Mind Of Mystery Is LIVE!!!!!
October 20, 2007 by Thundercat
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Hey guys,
Mystery JUST released his new course, and dang, does it look awesome! Check it out:
Click Here To See The Mind Of Mystery!
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why are nearly all your posts trying to sell us something?
$2397
Wow.
Hold on while I go check my change jar to see if I have enough…
So how long until you (Thundercat) start copying Mystery’s material? Hmm?
I wouldn’t even bother torrenting this shit. Mystery’s material is so old now and pretty much became useless due to The Pick-Up Artist (still waiting for that recap btw). If you guys want a natural approach to meeting women without all these routines and shit, check out Brent (spoke a David D’s DYD seminar). He’s not some poser chode like Mystery.
http://www.myspace.com/absolutepowerdating
Wow, that’s a lot of typos.
I don’t feel bad anymore about getting a bootleg copy of his other DVD set.
Why does every website some guru is hawking shit on ALWAYS look the same? Do they all hire the same fucking webguy or what? One long ass page that repeats the same shit over and over and over and over ad naseum.
“Why does every website some guru is hawking shit on ALWAYS look the same? Do they all hire the same fucking webguy or what? One long ass page that repeats the same shit over and over and over and over ad naseum.”
That would be Thundercat
Rofl, 2000 bucks for this shit. Just take an RSD Bootcamp and you’ll learn the few and simple things you really need to be successful (geting into state, unreactivity, running the train, #1 rule, etc) while having bliss in the field with naturals.
“The glamour is in the game. There is nothing else to worry about.”
All this product is doing is giving people more reason to get inside their heads and be unnatural. 20+ DVDs? That is incredibly hilarious. Does Mystery not know about KISS (Keep it simple, stupid)? It’s so effective.
They all use long sales copy for their products. Boy, this one is not done very well. Spelling mistakes, and way too much crap all over the place. I have to say, once again great timing. Mystery is on top of the world with the fame from his reality show. What a good time to come out with an overpriced product…. Where have we seen this before?
mystery’s ex, Katya, is in jail
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mystery’s ex katya is in jail
the one he was so crazy about that broke up project hollywood…
from satuday night magazine we know her last name (link to thundercat archives where he posts the entire article
http://www.nola.com/newslogs/tpupdat…007_03_13.html
The young woman’s name is Katya Sitnikova. Born in Russia, she’s a 22-year-old part-time model who works as a makeup artist in the entertainment industry in L.A. “I liked that he wasn’t talking about picking me up;” recalls Sitnikova. “Most guys in L.A. ask you for your phone number in the first minute they’re talking to you. But Mystery wasn’t pushy. He was just very easygoing, and he made me feel comfortable around him.”
and from thefollowing link we read about her arrest for burglery in Louisianna….
http://www.nola.com/newslogs/tpupdat…007_03_13.html
“Ekatenia “Katya” Sitnikova, Kristian Willemoes and Patrick LaChute pleaded guilty to burglary and other charges, according to the spokesman, Rick Wood. State Judge Patricia Hedges suspended four years of a five-year prison sentence for each. “….
“Sitnikova, 24, and Willemoes, 26, who lived at the Clearwater Drive address, were charged with theft, simple burglary, burglary of an inhabited dwelling, illegally carrying a weapon and drug possession.
LaChute, 23, was charged with theft, simple burglary and burglary of an inhabited dwelling. At the time of the burglary, he shared an apartment with Moore on St. Ann Street in Mandeville; court records list LaChute’s latest address in Baton Rouge.
Moore, 23, is charged with simple burglary and burglary of an inhabited dwelling. She did not appear in court for her Nov. 30 arraignment, and the court issued a warrant for her arrest.
Of the four, LaChute is the only one with previous convictions. He pleaded guilty to a November 2001 burglary on June 10, 2002. He pleaded guilty to possession of alcohol by a minor April 19, 2004, and he pleaded guilty to disturbing the peace on July 1, 2004; both of those charges are related to a February 2002 incident.
The three who pleaded guilty Monday will be placed on a probation for five years after their release from prison, and they also were ordered to pay restitution. “
Damn. Katya’s in jail?
Ray Gordon would have a field day with this…
Damn. Katya’s in jail?
Ray Gordon would have a field day with this…
Wow, that’s neat.
http://www.frankkern.com/
go here for thundy pic..lol
Another crappy product. Funny how people think MM guys are great. I’ve seen them and been dissapointed so far.
Passion:
What do you mean by people thinking they’re great and you not being impressed?
Do you mean as people in general? Or as PUAs?
