More On The Underscore Banning
March 21, 2006 by Thundercat
Filed under Drama & Rumors
So for those of you who care about the fact I got kicked and banned from the Underscore Lounge, I’ve learned a little bit more about the reason behind the banning.
I got this email from jlaix…
jlaix writes:
You claim that you "like" me, yet post some fucked up review about me?
Suure.BTW Nick and Tyler had absolutely nothing to do with this. I thought you were cool once, but I am no longer your friend. Your blog sucks.
-jeff
So here’s apparently what happened…
The Lounge does an internal audit, and I get vouched for by 4 people, 2 more than what’s required. But then, Jlaix comes out and leads a charge to have me kicked.
I don’t visit the site too often, so I don’t know about this and don’t defend myself. Eventually, Jlaix gets enough people on his side to kick me out.
It looks like jlaix did this because I posted an RSD workshop review on my site that didn’t feature him in a very favorable light. You can check this post out here.
So instead of taking his anger and frustration out on the poor guy who actually wrote the review, Jlaix targets me for retribution in some rather juvenile way.
I never had a beef with Jlaix, always liked the guy. But when it comes down to it, instead of emailing me or calling me up personally and saying "Dude, why would you post a review like that?" and actually bother confronting me directly, he decides to take the passive-aggressive approach and try to get all his friends to turn against me.
I guess this shouldn’t be a surprise, since it’s the same tactic Tyler uses all the time (just read The Game to see what I’m talking about).
It’s unfortuneate that Jlaix couldn’t be a man and take up his beef with me, he had to go behind my back and get me kicked out of a tight-knit community I was a part of for 3 years because I featured a bad review of him on my site.
So sad.
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You, Thundercat, posted “reviews” from losers who should not be in the game til they fix their defects. Losers will always come up with ways to avoid personal responsibility for their lack of game and will find clever ways to blame others. That’s why if you take 5 others who attended the same workshop and you’ll have very different opinions.
Since you didn’t support your homies (the winners that is) and unfortunately played the role of “impartial observer” and ended up giving some lamefuck time to air his clever “responsibility avoidance review”…. you was deemed disloyal and was booted out..
No one likes fuckers who are disloyal…. who play the part of “impartial observer”. No one’s impartial & you either support one or the other. You gotta support people who are winners…. who has worked hard to accomplish something and has a history of habits that result in their success.
I just stuck my undersized penis in Ross Jeffries’ nose.
It was a splendid experience!
You guessed it right folks. Juicy Butt is no other than our favorite super stud Ross Jeffries.
Is it okay if I let the people know the only women I’ve fucked are my relatives?
WHY THE FUCK DOES EVERYBODY TALK ABOUT FUCKING PEOPLE IN THE ASS AND MAKING PEOPLE SUCK THEIR DICKS
I’M SENSITIVE TO THIS SINCE MY FATHER MOLESTED ME IN THE ASS SO HARD ONE TIME THAT I COULDN’T SHIT FOR A MONTH AND ONE DAY I VOMITTED MY BACKED UP SHIT DURING RECESS AND ALL THE KIDS MADE FUN OF ME FOR THE NEXT 8 YEARS.
SO STOP IT GUYS JUST STOP IT
Thundy
This blog is turning into a joke, seriously man you need to take some action.
It’s no wonder most of the losers who post on here can’t get laid. Geez.
SN
Wow.
Simply wow.
…
That is all.
wow
simply wow
eat a dick ho
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that is all
SN,
You are still reasoning from a perspective of scarcity.
It’s not a matter of flaming on this blog OR getting laid.
It’s about flaming on this blog, having a great time, AND getting laid.
Capice u homo?
Probably because they’re only 16, retarded, or are secretly frustrated closet case Friends of Dorothy. Notice how they’re obsessed with fucking guys in the ass, not women.
SFDSD, Why are you feeling neglected or something? Are you jealous cos noone wants to fuck you up the ass?
Ask Alessandro to help you out.
motherfucker.
Oedupul incest too… No wonder your family tree don’t fork dude. Try extending your gene pool some, your next generation may develop thumbs, but maybe that’s as likely as you fucking girls.
