RSD is afraid of little ol’ me!
April 19, 2006 by Thundercat
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Wow, those RSD guys must have been pissing themselves. I JUST GOT a ceast and desist letter from their attourney. It was a total pile of BS.
You gotta love lawyers. They make simple Cease and Desist claims sound like your last rite.
Here’s the thing, why would anyone who had nothing to hide need a cease and decist? After all, these are RSD’s own words! Why would they be ashamed to have them in the public eye?
Maybe because… they’re UNETHICAL? They show IMMORAL TACTICS?
Anyway, I’m gonna comply with this sucker and take the offending documents offline. So you won’t be able to get them here any more. And since I was doing a public service and not profiting off this stuff, they don’t have a legal leg to stand on here.
BUT, this is what people do when they get scared they’re going to be revealed. They run to their lawyers and try to bully others into not speaking out. They hide behind the LAW so they can keep being unethical.
Let everyone know, that in my unprofessional opinion, that RSD knows what they do to students, but wants to keep everyone else from knowing about it.
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great video mystery!
“Uber” writes:
“Mystery that video kicks ass.”
The Reverend’s or Herbal’s?
“Ray Gordon – you’re a deluded old man who steals his way out of every situation by threatening with legal action.”
Just like guys you assault “steal” their way out of situations by calling the cops on you? People like to violate my rights, and I like to defend them, as any *real man* would.
“You’re the kid that NOBODY liked in school – ”
Figures someone with this idiot’s level of maturity would cite something so juvenile, both literally (school) and figuratively (his argument ad populum).
“I mean for gods sakes your personality is so abrasive and disgusting. How could any woman want you? I’m being serious…”
Oh yeah, women want those NICE, SWEET GUYS!!!
Funny how Mystery threatening a Reverend with a KNIFE isn’t abrasive, nor is his threatening to throw Herbal through plate glass. Perhaps “Uber” is biased? We already know he’s a coward who can’t even sign his name to his postings.
How do women want me? Read my 1998-1999 books: things like PIVOTs, ONE-AND-DONE (you guys call it “nexting”), gimmicks and lifestyle (some call that “identity” and back in the day this was thought to be unnecessary in lieu of all the “powerful canned material”), reverse timetables, returning foxes, etc.
This asswipe is like many men who either ask questions that I answer in my books (in other posts if this were a regular board, he’d reveal his cluelessness), or use my methods, then try to act like they don’t.
Remember when online AMOGing was considered the ultimate DLV? I guess that’s only when it’s not directed at someone who doesn’t have an affiliate program.
“This thread has actually cemented previously wavering ideas about you.”
Well, if you don’t want any NEW THEORY that would have you fucking 9s and 10s, you’ll sure show me by not using it!!!! I hear some people in the third world rejected a cure for malaria because they didn’t like the doc too!
(If no one stole my theory before, it shouldn’t matter that I’m not releasing the new stuff in protest of shit like this).
“Who the hell will buy from you after seeing what you’ve talked about here? Go pivot a dog or something.”
Aww, someone doesn’t like me. I’m so crushed!!
By the way, YOUR opinion is one thing, but when you start acting like you talk for ANYONE BUT YOU, you’re getting into commercial disparagement, which is legally actionable.
Of course, if someone doesn’t have ideas or logical arguments against something, I guess these pathetic AMOGing attempts are all they have left.
Well, if you don’t want any NEW THEORY that would have you fucking 9s and 10s, you’ll sure show me by not using it!!!! I hear some people in the third world rejected a cure for malaria because they didn’t like the doc too!
(If no one stole my theory before, it shouldn’t matter that I’m not releasing the new stuff in protest of shit like this).
Good, no one wants your NEW crap, peddle it somewhere else. Maybe a nuthouse.
By the way, YOUR opinion is one thing, but when you start acting like you talk for ANYONE BUT YOU, you’re getting into commercial disparagement, which is legally actionable.
Blow it out you ass, pussy. I think everyone in the seduction community knows your are an idiot and loser….deal with it. Go file another kook suit. One day the courts will stop you from filing slapp suits….LOSER.
From Mystery:
“And what if “I” win ray? You agree to never post in seduction related sites again – and you agree to allow the video of your failure to be posted online whether you succeed or not (as I agree to).”
I said it had to be done with media coverage, not either one of us having the crew. As for me not posting, much as I understand how Mystery hates to have flaws in his game pointed out, he’ll just have to deal with me speaking my mind. I just bring out the beta in him, it seems.
Free speech and competition too much for him? Does Mr. “Take on all comers” have a condition like that for anyone else? Why no, he doesn’t.
