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The Game: Penetrating The Secret Society Of Pick Up Artists

August 29, 2005 by  
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006055473801_aa240_sclzzzzzzz_Well, it’s been talked about for years, my friends, but 0-hour is soon upon us.  As you all know (and if you don’t, you’re going to find out right now), Neil Strauss — also known as Style, the most powerful of the Jedi — has been writing a book for the past couple of years about his experiences in this underground seduction community of ours, and on September 6th this book will be released to the masses.

Not only that, but on September 1st, Primetime Live will be running a special on Neil, his book, and the community on ABC.  I understand the full hour of the show will be devoted to Neil and the community, and will feature people like Mystery and MINE’99 (who apparently claims he can get any guy laid, but whatever).  You’ll also probably see the Cliff’s List seminar on there since Primetime Live filmed that seminar.  I hear the guys from Pick-Up 101 in San Francisco will be featured briefly too, though who knows what makes the final edit.

Since Primetime Live is based on ABC, you can definitely expect a "pro-feminist/anti-men" stance where they try to show both sides of the story (the benefit of learning pick-up vs. how women "really" respond to it) while missing the whole point of what this community tries to teach entirely.  The fact is that most women will respond to the tactics we use, but if someone comes up to the right after we use them with a camera and asks "Would you sleep with that guy," the answer would always be "No!" simply because the girl doesn’t want to look like a slut on national TV.

As for the book, I personally cannot wait to read it, mostly because I was present for a great deal of what is documented in it.  I’ve known for a long time now that Niel is undoubtedly one of the biggest success stories of the community and one of its most skilled seducers, so to get this inside look at his failures, setbacks, success, and ultimate triumph in achieving his goal will be really eye opening for me.  And for those of you who love the community drama, there probably won’t be any shortage of that in the book too.  Here’s the Amazon.com summary of the book:

Reviewed by Amy Sohn
I never dated Neil Strauss, but I dated guys
like him. Like many New York women, I have always gone for balding,
pale guys because they’re grateful and good in bed. But a few years
ago, a distraught Strauss decided he was a loser with women and set
about transforming himself into the world’s greatest pick-up artist. The Game
is his long, often tedious but hilarious account of how he did it.

This
ugly-duckling tale will affect different readers in different ways,
depending on their degree of cynicism: some will be awed by Strauss’s
ménage-à-trois snowball scene, while others will suspect it was cribbed
from a third-rate porno Strauss watched in his pre-macking days.When
his story begins Strauss is, well, a Neil: an unconfident,
self-described AFC (average frustrated chump). He is also, it should be
noted, a well-known rock critic who penned porn star Jenna Jameson’s
autobiography, leaving one wondering just how pathetic women really
found him.

After paying $500 to join a workshop for aspiring PUAs
(pick-up artists) led by a magician named Mystery at Hollywood’s
Roosevelt Hotel, Strauss becomes addicted to pick-up technique. He
trains with several PUA gurus, including Ross Jeffries, a hypnotist
rumored to be the basis for the Tom Cruise character in Magnolia.
With his brains and dedication, Strauss renames himself Style and soon
becomes a master of the game—able to get sex from beautiful women who
once would have run the other way.But The Game doesn’t get
really interesting until Strauss deviates from his NC-17 Horatio Alger
story and tells what happens when he moves into a Sunset Strip mansion
with a group of other PUAs. He starts to see the misogyny of the sport
and realizes that most of its leaders had miserable childhoods. The AFC
who became a PUA to understand women ultimately becomes an expert on
men.

As Strauss grows restless to talk about things other than number
closes and phase shifts (the book’s glossary is a juicy read of its
own), the mansion loses its appeal and he reluctantly grows up. When he
meets a tough-talking band mate of Courtney Love’s named Lisa and they
bond over music, we can guess where the narrative is headed. In the
book’s final pages, he dumps onto his bed all the phone numbers he’s
collected and tells Lisa, "I’ve spent two years meeting every girl in
L.A. And out of them all, I chose you," which is like telling your
mother-in-law that the Thanksgiving dinner you had last year at
Applebee’s was nothing compared to the one she just prepared. But for
some reason, Lisa doesn’t flee. I can only hope that in the inevitable
2007 movie version, starring Jack Black and Kate Hudson, Lisa throws
the numbers in his face and leaves him for a guy who knows how to pay a
girl a compliment.

