Update on “The Game”
July 6, 2005 by Thundercat
Filed under News
It isn’t big news to anybody that there’s going to be a book published on the seduction community entitled "The Game," told from the point of view and based on the experiences of our very own Style. Recently I got a chance to get a sneak peak of this book, and let me just say, it’s going to be one hell of a read.
The usual cast of characters will be involved in the book, most notably Mystery, MINE’99, and some people from Real Social Dynamics. Other characters are combinations/amalgamations of certain personalities in the community. I’m also mentioned once or twice in the book too.
But the reason I bring this up is because the book has actually been sent out to press and will be in bookstores soon! That’s right, folks, it’s actually coming out. I don’t know how it will be received by the general public, but I’d say it should be a must have for anyone who’s studying the art of seduction. Not only is Style "the most powerful of the Jedi," but he’s also the most innovative seducer out there. He’s been #1 on my Top 10 PUA list for 2 years in a row now, and I don’t think that’ll be changing this year. The Game is going to be an inside look at his own struggle and learning curve as he goes from your average frustrated chump to full blown ladies man.
Preorder your copy of the book by clicking here and show your support for Style and the community he’s chronicled. Remember, the name of the game is helping guys like yourselves to improve your lives, and this is a guy who succeeded.






I’m buying it. I have never heard a bad thing about Style.
While looking over the Amazon page, I saw a link to David DeAngelo’s book list.
http://tinyurl.com/cqcpy
Also, is this 34% discount only available through pre-order?
I thought the name of the “real game” was parting rubes from their cash… and there’s no shortage of rubes it seems.
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I thought the name of the “real game” was parting rubes from their cash… and there’s no shortage of rubes it seems.
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You can always get the book from a library after its been out (if that is what you are implying by Style selling the book and not giving it away).
Otherwise… you can basically find everything you need to know free on ASF, various blogs, and meeting guys through L/PAIR
people here can be a bit weird.
they believe that people willing to post on the boards should not make money off anything related to seduction or something.
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There’s nothing wrong with success. But I only came here because I wanted to say what a crock of shit J-laix just sent into my e-mail box.
“Don’t laugh at your own jokes”
Firstly, what the fuck? If you don’t have a smile on your face sometimes people won’t tell whether you’re joking or not. It’s a call it as you see them basis. But in the end you’ll just end up looking like a miserable fuck if you don’t smile at all.
“Don’t say anything that could be construed as an excuse”
So, if you’re tired, lie about it and pretend you’re fine? So, in about three months you become grouchy with pent up emotions which you never let out. The fact is, the sooner you say something you’ve faced it and moved on.
If you have nothing better to say then “I’m tired” then maybe you should go to bed, wake up and get back into the game on form, not with negative thoughts floating through your head like “What the fuck am I doing here? I want to go home. I don’t feel comfortable in this environment.”
I’ve found that in every encounter that I’ve got out of successfully I’ve been comfortable in my environment. There was no pressure and things just happened. That happened not because I was in a bad mood and feeling tired, but because when ever I did feel tired or in a bad mood, I got out of that situation and into a better one where I could regroup and prepare myself for another day.
Abusing yourself does more harm then good.
Evan, he said laugh, not smile ya fool. And pay attention you lame excuzer cuz you all excuzin yourself all over da place. you need ta do sum learnin & ya didnt say nuttin about da book which is fuckin awesome… the book dat is…. not you.
Evan, he gave some good advice in there. It’s not the content that made it bad information, it’s your perception.
“It isn’t big news to anybody that there’s going to be a book published on the seduction community entitled “The Game,” told from the point of view and based on the experiences of our very own Style. Recently I got a chance to get a sneak peak of this book, and let me just say, it’s going to be one hell of a read. The usual cast of characters will be involved in the book, most notably Mystery, MINE’99, and some people from Real Social Dynamics. Other characters are combinations/amalgamations of certain personalities in the community.”
Namely those that “Style” doesn’t want to give free publicity to.
