that the game showed by Matador and Mystery wasn’t as good as it could be.
I don’t know if Mehow is the best out there or not, but his game is awesome and he should be ranked very high this year.
I love RSD’s stuff and their ideas are amazing for inner game and attitude, but are RSD guys actually as good in field as their fans claim them to be?
I once saw one of their instructors in London and he didn’t impress me at all. He was acting like one of those bold, out of control naturals who goes up and starts grinding with some 7s from behind. I see the value in adopting those beliefs etc, but on top of that “I don’t give a shit nimbus of glory” attitude you should actually learn some calibration and play the game with intelligence to actually be consistent getting the real hotties.
“I love RSD’s stuff and their ideas are amazing for inner game and attitude, but are RSD guys actually as good in field as their fans claim them to be?
I once saw one of their instructors in London and he didn’t impress me at all. He was acting like one of those bold, out of control naturals who goes up and starts grinding with some 7s from behind. I see the value in adopting those beliefs etc, but on top of that “I don’t give a shit nimbus of glory” attitude you should actually learn some calibration and play the game with intelligence to actually be consistent getting the real hotties.”
When you describe “I don’t give a shit” does that mean to you that you can do outrageous things, like set the bar on fire?
No, that’s not what RSD teaches. When RSD says for you to not give a shit, it means you know your core values and you act on them, and that anything external does not affect you. You have a Code of Conduct and you do it. You get your validation from within aka as Nimbus of Glory. That is called Core Confidence, the most stable of all kinds of confidence.
Of course it’s going to take calibration obviously, but in the end, the focus is on entertaining yourself (getting slotted into the Sexworthy category, not fucking entertainer/intriguing/dancing-monkey like Mystery).
I love RSD. They completely separated themselves from every other PUA and created a new category called “Sexworthy.”
What every other scrub PUA have in common, which is like 98% of the PUA community is that they’re constantly at the mercy of women. The moment they identify themselves as a PUA, is the moment they lose power. And what they’re all doing is dancing-monkey, entertainer, value-taking shit. It’s disgusting.
RSD is above that.
Want proof? Read the BC reports that pop every weekend. RSD DOES BOOTCAMP EVERY FUCKING WEEKEND, and they’ve been doing so for over 4 years now. That’s teaching and doing, and results in twice the learning.
Do you know who Manwhore is? Do you know who Pimpski is? TWO of many people from RSD Nation THAT ARE ABOVE MYSTERY’s LEAGUE. It’s a fucking huge gap. Proof that what RSD teaches works.
Have you seen Foundations (which is the simple groundwork that RSD people know/follow)? Transformations? The Jeffy Show? And the new BLUEPRINT (OMFG this is gold)? Jesus Christ.
It’s obvious through their subcommunications that they’re above everyone. Tim, Ozzie, Alex, Jeffy, Tyler, all amazing people.
“When you describe “I don’t give a shit does that mean to you that you can do outrageous things, like set the bar on fire?
No, that’s not what RSD teaches. When RSD says for you to not give a shit, it means you know your core values and you act on them, and that anything external does not affect you. You have a Code of Conduct and you do it. You get your validation from within aka as Nimbus of Glory. That is called Core Confidence, the most stable of all kinds of confidence.”
No, of course I’m not saying that. And I think internalizing those believes the way you descibed them is crucial.
“Of course it’s going to take calibration obviously, but in the end, the focus is on entertaining yourself (getting slotted into the Sexworthy category, not fucking entertainer/intriguing/dancing-monkey like Mystery).”
Believe me, Mystery is not a dancing monkey nor is he an entertainer. Btw I don’t know if you RSD guys know it, but Mystery (and specially Lovedrop) also teaches all the inner stuff Tyler teaches. They call them “yin and yang” attributes and teach you how to combine that with outer game.
Also, you guys think Mystery & co. spend endlessly entertaining people. Do you guys know how much time they actually spend in “attraction”?? 2-5 minutes AT MOST, Mehow never more than 3. I yet have to see an RSD escalate as fast as Matador can.
And they also teach you how to” give value” and keep a “self-amusement” frame, just like TD teaches. The only difference is that they give more structure to it and break it down more analitically. That’s the ONLY difference really.
“I love RSD. They completely separated themselves from every other PUA and created a new category called “Sexworthy.”
Of course you HAVE to have the “sexworthy” concept down. But do you think Mystery or Matador doesn’t think he is sexworthy?? These guys have probably even more “delusional confidence” than any RSD guy.
“What every other scrub PUA have in common, which is like 98% of the PUA community is that they’re constantly at the mercy of women. The moment they identify themselves as a PUA, is the moment they lose power. And what they’re all doing is dancing-monkey, entertainer, value-taking shit. It’s disgusting.”
That is exactly what TD,Papa,etc. were in the past. Their inner game was shit so they relied 100% on bullshit lines and routines.
But just because TD came from that place it doesn’t have to be that way for everyone else. Did you know that 90% of MM or VA instructors don’t even use routines?? Again, RSD isn’t teaching something all that different, just less structured.
