It’s Just Wrong
February 4, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under Quotes & Humor
**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 2/2/04
Okay, I don’t know why I’m posting this… maybe its the masochist in me, or maybe it’s the jlaix-esque coke binge I’ve been on for the last 4 days, but I think it’s funny.
You really don’t want to click here.
I warned you.
Thundercat
Mystery chimes in on the RJ/TD Flamefest
February 4, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under News
**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 2/2/04
Mystery has chimed in with the whole ”Ross vs. TD” flamefest that has occured on the mASF boards, though you wouldn’t know it if you weren’t looking. Seems Mystery swooped in using Roadking’s computer and accidentally logged in as him, but I can assure you, the following post is by Mystery:
Topic: Your overpowering reality (29 of 29), Read 23 times
Conf: >> General
From: Roadking lordkreel@yahoo.com
Date: Monday, February 02, 2004 03:27 AMTD>>In fact, if you look back, it was actually from my posts that Mystery learned this gameplan, and changed his 13 Steps model over to a more complete 7 Steps model. It came after 2 posts well-known of mine from last December/January.
RJ>Wow. You are teaching Mystery now! I’ll have to find
out what he says about that.Yes TD was observing me in the field (and stayed at my place while in Toronto) and noticed certain things I did (recognizing patterns I was doing without my even knowing it). His insights helped refine my format which lead to my changing 13 steps (which went from MEET to KISS) into 7 steps (MEET to SEX). of course 7 steps has since been refined further (with TDs insights still a part of it) into the most elegant method so far: M3. I teach it in my seminar … it teaches how to go from MEET to SEX and breaks the path into discrete stages (3 stages each with 3 phases). I cant outline it here because I need to show the concept using a visual representation. Thanks to TD for sharing his time with me. While there is some crossover between TD’s seminar and mine, there are new refinements and specific field tested material that is different.
Mystery
PS: Flames are fun.
Well, there you have it. It seems Ross has a harder time with TD teaching Mystery Method than Mystery does. The thing is, don’t teachers normally want their student’s to succeed? I mean, Tyler learned all he knows from Mystery, but Tyler also broke it down and incorporated a lot of his own stuff into the mix. I’ve been sarging with Mystery, and I’ve been sarging with Tyler, and though the basics of their game is the same, the specifics are quite different. Tyler is able to do the same thing Mystery is, only without the SUPER peacocking, Magic tricks, etc. In a way, TD’s stuff is a little less intimidating to learn because it’s tailored to the more ”average” guy. That said, Mystery’s stuff is still the most solid version of Mystery Method I’ve seen.
The funny thing is, what TD has done with Mystery Method is no different than what Ross has done with NLP. Ross is basically teaching NLP, a science OTHER PEOPLE developed, yet with his own insights and focus. It is literally NO DIFFERENT than whay Tyler is doing, yet Ross seems to feel the need to indite Tyler about it. In short, Ross is exposing himself as a flat-out hypocrite.
So sad.
Thundercat
Steve Piccus in Distress, a Major Mark Seminar, and Cliff’s List Difficulties
February 4, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under News
**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 1/31/04
Well, the latest issue of Cliff’s List came out, saying that here had been difficulty with the e-mail system before so some people missed the last couple of issues, but Cliff claims he has switched to a new software that should take care of the problem. However, I STILL did not recieve the latest issue. It had to be e-mailed to me by a friend. And this is important because the latest issue of Cliff’s List had a pretty heartwrenching post in it that should be seen by as many people as possible, so I’m reposting much of it here on the blog.
Basically, we all know about the horrible fires down in Sand Diego a while back. I know we here in California were greatly concerned about the whole ordeal. Us in LA were lucky enough to get by unscathed, but it seems that not everyone in the community came out as good as we did.