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“I’m also mentioned once or twice in the book too.”
How unbiased of him.
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“But the reason I bring this up is because the book has actually been sent out to press and will be in bookstores soon! That’s right, folks, it’s actually coming out. I don’t know how it will be received by the general public, but I’d say it should be a must have for anyone who’s studying the art of seduction.”
Or any *woman* who wants to understand what game guys have been running on her (or an AFC who wants to know what he’s been losing to). These women will also be *thrilled* to know that the AFCs they’ve been exploiting all these years are going to figure out what they did wrong.
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“Not only is Style “the most powerful of the Jedi,” but he’s also the most innovative seducer out there.”
Yeah, no guy ever got laid before by being a rich and famous writer with a dozen published books, and bios of porn stars and rock stars. He’s so incredibly innovative!
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“He’s been #1 on my Top 10 PUA list for 2 years in a row now, and I don’t think that’ll be changing this year.”
Nice cross-promotion.
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“The Game is going to be an inside look at his own struggle and learning curve as he goes from your average frustrated chump to full blown ladies man.”
Kinda like teaching basketball to a guy who’s as tall as Shaq and built the same way. Style’s a great case study because we know how difficult it is to fix the game of rich, famous writers with backstage access to rock stars and porn stars. His overcoming of this adversity is phenomenal!
The BEST part, of course, is that all the women Style gets never want him for anything shallow or superficial (just like he doesn’t want them for their looks). He knows this because they tell him so!
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“Preorder your copy of the book by clicking here and show your support for Style and the community he’s chronicled. Remember, the name of the game is helping guys like yourselves to improve your lives, and this is a guy who succeeded.”
Seems like there’s nothing more profitable in the world than altruism these days.
this site seems to always have the few same people writing comments that are full of rubbish.
Its like they have nothing better to do than come here everyday talking about people who don’t care about them.
somehow they always take some seduction author and make him out like trying to get money out of people like them is a bad thing.
But for some reason, they don’t complain about the thousands of other personal development authors out there who write books like dennis waitley, robert allen, mark victor hansen, christopher howard, tony robbins, stephen covey who have dozens of seminars that you can pay thousands to attend.
Of course these might all be evil people in their eyes too, but honestly some of the the readers of this blog really think of these dating authors as their peers, rather than just another author and presenter out in the great big world.
i for one will be buying niel strauss’s new book. i ve got one of his others “the dirt” about motley crue. he actually went on tour with them. if you look at his history he s done some very cool things like hanging out at tom cruises house, marilyn manson’s. he used to be a writer for the new york times. i personally can t see how he can be anything less than at least a millionaire maybe much more. if you talk to women about hanging out with A list celebs at their house they will put you in the same status catagory as that celeb. obviously he will be able to talk in detail and at length about his adventures so i would find it unbelievable if he WASN’T one of the worlds top PUA s with his own personal experiences. so sorry afc s i believe a lot of his success is derived from his own ability to project very high status and fame, a bit like mystery. but still i m sure it will be a wicked book, hes a great writer…
This will be very interesting.
Will Style tell the truth, or will he try to make his friends look good? Style posted in the Lounge long ago that Mystery was in a suicide prevention clinic and that it probably wasn’t the first time it happened.
So if that ISN’T in the book then the whole thing is likely make-believe.
REALTRUTH
I’m going to do something that I don’t do as much as I used to, but I’m going to take a stand for some of you guys. Now I don’t mean all of you guys, and I’m not going to seduce you to accept what I’m about to say, so you’re going to have to actually take a few seconds for the reactive emotions to wane before you start to form your response.
Here goes.
You’re acting like women.
You’re acting like women who catfight. Is it any wonder that your presence here is less scholastic and more dramatic? Honestly, do you really care what anyone here thinks about you, or about Joe Schmoe pimp-daddy, book writer?
Write something intelligent about it, but don’t get caught up in the personality game. Seduction is meaningful to me because it’s not a matter of degree, but of Do or Die. Not TALK or DIE. So let’s get some real conversation going here about REAL technique and REAL stories and REAL analysis and REAL sincere consideration for one another.
