Hanging out with Tyler Durden

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Okay, so this weekend I got a special treat, which was the opportunity to hang out with one of the best in the pick-up game currently — the incomparable Tyler Durden. The last time I hung out with Tyler was back in October when I was a guest instructor at the Chicago RSD workshop, so it was a real treat when Tyler called me up this weekend and asked to hang out.

On Saturday I went out to the Project Hollywood mansion and briefly crashed the Mystery Method seminar that was going on this past weekend. It was pretty cool to get to see Mystery holding court in the middle of their rather spacious living room, but I didn’t want to interfere too much with the proceedings, so I went on up to Tyler’s room to hang out.

Needless to say, Tyler hadn’t changed much since last time I saw him. He was lounging around in a dirty t-shirt and sweatpants with his hair all messed up — a distinctly NON-PEACOCKED version of the guy I had never gotten to see before, yet he still had that boyish passion and enthusiasm for the game. That’s one of the things I like about Tyler. I feel my game just improves by being around the guy. It’s almost like his energy is infectious, and his aura has a “midas touch” quality about it. Regardless, he’s also one hell of a fun guy to just bullshit with.

As I sat up in the master bedroom shooting the shit with him, we talked about a lot of stuff. He complimented me on my new “Hollywood Sleazball” look, which I’ve been cultivating since January. He also talked about how much he enjoys the blog, to which I replied “You actually read that shit?” lol. We also talked a bit about business, and how he’s looking forward to going to Australia next week for the DYD/RSD workshops. I tell you, I don’t envy Tyler that much (well, maybe I envy how much he gets laid, =). The dude’s got a hard job. I can’t imagine what it must be like going out with a group of AFCs expecting you to perform in an uncontroled field environment and actually having to perform night after night. Even though Tyler is young, you can tell the effects of the job are starting to take their toll. His voice is pretty strained and the guy looks constantly tired. But he just can’t stop sarging. He seems to love it too much.

On Sunday we went out to lunch together and talked a bit more about the game. I shared some of my own routines with him, and he shared some of his stuff with me. Tyler always has great material, but the thing I like about his stuff is that he’s actually able to explain and discuss the theory behind it. For instance, we had a discussion about a new opener he’s using that has the pitfall of making a girl feel guilty for cheating on her boyfriend, should she have one. Most PUAs might not have noticed there was a problem with the opener, but Tyler was able to break it down and try to fix it. Just the fact that the two of us were discussing it (and keep in mind, when it comes to the game, I’m no where near the level Tyler is), shows me that Tyler is truly a guy who will learn from anyone. In fact, that’s very much one of his biggest strengths. No matter who you are, if you have something good or intelligent to say, Tyler will absorb it, break it down, and improve upon it — kind of like the Japan of the PUA community! lol.

He also shared a new concept he’s working on with me called “Reverse State Openers” (or something like that. My memory is bad enough as it is, I can’t remember stupid details like like names for openers. I’ll have to call him up and get my facts straight about what he actually calls it). Anyway, the idea behind these openers is to go into set incredibly AFC, to the point of being rediculous, so that it’s actually funny. He did a few examples for me and I was on the floor laughing. I can only imagine what it must be like for a girl, because the opener is also one hell of a way to pace her reality. Tyler says these new openers go over very well, and I want to see one at work in the field.

But the big news from our meetings comes down to this: Tyler has agreed to write a regular column for the blog. That’s right, Tyler Durden, one of the best Pick-Up Artists in the game, is going to reguarly write a monthly article exclusively for Thundercat’s Seduction Lair. I’ll be starting a special archive for all his posts here as well so they can all be accessed by anyone at any time. Tyler is never at a lack for things to write about, and this just gives him yet another outlet to let his creative juices flow. Keep in mind this will NOT be stuff you’ll find on mASF or RSD newsletters. This material will be EXCLUSIVE to the blog. And best of all, it’ll be free!!!

So there you have it folks. A new contributor for the blog, and a new outlet to help you guys get better at picking up women! I plan to get the first article of Tyler’s up and running sometime towards the end of March, so keep on checking back for it.

Her Making a Effort Makes it Real

Dimitri has an interesting post on the Advanced board of mASF about how when a woman does things to engage you, she will become more attracted to you in the process.

Dimitri writes:
If a woman is doing things to make the encounter go further, the she’s going to get more attracted. I attribute this to a woman rationalizing that if she’s doing things to make it go forwards with me, she must actually like me.

