New Shark CDs?
July 14, 2005 by Thundercat
Filed under News
Looks like Shark has just released his brand new CD series over at the www.attractanddate.com site. Here are the details…
- 8 CD’s.
- Coupon for our workshops is included in each order.
- Packed full of seduction training.
- Card transactions handled securely by Paypal.com
- Paypal account not required
- Comes packaged in a plain envelope (nothing written outside)
- Questions about buying CD email here: CD questions
I’ve never met Shark, so I can’t say anything about his skills as a Pick Up Artist, but he sure does have one soothing voice… =)
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Yea man and I dont care what side of the fence any of you guys are on. “Blah Blah Blah… so and so has Cancer or Aids or whatever…”
What does THAT have to do with anything???
Thats just Lame and childish, maaaannn.
I can’t think of a single movie that wouldn’t Benefit from a Lesbian Sex Scene.
Yes, I am a fidentia instructor and I do have an astrocytoma….its a type of glioma. Speaking english I have a primary brain tumor, that typically gives someone about 5 years to live, I’m only 24. Happy? I don’t appreciate having my personal life blown up online, but like donald trump says, just remember to get my name right it’s S-E-T-H.
And for the asshole who is putting my personal life online, I don’t appreciate it.
Looks like Karma biting you in the ass.
Does anyone you associate with in any way (not your company) violate anyone else’s privacy that you might know of? Do some investigation and you might find out that they have.
If they did it to them, and you ignored it because it was convenient to do so, why do you whine when they eventually do it to you?
You sound like an abused woman who knew what her man was about and just thought he’d never hit her.
That’s hands down one of the most ludacris things I’ve heard. I associate with a LOT of people. All people do things that are “wrong”. And from your comment is highly “hobsian” so to speak. You are kind of insisting that knowing people is a bad thing, because no one is a saint. So you are going to have happen to you, things that every other person you know is doing wrong? PLEASE.
Let me put it to you this way karma- karma originated from the idea that if you piss somebody off(say me for example), you’ll be bit in the ass because other people who cared about that person would get you back(for example some of my loved ones). It was never meant to be some humbo jumbo mysticcism until somebody realized they could market it.
Secondly morality comes in multiple forms the two most likely are dogmatic and deontilogical.
Dogmatic: religious.
I’ve always had a problem with people using religion to push their own motives… You can interpret any story in any religion almost any way you want.
Deontilogical: You create your own set of morals…
You’re on this forum, tell me is it MORAL to fuck a girl who is married or has a bf?
So hopefully then karma will come back and bite you in the ass…
But hey, you just associated with me, so by the transitive property….
“Mike” wrote,
“Dreamweaver,another fidentia instructor,is sick with cancer,another lie???”
Dear mysterious Mike,
So you try to badmouth your competition by sharing information about a person’s cancer. (Which is no secret on the lounge.)
What does that say about your character?
Perhaps you ought to be focusing on how you can make a better product and helping people in your workshops instead of stooping so low to reveal information about cancer patients.
You’ve clearly crossed the line.
haha oh for goodness sake The_One. STop encouraging random people to start hosting workshops. Uve got to stop this “every negative comment is by my evil ex colleagues” thing.
And laughing at someone with Cancer….. to report that on here. Shame on you Mike. What kind of pleasure does that give you?
yes mike what are you invincible or something. you might not be so quick to broadcast rumours about peoples private health issues when the day arrives when you yourself find out you ve got some horrible terminal illness you fuckin cunt.
Shark, Seth, The One -
This CD set, does it contain guidelines for full on rapport conversation? I heard the first CD Shark made, and this was totally omitted, something which is to me the most important part of the game: what to say and how to keep it rolling naturally, and getting deeper and deeper and deeper….
Here’s hoping
Just chanced upon this from the latest comments column.
Mike/Xmen,
Revealing such a personal detail about someone else’s life in a public forum is not just in poor taste but also very disrespectful to their privacy.
And since you’ve raised the topic of ‘karma’, it’s nothing but an abridged version of ‘What goes around comes around’.
Remember that next time you decide to open your trap.
To Seth,
I have only one message for you :
LIVE STRONG !
WW
“something which is to me the most important part of the game: what to say and how to keep it rolling naturally, and getting deeper and deeper and deeper…”
yes it has detailed converstaion plans and guidlines to make you a great, irresistible talker.
Is there anyone out there who has listened to it and has any comments?
I don’t think the above two comments were posted by the real Shark or the real Karl.
Shit, why not? I need to know the answer to my question
The Cd set does not have any rapport guidelines. Instead it has Ranko’s view of the world and talks about not excusing yourself as a man.