After all, I’ve had to bite my tongue regarding what label I really wanted to give some of you because I respect the boundaries of good taste, but seriously, would you want women to see you acting like this?
Ultimately, you want to develop a way of being whereby you can say, “Hey guys, love ya, but I’m outta here!” and then only come back every now and then for one of several reasons…
1) To give back to the community that supported you…in other words, help others who are coming up the trail behind you;
2) As a refresher, or to see if there’s anything REALLY new under the Sun; and
3) To inspire creativity by throwing new ideas around.
Ok…one more
4) To share success stories, and answer questions.
Now I don’t really know how to go about doing this, but if the moderator of the blog will allow it, I’ll share an email exchange that happened this week that involves a 9.5 and while I would even say that my technique has been a bit fuzzy, it would still blow your mind.
For real…
Good luck guys, and stop the woman stuff, for your own self-worth and dignity. Please.
Freelancer
Freelancer, you make a great point, but it’s the wrong one for this blog. This blog isn’t a seduction discussion board. It’s more about gossip about the “seduction community” itself. If you look at what TC chooses to post, a lot of it is Sensationalism, designed to get reactions. If you also look at the seduction advice that TC gives, you’ll notice that there aren’t many responses.
Therefore, the audience on this site would rather discuss the community itself instead of seduction issues. Most of us have mASF to discuss actual seduction. There’s only so many seduction boards that people actually need. However, this blog is great for entertainment and sensationalism (which has a long tradition and audience in this country, among both men and women)……
…..and that’s the….
-Truth
Well said Truth.
I really hate it when some reading-impared self-righteous mong comes in here and berates us all for gossiping and taking the piss instead of discussing seduction. Like you said, theres mASF for that shit.
Bring on the next scandal, please!
yeah freelancer truth is right for once. go away and stop trying to spoil our fun. if you want to act all grown up why don t you go and read an encyclopaedia or something. flaming is fun, ain t that the TRUTH.
hahaha sure its is ok to come here to gossip and talk about the sensationalism like these guys even matter to your lives.
But it is also ok for people to laugh at people like Truth and Johnny, Tingly who post long replies here several days of the week and making themselves sound like weirdos.
haha imagine if everyone in the world were like them. That posted their opinions like what they say is definitely the right thing.
hahaha but it is nice to watch them make all this noise around here though.
At least they are enjoying themselves.
hahaha sure its is ok to come here to gossip and talk about the sensationalism like these guys even matter to your lives.
But it is also ok for people to laugh at people like Truth and Johnny, Tingly who post long replies here several days of the week and making themselves sound like weirdos.
haha imagine if everyone in the world were like them. That posted their opinions like what they say is definitely the right thing.
hahaha but it is nice to watch them make all this noise around here though.
At least they are enjoying themselves.
Hi Truth,
I appreciate the sincerity of your reply. It wasn’t the case for the gent who followed. He was more like piling on, as a coward would.
Anyways, it seems I wasn’t clear.
I didn’t say anything was intrinsically wrong – only that those who were gossiping were behaving like women. That point still stands true no matter what the intention of this blog.
Don’t you find it odd that you should be defending yours and others rights to gossip when it’s an activity in which submissive women and supplicating men participate?
Ultimately, it nullifies anything learned about seduction. Like a bunch of girls running around giggling about guys who are making it…both with chicks and with business.
More power to ya, eh? Keep exercising the chatty Cathy muscle – it’s your money and your life.
And that’s the truth…
Freelancer
I am sure many guys will have a lot of crap to say about Style’s book.
How about READING THE BOOK BEFORE commenting on it one way or another?
LOL
Then again, maybe I am out of line….
Reading something before criticizing it?
That’s asking a lot.
Of course people like Truth and Johnny would be the first one to buy the book so that they can read it religously. How else are they going to find points to disagree with on this blog?