Amy Sohn is the author of My Old Man, which was just released in paperback by Simon & Schuster, and she writes the "Mating" column for New York magazine.

Note that the "2007 movie version" is a bit of a joke.  There very well may be a movie about this book (I believe it’s already been optioned) but I don’t think there are any plans for it right now.

Regardless, The Game is going to be a fantastic read.  For those of you who don’t know Neil’s work, he also wrote the biographies for Motley Cru, Marilyn Manson, Jenna Jameson, and Dave Navaro.  This is the first book Neil has written that’s fully about him, so it’s a bit of a departure from his previous works, but that should make it all the more interesting.

I highly recommend you preorder your copy of The Game now so that when the 6th rolls around, it’ll be waiting for you in your mailbox.

You can get your own copy of The Game here.

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Comments

4,007 Responses to “The Game: Penetrating The Secret Society Of Pick Up Artists”
  1. tingly1 says:

    Truth stated:

    “As for your double bind situation, I think most women would just abstain from sex,

    TINGLY: Bullshit. That would mean the END of the human race as we know it. On a lighter note, women STILL love dick just as much or more than men love pussy. They’re going to fuck SOMEBODY. And since attraction IS NOT A CHOICE, then they’ll fuck whomever makes ‘em feel good…or whomever calls them on their bullshit. Period.

    ***

    rather than fuck a guy she isn’t attracted to.

    TINGLY: Women fuck guys they aren’t attracted to all the time when they fuck guys who have money…just because he has money. Not for personality etc.

    ***

    Just b/c you cockblock her from sleeping with some guy doesn’t mean she’s willing to jump in bed with you.

    TINGLY: Bullshit. Yes, it does. I’ve set up an opener to where a woman either has to choose ME or look like a hypocritical, stupid slut. And you KNOW how much women HATE being labelled THAT. And this can be done within MINUTES of meeting her. This generates MASSIVE attraction I’ve found…AND it has a slick way of making making a woman prove herself to you…because she feels SO invalidated.

    Don’t believe me? When I get the money, we’ll go gaming together and I’ll show you how to get a number from the FIRST 10 women you approach within 2 mins. a pop by using a similar strategy/opener.

    ***

    Maybe if she’s extremely LSE, but most women I know aren’t THAT messed up.

    TINGLY: This shit works WONDERS on confident, strong, HSE, independent women. Period. Hell, it works even better on THEM than LSE women. Kinda like hypnosis works better on SMARTER people than DUMB people. And since women are basically ass-backward with how they think…YES, they are THAT messed up. ;-)

    ***

    The last thing I can say is that you can’t control attraction.

    TINGLY: Yes, you can. Attraction is an emotion like any other. If I slapped your mother (just an example) you’d get pissed and kick my ass. Basically against your will. The same holds true for attraction. You can DELIBERATELY make a woman want to fuck you when you know WHAT to do and HOW to do it…PLUS have the confidence to pull it off.

    ***

    If something is attractive, people will want it. In this day and age of instant gratification, most women will not be able to resist a guy that arouses her and makes her feel good…….

    ….b/c deep down, they are selfish…..

    ….and don;t want to deprive themselves of those feelings……

    …..and that’s the…….

    -Truth”

    Tingly

  2. Truth says:

    Tingly, I’d love to learn how to set that situation up where the woman would choose a guy she isn’t attracted to. You definitely have my curiousity going. If you want to explain how you do it, I would love to learn. If not, I totally understand, since you don’t want some wanna be guru ripping it off and taking credit for it. However, this is a new concept for me….

    ….I definitely have been in that situation before….

    …and could be there again….

    …and I’d love to know how you handle it….

    ….and that’s the…

    -Truth

  3. tingly1 says:

    Hey Truth-

    Stealing people’s shit seems to be the popular thing in the community.

