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The Game Remains the Same

March 6, 2006 by  
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In his latest newsletter, Style drops some great nuggets of pick-up wisdom in response to the latest Village Voice article about women wising up to PUA tactics after the release of "The Game."  You can read the full newsletter from Style in this post, but if you want to recieve his updates reguarly, join his mailing list by clicking here.



I was talking to a writer who was working on a now-controversial story in this week’s Village Voice about The Game. Part of it had to do with a blogger named Dolly who had read the book and caught a pickup artist using the lines in a bar. Later that night, she made out with him nonetheless.

So it made me think: I’ve received hundreds of emails from guys fretting that if the book or the community get too well-known, the game won’t work anymore.

So I did some thinking about that.

First of all, everyone knows how to diet, but not everyone does it.  Most of the people who read about these ideas and techniques won’t actually put them into action. (Instead, they’ll procrastinate by writing letters worrying about too many people finding out about the techniques.)

The fact is, the game will always work. It’s just that some of the wording to the scripts may have to change — and that’s only for those who use the scripts for "training."

For example:

What’s one of the most clichГ© pickup lines in the world?

The corniest, cheesiest one?

That’s right: It’s "What’s your sign?"

If you walk up to a girl and say, "What’s your sign?" she’ll know you’re delivering a rehearsed pickup line from some bad 70′s TV show.

But guess what? "What’s Your Sign" is almost exactly like the openers and DHVs (demonstrations of higher value) in The Game.

There was a point when "What’s your sign" was not a corny way to start a conversation. It was a non-sexual opener: a means of breaking the ice with strangers without hitting on them. It was a current topic, exciting and interesting. (As Mystery once put it, the best subjects for conversations are relationships and the unknown.) Furthermore, it was a way of demonstrating value. Instead of saying "let’s ball" (or whatever the lingo was at the time), you were showing that you were spiritual and had interesting knowledge to offer.

In the parlance of the seduction community, it was a neutral entertaining opener with DHV spikes built in.

And, sure, we all know it’s outdated and cheesy. But isn’t it extraordinary how a few minutes into seventy percent of all conversations with women, a discussion of astrology ensues? She’ll probably ask you, "What sign are you?" And if you know a lot about astrology, it’s actually a demonstration of higher value.

(Note to logical, empirical, factual men: Don’t say, "I don’t believe in that bullshit." Cynicism and negativity are two traits to avoid when meeting a woman, even if you think they make you seem "cool.")

When I was researching the book, I spent hours in Miami with a PUA named Maddash, who gave me a long tutorial on astrology. He taught me what all the signs meant, what the twelve houses were all about, how to identify astrological trends in people’s lives, and how to determine sign compatibility.

Whether or not I believed in astrology was immaterial: I now knew a lot about it. And it made for great conversation, connection, and value when I was meeting people.

So the epiphany I had was: "What’s your sign" STILL WORKS. It will always work.

Everything will always work. If people find out about it, all you have to do is change the way you say it and perhaps when you say it.

For example, if saying, "Hey guys, I need a quick opinion on something" telegraphs that you’re delivering a pickup line because the women read about it in a magazine, no worries. Just change it to: "I need some quick help settling a debate." If opinion openers don’t work anymore, save the question for later in the conversation. I already have three other types of openers I’ve come up with that I’m waiting for the right time to release. And if I can come up with alternatives, I’ve got a feeling YOU can too.

In the bigger picture, the thing that’s important to remember is:  There is no such thing as a pickup line. The language and wording don’t matter. What’s important is the intent behind them. The Jealous Girlfriend opener works not because it’s the Jealous Girlfriend opener, but because it’s a way to start an animated conversation with a group of people without hitting on anyone. So as long as you can always do that, you’ve got nothing to worry about.

Knowledge will not change the fundamentals of how women and men are attracted to each other. To make a bad comparison: Guys who like big breasts tend to be into women with fake breasts; it doesn’t even matter to them that they’re NOT REAL. They still flip the same attraction switches that natural ones do.

In the world of mating, perception is reality. And attraction, in the words of David DeAngelo, is not a choice.