The Cd set does not have any rapport guidelines. Instead it has Ranko’s view of the world and talks about not excusing yourself as a man. They are quite good.
Well that’s depressing
Any more you can say about it Jacob?
Yo Jacob man. If you do have the CD-set. Please write a review. There’s a bootload of people waiting for one.
You’ll be their hero
Considering nobody named Jacob has bought the CD’s if he is using his real first name he will have trouble reviewing them.
“The Cd set does not have any rapport guidelines. Instead it has Ranko’s view of the world and talks about not excusing yourself as a man.”
His review is MAINLY of the original CD.
There are rapport guidelines in the CD set.
It covers every area of a seduction.
The ability to Break out of your mental prison
Allow you to give yourself permission to be a man.
Break the “Work=sex” model
Understanding how women feel,
Understanding what they feel,
Understanding why they have those feelings,
Understanding what they want,
How most guys sabotage themselves,
Emotion and logic and how they affect us,
Male/female emotional incongruence,
Male female communication.
Women’s genetic programming and your response,
Understanding deep rapport,
How to stop being an excuser
Specific Missions designed by Ranko to help you with each step of the way
Dating guidelines and why arguing in a relationship is a lost cause
Approach exercises
Specific instructions on how to approach
I was reluctant to post a review about Shark’s new CD
set because his first CD has made the second greatest
inpact in my life after Tony Robin’s Personal Power
tapes.
Making my way from a way bellow AFC to a calm,
strategic and experienced PUA in five years was the
greatest and most enjoyable journey of my life.
I have studied and applied an extensive selection of
PU products and I was expecting this new CD set from
Shark to blow my mind.
Well, did it meet my expectations?
Yes and no.
Let me explain, my expectations were very high because
I felt that Shark was going to explain something that
he mentions on his first CD which I think is THE most
important thing. He refers to it as “riding the wave”
after the opener. For those of you who haven’t
listened to his first CD, it’s basically, verbal
game(strong rapport and connection, telling them what
they want to hear and escalating physically)
I’m sad to say that none of that is covered in depth
in these new CDs. Furthermore, if you’ve read Shark’s
posts where he shows total disregard for group
tactics, opinion openers, routines… You’ll be
surprised and disapointed like me, to hear Shark tell
you to approach the guy first in a mixed set and
befriend him before engaging your target.
What??? I’m confused. Isn’t he the one always saying
to approach the girl first?
I have nothing against group tactics and building
social proof and all that, I’ve done it for years, but
I especificaly was looking up to Shark to teach me his
natural direct game. So you can imagine my shock when
he gives one of his missions to go to a department
store women’s section and ask a HB about bars and
clubs to go in the city. I thought it was a joke.
I realize that maybe these exercises are designed for
newbies to get over fear of approaching in the
deshying process and I have conquered my fears long
ago so maybe I’m too advanced for the exercises he
gives.
Nonetheless, I felt like he was holding back on the
outer-game strategies and techniques and even
word-for-word lines. Damm it, as I was listening I
kept hoping that the good stuff was gonna be in the
next CD but I listened to all the 8 CDs continuosly at
once in one sitting and sometimes it felt like an
infomercial for Fidentia’s workshop.
So, in conclusion, his background, his philosophies,
beliefs, mentality, and analogies are all phenomenaly
super fantastic for the inner-game. Unfortunately, the
outer-game presented in these CDs is just not
congruent with his posts, his first CD and what I have
been accostumed to expect from Shark; direct natural game.
Super 7,
You are correct that some of the missions on the CD are designed for beginners. This is due to the fact that most people who purchase products are NOT advanced.
The overall affect of this CD is to change your mentality. As you listen to them, you feel empowered and inspired.
It’s to create a paradigm shift than enables you to not give a shit anymore. (Everything from Shark’s childhood stories to present day is designed to wake people up.)
The approaches-befriending the guy are not Shark’s direct method per se, but rather they are MISSIONS that push the person further one step each way.
Super7, thinks about this: Once you defeat all the excuses inside your head, how much strategy do you really need to approach direct?
There are no routines, no 131 steps, no IUDs, everything then becomes natural.
The CD is designed to shift paradigms so people can get there, while understanding the reasoning behind it.
Cameron
Ps. Plus, can you really ever get tired of listening to the stories about the Ski-team, or the Tennis Coach??
The One,
the Attract and Date CDs are a bait-and-switch product designed to get the beginners in the field approaching and then they will get frustrated with lack of consistent results so they will sign up for a Fidentia workshop.
It’s Okay, I’m a business man myself and I do whatever is best for the bottom line of my business.