It’s like one guy. He keeps coming here obsessively every day posting posts about being gay. It makes you wonder about him. The posts may have been funny the first couple times but now it’s just annoying and gay.
You’re probably right, though. Hes just frustrated that he can’t close women. He just hasn’t figured out yet that it’s because he’s a homo and really likes men.
hey homies, just for the record everyone here reckons i m ugly, right? but get this i just put my photo of me brushing my teeth on amihotornot and get this apparently i m a 2! a fucking 2 homes. so see i have got game motherfuckers!!
The “annihilation method” is most likely a sad runoff of someone elses idea. If you’re gonna learn from some guy who learned his game from the likes of Mystery, R.J. and Juggler, why not just go learn from those guys. Style isn’t a PUA just because he wrote a book about it. He’s an author of a book about PUAs. Don’t confuse the two.
that explains it
>Here’s the thing though.. he refused to demonstrate any sets whatsoever.
Exact same thing happened to me. I was astonished at how they were getting
away with taking hundreds of dollars from people this way. It blew my mind.
They would just tell you to stop treating them like “dancing monkeys”.
>In fact I was so upset with the way things were going, and the complete lack
>of caring by my instructor, that I actually left the program early one of those
>days, with no desire to continue. It was so bad, I was tempted to not even
>attend day three at all.
2 out of the 8 people who were attending the RSD workshop I went to didn’t
even show up for the third day!
>After this complete waste of money, I emailed TylerDurden the following
>day, stating my concerns, giving him a chance to somewhat remedy the
>situation. His replies contained the context of “We have your money now,
>and there’s nothing we’re going to do for you.” In fact, I didn’t even want
>my money back. I would of liked a second bootcamp where things are
>done right.
I also contacted TD stating I wanted either a refund or another workshop with
him, Geoff or 26. He agreed saying he would give me another workshop. He
hasn’t responded to any of my e-mails or calls. Their business is fucking
corrupt.
I’ve done about 1,000-1,500 sets in my life and I can tell you if you have any
game whatsoever you will definitely not get anything out of it. The
instructors I was with (Jlaix, Mike, Christoph) could communicate about as
well as my sphincter. They just couldn’t be normal with girls. It was weird.
Their sets would last about 5-10 minutes max because girls would go to the
bathroom or straight up walk away from them. I was vibing and generating
attraction with girls a lot better than them so they really couldn’t give me any
advice. I was the biggest waste of money I’ve ever paid for.
learned from Mystery and Style, and I think RSD is, ummmm… not good. I saw it all come together and the last time I was exposed to it, it was Tyler’s and Papa’s baby. Both Tyler and Papa are cool guys IMO but they weren’t particularly successful or skilled when we hung out, yet they were already taking on students. Blech.
-Maddash
http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?action=retrieve&grp=4&mn=1106128365202580
More evedence of TD being a FRAUD
I think Neil Strauss is counting on everyone is confusing the two. Thats why hes going on all these shows as a PUA. He’s trying to get massive social proof and use his author status about PUAs to game chicks.
It would sure be nice if a bunch of the Guys who knew him personally all got together and called bullshit publically. This fraud needs to be called out.
Pickup Girls Made Easy
Look guys there are now hundreds of gurus teaching this system or that. They make things so complicated you would think you are studying to be a brain surgeon.
They all say things like “I don’t care how old you are, what you look like with my course you will get laid like there is no tomorrow.” Or Pick up women like a rock star regardless of your age, how much hair is on your head, or the size of your bank account. The problem is these guys don’t really believe what they are teaching.
I, Elvis Preston King, am old and fat with a less than desireable bank balance and I get more hot chicks than a rock star or any other pua on the face of the earth, bar none. When I am invited on to a forum the same guys who say that anyone can get laid by hundreds of girls say that “it can’t be, Elvis can NOT lay girls like he says he does because he is old and fat. So why do they say anyone can do it then. To sell their courses that don’t work that’s why! If you want to see me get put down by these so called experts go over to Thundercat’s Seduction Lair and look around. The fact is if they are laughing at you, you know for sure that you are on the right track. They laughed at Henry Ford when he came out with his first car. They hollered by a horse. They laughed at Calvin Ayre on the Gambling forums and now he is on the cover of Forbes.