    I already gave the generalized version above. Smart guys (like yourself) can put two and two together.

    What would I have to say in order to make this chick put her foot in her mouth? What’s cool is that you can do this in about 3-5 mins.

    The lay will come when it comes. Could be right then. Could be a couple days from then, but rest assured the lay is COMING. Sooner than later.

    tingly

  4. massive_rage says:

    I am curious too.

  5. massive_rage says:

    There’s also a double bind where you ask a woman why woman prefer meeting men on the internet rather than having a stranger approach them. You can come up with some bullshit story about there being a large majority of woman being out there looking for love on the internet, but end up meeting the wrong type of person and loose opportunities in real life situations.

    This makes you the desireable guy because your a stranger she has just met and not some internet geek.

    Is that what you guys call a double bind? Correct me if I have misled myself.

  6. raysmom says:

    You’re a virgin arent you ray

  7. echelon says:

    I thought i read somewhere that Amber from the DYD mastery seminar who knew the whole lot of techniques used by PUA’s was still responding positively to C&F by an AFC….i dont think women will even realise what a guy is doing with tension and all distracting her even if she reads the book.
    I guess thats not too much of an issue

  8. The Distinguished Gentleman says:

    “i dont think women will even realise what a guy is doing with tension and all distracting her even if she reads the book.”

    Yeah man, you’re right on with that. Any woman with a real sense of femininity cannot resist the tension, mystery and intrigue that rises to the surface when she deals with a Man who knows what’s going on for too long. Even if she knows what’s going on, she’s going to want to know what he’s all about. That’s what they do.

  9. Bazooka_Tooth says:

    Nobody is going to give a shit. Least of all women.

    Think about it: when you see a beautiful girl, you KNOW she intentionally took the time to dress nice and put on makeup. Does that make any difference? No.

    It’s the same thing with guys. Even if a woman KNOWS what you’re doing, she’s still going to enjoy it because it’s biologically hardwired in her to respond that way.

    To say otherwise would be like suggesting our biological attraction to a woman wearing a short skirt would be diminished simply because we know she put it on intentionally.

    Now, if you’re a manipulative faker, you may have something to be afraid of. That is, if you’re hiding behind a mask or some bullshit persona…yeah, you might be exposed as a fraud. But if you just ARE, then it’s all good.

  10. massive_rage says:

    I personally think that woman build a persona of their own to mask either their insecurities and/or to scare the weak men away. I’m sure there are other reasons as to why they do that, but those two are the main ones that I know and are of significant importance. Now I’m not saying that all woman do that, but for the most part they have to so that they can survive.

    With that in mind I believe a man can build a persona of his own, so that when he meets this woman who has that bullshit front he can deal with it in the proper fashion by using his anti-bullshit persona to push her off of the pedestal and make her realize that she is dealing with a man and not a toy. This is what is meant when they say to stay in control of the situation and lead it to the wanted outcome.

    People build personas everyday for all types of situations. For example you may be in a pissy mood while walking down the street and have this persona where you don’t give a shit about anyone, but out of nowhere some 72 year old lady falls to the floor 2 feet away from you. What should you do? You can either drop the bullshit attitude and help the lady or you can be a big dick and step over her and keep on walking.

    Personas are good masks and can teach you how to overcome insecurities, but it’s best to limit the length of time you use them. Putting a mask to learn to overcome certain inner issues helps in the long run. As long as you learn from it and then let the mask go.

    Why do you think older woman are more receptive than younger woman when they are approached by a guy? The older woman knows how to screen a guy super fast without a mask because she has experience whereas a younger woman has to screen the guy a while to see if he is the real deal. This is why younger woman are seen as “hard to get”, but if you know how to play the game right then it’s not too hard to inoculate the bullshit front they put on.

    Any questions and/or “constructive” criticism is more than welcomed.

