LA PUA Summit Details
March 25, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under News
Word just in from Papa on the Los Angeles PUA Summit next month:
Papa writes:
Hey Guys,Our next PLAY Meeting will be for the 2004 PUA Summit – Spring 2004 (sponsored by FastSeduction.com). The program will take place all day at the Project Hollywood Mansion at 1317 Londonderry Place on April 3-4. If you have trouble finding the venue, you can call me at 608-345-2166 (do not call unless you cannot find us).
Below are the details…
Location : Project Hollywood Mansion, LA. Meet in front of Mel’s Diner on Sunset Strip April 3 at 12pm to be brought to the location for the free seminars.
Come meet and learn from the BEST in the game, including:
(in alphabetical order to preserve egos)
Craig
Formhandle
Harmless
Mystery
Papa
Playboy LA
MINE’99
Style
Swinggcat
The One
Thundercat
Tyler DAnd more special guests…
Admission is FREE for all ASF members and their friends. FREE mini-seminars and lectures will be held April 3-4.
Wow, it looks like quite a line-up there. I’m curious to see if there can truely be a peaceful meeting of all those egos… especially considering most are not on very good terms with MINE’99 at the moment.
Also, on a personal note, I had no idea I was included on the list of speakers. I’m a bit uncomfortable being grouped with the BEST in the game. I mean, there are things I excell at. I’m great at approaching, I can do cocky-funny with the best of them, and I’m getting pretty good at push-pull, but I am far, FAR from the best. If people are looking to learn, there are better people to learn from out there than myself.
I wasn’t asked if I wanted to be a guest speaker at the PUA summit. I’d love to be there and meet everyone, but honestly, it depends on if my schedule will permit it. I may be out of town that weekend. And frankly, I think I’d be a bit out of place among some of those guys. They’re all, for the most part, friends of mine, but when it comes to skill level, I’m outshined in every respect.
I’d be interested in hearing from you guys on this subject. If any of you are planning to attend this Summit, would you really WANT to hear me speak and maybe give a mini-seminar about something? Do you think I’m worth your valuable time to listen to? Or would you rather spend that time getting more info from the REALLY GOOD guys? If there’s a big enough demand for it, I guess I’ll try and make the summit and speak, but if not, I may as well just forget about basking in the spotlight of internet fame. =)
So respond and let me know what you think.
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Oh…you are SO cute when
you are angry.
The only ones’ I’m not getting along with are you, Swingcat(for out and out lying about me) and Tyler, who just creeps me out. The rest I get along with fine(Style especially who has PERSONALLY told you I can walk my talk but you STILL don’t believe it) or have never
even met.
Now, is lying something that comes naturally to you, or did you pick it up from Pop who has to keep justifying those BILLIONS of our dollars for a system that REALLY doesn’t work?
RJ
Hey TC, TD here..
I’m just browing your site, and I wanted to say that I think you’ll do a great job guest speaking. It’s not a big deal or anything, so I think just downplay it. Go up, talk a bit about your experiences in the game, and show us a few of your coolest lines or routines or whatever. No need to give any guru perspective or anything if you don’t want to. Just come hang out and shoot the shit on your experiences and a few of you best lines. Nobody is expecting anything more, and I know you’ll be a great speaker. The PUA convention is just a fun activity for likeminded guys to hang out, and its not like a big formal thing or anything – at least as how I interpret it. I’m looking forward to hearing you talk, man.
btw, its 9am and I just cabbed home from Santa Monica after spending the night with a 5’10 smoking HB9 that I met last night at the Mandrian/Skybar on the Sunset Strip. I have no ill will towards anyone in the world right now, and I read the post above this one and have to wonder how anyone living in a city with this many beautiful women could write something so negative. Let’s all cheer up, huh? We’re all in the same community, and even if our ideas differ we’re still a world away from the socially propagated dating culture. So really, regardless of tactics, we all have the same base understanding in mind.
I have that article on my labtop btw, so I’ll get an A disk and send it to you asap.
-TD
Nice post/comment TD.
Thundy inhale deeply. Now relax.
You can do well. Yeah you are being thrown into the spotlight a little bit. So what, enjoy it.
Don’t apologize about your skills. Just take steps of what you do know. Hell tell you experiences how you have grown from when you originally got into all of this.
Peace
“I have no ill will towards anyone in the world right now, and I read the post above this one and have to wonder how anyone living in a city with this many beautiful women could write something so negative.”
Well, let me educate you, Tyler, so you understand my “negativity”.
Thundercat keeps lying about me.
He’s lied in the past about how I conduct my business, what I’ve originated, etc. etc.
Now, in this most recent post, which you cited, he’s lied about who I get along with in the community.
Now, maybe you don’t care about people lying about you. Maybe you really just live to get laid.
Good for you.
I DO care when I am lied about.
Thundercat seems to be obsessed with attacking me. And he’s not honest enough to come out in the open and state the REAL grounds for his hostility toward me.