Of course they might nooo i wouldn’t spend money on a book like that. I borrowed it from a friend who was dumb enough to buy it
Haha but honestly this supposed “community” interests 2 kind of people- people who want to learn how to attract women, and people who want to SHOW OFF they know the “REAL” way to attract women.
And of course loosers ( probably the majority)
Freelancer, that’s an excellent point, and I have to agree with you.
Jkay, I guess you haven’t taken a HS english class or even a JHS one. I am not sure what country you are from, but here in the US, the whole point of reading a book is to analyze what the author is saying, and to debate the message. If anyone chooses to buy Style’s book, and then actually debates the contents, then he has done his job as the author, and it’ll reflect in great sales.
The dangerous part is if people don’t debate the book. Then it becomes a failure b/c it didn’t fulfill the requirement of a good book, which is to spark some debate and discussion……
…..and that’s the…..
-Truth
Thunderblunt,
What do you make of the fact that Style, whom you revere as the “most powerful of the Jedi” is a huge fan of Speed Seduction(R) and a good personal fan of mine?
How do you resolve your respect for him with his huge respect for me and my work, when you positively HATE me and everything I do and stand for?
And isn’t it just dandy that I’m prominently covered in the book whereas you are not even a footnote?
RJ
93/93
RJ,
Don’t toot your horn just yet, Style is Mystery’s best friend and since Mystery has said on the Double Your Dating Mastery with Women DVD’s about your very own Speed Seduction training, “I see two problems with this way of thinking. And that’s “Speed” and “Seduction.”
You may be prominently covered, but in what light? Maybe he just wrote about you being the godfather of the community with Mystery bringing it to a level where it is now. Unless you’ve read it, don’t post more lies. And if you have, you should be more upfront about it. At least Mystery teaches honesty and integrity with women, you leave us with stories about yourself doing sinister things to David Denangelo’s girlfriend with him in the other room. How do we reconcile that, how do we ever trust you?
I read this this evening and thought that it was a bit of advice many of us – including myself – could heed. Timely wisdom to be considered, especially as public knowledge of “the community” is about to reach its nadir; ‘creative destruction’ demands that some will perish and be found out as others profit and are admired.
“The “Innocent” One’s underlying motivations come from envy of those who act, who live, who want to share. Because the man possessed by the “Innocent” One is envious of life, he is also afraid that people will discover his lack of life energy and throw him off his very wobbly pedestal. His detachment and his “impressive behavior”, his deflating remarks, his hostility toward questions, even his accumulated expertise, are all designed to cover his real inner desolation and hide his actual lifelessness and irresponsibility from the world.”
- Robert Moore & Douglas Gillete, ‘King Warrior Magician Lover”
this half witted Truth actually managed to make up a new definition for books. I pity your english teacher.
“Jkay, I guess you haven’t taken a HS english class or even a JHS one. I am not sure what country you are from, but here in the US, the whole point of reading a book is to analyze what the author is saying, and to debate the message. If anyone chooses to buy Style’s book, and then actually debates the contents, then he has done his job as the author, and it’ll reflect in great sales.
The dangerous part is if people don’t debate the book. Then it becomes a failure b/c it didn’t fulfill the requirement of a good book, which is to spark some debate and discussion……
…..and that’s the…..
-Truth”
Distinguised Gentleman, I think we should reccommend Truth read ‘King Warrior Magician Lover”
Truth i’ll just say that in the US, there are too many dim witted people like you who make up all sorts of arguments to cover the fact that his words have no substance.
It’s just like me saying the purpose of books is to use as decoration on bookshelves and for reading the first 5% of the pages.
Its not others who have something wrong with them, it’s that there is something seriously wrong with you
and thats’s the…truth
Ninja,
You have no clue what you’re talking about. Mystery and Style are different people. Style has actually studied SS. Exhibit A: his “Style’s EV” routine is based on principles derived from SS.
Style and RJ used to wing together, as I’m sure will be described in the book. RJ can also attest to this. Even though he never responds to my posts.
Mystery advocating integrity? LOL. Someone hasn’t actually BEEN to a Mystery bootcamp.