  11. Sponge Roll says:

    It’s not at all hard to game an 18-21 year old girl.
    Infact they’re probably the esiest of all women out there.
    Mid 20′s to Early/Mid 30′s
    That’s slightly harder as they’ve had more experience.
    Then again you can’t even get laid period can you gordon?
    Then you cry about how bad women are because they don’t want you.
    How every guy out there that actually IS getting laid is ‘fake’.
    Always latching on to the dream that other guys might one day no longer have a sex life, just like you have no sex life.

  12. Useless Ray says:

    Older women are desperate. I call them “empty netters,” as in “easy to score upon.” (the term “empty netter” refers to a hockey goal which is scored when the other team has pulled its goalie for an extra skater).

    You are the only one desperate. In all areas of your sad sad life. Boo Hoo

    I don’t even count women older than 24 (and usually older than 21) as conquests. Ever. I may enjoy the sex, but the degree of difficulty is simply not there. If you want to test your game, try 18-21 year-old hotties. If you can get them, you can get anyone

    I thought you like them underage?…like that gym girl. What do you do, read green eggs and ham with them?

    Sicko

  13. falsh says:

    I don’t even count women older than 24 (and usually older than 21) as conquests. Ever. I may enjoy the sex, but the degree of difficulty is simply not there. If you want to test your game, try 18-21 year-old hotties. If you can get them, you can get anyone
    BULL——>SHIT!!!!!!!

  14. echelon says:

    i thought this was about style’s book….
    an idea just struck me…call it selfish or for the self interest of the community if u must but how about shutting down the community for a month or so to prevent a community explosion(as i’d like to term it!!)?? i mean all major sites, newsletters n other services temporarly closed….i might be crossing the line here but even deny its very existence (or become inconspicuous) n Neil Strauss is a nutcase…hahaha…

  15. echelon says:

    Damn u “GOD”. u cud hav lemme live in fantasy land a lil longer!!!

  16. ndog says:

    the seduction comunity isn’t really a secret
    RJ has promoted his stuff all over the media
    from jerry springer to maxum magusine
    DYD RSD and Mystery have all been featured
    Askmen.com claims to have five million readers a month. In an old DYD mail bag some
    one asked “what happens when every one gets this stuff”? David said “so what if everyone gets my stuff”… can’t remeber his explination.
    Hasn’t attraction evolved ever since the cave man?

    Look if too many men learning this stuff would spoil it for everyone it would also spoil it for the teachers too. they can’t sell a dating product that doesn’t work

  17. lol says:

    “Thundercat has my permission to publicly verify that this is me.”

    So you’re saying, in the past, on his very own website, he DIDN’T have permission?

  18. Bob says:

    From what I can gather, several of the insights of this community were first presented by Richard Feynman, the Nobel-winning physicist, in his autobiography in 1985 as a fool-proof method of getting women to sleep with you. It was a simple set of rules a bar owner told him in the Sixties when Feynman complained that no matter what he did, women wouldn’t sleep with him. (Feynman had this problem despite being a tall, handsome brilliant Caltech professor, and a key mind behind the A-Bomb.) Being a scientist by training and nature, he systematically tested the system and found it worked flawlessly, even on the beautiful, well-raised daughter of a fellow professor, but he was so disgusted by its effectiveness that he soon abandoned it.

    That book, “Surely You’re Joking, Mr. Feynman,” is one of the great publishing successes of modern history, selling many times what Strauss’s book will ever sell, yet I would be willing to bet that virtually no one who read that book actually had the curiosity, discipline, or self-confidence to try out the system (which is carefully described in it.)

    Very few people are open to new ideas, and vastly fewer are willing to undertake the hard work of changing their own behavior.

  19. echelon says:

    Wow….thanks for that “Bob”….”Surely You’re Joking, Mr. Feynman” eh??
    time to google!!!

  20. falsh says:

    “This is Ray Gordon. Thundercat has my permission to verify this publicly.

    “I don’t even count women older than 24 (and usually older than 21) as conquests. Ever. I may enjoy the sex, but the degree of difficulty is simply not there. If you want to test your game, try 18-21 year-old hotties. If you can get them, you can get anyone BULL——>SHIT!!!!!!!”