Yours,
Neil

PS Coming up next time: C-shaped smiles versus U-shaped smiles EXPLAINED. Yes, I’ve been reading your letters!

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Comments

92 Responses to “The Game Remains the Same”
  1. nuncle says:

    Yawn. Style made this post on mASF months ago.

  2. I work in Manhattan as a PUA coach. I always tell students who are most familiar with the game to use those methods.

    I have overseen hundreds of approaches with openers that can be found in the game. So far nobody has been called out for using a routine. But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t start looking for new avenues (i.e. tweaking the routines). As of now, stuff from the game works, but I’ll give it several months until I start actually seeing people getting busted.

    It won’t be from woman who have read the game, but rather woman who have heard the same words verbatim.

  3. i have been busten using the jealous gf opener once. didn’t matter, i had low game but at my current level i could have sparked attraction anyways. there are still enough ways to stand out from the big crowd of afc’s if you put some effort in improving your game

  4. style is stupid. he says that you still can use whats your sign
    well you can use anything but that doesnt make it ok that you talked about the community in such a wide way.

    1st Rule of the Secret Society:
    NEVER TALK ABOUT THE SECRET SOCIETY.

  5. horseshit says:

    if you’re a true PUA, you could walk up to a girl and talk about flakes of dried shit that are matted in your asshair and she’d still be into you.

    However, there’s no need to let it get to that point. The game isn’t meant to be TOLD, fuckstains.

  6. Vapor says:

    That article was exposed as fiction and the writer suspended.

  7. Shady says:

    A secret society? Keep in mind if you type Thundercat into google you get THIS SITE before you get any actual sites about the cartoon. The seduction community has never been the Freemasons.

  8. why_share_anything says:

    It begs the question, though. If anyone can co-opt routines that you share through the web, and then divulge them to thousands of guys in commercial workshops, or expose them in money making books, why would anyone want to share stuff that works? Why would anyone other than those who stand to $$$profit$$$ want to give away their trade secrets?

  9. deflorator says:

    I posted this on another forum a
    few months ago:

    “The book is a nice read , but I think it’s going to make some damage to the community.”

    and

    “Style is everywhere. Every talk-show in US and UK has him as a guest, they ask him to explain openers and negs, even to perform PU in live on air.
    Everybody is talking about it, they are making preparations for shooting the movie.They say Courtney Love wants to play the role of Katya.
    There’s too much fuss out there about it all. IMO that’s very bad news, bros. Now that mainstream media have their spotlights on the PU community, it can only turn out bad. Once the movie is released, we can forget about palm reading, cube game and a lot of other stuff we’re using now.
    I can imagine headlines in Cosmo and other chick magazines like: “Beware, he’s PUing you!” or “Get ready! Your countermeasures for his dirty tactics”. All those chickzines will instruct girls that PUAs are the worst kind of men and how to recognize them.
    I can understand Style’s motives (money, fame, LTR), but this book’s gonna hurt many people. It is the turning point in the history of PU.
    Well, to see it from the bright side, we will be forced to use our creative imagination and invent new and original techniques and routines.”

    Now we’ve seen the community exposed in the CSI and more and more other TV shows. They all picture PUAs as freaks, socially and emotionally fucked up persons who are only to be hated.
    Not good at all.

  10. Evo says:

    Sooner of later, this community will get popular, but by that time I’ll be a mPUA (So I don’t give a fuck..hahaha). Even if it gets popular, not many people will get good at the game. 90% of people in the community suck as of right now.

    Secondly, the community will be presented in a negative light. The movie might show it in a positive light, but once the word leaks out to in the main stream, not even Neil “ugly ass” Strauss can prevent angry women from frowning at the community.

    Shit I could even see some one writing a guid for women on “How to identify a PUA” and “How not to get burned by a PUA”. Once this shit gets popular, it will change the game a little bit. People will have to start being original :(

  11. Evo says:

    “deflorator” fuck I agree with you completely bro. I can already see

    “Beware, he’s PUing you!” or “Get ready! Your countermeasures for his dirty tactics”.

    Shit you hit the nail on the head. The community will be presented in a bad light.