Sorta like you; he’s a passive-aggressive kinda guy. I prefer people be straight-up about their hostility, you know? And at least be honest about it.
Thundercat just keeps on lying…and lying…and LYING some more.
Sooner or later, his lies will cost him.
This last set of lies is free, however.
Hope that helps you understand, assuming you even want to or care.
RJ
P.S. It’s not like I enjoy this game with Thundercat. I even emailed him, offering to bury the hatchet and spend an entire day helping him one on one with his inner game. He never even responded. He’s a big baby, at bottom, who can’t be a man, be direct, and say what’s really eating him. And he sat over bread with me months ago at Papa’s B-day dinner and was nice as could be, all the while writing shit about me behind my back.
Dishonorable man. That’s what it is.
Do you get honor, Tyler?
Ross…get help. Seriously.
Dump the yoga and NLP and go see a shrink.
I’ve read your archives on FS101, you’ve been
constantly snippin’ and cryin’ and accusin’
since ’98. You ALWAYS have an enemy.
Actually, you have an illness, it is called
“Paranoid Personality Disorder”
Here is the definition from the DSM IV:
A pervasive distrust and suspiciousness of others such that their motives are interpreted as malevolent, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by four (or more) of the following:
1. suspects, without sufficient basis, that others are exploiting, harming, or deceiving him or her
2. is preoccupied with unjustified doubts about the loyalty or trustworthiness of friends or associates
3. is reluctant to confide in others because of unwarranted fear that the information will be used maliciously against him or her
4. reads hidden demeaning or threatening meanings into benign remarks or events
5. persistently bears grudges, i.e., is unforgiving of insults, injuries, or slights
6. perceives attacks on his or her character or reputation that are not apparent to others and is quick to react angrily or to counterattack
7. has recurrent suspicions, without justification, regarding fidelity of spouse or sexual partner
Get treatment Ross…you have a LOT to offer,
and your illness diminishes you.
Good Luck.
Ommm Shalom Foobeldy Smaidendorkshire.
This makes me want to barf. To paraphrase a great man, Snoop Dizzle: “This nigga said this, this nigga said that, man I don’t give a FUCK what that nigga said. See, that’s y’all problem, y’all running around talking like a buncha lil BITCHES. Get your own, be independent, nigga!”
BTW, I’ll be in LA next week, I am apprehensive that it’s gonna be a fest of sniping bitch-niggas approaching StarTrekComiCon dorkiness levels. But I’ll enjoy seeing my friends and pulling ass while you dodes jock each other for your MONEY and REPUTATION. Two things I couldn’t care less about.
See ya next week!
-jlaix
Ross – I think TD’s “negative” statement was in reference to your calling him a creep.
“This makes me want to barf. To paraphrase a great man, Snoop Dizzle: “This nigga said this, this nigga said that, man I don’t give a FUCK what that nigga said. See, that’s y’all problem, y’all running around talking like a buncha lil BITCHES. Get your own, be independent, nigga!”
When you’re not the one being lied about
it’s easy not to care.
Matt is reaching his limit with me.
Matt, if you are reading this, look up the history of R. Don Steele and what happened to him.
You are headed down the same road with the same consequences.
Do the math and rationally calculate if the ya-ya’s you get with your malice are worth the price you are going to pay.
Because I WILL make you pay it. If you have to be the example I set for the rest of the community as I did with Steele 4 years ago, then set it I will.
Ask yourself where Steele is and what happened to him.
RJ
Thundy,
I haven’t met you so I don’t know where you are at skill level wise. But I do think that your site is one of the single strongest seduction resources on the web. I no longer have to wade (sp?) through fastseduction.com and I fuckin’ LOVE it. Too bad I can’t make the trip from Sydney, AU cause I’d like to hang.
RJ. Be chill man. There is a difference between talking shit and lying.
Thundy,
“RJ. Be chill man. There is a difference between talking shit and lying.”
I agree with you. I know the difference. I SUPPORT the difference.
If Matt wants to say he thinks I’m the biggest
asshole in the world and Speed Seduction(R) is a load of horseshit, that’s HIS opinion and he is entitled to it and it’s just talking shit.
When he makes false statements about how I do business, what I’ve created and my standing with other people in the community-when he makes FALSE statements of “fact” then he is crossing the line.
Every time he does it and I DON’T answer it is presumed by some to be true.
His behavior is dishonorable, cowardly, and it’s also a compensation for some REAL problem he has with me that he refuses to come out and the open and discuss.
Matt..be a man. State your REAL beef.
Or shut up about me and pretend I don’t exist.
But stop your lies…or you WILL pay a price.
Steele would not listen after I repeatedly requested he stop his behavior.
He found out too late I was serious.
Check your malice Matt. Get off of auto-pilot and find a different target. This target smacks back. HARD.
RJ
Whoa, Ross.