I know that Mystery does have people that will say “They’re a bunch of great guys”
no matter how sleazy their marketing is, how much the product costs, and despite Mystery completely showing no love to his own forum (save one post).
Just curious what you were talking about…
(insert joke about TC being fat and a virgin)
The Mystery Method became so popular because a lot (if not most) guys in the community are/were nerds. The Mystery Method is so freaking systematic. Emotions are fluild, not systematic. We can certainly use some strategy at first to get rolling, but at some point you just gotta drop it and reach beyond a systematic system. Mystery himself is nerdy, he talks like a nerd.
Of course MM would appeal to most nerd guys. We want 0s and 1s and they have to add up. Dealing with women is mostly the oposite. It’s freaking fluid! Solid principles are good to stand by, but becoming a computer yourself when dealing with women is just pathetic and counter-everything-we-are-suppose-to-have-learned.
Don’t get me wrong. Mystery is right about a lot of things in his teachings and method, even though some of them are quite repetitive and by now more than obvious as well as patronazing.
Tyler himself stated that he had to sort of re-learn everything he had learned about seduction recently. I think the guy definetely has a passion for the stuff, and he is not in it for the money only. (Or maybe he is, but at least there is passion is making sure the material is right on the money
.
What I have a real problem with is the shady MOTIVATIONS behind Mystery’s business and public dealings, while posing to be an ultra expert and BEST POOOAH IN THE WHOOOOOLE FREAKING WORLD, while the reality is that there ARE much better guys than him, period.
Mystery, and specially his group, seem to be in it much more for the money than anything else nowadays. It really sucks. His marketing letters (Mike Long and the likes) are so ridiculous and pathetic that it insults my intelligence. They are obviously using Frank Kern’ system (which is valid and revolutionary), but in a TERRIBLE way. (For anyone who doesn’t know Frank Kern, he is the guy who made $1.4 million in 24 hours selling the Annihilation Method of Neil Strauss. That was done well though, marketing wise; while even somewhat still keeping Neil’s integrity, even though the whole thing with the Annihilation Method was a little shady too.)
Mystery might make some money with this latest product using these “hyped up language”, although at the cost of his long term reputation. The way he is doing it is sooo obvious and ridiculous.
Mike Long’s letters with stuff like “oh Lovedrop, stop looking over my shoulder” crap is just too freaking goffy and a plain lie. How is anyone suppose to believe stuff like that? If they think Frank Kern got away with the Annihilation Method with some shady but effective strategy, the Mystery marketers really pushed the envelope by not only making up ridiculous scenarios, but also by not delivering a good product, which is ultimately what really matters. I heard this product sucks and it’s far from what it promises. (Remember Mystery, part of Frank’s formula is to make an OUTSTANDING product in the first place). 40+ cds/DVDs and with the type of hype that even my 1 year old would be suspicious is the perfect recipe for killing reputation … Good principles applied badly!)
I have never met the man himself (Mystery), although I’m sure he’d be fun to hang out with as friends. But the people he associates himself with seem to just bring him down, always. And that’s of his own fault.
Unfortunally Mystery’s days are counted. Looks like he is on top of the world right now because of the VH1 show (shall I say with actors and a lot of it faked to the max); but the more he exposes his real intentions (that is to milk as much money from losers who really need help), the world’s relationship with Mystery will turn from LOVE TO HATE REAL FAST, to the point where his own fame won’t get him any women for himself, and he will find himself in a dark room repeating “Who lies more, man or women?”. (Just kidding. I’m sure he will be in Cancun drinking a margarita and talking about his glory days. Or better, dropping the game altogether and going for magic by first making his own hat and goggles disappear.)
Sorry, kind of harsh I know… I’ve been a Mystery fan in the past and have friends who were really into him too. Some of my friends even met the guy at a venue, and were not impressed. Seemed like he was running game on them too. Not genuine at all. Friends of mine who were into Mystery soon realized that the power really went to his head, and he himself forgets that that not so long ago he was a geek himself who lost his virginity at the age 21.
OK. And here is the icing on the cake. Check out THE FOLLOWING article. This article not well known in the community yet, but it sure makes you think! If you’re a hardcore community member the following article is a must read. I’m guilty of
… continuation from the previous post….
I’m guilty ofsome of the stuff in it myself. It’s titled
A Long List Of Ways The Seduction Community Can Make You Weird
http://www.datinggroundwork.com/community
(I hope you’re sitting down while reading it).
Now… In my opinion, the community has MUCH more good to offer of good than its bad side effects. I don’t regret at all taking the red pill by joining the community. I lost some friends over my early weirdness (while making changes) as well as because of their jelously over my later successes and transformation. Success which is not stratosferic, but relative to how I used to be, I definetely have more of a handle of things; and look forward to even more improvement, and always will.