  12. The Game says:

    Style wrote the game so he could seem like a real PUA to the rest of the world and get instant social proof PERIOD.

    It IS his pickup.

    I would like to see one real live person say they saw Style actually close.

    I agree with the comments above. Sure being a great PUA means you can say whatever you want and the chicks will dig you, but taking one guys entire method and trashing it so you can finally get some quality ass is a crappy thing. Secret Communities should stay that way for a reason.

    A) now there will be a whole bunch of chodes mucking it up for the really interested rAFCs.

    B) Style gets to take credit for someone else’s hard work and convince chicks he actually is a PUA, also thanks to someone elses hard work.

    I do agree however that this will also make guys be more ingenious and inventive. It will make guys work harder and not allow them to rely on techniques and tactics as much as before and focus more on inner game. OR some guys will invent newer and better techniques and tactics for doing Sargeing. Being a PUA is gonna be even more secret than before. Let the chodes be chodes and let Style destroy the Mystery Method. As a matter of fact I will feel even better about doing successful pick up after this stuff comes out main stream.

    Future Cosmo article “15 ways to tell if he’s a PUA”

    or

    “10 Questions to ask to identify a Pick-Up artist.”

  13. jackrabbit says:

    OK… I officially dont like Neil Strauss any more.

    The guy irradiated so much pure energy at some point. The Game has become bigger than he is, he has died when his ego took over. He is still powerfull energy but is not singular anymore in the way he could of been, energy in the world is overly abundant. Neil has left us now.

    Mystery and Ross Jeffries where never with us.

    Jack

  14. Beavis says:

    Thundercat said “Style drops some great nuggets”

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

  15. Evo says:

    Yeah, I used to have great respect for Style but once he started doing shady ass marketing with Thundercat, I lost my repect for him.

    When he first came to the scene, he invented a lot of stuff. Our little community benefited from him. But in the end, he will do more harm than benefits. Once the game leaks out, it will be very hard for the newbies to open girls.

  16. becca says:

    Wait, I thought the game was going to change forever! Now it’s going to stay the same? I’m so confused…. How is a chick supposed to plan if we don’t know if the game is staying the same or changing???

    Seriously, I think some of you guys are a bit too worried. I think the game is the same as a lot of things – there are classic moves and some trendy stuff. Learn a mix of both classic and trendy, combine with good body language and believe it’s going to be okay. For what it’s worth, in my chick opinion, I think the PUAs are mostly on the right track overall.

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  18. AMOG Destroyer says:

    This may be off topic, but check out this video of a guy sarging

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=MpT4AyBT1YU&search=amog

  19. We're back at square 1! AFCville. Start from scratch boys! says:

    Too bad we probably won’t be having that much fun anymore sarging. Oh well, *sigh*

    I don’t know if that approach was a success, although the dark haired chick did turn back to look at the PUA, not to mention the AMOG’s went running after the girls like pussies.

    Not only that, there was a camera involved and they know they were being recorded. So that had something to do with it.

  20. We're back at square 1! AFCville. Start from scratch boys! says:

    Too bad we probably won’t be having that much fun anymore sarging. Oh well, *sigh*

    I don’t know if that approach was a success, although the dark haired chick did turn back to look at the PUA, not to mention the AMOG’s went running after the girls like pussies.

    Not only that, there was a camera involved and they know they were being recorded. So that had something to do with it.

  21. Monte Cristo says:

    I believe you are worrying too much over this.

    “Beware, he’s PUing you!” or “Get ready! Your countermeasures for his dirty tactics”.

    Articles such as these will have some relevance in women’s mags when women stop wanting to be f*cked by men.

  22. Monte Cristo says:

    BTW those AMOGs were owned.

  23. The True Regal Blue Blood says:

    Even if they start writing crappy articles like that in women’s magazines, it really wouldn’t make a difference. Remember, women react and respond with their emotions. If she can sense that you’re confident and doesn’t detect any pu routine (being congruent), then there’s nothing to worry about.

    Remember, these chick magazines have always mentioned jerks and bad boys, and how to avoid them, and to get with a nice guy.