    Translation: he settled for some empty-netter he got with another method and doesn’t want to confront that he could have made better choices.”

    wrong again ray. there you go again making wild generalisations and false assumptions.hahaha

  21. YourFather says:

    “well maybe RSD came of worse than mystery”

    backstabbing weirdos versus delusional lunatic

    i don’t think anyone wins that contest

  22. The Distinguishing Gentleman says:

    Ray Gordon wrote:

    “I don’t even count women older than 24 (and usually older than 21) as conquests. Ever. I may enjoy the sex, but the degree of difficulty is simply not there. If you want to test your game, try 18-21 year-old hotties. If you can get them, you can get anyone”

    Ray, are you really serious? Keep writing those books on Chess there Kasparov. That’s preposterous.

    DG

  23. The Distinguishing Gentleman says:

    “Why? You think seducing empty-netters is difficult? If a woman is in her 20s, divorced, with kids, etc., she’s EASY.”

    Yeah, pretty much. But dippy little 20-somethings WITHOUT kids. Not much harder man.

    Now, here’s the test:

    A successful, independent, intelligent attractive woman. You know, the one that Destiny’s Child keeps writing songs about? They are the catch…and, a damn tough catch at that.

    DG

  24. Useless Ray says:

    Ray

    You are the only empty-netter around here.Everyone knows you couldn’t get laid in a mexican hoe house with a fist of pesos.
    You have NEVER been anything and you never will be.
    Why don’t you write a book on underage children?..seems to be your taste in females.
    I can see you are trying to destroy this board as you have others, already talking about sueing…..too bad the judge knows you are an idiot and failure.
    HAHAHAHAHA

  25. Chaco says:

    BOYS BOYS QUIT THIS BICKERING!!!
    Come to my apartment and I’ll give you all a slow…soothing..backrub..and then I’ll make you a taco with my special sauce, then we can all watch a video together…such FUN!!

  26. Scott says:

    Women rage at book of pick-up tips for men

    http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=22&art_id=vn20050904104008747C800562

    Why are only feminists exposing their views ?. Women are once more potrayed as victims and guys as rapists. I hope a lot of guys will start using these techniques

  27. echelon says:

    Lot of familiar names among the reviews & the reviewers…..

    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060554738/qid=1126094247/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/002-2275067-5752010?v=glance&s=books

    Rank 26 already….can u imagin??? might just turn out to be a bestseller!!
    Man he’s givin out everything!!! I’m usually against this but if u wanna read it buy a frickin pirated copy or something so it doesnt become a bestseller atleast (n he wont get paid)!!!
    The PUG’S aint worried cuz this book is ultimately gonna bring people(=money) to them….

  28. sexy evil says:

    who the hell is Ray Gordon?? And why are some of you ass clown mad about some book??

  29. The Distinguishing Gentleman says:

    From the article:


    “Nowhere from its description do you get a sense of men being helped to be human in an easy and agreeable way,” she said. “It’s not about having any rapport or relationship.

    “We all find somebody who is self-possessed attractive and we’ve all been receptive to charm, no matter how briefly. In a way these courses are helping men to be a bit less useless in their engagement with women, using charm and a bit of ingenuity to seduce.

    “But the only thing that will help them in relationships is empathy and liking women.”

    http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=22&art_id=vn20050904104008747C800562

    You know, I agree with them 100%. Any man who manipulates a woman in such a way is just as bad the woman who witholds sex to keep power for herself or marries a man just for money.

    When I was into learning about women just to get laid, I found my relationships with all women – ONS’ or not – strained and lacking something crucial. Only until I came from a place a love and appreciation did the quality of my interactions with women skyrocket. And, I’m not talking about Love of Sex or even Love of Woman, I’m talking Love of the Feminine.

    DG

  30. The Distinguishing Gentleman says:

    From the article:


    “Nowhere from its description do you get a sense of men being helped to be human in an easy and agreeable way,” she said. “It’s not about having any rapport or relationship.

    “We all find somebody who is self-possessed attractive and we’ve all been receptive to charm, no matter how briefly. In a way these courses are helping men to be a bit less useless in their engagement with women, using charm and a bit of ingenuity to seduce.