“If you do post online and we say FUCK OFF RAY, you will, and that will be that seeing as most people dont appreciate how you’ve derailed this thread yet again.”
Poor Mystery, thinks he speaks for anyone but him, and he’s committing the argumentum ad populum fallacy. By his own stated standards (money, testimonials, media and women), John Gray would come out ahead of him, btw.
“that’s what I want for winning.”
So much for the thrill of victory.
“If you win, I will also give you MONEY. Ill give you 5 to 1 odds. You win $500 from me and I only $100 from you. I want Ray Gordon to DISAPPEAR from the community portal boards.”
So as to reduce dissent and competition? Too bad for him he can’t make that happen.
“I look forward to meeting you. When are you free for this? and Im awaiting your video.”
If I ever make a video it’ll be sold as high-quality porn.
Note also that Mysery isn’t risking HIS participation in these boards at all….maybe he lacks the BALLS to stake that? Cute money odds too: 5,000-1 or 50,000-1 would more accurately reflect his opinion of his chances, of course. Or, perhaps he thinks I have a *****ONE IN SIX ***** chance of winning (his mouth says it’s certain but his money says 5-1 LOL).
Just to show what a MOUTH this pathetic TODDLER is, let’s see him explain what would happen if his girlfriend decided to fuck me (consensually, of course).
That’s right: NOTHING. Absolutely, positively nothing.
Now THERE is a challenge: get one of his women — the one he REALLY wants (at the time, anyway) — to fuck me, and then watch the little man throw his temper tantrum afterwards, realizing that I’m one guy he can’t even threaten, let alone actually DO anything to, since he’s what they call “all mouth” or what I call “just not much of a man.”
You see, real men don’t threaten Reverends with knives, they don’t threaten to throw their roommates through plate glass, and they don’t threaten suicide because “life is too expensive.”
Has any of Mystery’s girlfriends ever considered what his violent tendencies put them at higher risk for, according to the experts? Smart women tend to avoid violent men.
Dude, stop rambling and accept the challenge or get the fuck off the bored.
Now you’re being a coward and a panzy.
Accept for cryin out loud.
The challenge is there.
It’s in your favor.
You claim to be a seductionist, well fucking SEDUCE.
Someone challenges me, and tells me they will come to MY VENUE and win lose or draw you bet your ASS I will be there for the Sport of it, for what I can learn, for the challenge, because I like to seduce women, the list goes on and on.
Instead of addressing the issue to keep changing the subject. Quit being a coward and STOP CHANGING THE SUBJECT.
Are you IN OR OUT?
Thats all anyone wants to hear from you at this point.
If you’re OUT, WALK AWAY! GIVE UP THIS COMMUNITY if you AREN’T WILLING TO STAND UP FOR IT.
Jeese dude, it’s simple. “I’m Ray Gordon and I hereby accept! Let’s get this challenge underway! I can’t wait to kick Mystery’s ass and show the World that I am for real!!”
OR
“I’m Ray Gordon and I am an angry Fraud who types flames and rants on various message boards across the intranet, inbetween cleaning the leftover pizza sauce off my keyboard. I have such a shitty life I will go on various boards and blatently lie about my skills as a seductionist which amount to nothing more than ranting and raving on various message boards. I have put forth a false challenge and am afraid to accept the terms even though they are clearly in my favor. Every time I continue to rant and rave it is simply an admission of my dishonesty and anger. I am a fake. Please pay attention to me with your hate since that is better than nothing.”
Dude, I am not a Mystery fan, and to tell you the truth I could care less about taking sides for any reason. You are acting like a jackass and a coward if you don’t stop with the Subject Redirection and ACCEPT THIS CHALLENGE!
Now I am done working at my computer for the day. When I come back here tonight to see what happened on “Flamewars” I expect that you will NOT have written one of your BS posts and that you WILL have accepted this contest. (or of couse you can just drop it and disappear.)
Otherwise people will start flaming you and making you a joke on this board. Sue whom you will, you got no case but a nut.
“you’re getting into commercial disparagement, which is legally actionable.”
God this is so pathetic.
No answer on the challenge uh ? Thought so.
I guess some newbies didn’t know about you yet. Now they do. Keep digging that hole, Ray.
>>>>…since he’s what they call “all mouth” or what I call “just not much of a man.
Posted by: Ray Gordon | Apr 27, 2006 10:32:24 AM”
“To know others is to know oneself.”
Ancient Chinese Proverb.
RG dodging the subject, as awlays.
Mys, I think you may be wasting your time with this one…
J
Ray and Stephane are just as deluded as each other.