    Even with all that shit of information crammed and memorized in the chick’s dingy brain, who is the guy she always ends up choosing? The ASSHOLE!

    Never Fails.

    Just stop focusing on shitty routines and techniques (AFC mentality) and start being an asshole. That’s what gets you places.

  24. stnstrp says:

    When was The game published?

  25. Electric Six says:

    The guy gaming is Darren (Future), great vid!

    I wouldn’t consider these 19 year olds amogs and it really wasn’t fair cause Darren is way cooler than these schmocks!

    Nonetheless its a great vid!

    Check out the “Roadtrip”vid on PUAmedia!

    But be careful: Darrens Mystery impersonation might make you piss your pants!

  26. Electric Six says:

    Here’s another one!
    Anybody know whats the story behind this?
    I’m afraid this ain’t supposed to be funny!

    Looks like Cortez ain’t so “mighty”!

    hahahahahahaha!

    http://www.badboylifestyle.com/video/cortez_tit.wmv

  27. Neil Strauss is a SELL OUT says:

    Neil “I left the game” Strauss is coming out with ANOTHER book about the game….Not to mention a MOVIE will be coming out in less than 2 years…

    This guy copied every one in the community and now wants to act like he invented all of them to the masses….Neil you’re a joke, stop trying to act like your here for the common AFC…you just want every one in the world to think u are the greatest PUA but in reality, Mystery’s anus has better game…Lame ass geek

    Neil, you’re a liar also…didn’t you say you and Lisa are still together? Well I know some one who sees Lisa every other week and he said “hell no she isnt with the midget no more”…..LOL get ur nose fixed and learn how to be honest….

    I have been in the game for 4 years and I’m VERY good…dont take me dissing neil as me having inner game problems…this guy is really a SNAKE…..but all this media attention to this community is only making me NOT share some new cool tricks i have picked up….because i know some producer is looking around trying to put some material in his movie, thanks to neil selling out…

    Anyways, one thing for sure about this “game” is Neil will write about ANY new methods from now till his other book comes out…SO KEEP UR SHIT A SECRET, TILL THE SNITCH is gone.

  28. The Darkchild says:

    Like, OMG (that’s short for Oh my gay… just kidding) I’m so affraid that Style is goГЇng to mess up my style….

    Look peeps the only two people who made sence in this thread were Monte Cristo & The True Regal Blue Blood…

    Well… actually three, but one was a female so she doesen’t count, LOL.

    You shouldn’t worry that all those stupid routines and games and tricks in a bag aren’t goГЇng to work anymore. Nonsense really…

    You couldn’t pay me to use those “tactics” on a female…

    You guys actually take it so far that a GIRL has to come on the thread to give you advice… I mean damn…

    By the way that Darren dude seems like a funny guy, LOL. Cocky little basterd too….. he’s got talent! Hehe:P

    That Mystery impersonation really cracked me up! And that Cortez impersonation took the cake, LOL!

  29. The Darkchild says:

    **I just read the post by “Neil Strauss is a SELL OUT”**

    Damn it’s that bad already? Neil is on a rampage, I just hope that that movie doesn’t depict certain people in a negative way….

  30. deflorator says:

    Books, movies, talkshows, newspapers articles, magazine covers, crime scene TV plays, reality shows…what’s next? I bet Mattel’s gonna make dolls of Ken (PUA version with bald head and beard, fully peacocked) and Barbie rejecting him…and if Barbie rejects him every girl will follow her example because Barbie is the model to follow (remember: “from urban teen to fantasy queen, she’s every girl”).
    And Disney could make a cartoon with pretty Princess having to choose between her prince charming and a mean PUA…

    My point: this vulgar commercialization will destroy the community. When corporative capitalism smells money in something, it will do everything to squeeze the last dime out of it…and men who seek advice will become pupetts on strings of greedy and manipulative marketers…

    Media will portray these rAFCs as pathetic and naive wussies and PUAs will be presented as sick bastards and evil predators.

    This community was meant to be a place where men exchange advice on meeting women and learn how to improve their game, but , as someone said, the golden age of the community is over. It starts going sour.