The fact is to make sure that I have tons of girls in my pipeline. I talk to as many girls in a day as I can. It’s easy guys. Forget the bullshit. Forget learning and memorizing all those openers. I just walk into a set, give a girl or girls my phone, smile like Hell and walk out. This blows the girls minds. If one is attracted or curious as to who the Hell I am she will call. I say as little as I can. Hell, I am not great conversationalist. And I am SHY! I see so many guys talk themselves out of getting laid. No girl wants to be interviewed by a loser who can’t get laid. Foget that boring conversation that nobody wants to hear. Get in get out. If I click with a girl and she is positive towards my high speed seduction I invite her to go NOW. My phone rings off the wall. So much so that I had to hire a secretary. You see I haven’t enjoyed bullshitting girls since I was sixteen. I enjoy getting laid and nothing more!
You boys keep studying complicated bullshit and you will never get laid. Of course, if you make enough complicated openers and keep throwing the shit on the wall that they teach you, you will eventually get lucky. But with the Elvis Method you get laid like a rock star.
I put on ONE on ONE workshops where I hold your hand and pick up and seduce girls right in your face. At the end of the night you will NOT go home with a phone number in your hand and your dick in your hand. You will come home with a hot babe in your arms. I never fail. Join my group at http://www.msnusers.com/BachelorDreamTours.
If you want a free pointer or two just ask. I will try to help your miserable average frustrated chump ass. Loverboybachelor@yahoo.com
See you in the movies.
Elvis Preston King,
The World’s Greatest Playboy
Hey Elvis, i think i speak on behalf of the community when i say…
…SHUT THE FUCK UP!
Thank you Elvis for yet another P.A. announcement.
Im not sure if you realise this, but if you ever want to be good at picking up girls one of the first things you’re gonna want to learn is to stop shoving shit down peoples throats (no pun intended).
When you go into your NOW HEAR THIS mode, the brain of the reader automatically shuts down and disregards whatever comes after. The same with women. You can’t seriously believe that going up to a woman and being all pompous and assnine like that is going to bed her. What makes you think it’s going to be the way to get people to listen to you here?
You have to learn subtlety. Shit maybe you need to come out with me and my wings and we can learn you a thing or two.
Otherwise quit writing robotic posts about what ONLY YOU believe and start posting those Field Reports. Shit you got a wing and can even get him to get one of those hidden cameras to record a pickup you do and post it up on a private blog somewhere. Of course you can always just post a FR instead. If you want to make some money, dude, you missed the boat. The adds ruined this blog’s quality and turned it into flamewars and Im sure I speak for all the serious guys still left when I say, Please just stop. Be one of us if you want but stop pretending to be better. It has unequivically backfired.
The difference between you and the other gurus is the FRs and the Proof. You have one FR that 1 person other than yourself wrote.
~If you want people to listen, give them something to listen to.
Well there you go Elvis. Your actually starting to sound like someone who has something valuable to offer people.
I had actually thought of one on one workshops myself. And how much more effective they would be etc.
To bad you gon fuck it up with your stupid previous jibber jabber. Now everytime people see a post by you, they’ll just think:
Not that annoying fucker again…
There goes your shameless marketing doughboy.
It has left the building so to speak..
By the way, you should really knock it with that “The Worlds Greatest Playboy” shit.
You see, I’m starting to like you less already Fat Elvis.
Yo Elivs
SHUT THE FUCK UP. NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR YOU CRAP. GO AND TAKE SOME VIAGRA YOU OLD FUCKER.
I too have felt RSD rept me off. I asked my instructures to show me examples of a good appraoch and jilax kept on saying he isn’t no ones clown and said it was best for me to do them….
WTF dude, i paid all that money and u can’t do what i paid for?
Anyways, i can’t complain, it was my fault, i let them con me. Now they have my money and can’t do a damn thing about it.
buyer beware of RSD.