RJFan
The community is a lot closer knit that it appears on this gossip board. RJ not only wings with style but also Papa from RSD. RJ has also recently attended a Mystery Method seminar.
The community is a lot closer knit than it appears on this gossip board. RJ not only wings with style but also Papa from RSD. RJ has also recently attended a Mystery Method seminar.
Its not the community that is close knit. There is no community. It is the commercial instructors in the US are all willing to see what the other guru’s are about.
Its just winging together for a bit, its not like its going shopping every month together. Nothing close knit about that.
Anyway you probably got most of that info from this gossip blog anyway.
These boards attract mostly nerds and people who want to improve their arguing skills like Truth and Johnny among others who contribute no material but complain a whole lot about people that don’t know them.
“The community is a lot closer knit than it appears on this gossip board. RJ not only wings with style but also Papa from RSD. RJ has also recently attended a Mystery Method seminar.”
Just to be accurate: Style is a friend of mine, that’s true. I have not seen or spoken with or to Papa in well over a year and a half. Yes, I did attend a day of a Mystery Method workshop, I remember the date, Dec 18th, because that was the night both of my parents had to go to the emergency room for different medical emergencies. I’ll NEVER forget that day .
RJ
93/93
Whats with the 93/93 ross?
You don’t put any faith in that devil worshipping, animal sex addict do you?
I would be very disapointed in you, and so would your mother…:)
When are you going to put out something new…something on the level of DC2000?
Loyal Subject
Jkay, just b/c you have never read a real book b4, and have never been in an English class, that doesn’t mean that the rest of us haven’t either. If you don’t know the pirpose of a book, then go back to junior high school and ask the teachers. I’m sure they’d help a “special” guy like yourself.
Kualityc, I actually agreed with most of your post, right up until the part where to attacked me. Actually, if you believe this board has improved my arguing skills, then that’s a great benefit and I thank you for the compliment.
However, I contribute my experiences of products and the opinions I have formed of, on the basis of them. Around here, everything has substance as long as A) it isn’t someone trolling the board B) you take the time to look for the substance. There are a lot of guys who troll me on here, but I always try to look to see if they make any great points, and if they do, I learn from those. There is something that we can learn from everyone, no matter how small.
Lastly, I only criticize those products that Ihave tried and not been satisfied with. Therefore, I can only criticize RSD, DYD, and HSM. That leaves a bunch of stuff that I am either satisfied with (Badboy, Gunwitch ebook) and those I have not yet tried and only heard 2nd hand reviews on (Bishop, SS, Fidentia, RSI, MM)……
….and that’s the…..
-Truth
TRUTH what do you mean by HSM?
HSM is High Status Male. It’s an ebook that I bought when I first started, along with DYD. At first I thought it was good, even thought I had never heard of the author before. However, the more experience I got, the more I realized the author probably wasn’t anything more than an rAFC, and that his ideas were nice for beginners, but there was much better stuff on mASF, and it was free.
The part that really bothered me was when he started attacking nice guys. He called them selfish and said they were only trying to sneak in the backdoor, under the disguise of friendship. It bothered me b/c I just accepted this as fact, and I felt bad about being a nice guy. Then, upon further, I realized that that wasn’t at all why i was being nice, and that this guy was making me feel guilty for something that I wasn’t trying to do.
I now believe that most other nice guys are/were just like me, and had no evil intentions about getting a girl through friendship. I think some guys either took what they could get and just wnated the girl to be a part of their life, or (like me) just fell for the girl after they were already friends. I think most guys had good intentions, and it turned me off that this guy was trying to put more of the blame on men than we deserve.
Nice guys may not be successful with women, but they aren’t being nice as some kind of cover-up to trick people…..
…and that’s why I don’t recommend HSM (high status male)…..
…..and that’s…….
-Truth
Truth loves this place so much they will outlast every one of you no matter how much you prove he is mostly full of crap since he will be here every single day to post and i don’t think the rest of you will have the stamina to keep up.