    The only ones who will benefit from this situation are “gurus” because they will sell more seminars, DVDs etc.
    Take Mystery: for four years he had been offering free advice in seduction newsgroups, then he started giving workshops for 500 dollars…now the fee for his WS is up to 2450 bucks…after the movie is released I’m sure it will break the 5000 line…
    Or David D…I can’t wait to see his brand new 15 DVDs set on “How To Attract Girls While Taking Shit” featuring amazing new diarrhea opener…

    Of course, guys who have game will continue to be successful, but newbies who rely on routines and prepared material are doomed because they are still insecure, and if they are caught doing it, it will shake their confidence even more.

    Anyway, let’s wait and see where it all goes.

    P.S.
    Sorry, David D, no hard feelings, I like your stuff, I just think you overuse and recycle the same material to make more money.

  31. L8er says:

    Mystery’s ws fee is a result of simple economics.

    The demand has gone up, but the supply has stayed the same (only one Mystery), so the price HAS to go up.

    There are plenty of people that will fork out 5 grand for a Mystery ws, no problem.
    Personally i am all for people making as much money as they can, hurrah for capitalism!!

  32. long_gone says:

    “as someone said, the golden age of the community is over.”

    Shit, man, the golden age was over by the time everyone moved to fastseduction. Most of the real players had moved on by then. WIth a few exceptions, everything after that is just watered down knowledge.

  33. Neil Strauss bussy Right hand, now that Lisa left me says:

    : deflorator wrote: “I can’t wait to see his brand new 15 DVDs set on “How To Attract Girls While Taking Shit” featuring amazing new diarrhea opener”

    LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!

    Am i the only one who got rid of David D’s constant flooding of newsletters from my E-mail? He sends the same shit all the time..

  34. Neil "The Snake" Strauss says:

    I’m sure you guys know that a book editor asked struass to investigate the community of pickup artists. “Style” was nothing but a spy just waiting for the opportunity to expose the so-called “secret society”.
    Why do you think he chronicled most of his experiences and almost every convo he could muster. Just like a spy, he exploits the secrets, then overdramatizes the fallouts and deterioration that the community inflicts upon people like a nasty drug.

    Of course, he did have fun along the way, somewhat transformed himself, and found a new lease on life; or so he says. But he had a job to do. It doesn’t matter how close his friendship grew with some of the guys,he had to get the job done.

    In a way, it help some of the other guys. For instance, it helped Mystery jack up prices; hell, he’s even all over the media as well.

    Strauss was ordered to infiltrate and expose the community; that was his objective. I wouldn’t be surprised if he just played out the whole “nerdy” AFC image just to prove how powerfull this form of “brainwashing” can be… And to sell millions of books.

  35. Neil "The Snake" Strauss says:

    I’m sure you guys know that a book editor asked struass to investigate the community of pickup artists. “Style” was nothing but a spy just waiting for the opportunity to expose the so-called “secret society”.
    Why do you think he chronicled most of his experiences and almost every convo he could muster. Just like a spy, he exploits the secrets, then overdramatizes the fallouts and deterioration that the community inflicts upon people like a nasty drug.

    Of course, he did have fun along the way, somewhat transformed himself, and found a new lease on life; or so he says. But he had a job to do. It doesn’t matter how close his friendship grew with some of the guys,he had to get the job done.

    In a way, it help some of the other guys. For instance, it helped Mystery jack up prices; hell, he’s even all over the media as well.

    Strauss was ordered to infiltrate and expose the community; that was his objective. I wouldn’t be surprised if he just played out the whole “nerdy” AFC image just to prove how powerfull this form of “brainwashing” can be… And to sell millions of books.

  36. Neil "The Snake" Strauss says:

    One more thing!

    Mystery already knew what was going on. Strauss told Mystery what he was up to beforhand and told him to make him his top wing in exchange wide-known fame and noteriety to reach his goal as a well-known illusionist.

    Despite everything you’re heard of the “Great Mystery”, the guy is easily convinced into anything, especially when it concerns himself. Not to mention he’s more unstable than Rush Limbaugh.