“Do you know who Manwhore is? Do you know who Pimpski is? TWO of many people from RSD Nation THAT ARE ABOVE MYSTERY’s LEAGUE. It’s a fucking huge gap. Proof that what RSD teaches works.”
LOL. Do you honestly believe Manwhore or Pimpski have more game than Mystery? Think again. Mystey is like 10x better than any of these guys.
Look, the absolutely most important thing in PU is having the right SUBCOMMUNICATIONS. That is why Mystery or Mehow even teach routines. So you can get the subcoms FAST and then throw away the routines if you want, because at that point, when you have the subcommunications, routines don’t matter any more. EVERYBODY agrees on that.
The only thing that is worth debating is if for a newbie taking a bootcamp it is best to give him routines first to get the subcoms (this is the way every RSD guy learned subcoms, btw) or to teach him heavy inner game and attitudes a la what RSD is teaching newbies now? What gets you there faster? But in the end you get to the SAME place.
“Have you seen Foundations (which is the simple groundwork that RSD people know/follow)? Transformations? The Jeffy Show? And the new BLUEPRINT (OMFG this is gold)? Jesus Christ.”
I have seen Foundations, Transformations and the Jeffy show and it is amazing stuff.
I also read TD’s blog regularly.
I even read the Blueprint months ago. It wasn’t the final version, but I’m sure most ideas were already there. I will still buy the final version of the book along with the DVD set for sure.
“It’s obvious through their subcommunications that they’re above everyone. Tim, Ozzie, Alex, Jeffy, Tyler, all amazing people.”
Sure they are. And is I said, subcommunications is everything.
But don’t let yourself get fooled and think RSD is the end and be all. Their stuff is great, but if you don’t learn from other sources as well, you are shooting yourself in the foot BIGTIME.
I’m sure RSD stuff is enough to allow a guy to stop being a chode, gain confidence and get a hot girlfriend. In that sense it is simple and it is enough for what MOST people want.
But if you want to take your skills to the highest levels, some outer games taught by other companies are crucial.
It all depends on what you want. But if you really think that ANY RSD guy to be even half as good in the field as guys like Mehow,Sinn,Mystery or Matador you are very mistaken.
What are your thoughts on this? Let’s keep the debate constructive.
Mehow PUA of the year…. ROTFLHAO !!!!!!!
Isn’t Mehow Liberace gay ??????
I am a big fan of Tyler, and also thought that Tim and Hoobie in particular had great things to say in Transformations. Looking forward to Blueprint products.
However, RSD products are a “sausage fest” in that they don’t have any ladies participating in their products. No infield footage either. Sometimes the vibe in Transformations borders on “Magnolia”.
Industry leading-edge is infield audio and video, as well as women in seminars. There is a place for guy-only format, but maybe after Blueprint it’s time to move on.
“I am a big fan of Tyler, and also thought that Tim and Hoobie in particular had great things to say in Transformations. Looking forward to Blueprint products.
However, RSD products are a “sausage fest” in that they don’t have any ladies participating in their products. No infield footage either. Sometimes the vibe in Transformations borders on “Magnolia”.
Industry leading-edge is infield audio and video, as well as women in seminars. There is a place for guy-only format, but maybe after Blueprint it’s time to move on.”
What are you? Fucking homophobic? Why the hell would you need infield footage when you can take a BC? Have you seen the footage of Ozzie humping the girls on the Jeffy Show – it was more worthwhile than the footage provided by the magician on his trash product. Watching “in-field footage” as opposed to taking a bootcamp would be the same difference between masturbating to pornography and actually having sexual intercourse with a woman.
Besides, they have the cheapest deal on BC, that is no excuse on not to take one.
And Roxanne (lol girl) participates in BCs. And since she’s a member of the RSD Crew, that makes her even more lethal than any other female instructor.
http://www.rsdnation.com/showthread.php?t=10060
Manwhore & the RSD Crew
- Is not an entertainer, he only entertains himself.
- I know Manwhore, Ozzie and Jeffy can close faster than anyone outside of RSD. They’re mantra: “Just close motherfucker!” The fact that she’s standing there is enough of an IOI for them. And because they’re not bound to any rules. They’re flexible and they’ve broken the rules that Mystery set up.
- Are offering value. They be the party, plow through, no outcome dependence, claw, and close.
- No lines, no techniques, just their personality on the line. Pure and fresh. Simple and easy. They are “REAL.”
- Manwhore says, “I want to see my cock in your mouth.” Constant SSP.
- Never said RSD is the end all, be all. Their mantra: “Follow those who seek the truth, run from those who claim they’ve found it.” But damn, I have to say the Blueprint will be a revolution. “Believe the hype, bitches.” – Jeffy.
Mystery & others.
- Not an entertainer you say? Magicians aren’t entertainers? Going out on public and demanding the world to know that he is the world’s best pick-up artist, is not being an entertainer? And what’s that, a TV show? He’s a god-damn dancing-monkey. Yeah, I mean pumping out 2 grand worth of trash/thrown together at the last minute vs. $250 of quality material/took weeks to construct so that it would last forever. Yeah, thank god Tyler turned down to the PUA Show (which is fact btw) so we can watch more dancing monkey Mystery.