    “But the only thing that will help them in relationships is empathy and liking women.”

    http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=22&art_id=vn20050904104008747C800562

    You know, I agree with them 100%. Any man who manipulates a woman in such a way is just as bad the woman who witholds sex to keep power for herself or marries a man just for money.

    When I was into learning about women just to get laid, I found my relationships with all women – ONS’ or not – strained and lacking something crucial. Only until I came from a place a love and appreciation did the quality of my interactions with women skyrocket. And, I’m not talking about Love of Sex or even Love of Woman, I’m talking about Love of the Feminine.

    DG

  31. Chaco says:

    BOYS BOYS

    Quit this bickering. Please come back to my place and we will bake some chocolate chip cookies and we will discuss and share our male energy. Then I’ll serve you up some of my tacos with my special sauce. We can eat in my bedroom, just donn’t get any sauce on my sheets like Gunny did….

  32. Jason says:

    “I’m not talking about Love of Sex or even Love of Woman, I’m talking Love of the Feminine.”

    A very good, important distinction.

  33. The Distinguishing Gentleman says:

    Ray, I’m terribly sorry you feel that way.

    I’ve never had a problem with having women find me attractive and NOT just as a friend – even with this “crap” ideology I’ve talked about.

    I’ve never had a problem with a woman respecting my boundaries as a Man, asking me to buy her shoes, drinks or dinners, lend her money, take her out on expensive dates, bickering because “so-and-so’s” boyfriend did this chump and she wants me to give in. Just being with me is enough for them. I’m honest, I’m genuine and – most of all – I’m very appreciative of women. If I feel like taking them out to dinner, I do. But they in no way oblige me to do so.

    Is sex a goal? Yes, yes it is. I am a Man, after all. Not my highest priority by any means, my highest priority is building a strong bond with her. But sex is important, I won’t lie. The fact is though, Ray, this isn’t a game for me. This isn’t some tactic I pull to get laid b/c whether I do or not isn’t that important. This is me showing the woman who I am and what’s important to me in my life & in a woman.

    Ray, to try to tell me that my personal success with interacting with women (in the way you labeled “crap”) is a mere illusion, an improbable fluke is the height of arrogance and pathological narcissism on your part. I can’t help you with that.

    What I can do is tell you, genuinely, that leading from my Heart in my interactions has proven massively successful and fulfilling. I hope you won’t be so bold next time to question my own experiences.

    DG

  34. Jack Sparrow says:

    Where did I say it was an illusion? I said that men who go for LTRs and Marriage can’t help but wind up beta chumps, because of how women behave. How much evidence do men need before they see this?

    So you’re saying that the act of comitting to an LTR turns you into a beta? You should explain that further, seems too much generalized for me.

  35. LH says:

    Ray Gordon is bitter towards women because women don’t like him. His book is ridiculous. Stop arguing with him, he’s biased and one sided and anything you guys say to him won’t change his views. Everyone just ignore the fool. The more you respond the more you add fuel to the fire and he thinks hes proving a point, whatever that point may be. Why thundercat doesn’t ban him is beyond me. His long drawn out negative posts 20x a day are enough proof that the guys doesn’t get laid.

  36. raygordon says:

    HEAR HEAR!

  37. tingly1 says:

    “Where did I say it was an illusion? I said that men who go for LTRs and Marriage can’t help but wind up beta chumps, because of how women behave. How much evidence do men need before they see this?”

    I WHOLE-HEARTEDLY agree with this.

    I have YET to befriend a man who was a player and got into a relationship…

    …who, didn’t wind up getting dumped, cheated on kicked out of the house, divorced etc. by the chick later. This includes my own cousin whose wife left him for another woman…after fucking a few men, first.

    And mind you my cousin is one of if not THE best “natural” I’ve EVER seen. HANDS DOWN.

    Also, when these men got dumped and tried to get back into the game, they all claimed to either be “rusty” or have totally “lost it” (their game).