    As with any other PUA “guru”, Mystery doesn’t care about his student’s successes; he only cares about money, fame and superstardom. It’s just too obvious.

    let’s take Tyler Durkin for instance. His “Surviving the Game” nonsense states that it’s in collaboration with “Neil Strauss”. Notice that it does not mention “Style”. People will see his products and say “wow, he’s working with bestselling author Neil Strauss, he must be good”.

    Neil Strauss is in no associated with that product, nor is he working with Tyler Durkin. The “live rare audio tracks” he talks about is only captured audio from when Neil was living in the mansion. I wouldn’t doubt if Neil is only featured on the program for less than 5 minutes.

  37. Neil "The Snake" Strauss says:

    One more thing!

    Mystery already knew what was going on. Strauss told Mystery what he was up to beforhand and told him to make him his top wing in exchange wide-known fame and noteriety to reach his goal as a well-known illusionist.

    Despite everything you’re heard of the “Great Mystery”, the guy is easily convinced into anything, especially when it concerns himself. Not to mention he’s more unstable than Rush Limbaugh.

    As with any other PUA “guru”, Mystery doesn’t care about his student’s successes; he only cares about money, fame and superstardom. It’s just too obvious.

    let’s take Tyler Durkin for instance. His “Surviving the Game” nonsense states that it’s in collaboration with “Neil Strauss”. Notice that it does not mention “Style”. People will see his products and say “wow, he’s working with bestselling author Neil Strauss, he must be good”.

    Neil Strauss is in no associated with that product, nor is he working with Tyler Durkin. The “live rare audio tracks” he talks about is only captured audio from when Neil was living in the mansion. I wouldn’t doubt if Neil is only featured on the program for less than 5 minutes.

  38. Monte Cristo says:

    Electric Six,

    That Cortez video should go down in history as one of the Top 10 unintended comedy efforts. Still laughing as I type this.

    Thanks.

  39. The Darkchild says:

    Yeah dude, it was a riot.

    Is all that shit about Neil the truth, and if so how do you know?

    You come talking lots and lots, but…..

    Not that I like Style or anything, LOL.

  40. It's all Bullshit! says:

    I would say there’s more truth to that Neil, Mystery, and Tyler story that the “the snake” posted, than what they are having you believe. Read his two posts twice or maybe three times. It all starts to sink in

  41. It's all Bullshit! says:

    I would say there’s more truth to that Neil, Mystery, and Tyler story that the “the snake” posted, than what they are having you believe. Read his two posts twice or maybe three times. It all starts to sink in

  42. The Darkchild says:

    It does sound believable ofcourse. People do freaky things for money.

    Ah well… the game remains the same.

    LOL.

    I still think that all you need to do to pick up a girl, is not worry about the outcome. Or what will happen. No fear, just have fun. Whatever happens

    To often us guys get edgy because were affraid to do something wrong. Like offend the women or say something stupid.

    One thing I found that really helps to cure that feeling is say something stupid or “offensive” on purpose.

    To a random girl on the street or whatever. Not only does it help cure your negative thoughts, but it’s damn fun to!

    The other day for example I was walking at a train station with a friend. And a small group of 4 girls were walking in front of us. I could see they were goГЇng out. It was friday and they had the typical “I’m goГЇng out and I’m horny” clothes on.

    Short skirt, high heeled boots, tights etc. Not only that but they were smelling of perfume like you wouldn’t believe. I could smell them from like 2, 3 meters away.

    Right there and then I started making these awfull sounds like someone choking on poison gass or something. My friend couldn’t help but laugh. LOL.

    Not intending to pick anyone up or whatever, I was just having fun.

    Or like that dude “I am the future” does, walking up to a girl, and asking her if she would like to fuck. I’ve been planning on doГЇng that for a while now, LOL.

  43. undertoe44 says:

    thish ish aweshome guysh

  44. PUA Master says:

    Does anyone remember that book for women that sold over 1 million copies. I think it was even on Operah’s famous book club. Yeah, It’s called “The Rules”. Women knew about it, but did they really follow those rules? NO!

    what I’m saying is that the game has been exposed long before “The Game” was published or even considered.

