Where ASF Philosophy Went Wrong
August 29, 2005 by Thundercat
Filed under Drama & Rumors
A guy named sanik posted a pretty thought-provoking entry over on mASF which pretty much calls into question the current mentality of most pick-up artists…
sanik writes:
Credit to Stephane for "All game is inner game"Hey guys, well not that i’m back ill POST my thoughts on why a lot of guys have been feeling incongruent and why a lot of the shit that we do in the community fucks guys up. Don’t get me wrong at all this place is the money and its helped me TREMENDOUSLY getting over limiting beliefs and becoming a more open person but with all its Pros… it came with its cons. So lets get into this.
THE PROBLEM WITH FAKE IT TILL YOU MAKE IT
Imagine this for a minute… lets say you get a huge cut on your chest by accident and you don’t go to the hospital to fix it, instead you decide to go home and put on a fresh T-shirt even though the cut is very deep and it will most probally get infected if you don’t treat it, you still decide to put the shirt on. Mean while you go through your day as usual but the cut is getting all nasty and green and shit underneath your T-shirt and no matter how hard you try and say "IT ISNT THERE, ill just GO CHANGE MY SHIRT" even though you keep bleeding all over all your clothes clothes, THe cut remains.This is the metaphor, lets say you have a problem meeting and approaching women for example and your hole life you have been shot down and rejected and had oneitis and then one day you find a site that says… TAKE ON BEHAVIOURS OF SUCESSFUL PEOPLE… SAY THIS, DRESS THIS WAY AND HAVE RELAXED BODY LANGUAGE AND ON TOP OF THAT FORGET YOU EVER HAD A PROBLEM BLAME YOUR FAILURES ON YOUR SKILLSET.
Do you see how this can fuck you up you keep on putting on that T-shirt but you still bleed on it because inside your still fucked up, your inner-game is still indefinately fucked up how will you expect to ever heal yourself. Will you heal yourself by boosting your ego by saying if I fuck 2000 chicks I will love myself, will you feel validated when someone responds well to your game, will you FEEL better when you are like these seduction heroes you idolize? why do you idolize people like TD or Mystery, what do you think you will get from this type of lifestyle.
Ill tell you what you will get a fucked up heart, a head full of insecurity that you supress, validation centered existence a materialistic outlook on life and inevitabley many nights of masturbation until you learn to lie well enough and FAKE not likeing someone and on top of that extremely mysognistic outlook on women.
INDIRECT GAME IS BS its for insecure people who our AFRAID PUSSIES., Social conditioning is a JOKE, YES hot girls get approached a lot and they will act all bitchy and shit… But do you really want some…. "LIEING, CHEATING, BARBIEDOLL BITCH WITH LOWSELF-ESTEEM" or would you rather have a nice, honest, pretty girlfirend that gives great blowjobs?
my inner game is so tight now that I don’t need to go up and bullshit my way and try to combat ASD like some fucking ninja or Demonstrate Higher Value hahahahahahha, Demonstrate Higher Value???
DOESN’T THAT FUCING PRESUPPOSE THAT YOU HAVE LOWER VALUE IN THE FIRST PLACE, WHAT A FUCING JOKE ROFL!!!!
I ROLL UP I AM HONSET, RESPECTFUL OF THE FACT THAT THESE GIRLS DO NOT KNOW ME SO I MAKE THEM FEEL COMFORTABLE.
I tell girls I find you extremely attractive and I’d like to get to know you and I go from there, If they are not interested I find SOMEONE WHO IS. I REFUSE TO MAKE PEOPLE TRY TO LIKE ME BY BEING SNEAKY AND TRYING TO RAISE BUYING TEMPATURE… Oh my god what a croc of shit…
anyway guys this is the hole thing, fix up your inner game dudes.. read great books, become comfortable in your own skin love yourself and your body no matter what is looks like or how you used to be, and just be cool be naturel, don’t fake shit.
I do think that people who try to be dishonest and portray themselves as something they’re not will eventually be revealed. All to often, the whole "Fake it ’till you make it" mentality can do more harm than good, because the guys who partake in that mentality know, deep down inside, that they’re being dishonest. Because of this, they’re always worrying about getting "caught" and being "revealed." And when things go bad for them, they can sink into depression and frustration.
I am of the mentality that lots of guys really have to learn what’s holding them back from getting what they want and focus on fixing that before they try to achieve what they really want. You have to create a "lifestyle" around which you’re comfortable and is conducive to getting you the goals you want. This month’s SeductionLair.com’s interview with PlayboyLA focuses a great deal on this, and for those of you who are interested, you should definitely check it out.
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