Taking about Sex
May 18, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under Tips & Tricks
Back in my AFC days, I used to never talk about sex with a woman. When I did, it was when it was “already on” and obvious the girl was into me (which wasn’t very often, mind you). Most of my talking about sex was with buddies of mine as we sat around the TV drinking beer and waxing philosophical about what we’d do to a girl if we ever got around to getting off our lazy asses and meeting one.
But that’s changed with my adoption of the PUA mentality and tactics. In fact, I can even talk about this stuff pretty frankly now. I’ve been experimenting with it recently and seeing just how far I can go with these subjects. I’ve found that you can actually go pretty far, in fact, most girls respond REALLY well to this type of talk, if you make no excuses for it.
For instance, one of the interesting things is my AFC friend, who I’m currently vacationing with. I see him try and talk about sexual stuff, and then quickly backtrack and negate it as soon as he says it, following up with things like “I’m just kidding,” or “sorry, didn’t mean to offend you,” and the like.
Me, I’ve gotten away with murder. Especially if I set it up right. Usually, this is what I’ll do to lead into it. If a woman talks about any interaction with a guy, like saying “hi” or the guy doing something nice for them, I’ll respond with “Well, you know what Chris Rock says about that.”
If they do, they’ll immediately get what I’m talking about. If they don’t, I’ll explain:
“Well, in his stand-up “Bigger and Blacker,” he talks about how men are so horney all the time, that they only reason they interact with women is to have sex. So why they ask or offer something to a woman, all they’re really saying is ‘Want some Dick?’” And then I’ll go on to use examples from the stand up (go rent it from the video store if you wanna see what I’m talking about)
So usually, after I set this up, I’ll just use whatever example the woman used of a guy being nice, and following it up with “Want some dick?” The thing is, women know the score better than we tend to think they do, and they LOVE this routine. So afterwards I’ll use fallback humor and keep saying “Want some dick?” over and over. I’ll even do it when I first see them again. “Hi, how’s it going? Want some dick?” They’ll crack up.
Of course from there, you can lead into more and more sexual topics. Talk about sexual misadventures of you and your friends. Ask about theirs. Ask them questions of sexual exploits and then talk about your own. Make raunchy jokes and challenge them to do the same. It’s great. I had a girl tell me last night “It’s so great you can talk about this stuff! Most guys are so uptight.” It’s surprizing the reactions you’ll get. And if a girl does get offended, just go further with the sexual stuff and make fun of her for being a prude about it (ie, saying something like “Oh, I see you’ve experienced that before”) and the like.
Honestly, I haven’t been slapped once. Just be sure you do it when you’re in a high energy, fun loving state. That’s very important.
If any of you guys have any experiences with this, I’d love to hear it.
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Hilarious Thundy….I’ve used the “want some dick?” routine for years, even though I didn’t know it was a routine or that you could actually pick chicks up in a bar. The C.Rock special first came out when I was in college, so I’d talk about it with chicks there cause I thought it was so funny. I’d get these great reactions, but always attributed it to C.Rock being funny, never as an IOI (which it sometimes was) or a bridge to something better.
Its only been recently that I’ve figured out what was going on.
Oh yeah, and the best part about this routine is the callback humour aspect of it. Not only will I use it throughout the night, but I’ll also use it as escalation/end game stuff:
If we are back at my place and nothing sexual has happened yet, I’ll sneak up behind her at some point and put my hands on her hips or shoulders or something….then I’ll lean in, and in a FUNNY way (lower voice and a little softer as well), I’ll say “want some dick??” I’ve never not had a girl laugh. Most will say “yeah” in a kind of joking manner, so I call their bluff. I’ll either turn her around and kiss her, or grab the back of her hair, pull her head back and lean over the back of her and kiss (caveman-esque).
Good stuff.
In my experience, sex talk doesn’t work that well with HBs9+ and ladies who work in the entertainment industry (and I don’t mean strippers – acting, ad agencies, fashion, etc). They’re used to everyone talking about sex and usually go “oh you’re so different” when you talk about real adventures or Incredible Connection type topics.
I used to talk about sex when I was an afc, but as I’ve gotten better I’ve eliminated 99% of my sex talk. I find that needy/horny guys do it, and it sets you apart that you can turn her on with attraction instead of blatant sex talk. Talking about sex is so typical.
You are really making a series of embedded commands.
Are you sure it is the sex talk that is being sucessful or could it be the “embedded commands”?
>I used to talk about sex when I was an afc, but as I’ve gotten better I’ve eliminated 99% of my sex talk. I find that needy/horny guys do it,
As with anything, it all depends on HOW you do it. Maybe when some guys talk about sex it smacks of neediness, but when I do it its fun. I’ve never met a girl who doesn’t enjoy talking about sex, done properly. They love a man who is cool talking about sex in a fashion that doesn’t make them uncomfortable or invalidate them in anyway.
>In my experience, sex talk doesn’t work that ll with HBs9+ and ladies who work in the ertainment industry
This could be a caveat. I don’t have any experience in LA. But I would bet girls still like to talk about these things if it pertains to their fantasies or genuine questions they have. I don’t know.
i agree, sex talk can be great but it’s all in the delivery. most guys attempt to move into sex talk w/ all sorts of sleazy inuendo and double entrendres. that tactic can work if you make it obvious and funny. but most guys don’t. and girls think it’s fucking weird. but if you come out with sex talk in a bold positive way, that’s how girls will respond to it, boldly themselves and with a positive attitude.
i also have successfully used sex talk to break rapport. we’ll be talking about some boring subject and then, suddenly, out of the blue, i’ll say something like, “Hey — how old were you when you lost your virginity?” This typically goes over very well. 1/ it’s an interesting question (unless the girl had a bad first time, and if she did, you can use that to your advantage …) 2/ it shows that you’re not afraid to break rapport if something more interesting is in your mind.
the other day, at a bar, my new MLTR introduced me to 7 of her friends, half guys, half girls. they were all talking about work or something stupid. so, five minutes after meeting them, i raised my voice and said, “Who here is wearing underwear tonight and who isn’t?”
First, they looked at me like I was insane. But when I refused to go away, as it were, they jumped right into it, everyone answering and some of the answers surprising some of the people.
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Ha, ha, great stuff you’re doing, man! I really love the Chris Rock standup you are talking about, too! There’s the part where he describes the three types of women when it comes to giving oral sex, which is so money! Especially how he reacts to them!
“1. This first type doesn’t give oral. I get rid of them right away! It’s the 90′s for crying out loud! We had a President that said it doesn’t even count as sex! Get the fuck out!
2. This one gives it a couple of licks (face scrunched up like she really hates it!) and says, how was that? Fuck that!
3. Then there’s the third kind, the one us guys all love, who loves sucking dick!”
Hilarious shit, man!
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