Steve Piccus, an extraordinarily talented and gifted hypnotist and renaissance man, who some of the greats such as Rick H., David DeAngelo, and many others have learned enormous amounts from, has suffered a serious setback due to the San Diego fires. Apparently, the fires practically burned a circle around Steve’s place and it seems that only luck prevented him and everything he has from being completely destroyed. It has also decimated his personal consulting/hypnosis/treatment business as his clients dissipated after what happened.
To do my part to help this legend in the community, I’m adding his website, www.stevepiccus.com to my Links section so bloggers everywhere can hopefully find their way to his services. But I am also reposting the information Major Mark put up on Cliff’s List about the seminar he’s holding in benefit of Steve and he hard times he’s going through. So if you’re interested in attending and helping Steve out, you can register online at Major Mark’s website right here. Or, you can call Cassi at 419-882-8543 to register. Any questions or comments can be sent to Cassi@trucor.com.
HEY GUYS, THIS IS IMPORTANT!!!
The recent fires in southern California had a Bad Effect on a friend of mine — he was driven out of his home by the encroaching flames, and his income was torched by the massive social disruptions.
Well, friends help friends.
I’m going to be in San Diego for the weekend of February 20-22, 2004 to do a three-day gig to raise money, to help a friend. I’ll be teaching what might be best described as a Marknosis Sampler — key lessons and techniques from three of our most popular seminars. In this our only West Coast appearance for 2003/2004, I’ll be leading the group through a fast-paced sampler of inductions and exercise from our three top-selling recent seminars. Not for the faint of heart, we’re going to rip through changes in your beliefs, behaviors, thoughts and sensations until you’re basically intact, just massively enhanced with the ability to take control of your life and DRIVE!
The intent of this seminar is really two-fold — I have an opportunity to teach a series of high-impact exercises without a whole lot of wrapping them in a philosophical framework/convincer strategy. Think of it as Marknosis without the training wheels. I’ll be using an in-class approach that gets the attendees performing/experiencing advanced trance phenomena much faster than ever before. And the second reason is that in doing the first I can help out a good man who needs it right now. Altruism and enlightened self-interest, all in one.
Day 1 is the heart of my Introduction To Marknosis seminar. It all begins with the key lessons and behaviors you need to master to become in control of your thoughts your feelings and your behaviors. You learn the latest in powerful self-inductions, learn to release all stress on command, summon positive resources at will, utilize Deep Trance Identification, build in an automatic Journaling process, build an assortment of Trance triggers, and then venture out to do the Holy Trinity exercise at night.
Day 2 is the cream of our most challenging seminar, Designing And Imprinting Your Own Belief System. Building on Friday’s base, we sort out what you REALLY believe from what you THINK you do, show you how to irrevocably shatter the past’s hold over you, work through a set of beliefs that will work for YOU, and imprint these so deeply that you’ll swear they’re your own natural way of thinking!
Day 3 teaches you how to integrate your new thoughts, feelings and behaviors into a lifestyle, through Conditioning For Permanent Change. Anyone can have an experience inside a seminar room. The trick is two-fold — how to make any highly desirable change become permanent for you, and how to make the process of positive incremental change itself become your default state. Day 3 features Deep Trance Identification with your Other Selves, designing your New Self, introduces Conditioning With Pleasure, and creating your own Alphabet Of Desire.
Attendees get two bonuses as well: Learning To Love It — this is the incredibly relaxing, soothing and compelling induction that we use to condition subjects to absolutely, resolutely and permanently LOVE
the process of changing themselves into the Self of their dreams. Studio recorded and mastered, this CD is the cutting-edge in preparing normal humans to become extraordinary individuals. Hey Baby — You know all
those times when you hesitated for a moment, and then the moment was gone? Strap yourself in then, because all those disappointments are a thing of the Past once you’ve begun training with Hey Baby, the induction that puts some ooomph into your Desires and makes you impulsive about getting what YOU want! Studio recorded and mastered, on CD.