But I have wisen up on some of the gurus out there, and how the missapplicatin of concepts can really &*$%^$ you up. But what really really pisses me off, is how some are being such hypocrites by telling people they are helping, during all the while it’s more than evident that they are in it to rip you off. And THEY KNOW IT!
Nothin wrong with making some money (or lots of it). Just be honest! No need to hype the hell out of oneself by LYING, make yourself look like a god, with very little to show for in the end.
My 3 cents!
Peace.
I’m hijacking this section and is now about the Jeffy Show.
http://www.jeffyshow.com/
http://www.jeffyshow.com/
http://www.jeffyshow.com/
http://www.jeffyshow.com/
http://www.jeffyshow.com/
Just launched today. It looks more promising, and especially since it’s coming from a ‘real’/natural character such as Jeffy, not some chode/fake/nerd Mystery…
“Just be honest! No need to hype the hell out of oneself by LYING, make yourself look like a god, with very little to show for in the end.”
That’s sounds like Tyler. The dude preaches all this self-help stuff while continually qualifying himself. Every 5 minutes on Transformations, he has to remind everyone that he’s a celebrity now and is the best in the world. Riiiiight…
The funniest thing on the dvd, though, is having to watch some old drunk guy’s head in the frame during Tyler’s talk. The guy was annoying the shit out of Tyler and it showed. Way to set an example for the sheep. LOL…….
I can guarantee you that I’m not Tyler, and don’t even care “that” much about him. I’ve actually never met any famous PUA (with the exception of Mehow) who did not impress me even that much. (Game wise most PUAs are “impressive”, but as a person, it takes more to really impress.) I personally have been recently more disappointed in some of the gurus (as well as in myself) for following blindly some of the advice or even “guru” worship per say and discarding others.
In my opinion, the guys to really look at and hear out, who appear more honest, and are teaching Natural Game and evolution as man with integrity are:
Carlos Xuma
Authentic Man Program
diCarlo Diclassified
and some others. David D is alright too. At least he doesn’t claim to be the best in anything and brings guest speakers and interviews everyone. I personally want to learn from everyone and further develop my OWN attractive personality instead of taking on someone else’s personality and spitting out memorized routines and what not. When I started to take on the mentality of improving and searching for MY OWN INDIVIDUAL personality residing somewhere deep inside me, I felt so much better about myself almost right away…
Anyone that claims to be THE ONE and THE BEST, is simply full of it. It’s what Landmark says about our knowledge. Take a pie and draw on it how much about the universe you know… ANYONE could probably draw a slice on it to mark how much they know (probably a small one), but NOONE can say they know everything and claim they’ve reached Nirvana and are fully aware of everything. This applies to PU as well….
Mystery and others who claim to be the best blah blah are not in my book. The ones who are balanced and recognize every guru’s values AND pitfalls, are the ones to get advice from. When it’s all said and done every guru has and had something of good to offer, specially IF it’s taken and applied in the right context.
I have followed the community since the times of Ross Jeffries and I have seen the transformations and changes of overall community beliefs… (Great transformations and mind opening revelations!)
I think something is happening RIGHT NOW where guys are finally realizing that the game is more in the lines of how to become a better man, and how to be a NATURAL… (Yeah, the Natural Game that many were so eager to attack sometime ago). And I’m sure down the line things will keep improving and our consciousness continue to grow even further, where new concepts and awareness will come out.
http://www.vindicarlo.com/neil-strauss/
http://www.vindicarlo.com/mystery-method/
http://www.vindicarlo.com/david-deangelo/
These texts are balanced in their expression of these famous guys and methods. (The bad and the good).
And here I say, only the ones who are open minded enough to accept their passed mistakes and disregard outdated knowledge will continue to improve; while everyone else will simply be stuck and make no further progress. Have as many orgasms with as many strippers are possible… awesome. That’s what life is about? With not much else to say on the subject (even though there is a lot of be said and thought about), I think it’s a pretty limiting view on life and our existence.
Even a man sleeping with 30 women a month or more, there still room for improvement for such a man that goes much beyond being good with women. Looking at guys that are getting lots of women doesn’t mean he is truly a happy and self-realized man. It sure boosts our confidence, which is good for us as well; but neglecting other areas of self-improvement can be part of our downfall in the long term…
Yeah, I know… a bit esoterical.. just for food for thought…
BE OPEN MINDED. ALWAYS!!!
Doug
puadoug@gmail.com
Fuck all this bullshit. Go and BUY THE JEFFY SHOW!!!!