You’ve lost it, dude.
I’ve been watching you for a long time and whoever said it above said it best:
You always have an enemy.
I don’t know who said what about whom. Until tonight, I haven’t heard jack about the latest goings on. But now that I was passed the link to this thread of comments, I do know that you make yourself look really bad.
BTW, I have shitloads of money and plenty of lawyers. Comfortable corporate jobs pay well, and who knows, I could be persuaded to donate to defend a friend. I’m just saying.
-MD
Whoa…
I read over these posts and it just makes Ross look bad. He doesn’t help himself out at all. For someone who teaches social skills you would think he would do better. – (And thats my opinion)
I’ve heard things and I’ve heard people’s opinion of him, and I don’t know if all the bad things are true about him.
Because I’m sure people DO scheme and talk about him and try to figure out ways to make him look bad – but why should they go to all that trouble when he does it HIMSELF! The boat is sinking itself!
And all these “perceptions” of attacks make him look paranoid. And thats MY opinion.
No one likes someone that can’t get along with people. And I get the vibe that Ross is not liked at all in this community.
My opinion is that Ross needs to get grounded and get some. -help that is.
And whether he really is getting laid or not doesn’t matter because any guy whos getting some obviously doesn’t act like he has a stick up his butt. – That’s my opinion for you!
And yes I AM talking shit
Blue
The ABC’s of seduction by Ross should be:
A – Attack
B – Blame
C – Criticize
-Blue
I luv how we all love each other! See you guys at the PUA Summit.
Jeffries,
My advice to YOU is to stop flapping your pie hole. You keep implying that you are “connected” to the “government” and are using that to intimidate my friend. IF you are really with an “agency” you will know who I am and that I don’t talk bullshit. Stop making these threats or I will deal with YOU personally. That is not a threat you little cunt- that is a promise.
RJ,
Chill.
Cheers,
DoctorOWl
Ross, you’re like Biff from Back To The Future. First you destroy me, the R. Don Meister, and now you’re fixed to oust up poor Thundy as well.
All I ever wanted to do was help guys get laid, but now I am a the ghost of seduction’s past.
Thundy, do NOT mess with Mine’99. He will annihilate you. He drives a Saub. Do you know what guys who drive Saub’s do to uppety little Thundy’s? You don’t even want to know.
Look what happened to me. Poor R. Don Steele.
Your friend,
R. Don Steele
Lol!
This is funny – Actually I researched R. Don Steele a bit and he’s a successful author and even has books on Amazon.com and Barnes and Noble.
So he’s quite successful – The word on the street is that Ross just bullied him into a settlement (as he had published some info from Ross’s seduction list) and since R. Don Steele just got tired of the legal battle – they just reached a settlement that R. Don Steele would stay away from Ross’s internet clients.
I don’t know if it’s true or not, but thats the word.
So all the hype and scare tactics that Ross is using to seems to be just that – HYPE!
Like a bully (BIFF) who can’t play with anyone else! Just his cats! – and maybe himself
-Blue
I have heard you appealing to people before about coming clean with their supposed gripes. I think it was Toecutter you thought had some hidden gripe and posted a list of “please tell us your real gripe against me” posts. How standard is this? Does anyone else have examples from other posters?
Maybe the much publicized Ross vs. Mystery challenge can happen at this event. Rj, especially with this gas bagging it will be time to put up or shut up. If you can not walk out onto sunset strip and pick-up, will admit that you are just the same a Ray Gordon, the arm-chair theorist who is a self proclaimed guru with no success and will you leave the community forever?
You know what you guys are like? You are like Powerpuff girls. SO feisty… but I like that. Are you always like this?
you guys all together are like little girls……
wtf is this??
Revalidation tactics??
guys, lets get serious….
Ross – the United PUA Association has decided to eject you from the PUA community. You are hereby formally ejected.
We don’t like you, we don’t want you, and we’re tired of your trolling.
We’re seriously tired of the drama.
PUA’s against ROSS unite!!! Help us keep the community free from Ross!
The Ejector
TC…
I’d be interested in hearing you speak at the summit, if you’re in town…even if it’s just to introduce yourself.
See you all in LA.
TowerT,
Moderator, The Austin Society
TC, u should totally go and have a few words if u can make it. Would’ve been great to be able to finally get ‘workshopped’ by the best in field but can’t afford a flight from the UK, and uni starting again too…
GRRRRRRR! Any chance there will be a vid of the seminar? :/
Loverboy
Hey guys – one VERY important detail re: parking for the summit…please do NOT park on Londonderry Place, our street. ONLY park at any of the lots on Sunset Blvd (might cost a dime or two) – I believe there is free parking 1.5 blocks west of Londonderry off of Sunset. Our neighbors are VERY sensitive on the issue of parking – and since the PH party last Sat, we do not need to push them any further.
Thanks!
SS.
hey guys, am I too late?
:p
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