Actions like…
-Making her find a pen, paper, or whatever else to give you her number
-”Draw a picture so I’ll remember you” when she writes her phone number, or making her write a quote down
-Having her drive to pick me up when we’re going out
-Her paying for anything/everything
-Her doing even little things for me like pouring my tea
-When she makes an offer for me to have anything once I’m back at her place (drink, food), taking it
-When we’re in the bedroom and going at it, telling her to put the condom on
…all have her doing some of the work, as well as that it can put her more or less in a supplicative frame.

I like this because I think it’s a pretty valid point that if you can get the girl to do things where she is trying to keep the interaction going, you’ve effectively gotten her to start chasing you, which is a very good way of increasing attraction. There are many ways to do this, but when it call comes down to it, it’s about having a strong frame and leading the girl once she’s in your reality.

You can read the whole thread on this here.

Best of the MrSex4uNYC archive

Yes, someone with WAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY too much time on their hands has put it to good use and done everyone a public service by collecting the best posts from the MrSex4uNYC archive and posting them to the General board of mASF. Lots of good stuff in this massive post can be found here.

Personally, the MrSex4uNYC archive is one of my favorites. I think this guy was the real deal and he has a lot of good stuff to write about. When I have the time, I’ll be sure to read this one all the way through!

MINE’99 on Spike TV

The Godfather of the Seduction community, MINE’99, was on the John Henson Project this weekend on SPIKE TV. I didn’t get to see the show, but some people on mASF did. Here’s the negative view…

MeSoHorney writes:
I just saw MINE’99 appear on the Spike TV show ‘The John Henson Project’. He didn’t come off too well:

As the segment is ending

MINE’99: seduction.com
MINE’99: Remember! seduction.com!
John Henson: Yeah, okay. Jesus Christ shut up.

It was pretty funny. john Henson’s pretty funny too. I’m gonna watch that show from now on.

And now, for the slightly LESS negative view…

Gunwitch writes:
Just peeped it myself. Jim/john whatever henson deal was lets just say biased. I mean MINE’99 and i aint been friends well…. EVER, but that shit was biased.

I seriously doubt MINE’99 clapped for video of men being slapped at his openers and thrown up on in one in a joke skit.

Id say MINE’99 did OK, he didnt take it too serious and just had fun, probably knowing it was a shit promo of his material.

Anyhow at least MINE’99 can teach guys or at least motivate guys to try to get laid, henson tortured me with his lame hershey highwayman jokes til the ross segment. MINE’99 will be selling SS 5 years from now, henson/plus writing staff might be a lounge acts in vegas if lucky at that time, CRAP comedy they write and deliver.

**Original posts edited by me.

Well, there you go. I didn’t get to see it, but if modern culture stays true to form, then it’s not surprizing they showed MINE’99 in a less than favorable light, deserving of it or not. But, his exposure to the mainstream does get more people involved in the community in the long run. If anyone knows of any video of this on the web, feel free to post the link in the comments section.

You can read the whole thread on mASF here.

MINE’99 on Spike TV

The Godfather of the Seduction community, MINE’99, was on the John Henson Project this weekend on SPIKE TV. I didn’t get to see the show, but some people on mASF did. Here’s the negative view…

MeSoHorney writes:
I just saw MINE’99 appear on the Spike TV show ‘The John Henson Project’. He didn’t come off too well:

As the segment is ending

MINE’99: seduction.com
MINE’99: Remember! seduction.com!
John Henson: Yeah, okay. Jesus Christ shut up.

It was pretty funny. john Henson’s pretty funny too. I’m gonna watch that show from now on.

And now, for the slightly LESS negative view…

Gunwitch writes:
Just peeped it myself. Jim/john whatever henson deal was lets just say biased. I mean MINE’99 and i aint been friends well…. EVER, but that shit was biased.

I seriously doubt MINE’99 clapped for video of men being slapped at his openers and thrown up on in one in a joke skit.

Id say MINE’99 did OK, he didnt take it too serious and just had fun, probably knowing it was a shit promo of his material.

Anyhow at least MINE’99 can teach guys or at least motivate guys to try to get laid, henson tortured me with his lame hershey highwayman jokes til the ross segment. MINE’99 will be selling SS 5 years from now, henson/plus writing staff might be a lounge acts in vegas if lucky at that time, CRAP comedy they write and deliver.

**Original posts edited by me.

Well, there you go. I didn’t get to see it, but if modern culture stays true to form, then it’s not surprizing they showed MINE’99 in a less than favorable light, deserving of it or not. But, his exposure to the mainstream does get more people involved in the community in the long run. If anyone knows of any video of this on the web, feel free to post the link in the comments section.

You can read the whole thread on mASF here.

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