Sometime during the weekend we will also be doing three of our new ”demonstrational” installations — the now infamous Cottage of Memories, the Charisma Generator (using the profile we created during the NYC
Master Hypnotist Looks At Seduction seminar), and a spanking new one that automatically sucks negativity out of you as an ongoing process.
This weekend is shaping up to be exactly what we get the most requests for — high-impact hypnotic conditioning exercises one right after another, all suitable for transforming your Self or for conditioning others. You’ll get to learn how to do some Way Cool Hypnosis, and you’ll get your desired changes by default as well.
Cost is $595. Cheap! Register online at http://www.store.yahoo.com/trucor/, or call Cassi at 419-882-8543. Send mail to Cassi@trucor.com with questions or comments.
There you have it. Help a brother out.
Thundercat
Steve Piccus in Distress, a Major Mark Seminar, and Cliff’s List Difficulties
February 4, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under News
**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 1/31/04
Well, the latest issue of Cliff’s List came out, saying that here had been difficulty with the e-mail system before so some people missed the last couple of issues, but Cliff claims he has switched to a new software that should take care of the problem. However, I STILL did not recieve the latest issue. It had to be e-mailed to me by a friend. And this is important because the latest issue of Cliff’s List had a pretty heartwrenching post in it that should be seen by as many people as possible, so I’m reposting much of it here on the blog.
Basically, we all know about the horrible fires down in Sand Diego a while back. I know we here in California were greatly concerned about the whole ordeal. Us in LA were lucky enough to get by unscathed, but it seems that not everyone in the community came out as good as we did.
Steve Piccus, an extraordinarily talented and gifted hypnotist and renaissance man, who some of the greats such as Rick H., David DeAngelo, and many others have learned enormous amounts from, has suffered a serious setback due to the San Diego fires. Apparently, the fires practically burned a circle around Steve’s place and it seems that only luck prevented him and everything he has from being completely destroyed. It has also decimated his personal consulting/hypnosis/treatment business as his clients dissipated after what happened.
To do my part to help this legend in the community, I’m adding his website, www.stevepiccus.com to my Links section so bloggers everywhere can hopefully find their way to his services. But I am also reposting the information Major Mark put up on Cliff’s List about the seminar he’s holding in benefit of Steve and he hard times he’s going through. So if you’re interested in attending and helping Steve out, you can register online at Major Mark’s website right here. Or, you can call Cassi at 419-882-8543 to register. Any questions or comments can be sent to Cassi@trucor.com.
HEY GUYS, THIS IS IMPORTANT!!!
The recent fires in southern California had a Bad Effect on a friend of mine — he was driven out of his home by the encroaching flames, and his income was torched by the massive social disruptions.
Well, friends help friends.
I’m going to be in San Diego for the weekend of February 20-22, 2004 to do a three-day gig to raise money, to help a friend. I’ll be teaching what might be best described as a Marknosis Sampler — key lessons and techniques from three of our most popular seminars. In this our only West Coast appearance for 2003/2004, I’ll be leading the group through a fast-paced sampler of inductions and exercise from our three top-selling recent seminars. Not for the faint of heart, we’re going to rip through changes in your beliefs, behaviors, thoughts and sensations until you’re basically intact, just massively enhanced with the ability to take control of your life and DRIVE!
The intent of this seminar is really two-fold — I have an opportunity to teach a series of high-impact exercises without a whole lot of wrapping them in a philosophical framework/convincer strategy. Think of it as Marknosis without the training wheels. I’ll be using an in-class approach that gets the attendees performing/experiencing advanced trance phenomena much faster than ever before. And the second reason is that in doing the first I can help out a good man who needs it right now. Altruism and enlightened self-interest, all in one.
Day 1 is the heart of my Introduction To Marknosis seminar. It all begins with the key lessons and behaviors you need to master to become in control of your thoughts your feelings and your behaviors. You learn the latest in powerful self-inductions, learn to release all stress on command, summon positive resources at will, utilize Deep Trance Identification, build in an automatic Journaling process, build an assortment of Trance triggers, and then venture out to do the Holy Trinity exercise at night.