Hey look at how famous Ray Gordon is! He mights be nuts, but most of us have heard of him. No matter what great arguments people post, Ray can just go on and talk about his own thing over and over.
hey TRUTH who lies more, only joking. re HSM i thought that was what you meant. i ve read that. thats the guy that s banging on about TOXIC SHAME etc. i remember it to be really long winded, with some good points but its not great.a bit amateurish (rAFC)… what was you re experience with rsd? did you do a workshop? cos i ve heard TD speak and i thought his ideas seemed quite good (at the time) cos as a speaker he s quite persuasive, but i think in practice for me at least the more direct methods are MUCH more powerful. i find indirect comes across as a bit fake esp in bars and clubs where girls assume that if you even look at them, you want them…
oh great. now this magicmonkey guys asks truth a question that will get Truth ranting on again. Why don’t you ask PUAS for advice instead.
TD’s ideas are quite good because he’s persuasive?? They aren’t ideas my friend. They are just patterns of what goes on in the field. If you see things different from what people like Mystery and Tyler describe, then maybe u should post and teach the world something. because most of us see the exact same things in field.
No real PUA would disgree with most of the patterns that goes on in field reported by the guys with massive field experience unless we have had relatively different experiences.
If i tell you Tyler’s stuff sucks and I am Mystery for example would you believe me?? If you go ” Oh yes, if some other great guru who i respect more tells me this guy’s writings ain’t very good then i will believe him” simply means one thing. You are not a PUA with enough experience and intelligence to have even tested out the material. The good guys never ask if someone’s material is good, simply because they test everything out.
From what you say i’m unsure if you even understand openers well whether indirect or direct. Although i say just use whats comfortable for you. If you can’t seem to learn indirect openers well then use something else, but people like Mystery and a whole bunch of other PUAS use what they use for a reason.
And simply talking about direct and indirect openers just show that u have been sucked into this whole opener thing that doesnt even decide how attractive you are to women. Learn to be attractive to women first and foremost, then you can decide whether your opener is killing you.
No way, you mean you have friends other than your cat Tabbitha Jean? Man, its OK. Its cool man.
Why did Mystery let you in to his workshop, is this why you kiss his ass all over these boards? All that aside for one second, hope your parents are alright. Ok, the second is over, back to the facts……
When a newb SSer decides to unknowingly give Ross an idea he can steal and put on tape. That’s really the only time you’re going to get something on the level of DC2000 which Major Mark rocked on.
samurai with all due respect i was adressing truth not you..
i my understanding of indirect/direct is crystal clear. and yes i DO get laid a lot! do you?
I took one of RSD’s first workshops. I wasn’t really satisfied with it, and eventually I wrote the first negative review ever of RSD on this blog. Since then, many more have been written, but mine was the first. That’s actually why I created my Truth name, b/c I was honestly afraid at the time to be honest and give them a negative review. It’s funny but if I never took RSD, I would never have come here and become a regular, so everyone who hates me can blame RSD.
The workshop has evolved and what they have taught has changed a lot, but most of what was taught to me is just plain wrong. The biggest myth they taught was that you can’t open a woman directly and be successful (which others have clearly proven to be false).
The seminar is amazing though, as Tyler loves to talk and it’s clear he has a lot to say. What was disappointing was that TD only read from his old posts on mASF. He added no new info. and since I had read it all, there wasn’t any reason to take the seminar. AS for the workshop, TD never winged with me or took an interest in my performance in field. 26 ended up dealing with all the lesser guys, and there were just too many for him to give feedback to. Meanwhile, TD worked with the advanced guys, who were already good, and of course most of them have now gone on to teach workshops of their own.
That in a nutshell was my problem with RSD. The advanced guys, who were already good, got all the attention and got much better. I see them being called gurus on this site quite often. I have spoken to lots of other students and they all had similar experiences. There are much better workshops available, and they are much cheaper.