Before Mystery should even meet up with “Ray Gordon” Ray should have to prove himself. Like a boxer has to prove himself before facing the champ.
Ray has to atleast provide video… but he CANT… why? because he has an STD, don’t you Ray. He uses it as an excuse for not getting laid at all. Isn’t that right Ray.
Don’t be bitter because you’re not getting laid. When was the last time you DID get laid Ray?
Don’t be shy now.
Now THERE is a challenge: get one of his women — the one he REALLY wants (at the time, anyway) — to fuck me,
Guys look at the above…get her. Laughing, see Ray has to have other people talk women into fucking him…this is a riot.
RAy has NO game.
Poor Mystery, thinks he speaks for anyone but him,
Uh…yeah he speaks for everyone here…read the threads idiot, no one is on your silly ass side…idiot.
If I ever make a video it’ll be sold as high-quality porn.
Laughing would that be you jacking off or fucking your mother?
All I see is you attacking Mystery, nothing of you trying to work out a challenge…same ole same ole….little man.
I’m willing to bet that any quality girl would throw up in your presence.
You are so disgusting….LOSER.
You see, real men don’t threaten Reverends with knives, they don’t threaten to throw their roommates through plate glass, and they don’t threaten suicide because “life is too expensive.”
Ray Gordon has threatened children women and others, I can post him saying it here.
Ray has also threatened more than one to kill himself on ASF back when no one would accept the crap he puts out…Ray you are such a damn lier.
I have to repost this (from earlier in the thread). I mean it has to be read to be believed. This is Ray’s “Game”. Alternatively, he can also use a chessboard in the strip club. LMAO
Ray Gordon wrote :
“I already run anti-Mystery strip club game, and will be happy to show other guys how to do this, because the more guys who do this, the better it is for *all* of us.
Example:
Stripper approaches me. I don’t budge. Three or four attempts later I acknowledge her existence. It goes something like this:
HER: “Hey, sexy!”
ME:
HER: No, I meant you!
ME: “Um, I think you mean HIM, don’t you?”
HER:
ME: “No, you and Ben won’t be hooking up, so get that out of your head.”
HER: “Awww, well do you have a tip for me?”
ME: “Why the fuck should I tip you?”
HER: “What the fuck?”
ME: “Serious, why the fuck should I tip you? Every get-laid website on the net says that guys who get laid by strippers they meet in clubs are the ones who don’t tip and don’t stay long.”
HER: “That’s bullshit, they’re lying.”
ME: “They’ve done this ON CAMERA, and sometimes the strippers change sides to work for them, and then they tell the whole truth. Now you see the problem: If I’m more likely to fuck you by not tipping you, why the fuck should I tip you?”
HER: “I’m telling you those guys are lying. We don’t fuck customers. There are rules against it.”
ME: “There are rules against doing coke in the bathroom too, but that doesn’t seem to stop anything.”
HER: “What the fuck? I’m telling you guys can’t get laid in strip clubs. They’re lying. They’re just losers who jerk off”
BLAH BLAH BLAH
Then I pull out a copy of “The Game,” and ask her if the author of a bestselling book with dozens of proven conquests on his belt, often in front of media witnesses, is also lying. (there are some pages that reference stripper “plucks” from the club).
ME: “If I want rejection, I can get that for free. Why the fuck should I tip you?”
HER: “Why the fuck do you come here then?”
ME: “If you hadn’t noticed, I don’t usually come here. Last time I was here was six months ago. I came in to get a few drinks and get out. You probably won’t see me again in here all year. But I *used to* spend some money in here. Not a fortune, but I didn’t mind dropping $30-40 in a visit, a few times a month. (this can be any amount you want, obviously). Now I find out I’m just paying for guys like this to get laid. You don’t have to fuck me if you don’t want, but don’t expect me to pay for the ride with another customer. I still tip the bartender and buy a few drinks so I’m sure they don’t mind me being here, but if I’m wrong, it’s not like I’d miss this place. Maybe you should chase out all the customers you aren’t fucking and get your money from the ones you are.”
HER: “Why are you so mean?”
ME: “I’m not mean, I just don’t need to pay to be rejected, and if you’re fucking Mystery, you’re rejecting me, and frankly I don’t think you have much taste in men.”
HER: “You’re just bitter because he can have me and you can’t.”
ME: “So you admit it! Well, I think you should turn to him for money next time. I’ll be out of here after I finish this drink.”
I HAVEN’T READ ANYTHING THAT *LAME* IN YEARS. I’M DIZZY RIGHT NOW. YEAH I’M SURE YOU ARE FUCKING COUNTLESS STRIPPERS WITH THIS METHOD RAY. AHAHAHAHA. UN-FUCKING-BE-LIEVABLE.