    Radio Personality Tom Leykis has been teaching guys how to get laid for over 10 years on his famous radio show. For those who don’t know, he has a weekly segment called “Leykis 101″, which he calls his classroom for getting “More Tail for Less Money”. Since the last year, his radio show gaining more success, fame, noteriety and higher demand. He has aquired alot more markets in various cities, which is making him more well known, even though he’s still a niche celebrity.

    His method on getting laid pretty much follow the same concept as what all the successful PUA’s suggest, although his approach is more extreme and controversial. Some women will figure out whether you’re a “Leykis 101 student” or a “PUA”.

    But like Tom says, let them know you’re a Leykis 101 follower and you’re not apologizing for it. If they find out, don’t deny it or make any excuses.

  45. DeMarco says:

    i’m confused.

    “game leaked out”?
    “presented in a bad light”?

    Are people so malformed in their own personal ego that they feel if someone out there knows about routines and openers that the little game is dead?

    If ALL you are is openers and routines, then yes. You’re done.
    But you know what, you didn’t have any substance to begin with.
    If a woman says “wait, i read about this, it’s the jeleous girlfriend opener!”
    Guess what I’ll have my reply. I already do.
    And i’ll STILL built rapport, and i’ll STILL make out with them, and i’ll STILL get a number.

    If a girl calls you out, and all you do is shrink away cursing Style. Then guess what? All that is, is nature taking it’s course and weeding out the weak ones.

    Once you know, and feel comfortable with building attraction and connection, there’s no such thing as openers, or routines.

    I mean, the game has ALREADY changed. There’s a whole new system and methodology out there that hasn’t been talked about in Style’s book, or on most PUA sites.

    Just like Ross’s methods were *IT* until Mystery came along, there’s another whole revolution in methodology out there that’s taking place and it seems most people are stuck in openers and routines.
    Ross’s stuff from 1988 desn’t work anymore. And Mystrey’s stuff from 2000 won’t work before long, and Style’s stuff from 2003/2004 won’t work before long, but if you aren’t into the “next thing” then yes, you’ll get called out and flamed.

    But that’s YOUR fault…. not Style’s.

  46. Neil took more than gave BACK says:

    DeMarco = Neil Stauss

    Shut your conry ass up….I have been in the game since 1999 and I know i would never be at the point i’m at right now if there was a lot of back stabbing like what you have done….dusty motha fucka, keep out secrects a secret snitch and stop selling it so your little midget ass can get more greens in your wrangler jeans

    New guys looking to have game CANT and WON’T because every one and their mama will know about “opinion openers” thanks to a little midget who thought it would be cute to get money off of what OTHERS before him made up….

    Get a life and stop loging in with other nicks…be a man…you’re not “cooler” by pretending you don’t have time for this blog, so you log in with other nicks….fucking bald headed loser…..just say ur a sell out and everything you say is to get these nice insecure men’s money into your wallet…be honest

  47. duped says:

    Neil Strauss(Style) = Donnie Brasco

  48. The Darkchild says:

    LOL. You people are crazy.

    Shut up.

  49. Electric Six says:

    Hey Guys!

    I’m talkin’ to you from sunny Germany where the women…are just outstandin’…!

    No, really, as some of you might know Style is doing his book presentation all over Germany right now(The Game was just published in german) and he’s in every fucked up cheap-housewive tv-show!
    I just happened to see a bit where he instructs some geek to use a pet-name-opener on some UG3′s…

    Wannabe-highschool-PUAs worship him, he games these little nerds and they think they’re his buddies!
    Here’s a thread from the german MM-Forum with some pics: http://www.mysterymethod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5592 (btw, Lisa has come to Germany as well…, seee the pics!)

    In germany, a fuckin’ #close is enough to call yourself a PUA…

    In Germany, The Game workshops are already available as well, Instructors are Daniel Nessje(Badboy) and Robert Bednarek(Magnum), a DVD is also in stores!

    Capitalism hooray!

    WTF?

    Soon every loser in good ol’ Europe will display alpha BL Cortez-style! hahahahahaha!(most arabs and turks stumble around like this anyway!)

    Whats next?

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