The only other workshop I took was a Badboy workshop. I highly recommend it, as it was a great experience, and you’ll get all the attention you need. As with any workshop, you have to do a lot of work afterwards, but it’s definitely an amazing experience. If you’re considering a workshop, and you’re choosing between RSD and Badboy, Badboy is a much better choice.
Also, if you want to hear a bunch of myths disspelled, it’s also a great choice. You’d be surprised how much of the stuff in this community, even some things talked about here, are just plain wrong.
Also, with all due respect to TD, the most persuasive men, with the strongest frames that I have ever met, have been Mystery and Badboy. A Badboy workshop is an experience that you will talk about forever…..
…..and that’s the…..
-Truth
Truth, its up to you to get the instructors attention if you need help. If you’re a shy guy that’s even shy around other guys. maybe you shoulda handled that part of your life BEFORE you started wasting your money on workshop like a chump.
I’ve met numerous lameases that will NEVER be attractive to women no matter how many workshops they take, be it Bad Boy or RSD cuz they haven’t learned how to relate to people. You don’t need a workshop on how to pick up chicks… you need to get over your ISSUES first.
I happen to think you’re one of those lameasses with issues unresolved. So instead of taking responsibility for your lack of attraction from the ladies, you try and blame it on some guy you paid $600 thinking he can solve all your problems within 3 days.
Did you get 26′s attention and say, “hey, I’m gonna approach this chjick, look and tell me what’s up!!!”?
Did you watch others sarge and did you listen ot the critique afterwards?
Most importantly, do yo go out regularly and try out the material 3 nights a week? How come jlaix can use that material & you can’t eh? Why?
Naw…… I’ll bet you just sit back, like all the K-jayz thinkin some guy yo paid $600 will change you into a stud pooahh overnight sensation.
nothin can top DC2000!!!!! The more you listen to it, the better you become!!!!!!
i hate RSD, they created the psycho nonsensical poster Truth.
Seems to me truth is actually trying to give himself a good reputation now by trying to say certain things are his own opinions instead of everything being the truth now. he might become fair you never know.
Im sure he will go back tying to tell people what books are used for and which seduction material he KNOWS is definitely worth it or not.
And its all RSD’s fault for treating Truth like a looser. That’s their problem, all because that particular student is socially retarded and uncool, i guess its kind of like nerds trying to be big AMOGS or something. Then certain instructors probably just decide to ignore that student more since he is not pleasant.
Judging by his posting of comments, Truth is probably that kind of guy but i totally agree it is unfair to judge a person when he is paying you good money to actually teach him to change since he probably came to you because he lacks those skills.
If you really can’t stand him then you should refund his money and tell him to get lost. Although a student like that will defnitely come onto boards like this and rant for years about you, at least u didn’t have to deal with him personally.
Am I the only one to have noticed the recent RSD pattern?
It’s like in all the latest reviews of RSD there’s guys saying Tyler’s a sweatheart, a fucking saint.
And interestingly enough, they all point out how “there were these pesky students who were trying to AMOG TD…” Followed by a personal message from the reviewer to these guys like “What did you expect acting like that?!? Why do you come there and try to AMOG TD, that’s NOT COOL”…
And then some more descriptions of a mother theresa like TD…
Now… From what I’ve heard TD has actually gotten his act together lately and he really does overally leave a great impression on students. BUT… these reviews and comments make me suspicious to say the least. Specifically the “guys don’t try to AMOG TD” stuff…
Makes me think TD is writing all this, and its basically his kind of an offical excuse for the previous behaviour and pissing off many students. THEY WERE AMOGing him, that’s the reason… Just re-read the above “ryanc” message and tell me you don’t think it was written by TD.
Shit… WTF am I even doing on this website, I promised myself I won’t get involved in this BS again… Blah… Well I guess once a week is ok… (rationalizations taste good)
P.S.
I noticed a reverse proportional link between the frequency of visiting this gossip cave (the comments, not the site) and my sarging abilities. It’s almost to the point of a scientific law now. The less you get involved in this BS, the more laid you get.
THAT MEANS SOME OF YOU MIGHT REALLY WANT TO CONSIDER THE SAME!