Would someone PLEASE, PLEASE post a link or
something where I can take a look at RAY
GORDON’s book? The book he wrote that
people supposedly stole from.
AHHHH. Mystery, WHAT THE FUCK??? Those chicks are NOT hot, and you are a DORK. I’m sooo disappointed. What have I associated myself with? I feel so dirty. STOP SHOWING PEOPLE THAT VIDEO, I’m embarassed for you.
LOL…My thoughts exactly. Those chicks are pretty terrible. Maybe the 1st one, with a few beers, would be OK…
You can find Rays’ site on google. Within it are links to his various products. Outfoxing the foxes isn’t a bad piece actually.
Ray – why do you keep citing events from Mystery’s past and try using them against him? The man has taken you up on the challenge.
Using legal and literary termanology which the majority of the board are not going to understand is not going to do you any favours. You don’t need to act like a fool either.
You are arguing that individuals and groups have formed “cartels” or basically are stopping you from reaching the customers that you deserve?
Well this blog is full of potential customers but just look what you’re doing? You’re so caught up in others’ minor to non-existent faults that it is just rubbing off poorly on you.
I am immature – that is correct. I am probably the youngest person to actually every read this blog on a regular basis but that by no means de-values my opinion(s).
Why don’t you just stop this little jihad of yours and just accept the challenge – if you win then people will find out. If he wins then people will find out. It’s fair. Your chance to prove yourself to the masses – after all, you did give up your job to seduce women (and/or post on internet blogs).
Regards
Uber is absolutely right.
Simple truth of sales and marketing is, if wanna sell a product and competition got you down, you BUILD A BETTER PRODUCT.
Lashing out wastes everyone’s time. Just like all other boards you’ve posted on, you already alienated this one.
One of, if not THE most successful businesspeople in this community, Devid DeAngelo, never posts here or elsewhere publicly. And he is respected by most in the community, throws regular seminars and has several products he is successfully selling.
Anyone see a pattern here?
If you want to flame, be noticed by some people with too much free time, have the glory of trying to make a point on an internet messageboard – which I believe is what you really want, carry on.
If you actually, as you clame, want exposure and real product sales – build a better product, a better website, and quit being a bitter and aggressive individual.
But people dont really change, so of course you won’t. You’ll probably just dismiss this post as a “rivan co supporter”.
Feel free to do so, but for the record I’m not associated with any pickup school and have never purchased a seduction product.
J
I wonder how many strip clubs Ray has been tossed out of using the above crap?
One wonders as well the quality of the strip clubs he goes too….wonder if they are truck stops?
>ray im ready for our 15 set challenge. 5 sets for you, 5 for me, and 5 silly sets where YOU go into the set FIRST and then I try to recover and any I cant you try again (or was it you want ME to go in first and then you disrupt my set 10 minutes in – although Id prefer 25 to tell her about you before you come in – only for the cams will i tolerate your presence in my set – just being SEEN with you and accepting your reality DLVs me but Im a good sport).
Pay attention folks, this is your so called genius. He can’t even comprehend a bit of text that I’ve repeated myself on more than three times now.
I’ll say it one more time. Try to pay attention. There is a stripper at the bar. I go in first. I work her as far as I can, be it a number, a kiss, or sex. Once I am done with her(the set) then it’s your turn. You go in, work her as far as you can, be it number, kiss, sex. You don’t even have to tell her you are affiliated with me. The one who does the best is the winner and we do this for five different sets. This way we’ll see really has the better game, because when we are doing five different sets, it’s possible you could just get lucky and stumble upon a slut, while my sets could be composed of complete bitches.
By the way Mystery, you avoid this issue over and over again. You are only capable of pulling sluts. I have never, ever, ever, seen you pull a genuine classy girl. A girl with a sense of self respect. An upscale girl with values. A girl who chooses to be with a gentleman (you don’t fit in this category Mystery). Why the masses pay you thousands to learn how to pull sluts is beyond me. They will go home with you regardless of what you say.
HEY GORDON… TELL EVERYONE ABOUT YOUR STD.
and here’s a little poem:
STOP HIDING RAY.
MYSTERY ACCEPTED AND NOW YOU RUN AWAY.
YOU DON’T NEED TO HIDE IN SHAME.
BUT WHEN YOU LOSE YOU HAVE NO SAY.
WHY ALL THE EXCUSES WHEN YOU THINK YOU HAVE GAME?
YOU CAN’T KEEP SAYING YOUR STD IS TO BLAME.
STOP HIDING RAY.