Here is a list of the top KJ’s of 2006 from fast seduction:
Random Samurai
Knightstriker
Jettiger
Troll
legion5
n3rv1
ijjjjji
Killswitch
I agree that random samurai is a KJ. I tried to read his post on high,low and neutral values and found it terrible. What is worse is the fact that the guy has a high ranking on fast seduction so un-suspecting newbs read his shit thinking that he knows his stuff. Eventually they learn better.
Can someone please come and do me up the arse?
The author of the book Rich Dad Poor Dad Robert Kiyosaki suggests that if you are going to learn from someone learn from someone who is already successful at what you want to learn.
You don’t ask someone qho lives in a house barely breaking 100k to teach you how to make millions of dollars.
The same should be said then for RSD. If they are unwilling to do pickups in front of students and would rather Reframe than Perform perhaps they are not a reliable source of learning afterall.
My Idea about this community id that the guys who get good go out and are satisfied being good. The guys who aren’t very good or who might be getting moderate results are the same people who are setting up workshops and Methods of learning.
Of couse most of the representatives of this community, the quality ones anyway, may post but lost interest after the inflood of marketing and AFCs proclaiming themselves PUA after moderate successes or even VERY little success to speak of.
Now we got people like RSD, Style, Shark and a few others who are in essence setting a horrible example to others of what a pickup artist is supposed to be. People in this community need to be more responsible about shit. Style was the biggest of the fuckups opening the door to every AFC and his brother to participate in what was once a rather “underground” community. Now the only option is to stick to posts and methods from people like Ross Jeffries, David DeAngelo, Mystery and Juggler, Swingcat and any of the others from the days of old with quality information. You can probably do well with one of the 5 I mentioned. Steer away from any of these new guys like RSD or Fidentia or Shark or Style or whomever because they are essentially teaching what others before them have taught. You are getting a watered down method from people who may not at all be what they claim.
Reading posts at mASF or other boards can be dangerous as far as personal improvement since so many Bandwagon AFC-PUA wannabes have joined and the amount of quality information is all but diminished.
However, I would suggest checking out the mASF Players Guide and The Archives of various Guru’s from days of old. There is a list on one of the pages but it is somewhat difficult to get to. Do not confuse these with the mASF board Archives. The ones you want are zipped files of people like R.J., David Shade, Mystery, Zan, Juggler and a few others.
Ignore ANY and ALL of the rest of these people who have recently shown up on the scene. There may actually be a couple guys around who have good information but keep in mind they have learned from others or are simply overstating their game, add to that the fact that it is almost impossible to filter them out from the countless wannabes and it’s simply best to focus on older stuff for the time being.
It’s too bad.
When I found this community a little while ago it was still a decent place to learn. Now with the advent of Style and his minions the community has been flooded with what can be referred to as -CRAP.
For serious learning
A – Read the Players Guide first at mASF
B – Read some of the srchives that I spoke of
C – Find a particualr method you like from those individuals and study up. Don’t be swayed by other people’s opinions concerning various Guru’s such as R.J. or Mystery. Make up your own mind. I will say for one that done properly Speed Seduction is a quality method, but somewhat difficult to learn. Juggler, Swingcat, R.J., Mystery, David DeAngelo are probably enough to get you started. After that you can probably see for yourself what is for real and what is just marketing or bragging.
I hev no idea what prompted me to post such a long post but I did it so fuck off!! ;oD
I would say that Geese has just been very kind to all the chumps.
I would disagree on one point that is the player guide. I think it’s an outdated piece of crap. Yeah it’s got some nuggets of gold, but it’s missing some huge chunks.
mASF is full of peeps who are really trying to APPEAR good. The KJ list posted above are examples of these peeps along w/ many others, e.g. Starlight, Ox, Thrillseeker, Parisio etc. You can just detect it from the post. They care more about there status in a internet message board then real life results
Ox is even doing workshops now and if you read his FRs, you can see that even he considers himself as barely intermediate and reliant on fools mate.
there is A LOT of bullshit in this community. RSD is merely a small turd in the toilet.