Day 2 is the cream of our most challenging seminar, Designing And Imprinting Your Own Belief System. Building on Friday’s base, we sort out what you REALLY believe from what you THINK you do, show you how to irrevocably shatter the past’s hold over you, work through a set of beliefs that will work for YOU, and imprint these so deeply that you’ll swear they’re your own natural way of thinking!
Day 3 teaches you how to integrate your new thoughts, feelings and behaviors into a lifestyle, through Conditioning For Permanent Change. Anyone can have an experience inside a seminar room. The trick is two-fold — how to make any highly desirable change become permanent for you, and how to make the process of positive incremental change itself become your default state. Day 3 features Deep Trance Identification with your Other Selves, designing your New Self, introduces Conditioning With Pleasure, and creating your own Alphabet Of Desire.
Attendees get two bonuses as well: Learning To Love It — this is the incredibly relaxing, soothing and compelling induction that we use to condition subjects to absolutely, resolutely and permanently LOVE
the process of changing themselves into the Self of their dreams. Studio recorded and mastered, this CD is the cutting-edge in preparing normal humans to become extraordinary individuals. Hey Baby — You know all
those times when you hesitated for a moment, and then the moment was gone? Strap yourself in then, because all those disappointments are a thing of the Past once you’ve begun training with Hey Baby, the induction that puts some ooomph into your Desires and makes you impulsive about getting what YOU want! Studio recorded and mastered, on CD.
Sometime during the weekend we will also be doing three of our new ”demonstrational” installations — the now infamous Cottage of Memories, the Charisma Generator (using the profile we created during the NYC
Master Hypnotist Looks At Seduction seminar), and a spanking new one that automatically sucks negativity out of you as an ongoing process.
This weekend is shaping up to be exactly what we get the most requests for — high-impact hypnotic conditioning exercises one right after another, all suitable for transforming your Self or for conditioning others. You’ll get to learn how to do some Way Cool Hypnosis, and you’ll get your desired changes by default as well.
Cost is $595. Cheap! Register online at http://www.store.yahoo.com/trucor/, or call Cassi at 419-882-8543. Send mail to Cassi@trucor.com with questions or comments.
There you have it. Help a brother out.
Thundercat
mASF on the Upswing?
February 4, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under Drama & Rumors
**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 1/30/04
Back when I got into the community hardcore about 6 months ago, I can remember going onto mASF and reading through a derth of posts, not really getting much from any of it. It wasn’t until I got on Mystery’s Lounge that I found some amazing posts that detailed some of the most cutting edge tactics I’ve seen to date. However lately, I’ve been getting more out of mASF than I have anywhere else on the web. It seems that there are a great many good posters on the board now, and the information is getting to be pretty solid and even, dare I say it, interesting.
All this stuff comes in cycles. I’m sure in a few months it’s going to suck again. But there do seem to be a great many intelligent posters around at the moment who are actually sharing some new and exciting ideas. I plan to enjoy it while it lasts. =)
Thundercat
Power, Directness, Manipulation, & Seduction
February 4, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under Tips & Tricks
**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 1/30/04
Neo-Rio has a great thread going on mASF about the real origins of seduction and how men should act to counter it when it comes to women. It’s a long thread and I haven’t read through the whole thing yet, but so far I like what I’ve seen. You can read it all here.
Thundercat
Vince Runza goes Old School
February 4, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under Rants & Reviews
**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 1/30/04
Vince Runza put up a pretty good post on mASF about the advantages of using NLP in sarges. Most people in the community tend to look down on NLP and pattern languages because it’s either seen as being hokey, too hard to learn, or plain ineffective. But for as much criticism that I have about Speed Seduction, I do believe that there is merit to NLP. Why do I say this? Because I’ve used it before, and it does have an effect on people if done right. The problem is learning to do it right. I think Ross Jeffries, for as much innovation as he’s put into SS, in the long run brings a lot of the misconceptions about NLP upon his system through his rather insecure attitude and horrible teaching methods. The biggest laugh I’ve gotten lately has been from RJ ragging on TD for Tyler’s teaching style being unclear. This coming from one of the worst teachers in the community. RJ has said himself that he teaches based on what’s best for him, not his students, and then he indites TD for basically doing the same thing. Thus is the crux of the issue when it comes to people’s rather low opinion of SS.