IT WILL ALL BE OKAY.
NO ONE WANTS YOU HERE FOR YET ANOTHER DAY.
SO STOP HIDING RAY.
YOU’RE EXCUSES ARE LAME.
YOU ALSO WANT TO TRY AND TAINT MYSTERY’S PLAY?
THERE’S NO NEED FOR YOU TO BE AFRAID POOR RAY.
BUT THAT’S THE WAY IT IS WHEN YOU’RE NOT GETTING LAID.
SO AS I’VE JUST SAID IT WILL ALL BE OKAY.
WE ALREADY KNOW THAT YOU’RE GAYER THAN GAY.
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Ray is pussing out. He’s trying to hide behind technicalities, but really he’s just pussing out.
Dude the 15 set thing INCLUDES YOUR WAY. It also give you more of a chance to close 5 extra sets. The odds are in your favor.
Stop being a pussy. You are losing Everyones support by being a loudmouthed pussy. Step up and Step in. The rules can’t be just your way because theres 2 in this contest. If you win your way you still get 0 – Z E R O – credibility due to the fact that you set all these restrictive rules.
Be Smart. Be a Man. Stop being a pussy.
I’ll say it one more time. Try to pay attention. There is a stripper at the bar. I go in first. I work her as far as I can, be it a number, a kiss, or sex. Once I am done with her(the set) then it’s your turn. You go in, work her as far as you can, be it number, kiss, sex. You don’t even have to tell her you are affiliated with me. The one who does the best is the winner and we do this for five different sets. This way we’ll see really has the better game, because when we are doing five different sets, it’s possible you could just get lucky and stumble upon a slut, while my sets could be composed of complete bitches.
The only way I would agree to the above is if everyone wears a mike. Ray wants to go first just to cockblock…that crazy anti-player crap of his. Anti-player, hes lost his mind.
By the way Mystery, you avoid this issue over and over again. You are only capable of pulling sluts. I have never, ever, ever, seen you pull a genuine classy girl. A girl with a sense of self respect. An upscale girl with values. A girl who chooses to be with a gentleman (you don’t fit in this category Mystery). Why the masses pay you thousands to learn how to pull sluts is beyond me. They will go home with you regardless of what you say.
You are such a loser. Ray NO ONE has EVER seen you even speak to a girl. I still don’t think you could pull a hooker.
What would a clssy girl be interested in you?
You call yourself a gentleman?…wishing death on children , saying there was no bad loss of life on 911….you need fucking help you idiot!
Mystery, this asshole has no intention of showing up, hes trying to put you in a position where he can claim victory by default….hes done this shit over and over and over. The man has NO game, never has never will.
Hello Ray.
The only one who keeps running away is YOU Ray. You forget that it’s possible YOU could get lucky and run into a so called “slut” or that Mystery could get so called “bitches”. The concept that 5 different sets would be full of “bitches” is so far removed from the reality of the situation, it’s quite clear you don’t go out a lot.
Here’s how it SHOULD be, since you think you have game. 10 sets each.
1)5sets – Mystery goes in first, Ray Follows.
2)5sets – Ray goes in first, Mystery Follows.
3)5sets – Mystery only.
4)5sets – Ray only.
Now why are you afraid of something like THAT Ray? What’s your excuse this time?
You only want idea #2 for 5 sets? Then let me put this into simple terms for you:
What are YOU afraid of?
It looks like this will go nowhere as Mystery accepts challenge after challenge and Ray just keeps making excuses.
Here’s how it SHOULD be, since you think you have game. 10 sets each.
1)5sets – Mystery goes in first, Ray Follows.
2)5sets – Ray goes in first, Mystery Follows.
3)5sets – Mystery only.
4)5sets – Ray only.
Now why are you afraid of something like THAT Ray? What’s your excuse this time?
You only want idea #2 for 5 sets? Then let me put this into simple terms for you:
What are YOU afraid of?
Heres the deal. Hes doing this way because he knows Mystery or any sane person will not accept.
Ray will not show, he knows he has no game.
He knows he can’t win. He has done this same thing to other gurus.
The only thing he can do is go first and fuck it up for Mystery. Because HE HAS NO IDEA HOW TO PU!!!!!!!!!!! All he is after is the hope someone might take him serious and buy a book.He cares for nothing else.HE is a CON MAN, and a shitty one at that.
This thread should be closed, it will go NO WHERE.
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There really should only be 10 sets…where they both try to game the same girls.
1)5sets – Mystery goes in first, Ray Follows.
We get to see Mystery Method at it’s best.
2)5sets – Ray goes in first, Mystery Follows.