- Needs to follow his вЂOoo, I must wait 3-7 hours before we have sex” rule and many signs of IOIs.
- Are trying to take value. Trying for a reaction. Because they label themselves as PUA, they are CONSTANTLY AT THE MERCY OF WOMEN because of their identity. They use a fishing line, while RSD uses a fucking net.
- You might say they don’t use they’re routines, but that says nothing when they still teaching using and exchanging lines, even reaching the point of being inauthentic. It’s a coverup and too magic-pillish.
- Mystery says, “Did you see the fight outside?” Oh wait, I must execute plan B, with a side step, plan D with a hand routine, TR tonality. Damn, why can’t I enjoy an interaction, oh wait it’s because I’m too inside my head to not realize everything I need is at the NOW, and HER.
- Are constantly telling everyone they’re the real deal. World’s greatest pick-up artist, anyone?
-Ozzie’s “act” shouldn’t be even considered infield footage. Every drunk guy in the venue can do that. The girls actually turn their backs to him because he was creeping them out.
-Every master PUA out there (including Mystery) has the “It’s always on” frame.
-90% of advanced guys doing MM or similar don’t use ANY routines. Jlaix (according to Jeffy show) may very well be using more routines than any other MM instructor.
-Mystery doesn’t think AT ALL in field. He has everything “internalized”, just like TD has. No good PUA can be in his head, or reaction-seeking.
-RSD WHISHES they had a show
-You shouldn’t be slave to rules, they are meant to be broken. Just use them as something to fall back on when necessary. Mystery breaks his own rules all the time.
-If it wasn’t for Mystery, TD would be selling hamburgers in Toronto.
Look, RSD’s stuff is great. BUT don’t think they have discovered nothing new.
Check out stuff from Juggler,Zan,Tony Robbins and E.Tolle.
Everything they say has been there FOR YEARS!!
Mystery’s show was 100% staged and fake…everybody knows that… the ONLY kiss close in the entire show was with a hired STRIPPER …LOL!!!!!!!!!!
Get real guys… mystery is a magician … his game is BASED in illusions,faking and trickery(his show is based in illutions.. from the viewer’s point that is) .. do you realise that since his method is based 100% in misconceptions and fantastic tales .. wha t do you think his approaching materials and shows and videos are based on
…
His is a magisian .. fake it good until you profit from it… think about it
Now I get it!
RSDNation = Nation full of GUYS.
Can you imagine that? A nation with guys ONLY, worshipping Tyler’s “Sausage of Glory”.
Imagine all of them in line ass-fucking each other!
Now I know what Ozzie means with “running the train”.
Wow. I just discovered that Juggler has a new blog:
http://www.wayneelise.com
AWESOME!!!
Good addition to the blogs I read already:
Tyler, Mehow, Sinn
(Oh yeah, and this one if I am too bored:) )
I’m the best pua.
and my big co%k is the 2nd and 3rd
4th is my magic right hand.
Sorry Mystery, maybe next year….
Jakob, you likely won’t read this, but I agreed with everything written on your blog. Your writing style could use a little polishing, yes, but your thoughts are intelligable and those which I most agree with out of anyone in this community.
The point where you made me frustrated is when you linked to a product you were selling. That makes you no different to any other David DeCreepalo loser. Thanks for killing my hope there was one decent guy who was associated with the whole “seduction” thing.
Hey Bitches,
It’s your pal, DylerTurden (the long lost cousin of TylerDurden).
Let’s get a few facts straight:
Mystery = Original
TylerDurden = Not Original
Me = Combination
I roll up on the girl peacocked like a motherfucka in a Bruce Willis movie.
I do stuff like make funny faces.
That is my TD inspired game.
My Mystery inspired game: I paint my toe nails and wear sandals exclusively. I even go as far as wearing sandy brown socks with toe cut outs so the HB22′s I am talking to can see my scrumptious feet (w. painted toe nails).
RSD is kinda like…. a Backstreet Boys fan group.
You read on their forums, and there are these dumb teenagers talking about nimbus and positivity.
Half of these kids couldn’t even get a 4.0 kill/death ratio in Counter Strike Source; so what the fuck do they know?
Guys like myself, Tyler and Mystery all share something in common:
We are good at gaming women… as well as gaming noobs in dust_2.
Talk to you guys later, it’s time to pull a MMMF threesome (with my two lookalike friends… SkylerDurden and TylerNurden).
Captain Jack #1 for doing better than Sinn? Unless you’re talking about getting same night lays with warpigs in estrus using NLP, it’s really not that hard to do better than Sinn. In terms of quality, he is usually pathetic in-field. Even his fellow TMM instructors say he goes after warpigs, and Sinn even publicly admits on his blog that he doesn’t generally go after the hotter girls. And he’s a young, good-looking former bodybuilding champion. His bootcamps are so shitty that sometimes more than half his students don’t show up for the second night in-field.
Savoy pretends to be gay. And, behind his back, Sinn says that Savoy is only as good as he is because he’s 6 foot 5.
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