But regardless, if one is able to look past the juvenile jerrymandering of its creator, Speed Seduction does have a great deal of merit, and I think Vince explains it ever more eloquently than I could. You can read his thread here.
Thundercat
The First Dating ReEnhanced Workshop
February 4, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under News
**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 1/30/04
I had a talk with Harmless last night, who’s currently crashing at Formhandle’s place up in Boston where the first ever Dating ReEnhanced Workshop is being held. Harmless sounded excited and in good spirits. Apparently, Formhandle has a REALLY nice place up in New England, so even the snow couldn’t damper Harmless’s excitement. He told me that the first night of the workshop (which was on Thursday) went off very well, the only sticking point being that the venue they chose to hold the workshop in was a little too lound. I was told the students who attended still approached and seemed to have gotten a lot out of it. I look forward to getting a few field reports from the workshop that I can post here on the blog.
Harmless also told me of a bookstore sarge he did before the workshop started, and also let it slip that Formhandle not only has a stripper FB, but was angling to get a possible 3-some going with one of her friends. You go, Formie! Wa-wa-wa…
Thundercat
Returning to Online Dating
February 4, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under Rants & Reviews
**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 1/29/04
Because I spend so much time out of my week either at the office or at home, I’ve decided to start up online dating again. I really do not like online dating, simply because it takes so much time and effort, as opposed to club/bar/street game which is relatively fast and painless. However, I may as well put the time I have doing nothing to good use and try and get me some pussy.
The internet landscape is always changing, and it’s been a while since I’ve done the e-mail seduction thang. If any of you guys out there got any tips or tricks, or know of any cool sites that are wirth a visit, let me know.
Thundercat
Good God! Hit Meh!
February 4, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under Quotes & Humor
**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 1/29/04
This is what I look like after a night of hanging out with Roadking.
Ah, the sweet, sweet agony!
Thundercat
Car Stuck Girls
February 4, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under Quotes & Humor
**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 1/29/04
Okay, now I remember why I love the internet. There’s literally something for everybody. Today I discovered a fetish site for people who like to see hot chicks get their cars stuck in the mud. Literally. There’s no nudity, no sex, just girls who’s cars are stuck and they walk around looking all confused and helpless. How hot is THAT!!!!!?????
Anyway, you pervs can check it out here.
Looks like Gunwitch has a new venue to work his magic. And this is even better, because now the girl has no means to get away from him. =)
Thundercat
Another Sign of the Appocalypse
February 4, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under Quotes & Humor
**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 1/28/04
Dear lord, why must us men be made to suffer so? I swear to christ chicks have it easy.
In the meantime, I’ll be in the corner sobbing quietly. =)
Thundercat
Girlfriend Stealer
February 4, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under Tips & Tricks
**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 1/28/04
Thanks to ijjji for pointing this out.
Thundercat
The Audience of mASF
February 4, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under Quotes & Humor
**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 1/28/04
Either this guy needs to find mASF, or he’s one of its regulars. You decide. =)
Thundercat
Making MLTR Work
February 4, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under Tips & Tricks
**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 1/28/04
Sir Italian has a rather nice article on making Multiple Long Term Relationships work. I’m still waiting to get to the point where I can pull something like this off and join the ranks of the MLTR masters such as Zan, Style, and Masterclass, so I found this to be a good read. Sir Italian makes it sound easy. Ah, to be European… oh well.
You can read the blog entry here.
Thundercat
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