Jlaix talked to another girl for about 5 minutes and then she left. She ran to her friends saying “ewww. That guy said he would do —– if I kissed him so I left.” At the end of the night none of the instructors sets were going that well. Jlaix ended up talking to a girl that was approximately 5’5” and 250 lbs. All Christophe could say was “she’s not sleeping in our room tonight”.
Just came here to let you guys know that RSD is not bad. It’s good. I’m the new head guy there. Papa doesn’t run the show anymore.
Just got back from my interview with David D. We talked about how to get a girls attention by farting. Very important concept. If you master this, you are well on your way to mater how to meet girls while taking a shit.
beast wtf dont you see the blatant homoerotic undertones of thundercats blog.
Beast wants to fuck people up the ass unconcsiousaly ive done NLP and ericksonian hypnosis this is a freudian slip
When woman is telling bullshit she requires hard animal fucking or I put my dick in her eye. My wife tells:
“Franco. I have never felt this way before. you cannot be controlled”
Betazing attempts increaee. You must invert 101. There is not a chick on the planet who will not attempt betaisation process. She is the kind of LSE chick who makes you marry her, makes lot of children with you and then runs to the bar to be fucked by bad guys. But i have social, physical and mental dominance over.
http://www.franco-seduction.com for book and more info.
Franco in Riga
J, dude.
You can’t keep telling people I’m your RSD side-kick; I told you on another thread that I only train mPUAs.
I fucked somne toothless old crone last night so I think I’m now a gmPUA. My game is way too advanced for AFCs.
I’m so fucking good I’m setting up a rival RSD (Random Samurai’s Dipshits). Bootcamp will cost $10,000 to reflect my level of expertise.
Mystery is a good PUA, but his five-for-five challenge – I can do TEN-for-five. Yeah, I’m that fucking good.
I taught Mystery all his card tricks and we used to hang out all the time ’til that fucker Style swanned into our lives.
Don’t let all that pretentious waffle I post on ASF fool you – I’ve got real game J. I may sounds like a quasi-intellectual precocious little prick but I got pussy to spare.
J, Mystery told ThunderPants to remove his name from the Top PUA list, and I’m going to ask you to issue a public declaration stating that you and I have no commercial affiliations. Tyler is a twat and I do not wish for my name to be associated with his shitty little organisation. Papa is OK but he’s incontinent and leaves wet patches on my furniture.
BTW – I’m scouting for Exec Instructors. What you’ve got to ask yourself is: have I ever got laid without the use of Rohypnol (JLaix’s preferred method)? Family doesn’t count. If the answer is yes – you’re hired.
Oh, Gunwitch endorses my Course (How To Be An Ugly, Irritating Little Tosser And Still Get Laid). He is going to be my PA.
Peace.
Yeah guys, Random Shitstabber is the real deal. His seminars are amazing – he explains the pros and cons of trying to meaningfully engage with people blatantly taking the piss out of the sorry little fucker.
Now where did I leave those donuts?
Haha u guys are crazy.
This is great!
Someone should just murder a PUA. Seriously, then thundy would have something to put in his blog.
“The author of the book Rich Dad Poor Dad Robert Kiyosaki suggests that if you are going to learn from someone learn from someone who is already successful at what you want to learn.”
Lol great example since he was dirt poor when he was pretending to be a “make money” guru and getting his books out.
He’s a fraud who GOT money by telling people how to make money. And his book and these rich dad and poor dad were made up.
Too bad you’re full of shit.
Thundercat,
You got banned for one reason and that is because you got caught fucking a Las Vegas whore with Swinggcat. That was the only girl you’ve ever had sex with. Now stop posting fake Mystery reports on your blog. Btw go to mystery method.com and signup for our program. Our guys are the best. You’ll never see a refund request or bad review because we don’t care if there are refunds, we will refund you all. In fact, we get half of our students posting refunds because we welcome it because of our 12:1 student instructor ratio; however, half don’t request a refund because we still have a tight crowd of guys, who personally interned with me and who have studied all of Mystery’s Materials! My MM Challenge to Thundercat is to attend our bootcamp.
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