Jeffy Jlaix’s masterpiece
RSD!!!!!!
“That’s sounds like Tyler. The dude preaches all this self-help stuff while continually qualifying himself. Every 5 minutes on Transformations, he has to remind everyone that he’s a celebrity now and is the best in the world. Riiiiight…
wtf lol huh? You either had the DVD on loop for 5 minutes of segment or you’re just desperately grasping for something to attack Tyler on. But wait, what about My$tery and his gang? I mean, there’s nothing wrong with having a TV show that didn’t accomplish nothing but $$$, there’s nothing wrong with his new overpriced rehashed program with shady marketing, and there’s nothing wrong with going public and taking every opportunity to claim to be the very *best* outside his programs?
You’re a joke. Next.
“The funniest thing on the dvd, though, is having to watch some old drunk guy’s head in the frame during Tyler’s talk. The guy was annoying the shit out of Tyler and it showed. Way to set an example for the sheep. LOL…….”
lol wut? The funniest thing about this is that you got nothing worthwhile to attack Tyler on, so you go on ahead and nitpick on something so minor and pointless as a guy not paying attention.
You’re freakin’ hilarious dude! WHAT ELSE DO YOU GOT? HAHAHA YOU’RE SO FUNNY! KEEP ‘EM COMING, CHODE!
Whatever happened to David DeAngelo?
Is he still doing the pickup thing or did he move on to other things?
It seemed like for a while, he was putting put a new product every month.
here’s the reason i dont like mystery.
He is NOT the best. I am. After me, is Hugh Hefner, Brad Pitt, Jay Z, even Scott Baio got MORE chicks in FASTER time. Put it this way, Mystery’s claim to fame is that he # closed Baio’s girl. And scott baio was doing playboy bunnies hand picked from catalogues. ***The reality of such thing is so far beyond the CURRENT PUA standards of greatness***
Scott Baio admitted to Howard Stern that a personal assistant to hugh hefner asked him politely NOT to return to the playboy mansion because some of the girls he was messing with had PERSONAL relations to hugh himself. Damn.
Makes you look at chachi a whole lot different huh? Now, i dont give a f*ck that he is a celebrity. These are the conditions as they exist today, and to call yourself the BEST IN THE WORLD, you have to compete against celebs.
As the world’s greatest, Mystery should look like he’s constantly in a Rap video, with b*tches and hoes constantly around him.
We dont see that now, why? B\c that is an ILLUSION that takes MORE money than he has now. Plain and simple. Don’t believe the truth.
Chew on that shit, dickriders
“Whatever happened to David DeAngelo?
Is he still doing the pickup thing or did he move on to other things?
It seemed like for a while, he was putting put a new product every month.”
He’s done. He’s burnt out on rehashing his material over and over again. Just kinda like what happening to Thundercat (lol, Thundercat), Ross Jeffries, etc.
here’s the reason i dont like mystery.
He is NOT the best. I am. After me, is Hugh Hefner, Brad Pitt, Jay Z, even Scott Baio got MORE chicks in FASTER time. Put it this way, Mystery’s claim to fame is that he # closed Baio’s girl. And scott baio was doing playboy bunnies hand picked from catalogues. ***The reality of such thing is so far beyond the CURRENT PUA standards of greatness***
Scott Baio admitted to Howard Stern that a personal assistant to hugh hefner asked him politely NOT to return to the playboy mansion because some of the girls he was messing with had PERSONAL relations to hugh himself. Damn.
Makes you look at chachi a whole lot different huh? Now, i dont give a f*ck that he is a celebrity. These are the conditions as they exist today, and to call yourself the BEST IN THE WORLD, you have to compete against celebs.
As the world’s greatest, Mystery should look like he’s constantly in a Rap video, with b*tches and hoes constantly around him.
We dont see that now, why? B\c that is an ILLUSION that takes MORE money than he has now. Plain and simple. Don’t believe the truth.
Chew on that shit, dickriders
Hey. U wanna know where Dave D is? Check this shiznit out!
http://getaltitude.com/0/videos.asp?
When I saw it I was like….hmm kinda looks like Dave D! Well, after little while I discovered it definitely is him.
Glad to see him branching off, but still keeping his fans happy by still making newsletters(albeit much fewer and less rich in content) and interviews with gurus. I heard he talked with MeHow recently! I’d like to hear that one. Supposedly, he’s working on a new program called “Ultimate Man”.
Hey all guys waitin for PUA finale recap from Thundy…..instead head over to
http://mehow.tv/blog/?p=77
Mehow gives a brutally unbiased review on the second to last show of VH1 PUA, but if you search for it he reviews each episode on his blog. After reading it it completely changed the way I viewed the show. Mehows blog is much better than this lame ass show.