“I’ve met numerous lameases that will NEVER be attractive to women no matter how many workshops they take, be it Bad Boy or RSD cuz they haven’t learned how to relate to people. You don’t need a workshop on how to pick up chicks… you need to get over your ISSUES first.”
Au contraire mon ami. It only relates to indirect workshops where everything is techniques and routines. On direct workshops where everything is inner game and relating to people, you DO get your issues solved, you learn to be a more social and cool person in general.
Personaly I took a direct-based workshop. Before it I couldn’t even say Hi to my neighbours and I couldn’t befriend anyone worth a shit. Since coming back i’ve doubled my friends and all acquintances from before now want to befriend me and smile when they see me (they used to frown). I find myself engaging strangers and flirting with clerks, attendants, waitress etc… Shit it may sound silly, but even my relations with my family improved, my mother for the first time in 10 years actually chats with me and my sister hugs me every day and tells me she loves me.
You can either learn all the how-tos and complicated BS (routines, DHV, A1 phases, IODs, FMUIORPGHTFY-s) and alienate everyone.
OR
You could learn to become a REAL MAN and have everything else just fall into place for you naturally.
Peace out…
YOYOYO, it’s true that I was shy when I took RSD, and not when I took Badboy lifestyle. However, this was 1.5 yrs. ago; you probably weren’t around back then. Anyway, when RSD was first starting out, they were marketing to people who were shy, and making lots of outlandish promises. They changed that once they got established, but at the time they had to expect people like that, since they were marketing to them.
I am not blaming anyone for anything. I did try their material out, as I went out 5-7 nights a week and got rejected a lot. Clearly I was doing something wrong, and that leads me to believe that I was poorly instructed. Especially when you consider that guys like Jlaix (who you mentioned above) have been having great success.
However, here is my question to you, why did I not have to say anything to Badboy to get help? I admit I wasn’t shy at all when I took the Badboy workshop, but why was everyone given equal attention? I honestly believe that if I was shy, like I was when I took RSD, Badboy would still have given me the same amount of attention, and maybe even more.
Ryanc, I was pleasant, as no one had a problem with me. I am not sure how many people you have met in real life from these boards. A lot are socially awkward, but you’ll find that almost all of them are nice and pleasant (much different from their online personas).
“Seems to me truth is actually trying to give himself a good reputation now by trying to say certain things are his own opinions instead of everything being the truth now. he might become fair you never know.”
This is the reason that I really chose to respond to your post, despite the insults and flaming. I am not trying to give myself a good reputation. Everything that I have said all along is my opinion. Anything that anyone says is their opinion! Just b/c I say that something is the truth, that just means that it’s my truth. Everyone is certainly allowed to disagree with me, and I might even be wrong about some of the things I say.
I guess I haven’t been able to properly communicate my thoughts into writing, as I am often misunderstood. That’s my fault, and hopefully my last few posts have been more clear than my first few.
My name “Truth” is really what I am in search of. I don’t have an ego, or any products to sell, nor do I even have a reputation to uphold. I don’t mind being proven wrong, and if I am, then that’s great b/c I’m one step closer to what I am after.
Also, you guys need to lighten up. My exit is just for fun, don’t take it literally. Some of you guys act like my name is “FACTS” or something. If you’ll notice, I always use the “…”, which means that my “and that’s the truth” part only relates to my last sentence, which is usually the conclusion to my whole rant.
My “exit” (term coined by Tingly1, so give him credit), is just for fun…….
…..everything doesn’t have to be so serious……
…..you can joke around and enjoy yourself……
…and don’t take everything so literally…..
…and that’s the…..
-Truth
i think you could be right about “ryanc” alek, it does sound like TD trying to shoot down his disatisfied customers’ viewpoints.ie truth. as for making up fake positive reviews, this is very common in business and anyone thats worked in sales will know this.
TD will never post here again, and he banned all his guys from posting here too they aren’t even allowed to read it, thats how he does it in rsd.