Ross Jeffries Responds To Wendi Friesen’s Appology
July 7, 2008 by Thundercat
Filed under Drama & Rumors
So last week I did a Podcast about how Ross Jeffries appeared on Hypnosis Guru Wendi Friesen’s YouTube show and pretty much single-handedly SUNK her ratings and pissed off her audience – so badly, in fact, that Wendi had to TAKE DOWN the show and issue an appology to everyone who watched it!
Well, MINE’99 caught wind of this and decided to spew more of his vile vitrol on poor ol’ Wendi, who wanted nothing more than to have a good show to help promote her hypnosis products.
Here’s the exchange:
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Shameful. You feel you need to backbite me to excuse the utter technical incompetence with which you attempted to do the show and your failure to grasp ideas which can’t be packaged into 30 second sound bites for your moronic audience?The check? I’m explaining to you about the three different aspects of consciousness that need to be cultivated for true success in life, I’m teaching about mindfullness and equanimity and you natter about the check? Shameful,Friesen. Lose my number, you hack.
So this is Ross’s opening salvo. A nice little re-frame about how the poor quality of the show was all Wendi’s fault, and that it was HER who couldn’t possibly grasp the concepts Ross was talking about. He even goes so far as to attack her AUDIENCE as being idiots, which isn’t surprizing since it was the audience backlash which prompted Wendi to issue an appology in the first place.
Ross also tries to reframe sticking Wendi with the check as though he was giving Wendi, a woman who is MUCH MORE finanically and professionally successful than Ross, something of greater value.
After this negative attack, Wendi responds..
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Hi Ross, I definitely wrestled with this. I got so many emails from people asking me why I had you on the show, as it reflected badly on me. I thought it would be interesting and intriguing and would help people to understand what you are really all about, maybe even in a good way. However, with so many emails of complaints I had to respond to my members. The lunch thing, not a big deal, just odd, and straight from your SS teachings. I had to make the apology for my members. They werent hip 2U.
So Wendi is basically explaining that it was the outcry from her members that propted this whole thing. The funny part here is where she says she wanted to "Help people understand what you are really about."
Well, I hate to break it to you, Wendi – you DID help people understand what Ross is really about. That’s why you got so many complaints! The guy is a massively insecure, self-improtant weasel. His techniques are amateurish, his philosophy about women is wrong, and he is just NOT a likable guy!
Wendi saw, first hand, the hurricane that is Ross Jeffries. When he touches down, he leaves a path of destruction in his wake.
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Sometimes a teacher has to take their students beyond what they expect and with what they are comfortable.Lunch? Good God, I was YOUR guest. Politeness dictates that the host pay and you didn’t even offer.
Possessing a vagina doesn’t accord you special privilege. You were the one who showed zero class. And smacking me on the internet when my father is just in the ground? Shame on you for whoring to your students instead of doing what was right. Go away, little insect.
Yet another reframe – saying that it’s up to her to dictate to her students what they should and shouldn’t like. This is another reason why Ross is such a bad teacher. He’s always been about making his students come around to his style of teaching rather than teaching his students in the way that’s best for them to learn. Good teachers don’t operate that way. Teaching is a conversation between student and teacher. It’s a dialogue. Teaching can’t be ridgid. But more so, in a business, you have to listen to your customers, and Wendi is not doing anything but that.
Ross simply doesn’t want to face the fact that it was HIM to misread the audience, and that he should have adapted his style to suit the audience Wendi was exposing him to. But Ross is too much of an ego maniac to believe he should change. I’m also willing to bet that Ross saw Wendi, being a woman, as a target to be trivialized. This is Ross’s M.O. He doesn’t like women! Seriously. He treats them (and all people, for that matter) with utter disrespect at all times.
Now, I do have to concede that Ross has a point about the fact that if
you’re a guest on someone’s show, it should be their treat for lunch.
But I know how Ross operates. When the check comes, he didn’t even
reach for his wallet. He just sat there and ignored the check until
Wendi picked it up. How do I know this? Because Ross does the same
thing with his students!
At least make a guesture like you’re willing to pay, so Wendi can say
"Oh no, this is on me." But that type of social nicety is apparently
too advanced for Ross.
WendiFriesen
OMG, this is now about having a vagina? Having you as a guest is a business venture. I promoted you to my list and my groups, exposed you to 1000s of people who then go to your site. Since you didn’t want to set up a promotion (typically a show host makes their money on the promo sales during the show) you simply got new traffic, I gave up my time to promote you with no upside for me. Marketing is about mutual promotion for events. That’s why "splitting lunch" was hilarious and worth a mention!
So basically, Wendi is now saying that Ross didn’t even allow her to profit from any promotion she made of his products. I guess now I gotta take her side in the "lunhc" argument, since the free traffic and increase of sales for Ross’s products for being on the show was probably going to pay for lunch and then some. No wonder Wendi took the show down. Massive public backlash and ZERO financial upside? Gursh…
Just yet annother example of how freakin’ lame Ross is. He just needs to stop making public appearances. Seriously. He embarasses himself every single time.
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Named the F.J. King, the ship had become a legend within the Wisconsin wreck hunter community for its elusive nature, said maritime historian Brendon Baillod, principal investigator and project lead of the discovery.
“We really wanted to solve this mystery, and we didn’t expect to,” Baillod told CNN. “(The ship) seemed to have just vanished into thin air. … I actually couldn’t believe we found it.”
The wreck is just one of many that have been found in the Great Lakes in recent years, and there are still hundreds left to be recovered in Lake Michigan alone, according to Baillod.
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Built in 1867, the F.J. King plied the waters of the Great Lakes for the purpose of trans-lake commerce. The ship transported grains during a time when Wisconsin served as the breadbasket of the United States. The 144-foot-long (44-meter) vessel also carried cargo including iron ore, lumber and more.
The ship had a lucrative 19-year career until that September night when a gale-force wind caused its seams to break apart, according to the announcement. The captain, William Griffin, ordered the crew to evacuate on the ship’s yawl boat, from where they watched the F.J. King sink, bow first.
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There are about 6,000 commercial vessels on the seabed of the Great Lakes, lost to storms or other issues. In Lake Michigan alone, there are over 200 shipwrecks waiting to be discovered, according to Baillod, who has created a database of these ships over the past three decades.
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“There’s a lot more shipwreck awareness now on the Great Lakes, and people are looking down in the water at what’s on the bottom,” he added. Part of the reason it’s easier to see in the water is thanks to quagga mussels — an invasive species that was introduced in the 1990s. The mollusks have filtered most of the lakes, turning them from their old greenish hue, which allowed for only a few feet of visibility, to clear blue. Now, the lakes have visibility of up to 50 to 100 feet (15 to 30.5 meters), Baillod explained.
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