We get to see Ray’s Method at it’s best.
It’s got to be a contest where we see how both guys game works ON THE SAME GIRLS.
Either way, put up or shut up. Let’s get this shit on the road. Don’t bail out now…EITHER OF YOU.
SuperHero G
Saved By a SuperHero
Do you guys think Style’s “the most powerful of the Jedi,” or is it Mystery? And who is Ray in the Star Wars galaxy?
Jesus it is hard to take this site serious.
Why don’t you have people register here like other deacent websites. Everybody is incoqnito or fakes in here.
>Now why are you afraid of something like THAT Ray? What’s your excuse this time?
You only want idea #2 for 5 sets? Then let me put this into simple terms for you:
What are YOU afraid of?
What are YOU afraid of Mystery? When you go in after me, it will be a fresh set. I will be done with it and you don’t have to tell the girl that you know me. You will open her like she’s a total stranger and we’ll see if you can do better with her than I did. What’s so HARD about that Mystery? If you’re going to be a big baby about this we can do it both ways but at the end of the challenge please make sure you note “I was a whiny little baby that couldn’t handle Ray’s terms so I through in my own. I had to make sure the challenge was favored for me to win.”
Whenever you want to do this I’m here waiting Mystery.
^^ Ray writes this message while masturbating, fantasizing about what it would be like to talk to women in real life.
Lando Calrissean:
i think ray is that robot in either episode two or three who says ” you fool” and then pulls out and uses 4 light sabers at once.
“When you go in after me, it will be a fresh set.”
You mean, after you spent an hour cockblocking Mystery ? Fresh, uh ?
“I was a whiny little baby that couldn’t handle Ray’s terms so I through in my own.”
You’ve gotta be fucking kidding dude. YOU are THE ONE who is whining here and calling for unreasonable conditions IN YOUR FAVOR. Do you seriously think you are fooling anyone ?
Neil Strauss on Norwegian TV tomorrow. Norwegian talk show. Nice. Fun to watch I suppose.
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One thing I have to give to Ray… He has the strongest reality of anyone I’ve met. The WHOLE COMMUNITY thinks he’s a nut, but it doesn’t faze him at all.
It’s obvious that RG intends to put unreasonable restrictions on his challenge until M finally gives up and stops replying. Then he can claim that M backed down and not RG. I would really like to see what RG’s new excuse would be if M just accepted his challenge hands down, on whatever terms RG wants. I’d bet everything I own that RG just coughs up another crappy excuse, about STDs, or how M has to pay his cover to get in or some other dumb shit.
In any event, this will never end satisfactorily. RG won’t let it, he’s crazy. The only way to get this retard off the thread is for Thundercat to start moderating. Or for God’s sake, at least require people to register.
Ray, I deal with people like you everyday at work, and it makes me sick to have to come here and read your shit too. If I could meet you someday I’d kick you in the nuts for making me sort through your vomit looking for real posts.
Look guys, to everyone that’s upset about mystery and style selling-out: don’t be so concerned about the movie or publicity. If you get ‘it’, it doesn’t matter whether or not some routines become cliche. Survival of the most adaptable has been the name of the game from day 1. Plus, since when did a great movie come from a not-exactly-best-selling book. I love the book, I think it’s very well written. But I’m a member of this community and that’s why I have such an appreciation. The general public hasn’t really snapped up with responsiveness about the book, and that isn’t promising when talking about a movie coming from it – from a box-office standpoint. Whatever.
Who the fuck would take a copy of ‘The Game’, bookmarked at the relvant sections, into a strip club? That’s the craziest shit I’ve ever read. Ray, put the crackpipe down and hand yourself into the nearest police station.
I already know what the next excuse is gonna be : “the camera crew, who are they, I want to pick them, I’m not a fool, they will be Mystery’s friends, they will manipulate footage to make me look bad, to be completely fair we should fly in a team of unbiased cameramen from Japan at Mystery’s expense”, etc, etc.
All very reasonable, Ray-style requests. Whatever to make sure the meeting doesn’t happen and he is not exposed as the pathetic fraud he is.
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HAHAHAHA, that David D. post is hilarious. Jesus I’ve seen so many of his marketing messages like that. LAWLZ
no skirting the issue ray. all this thread has now lead to you saying NO. excuses.
1. lets meet up. WHERE AND WHEN?
2. lets actually SEE YOU PICKUP a girl. in a competition with a known PUA. each have 5 entire attempts at “getting the girl”. that way we can compare RESULTS.
3. Ill ALSO indulge in your completely illogical 5 set “leech game” just so you dont back out.
4. money is on the line – my $500 to your $100.