    Getting into a relationship longterm and gettng married will make you BETA simply because you’re now in a position to where you want to/feel you have to PLEASE and CATER to the woman to keep her. This is AFC behavior. The same behavior, that would have made her NOT want to get with you in the first place.

    Period.

    The only way that you can have a successful relationship with a woman that you had to “game to get”….is by CONTINUOUSLY running game throughout the relationship.

    And who the fuck wants to have to do that?

    After all…if YOU ran YOUR game…and it was good enough to get her to fuck you…when what make you thik ANOTHER MAN’s GAME can’t do the same thing?

    As the old addage says, “How you got her, is how you KEEP her.”

    And how many women (outside of WARPIGS) do you KNOW you can get just by BEING YOURSELF and NOT running “game?”

    I can’t even think of ONE.

    Need I say more?

    THE GREAT ONE

    Tingly1

  38. John Truth says:

    The reason we’re here is because of the media’s manipulative ways that seek to aid the authorative figures by destabilizing us and keeping us lonely and dependent on them.
    But there are glitches in the media (the internet), and the spirit will ALWAYS succeed in the end.

    Here we are, the REAL men, always fighting against the strain of “wuzziness”. To become independent, free thinking, true citizens of the earth. We are Alpha males in times where fools lead and fools follow.
    Fighting against the lies.

    The majestic voice once put it best:
    “People will come together,
    people will fall apart,
    Nothing can stop us now,
    cause we are all made of stars.”

    -actually that was moby, damn

  39. Kabeer says:

    Hey
    Anyone have this guy – Neil Strauss’s e-mail? Let’s just see what he has to say about the book and the uproar it’s generating.

    Kabeer

  40. nomoney says:

    save ur bucks,you can download ‘the game’ here:

    http://warnet.ws/music/uploads/Neil_Strauss_-The_Game_(www.WarNet.ws)(original).pdf

    it’s the complete book.

  41. Mr. Feynman says:

    Bob wrote:

    “From what I can gather, several of the insights of this community were first presented by Richard Feynman, the Nobel-winning physicist, in his autobiography in 1985 as a fool-proof method of getting women to sleep with you. It was a simple set of rules a bar owner told him in the Sixties when Feynman complained that no matter what he did, women wouldn’t sleep with him. (Feynman had this problem despite being a tall, handsome brilliant Caltech professor, and a key mind behind the A-Bomb.) Being a scientist by training and nature, he systematically tested the system and found it worked flawlessly, even on the beautiful, well-raised daughter of a fellow professor, but he was so disgusted by its effectiveness that he soon abandoned it.

    That book, “Surely You’re Joking, Mr. Feynman,” is one of the great publishing successes of modern history, selling many times what Strauss’s book will ever sell, yet I would be willing to bet that virtually no one who read that book actually had the curiosity, discipline, or self-confidence to try out the system (which is carefully described in it.)”

    For those interested in this book:

    You can read it online on

    http://www.gorgorat.com/

    If you are interested only in the chapter on pickup, scroll down to the part titled
    “You Just Ask Them?”

  42. L8er says:

    So the Feynman method consists of non-supplication, and direct game.

    Makes sense.

  43. Brad says:

    Hey,

    I’ve just created a new blog about Mystery and the Mystery Method – it will cover all aspects of the MM: including negs, M3 model, social proof, canned material, 3-second rule, false time constraints, etc.

    http://www.mystery-method-blog.com/

    Any feedback will be greatly appreciated

    Brad

  44. cygani says:

    Is this site dead?? Last posting 05/06??
    This book woke a few of you up long enough to stop jerking off then what you all blew some chunks about the “Game” then went back to porn and cheetos?
    First of I browsed the book on a bargain stand in the airport and got a good laugh as I instantly related to some the cons I have seen in my 40 years of bar hopping. Then just walked out with it, as I figure the money they save on security more than offsets my taking the book.
    First let me make a note that no one has make a fuss about the new movie “School for Scoundrels” which is a take off on the book with out giving credit. If not then for shit sakes I am going to stop jacking books and start jacking screen plays.. from books.

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