I saw the recent RSD program. I swear that Tyler looks like one of the hillbillies from “Deliverance.” Just needs a banjo and a country porch.
Somebody should photoshop that one.
“I saw the recent RSD program. I swear that Tyler looks like one of the hillbillies from “Deliverance.” Just needs a banjo and a country porch.
Somebody should photoshop that one.”
RSD students, this is a prime example of someone who is reactive, and has no real sense of reality.
“I saw the recent RSD program. I swear that Tyler looks like one of the hillbillies from “Deliverance.” Just needs a banjo and a country porch.
Somebody should photoshop that one.”
That’s actually kinda funny.
I’m confused: Is David D.’s real name Eben Pagan or vice-versa? He looks like he aged 10 years in those marketing videos.
Hi, I’m stunned by David D. and his new job. But it’s smart, how long can you chase asses. He is about 45 years old and you have to grow up someday. I wish him to find smart wife and fianlly have kids. Stop figthing with people and take your life as it’s. All best to you DD.
Do you know something about Neil Strauss? Is he still in relatonship with his blond sexy rock lady? He should have kids too. Since his book came out and AMethod I don’t know nothing.
I’m glad taht you trying to find truht about PUA. But in this a lie is a truth. You lie to yourself and others to succeed. Can be only one! Bad luck is that it is not real succeeed, you will always lose – your personality, your friends, your love and happyness, finally your life.
Cheers guys!
Eben Pagan is his real name, David D and a couple other rhyming type names are fake.
“He is about 45 years old and you have to grow up someday.”
Where’d you get 45 from? In his original ebook (well before he was well known) he wrote that he was “approaching thirty”(years old).
That book was written in 2001.
I don’t see why he would have lied about his age in his original ebook.
And what would he grow up from? He’s not exactly constantly talking about hitting up the clubs and going out 4 nights a week for 4 hours like Mystery.
$tyle has a new book coming out next month, and somebody on Amazon.com said they read part of it and it’s two books: a journal of stuff that didn’t make it into “The Game” and a re-write of the StyleLife Challenge.
We’ll see. Not so sure I’ll be in a rush to buy another book by the dude.
But Style is he still with Lisa? Please, could someone answer.
“And what would he grow up from?”… You just probably answer to yourself on that question.
Recently I just have seen a movie “Alfie” and “Closer”. Yeap, that is something. Quite deep movie about what PUA guys do. I really like that part in “Alfie” where his older rich women telling to him about her new toy, that it is younger.
Always will show up someone better than we, stronger, richer, younger, more funny ect.
In some part of your life you will see you runnning for unreal life and you are alone, empty and have nothing. That is a big price for that life. Comeone guru dudes why don’t you telling that to other. Why there are always don’t want to tell full truth. Becouse they need to lie themselfs first, after others.
Eben Pagan… nice to know. And Mystery? Erick isn’t his real name too.
All best to you guys.
Pzdr. Sorry for my terrible English, I’m trying.
Well, $tyle is no longer with Lisa, unless they’re together secretly (I doubt it).
People on here said she went out with Robbie Williams (?) after breaking up with $tyle.
I hear what you’re saying about guys just trying to be players and never growing up…
but David D has had long term girlfriends. When he filmed his original Advanced series, he was talking about his girlfriend then and even the possibility of him being married.
I know for a fact Style is not with Lisa, as I hung out with him in NY this past summer. He dates a LOT of hot girls though, so his game is still very tight.
is the mind of mystery be available to download from a torrent?
its already available on torrent dumbass
url ?
There is not such a thing as a PUA material that cannot be found in private trackers within 3~5 days of public release
But then again why downlaod MM stuff… MM method is dying slowly
save your ratio !!!!!
How can i look for such private trackers ?
You are all my bastard children and I kick all of you in the ass.
Glad to see the “mechanistic 0-1-0″ linear seduction crap is going down the tubes.
You know, had I just gotten laid in college, none of this would be here.
RJ
93/93
Please can anyone give me the name of a private tracker where i can find The Mind Of Mystery. Thanks in advance.
I havent seen it comming by just yet. urlurlurlurlurlurl
Private tracker would be great, if anyone cares to share I’ll take it as well.
seduction private trackers aren’t for chumps. Invites for these sites require application and i guess most of these people reading this shit are all chodes anyways
Yeah mind of mystery is 7.6 gigs, what a waste of bandwidth. You guys are better off with RSD
RSDNATION.COM
please can someone send me un invitation code for Seduction.gr . Please guys i need this – badboy_23@abv.bg