5. ill cover the cameras no worries.
do we have a challenge ray? is there anything (without huge postings of why you WONT do it) I can clarify?
And WHY in the WORLD would it be logical for me to be SEEN with you in a strip club, nevermind having to game the girl WHILE I PLAY CHESS with you? If we each do 5 sets (and a PUA is NOT worth his salt if he cant simply approach a set and GET THE GIRL. can you GET THE GIRL ray? because thats what we really want to see. why must you complicate this and make so many excuses.
no excuses from me: I want to meet you. I want to see you pickup A girl, ANY GIRL. I want you see ME pickup a girl – a HOT GIRL of course – actually I want you see me pickup 5 girls in 5 approaches. no lurking chess players (I dont play chess in strip clubs but if you want to do that for your approaches then cool).
PLEASE RAY, dont excuse yourself out of this one. Im willing to FLY in for an entire WEEKEND to game with you. to challenge you to a PICKUP MATCH, AND I additionally agree to allow you 5 MORE SETS to do things your silly way – some sort of DEBATE on pickup with a chess board where you need to leech a guru’s social status (have him in the room to secretly point to and snicker at). Im AGREEING with your terms, why in the world would you not want to SHOW people your skills by agreeing with mine?
I do 5 sets. see how I do.
you do 5 sets. see how you do.
we do your 5 silly sets together, for fun – and to see what you are trying to get out of doing that *shrug*
so when do we meet? no excuses, just a place and a time so we can figure out the simple technical details of meeting up.
Hell Ill put things ASIDE for this. If you’d like, Ill ALSO cover your flight and hotel for 2 nights to the city of our agreed on choice (name your top 5 suggestions) but dude, if I buy you a flight, fucking get ON the flight and dont waste my money. all I ask is you do 5 sets to show the cameras how you roll (cause you certainly have never rolled with ME before so THAT cant possibly be your GAME), and Ill do 5 sets. the man with the higher number of lays gets to choose how many of the additonal 5 leech sets they get to open first. In fact, despite the wins, Ill allow you to CHOOSE THIS YOURSELF. you can open those 5 sets first or not, its your call entirely. fair?
15 sets, 5 of them YOUR WAY – you get to go first or not with your 5 leech game sets – and this leech game may in fact tip the scales of this in your favor if you cant get more girls than me in a normal 5 sets each match, free flight and hotel, free video, permission to post all video good and bad online for free, plus 5 to 1 odds $ wise.
Is there anything you are disagreeing to or may I already book our flights? where to ray.
look ray Im going to do my 5 sets in a row anyways for the cameras. Im asking that you do 5 too. In fact, here’s a deal:
1. I do 5 sets (where you see me look at the camera and say, “Im going in now” and end when I get blown out or bounce (ill even get footage in deep game to prove where Im at with the girl).
3. you do 5 sets and these 5 can be your 5 leech sets.
at the end of these, we add up who got laid more – winner (and its pretty fucking easy to see who’s better by how many girls he got and how objectively hot they were – the judges? the community – you may assist in choosing the judges – the more the better. and the camera men will be guys YOU PICK – although youll need to pick from anyone who would like to volunteer as the camera work is going to have to be covert (unless you want to work out a thing with the strip club owner).
the judges of the video we present I would like to nominate:
top 10 PUAs on Thundercat’s list.
if you have a problem with that, then choose 5 of them and then choose 5 more people (so long as I agree to them). if you’d like to allow a woman to watch the video and decide who’s got game and who doesnt we can set that up to.
Wow, now I understand why Ray was banned so many times.
This guy is absolutely nuts. I have been reading him blab on for about an hour today and litterally loving it.
How crazy is it that he never answers questions directly?
This guy has managed to skirt any question that would put him on the spot.
For example, why hasn’t ANYBODY seen him in the field?
Why should we believe he has picked up anybody?
Why does he keep holding on to the term ‘pivot’ like the name actually matters? I would prefer wingwoman instead of pivot. He did NOT come up with the concept, merely the name.
Why does he insist on crashing mystery’s sets and refuse to allow the mystery to crash his sets?
The list continues . . .
I would suggest to Ray that he consider checking himself in somewhere. Seriously, I am actually concerned about this guy. People like this should not be on the loose in our society.
I really am not one to flame (because it is completely DLV), but this is coming from my heart.
And if Mystery is smart, he will stop posting on here. Ray doesn’t wish to prove anything at this point, only to get under the skin of Mystery. He is simply an angry person. I found it extremely hard to sarge when I am feeling negative, how does this guy sarge at all . . . that’s right . . . he is a fraud. Everything accomplishment he has ever made does not have a single eye-witness. He never did any of it. He is a lonely KJ.