I also have a story for you; I remember when I first got my driver’s permit. My mother taught me how to drive in empty parking lots at first and then around the neighborhood so after a few months I was ready to take the road test but my mother told me that I should take a few lessons from a professional driving instructor so that I could learn how to parallel park.
So, I went to the driving school and told the guy that I had been driving for a while and all I needed was to learn how to parallel park. The guy proceded to take my information and told me that I needed to pay for a package of 10 lessons.
I think he didn’t even hear what I had just told him. I left because I didn’t have enough money to pay for 10 lessons.
Later that day I told my friend what happened and he took me to his car and taught me how to parallel park in 5 minutes.
He gave me very specific instructions; first you align the back wheels with the other car, then you turn the wheel this much and back up a little, now turn the wheel the other way and back up some more, now go foward and align the car. PRESTO!!!
I practiced a few times and it became second nature. I thought my friend was a genius for being able to teach me so quick and effortless.
Now,lets get back to the CDs. I was doing indirect game for years and was ready to try something different so I got the original Shark CD and I kept an open mind and told myself I would do the exercises and approaches exactly the way Shark instructed me.
I got phenomenal results but I was unable to close the deal most of the times because my verbal game was all based on indirect stuff like C&F, push/pull, teasing…
Some of them would put up with it but most would get turned off and I could see it in their faces.
I was not being congruent but that was all I knew how to do. Well, eventually I got smarter and dropped the indirect stuff and started incorporating deep rapport and connection strategies along with solid BL, EC and KINO.
I had to figure out most of it myself and I was still running into problems. I’ve developed my direct game by trial and error and being persistent to make it work.
I thought that the new CD set would address all those problems but instead it has Shark telling guys to approach with opinion openers and group theory techniques. Which in my opinion is going to make them even more excusers.
I’m sorry Shark, your original CD was the best and I don’t know why you went in the other direction on this new CD set but you were not true to yourself and you know it.
I’ve heard some other opinions of the CD-set as well. And the above seems to be quite correct. Yes this is the real Alek. Yes a student of Ranko’s… And yes I do feel that if all that is being said about the CD-set is true, then Ranko hasn’t been totally congruent with his own self in creating this CD-set.
So basically… It’s half the shark CD philosophy basically stretched out on as many discs as possible… with brief interludes of excuser missions. Basically same as the ones in thundercat’s book.
Hmm. Guys take a fidentia workshop. It’s the best thing you could possibly do. And get the shark CD. I’m still waiting for more reviews on the CD-set, but so far i’m not impressed.
You know, probably more than anyone alive that even for beginners – direct (sincerely displaying yourself) is the best way to go.
Damn… I can’t believe shark is giving out opinion openers… I feel betrayed.
Super7,
I understand what you are saying.
It’s tough to make an advanced Direct-CD describing what Shark does.
It’s because once you have removed all of the excuser/loser mentality, what do you say?
You can say ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How do you teach that on a CD?
What you can teach is how to remove the excuses.
The openers are not doctrine. They are missions, and just that! Missions to be completed and discarded.
You may view it as a bait and switch product, but it took Ranko 11 MONTHS to do this project. He invested a lot of time into figuring out the best way to slap people out of their comas.
The CDs are meant to inspire and wake people up to live a new life.
To be honest, even I find them inspiring and motivational, and I probably don’t qualify as a beginner.
The One
Ps. If you did purchase the CD, Feel free to email Ranko and ask him any questions.
“I got phenomenal results but I was unable to close the deal most of the times because my verbal game was all based on indirect stuff like C&F, push/pull, teasing…
Some of them would put up with it but most would get turned off and I could see it in their faces.”
Super7 you obviously got many parts of your game handled. Thats good, it is best if you have made your own way. The cd set makes a super confident man out of an awerage excuzer. Use the parts that you need.
Listen to the 8cd part where I talk what a women wants to hear. I estimate that is what you want. The 8CDs are more powerful than the first CD. The attitude you should pick up from them, not techniques.
thechnuiques are not for us, but confidence and attitude:)
On the CD SET THERE ARE NO INDIRECT
OPENERS, you must listen the tonality and the attitude how they are delivered. and their purpose! the purpose!
IF you write them down and read them after studying indirect it may seem simiral but it is tottaly different.
The same way “I like you” seems supplicating if you write it down….
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH INDIRECT. IT IS MADE FOR STUDENTS TO TAKE THEM IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION OF CONFIDENCE…..
I use many of stuff myself, but the EXERCISES are made for students to take them in the right direction. Not all of them I use, ofcourse.
Anyone have a question, just email me
Ross Jeffries is just sooooo gay and weird. SS is a bunch of NLP nerds banging each other, but thinks they are bang HBs in their head. That’s just plain sick and wrong.
shark “attack & mate”…..hahaha
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