Given his connection with Chess, doesn’t he remind you all of Bobby Fisher. That guy is a lunatic and makes less sense than Ray (if that is possible). There must be a neurological condition which makes one excel at calculated games like chess, but at the same time it makes one absolutely off their rocker.
As much as I love the Ray/Mystery pepsi challeng, I would like to direct a little of this PUA drama back to RSD’s legal challenge.
Have you noticed how long its been since TC has piped up or started a new thread on here? Do you guys think maybe Jlaix has taken him out in the woods and put a bullet in the back of his head?
Yo Mystery, I’m the guy that’s been attacking most of the anti-mystery stuff on here. However, what you’re showing right now is true leadership and Ray Gordon ( who I’ve defended…i love the under dogs) is a coward. Good stuff, I’ve always known u were the best PUA in the community ( now mainstream) but a lot of ppl confused ur little friend style as being the “guy” who as our oprah body shaped friend named thunder the male booty hunter likes to put it as the “jedi”…in reality, the ppl who’ve been here for a long time know how good your game is and lets face it Style isn’t as good as you ( all the game readers just got their heart broken)….what’s worse is u had to take “style” as being the main man for a while cuz the guy helped you out as a friend with some financial issues in your life and in return u gave him a NY times top ten Best selling book and probably the top 5th best PUA in the game as we speak. Big ups on that And I love your WTF videos and I think u should post more of them, it really shows the human side of you and it only makes anti Mystery like me, respect you more.
Ray Gordon, i had your back but now ur a sissy. Stop blaming your terminal Democratic of republic STD as the reason why u wont meet him up. Face it, if u got game then u would just shut your yap and take his offer right now.
I lost a lot of respect for you. Even though u haven’t met yet, Mystery one the contest long before u even started. He became ( I’m gonna kick my self for saying this once my high comes down) a “tribal leader”…..yea sure Mystery is a sell out and yea sure his method will be a house hold name soon. But who cares, you’re a coward. He is PAYING for your airplane tickets and taking TIME out of his business to meet you. You’re just disgusting low life with the Ebola virus coming out of your typing fingers…u little dusty toothless whore. Stop posting on here and go post safe sex with your new jersey italians.
Cool vids.
The only problem was that these girls were not very hott. I didnt feel katya was too hott either..
C’mon man show us some real tens that you have SLEPT with, not these 6/7s.
P.S where are your WTF episodes 1,2, and 3?
Mystery I fucking LUV you duude!
Well if Style, is the most powerful of the jedi, Mystery is obviously Han Solo, smart talking ladies man. Well with mystery as Han what does that make ray? Either A) Jabba, a repulsive bulbous mound of flesh that has to tie girls up to keep them. But then again Jabba had a posse so it can’t be Jabba, so Ray’s obviously greedo. And Much like Greedo, Ray’s going to get slaughtered(figuritivly, don’t sue me Ray) by Han, aka Mystery.
Ok now Mystery made a really fair challenge. Ray Gordon you will have to accept this after all this rambling. I mean common, the community wants to see the videos. How cool would that be, Mystery opening 5 sets and (hopefully) !-closing them all. At least we get to see his game. I’m sure it is going to be alot of fun for Mystery and you, too.
So please accept the challenge Mystery made.
Oh and Mystery, I like the Videos you already posted, it shows that you are a cool guy. Didn’t you say that there was also a Video where we can see you work a stripper? The Video was shown on Discovery Channel you said. Is there a link for this? What Episode was it?
I appreciate the efforts you’ve made to place Ray in the Star
Wars galaxy, “who is ray.” Indeed, Ray may well be Greedo, a green, spiky guy with pursed lips, who gets blown out in seconds — with a blaster. However, I’d like to make a broader point:
No one in the whole fucking galaxy can touch my PUA skills. Not Han, Not Greedo, Not Jabba. Not Luke or any fucking Jedi (who by the way, take a vow of celibacy… how’s that working for you Style, “the most powerful of the Jedi” haha, appropriate) And certainly not Mystery or Ray. I am in a class by myself. I am the ultimate Mack-Mack-Mack of the galaxy.
Earlier in this thread I issued a challenge. A challenge to Mystery or anyone else who wants to accept it. Its simple. A sarge-off. You can wear whatever peacock shit you want to adorn yourself with. All I need is a brown bag with a Colt 45 Six pack — one for me, five for the stone-cold foxes I’ll be pullin’. With my game, you might be one of the bitches I pull. I think that’s why my challenge has gone ignored.
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