The Dark Side of AMOGs
April 9, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under Rants & Reviews
You know, I think one of the greatest advancements in this Pick-up stuff recently has been the addition of AMOG (Alpha Male Other Guy) tactics. It’s such an important thing to know how to do, because inevitably, you’re going to be engaged in a set that involves men who are in competition to get your targets.
One thing I’m often asked about AMOG tactics are by guys who are afraid of getting in fights with other guys. The fact of the matter is, most guys don’t want to fight. They’re as afraid of getting fucked up as you are, and for the most part, people are civilized and would rather move on and have a good time than ruin everyone’s night by causing a scene. So for the most part, AMOGing is a rather peaceful and effective tactic.
But there are those occasions where the guy you’re AMOGing is such a braindead macho shitbag, that his instinct to throw down overpowers all logical and social reason, that he’s going to want to fight you. This is what happened to me last night.
I was basically out at a club with some friends of mine, and a girl comes up to my buddy (he had opened her earlier in the night) and starts talking to him. I see she’s with a guy, some fuckin’ Argentinian gangbanger who’s got a distinct "drug dealer" vibe to him. You know the type — decked out in Urban Outfitter wear, with a gold chain, and a greasy goatee with a whisp of a mustache like he hasn’t fully reached puberty yet. And he’s sitting at his table, eyeing my buddy like he’s the anti-christ, stewing in his own anger at the fact that the girl he’s with isn’t into him.
So he gets to his feet and tries to step up to my friend with the pattented:
"Oh, what? You’re like a player, motherfucker? You trying to move in on my woman?"
Of course the girl tries to keep him at bay, and like a good PUA, my buddy agrees with him, saying "Dude, you’re so right. You’re so smart and observant. But I could never compete with you, bro. You’re a much better man than I am."
Of course, this guy’s synapses stopped firing long ago, so anything my buddy said would only make him angrier. He started saying stuff like "You wanna step to this?" or "C’mon bitch. Let’s take this outside."
I stepped in and tried to help by telling my friend "Oh, dude, this guy’s too tough. He’ll kick your ass. Best let it go, he’ll drive you into the ground."
Of course, this only enraged the moron more, but now he was fixated on me. He started calling me a "fucking skinhead" and trying to start shit, even though I’m about 5 inches taller than him and outweigh the featherweight by a good 100 lbs.
Security ended up stepping in as he started trying to lay his hands on me and my buddy. But the security at the club was so fuckin’ stupid they didn’t kick the guy out, and he kept following me around trying to start shit. Eventually, his buddy (who was on parole, by the way) had to drag him away to keep the police from getting involved because it looked like things were gonna come to blows.
The thing is, I think most guys need to be ready for this type of situation. I’ve taken martial arts in the past, and knowing how to defend yourself is definitely a plus. Knowing when to walk away is good, but if it’s a case like this where the guys is ACTIVELY trying to fight you, it’s best to stand your ground and be ready to fight.
There are a few things that I think are important to do in these situations:
1. Never turn your back on an aggressive AMOG.
2. Never break eye contact with the AMOG.
3. Position your body so you look like you’re ready to fight.
4. Do not say a single fucking word.
Let me expound on these points a bit…
Point 1: Never turn your back on an aggressive AMOG. Most guys who want to fight you are, deep down, insecure little cowards who feel the only way to recover their self-esteem is to use physical violence. These guys are not smart, they are not proud, and they are certainly NOT brave. If you turn your back on them, they WILL sucker-punch you. And they WILL take advantage of your weakened state. If you have to get away from a beliggerent AMOG, back away slowly as you face him, and only turn when you are a sufficient distance away. But even then, don’t let him out of your sight.
Point 2: Never break eye contact with the AMOG. Holding eye contact is a powerful thing. Some guys may take it as a sign of provocation, but by breaking eye contact, you only enbolden the AMOG to fight you, because he’ll pick up on it as a sign of weakness, and any sign of weakness will make him think he can win a fight. By keeping eye contact, you will create doubt in his mind and make him think twice about escalating things.
Point 3: Position your body so you look like you’re ready to fight. This doesn’t mean "Put your fists up." It means angle your body so your shoulder is facing the AMOG, and your standing at a 90 degree angle to him. This gives him the smallest possible target at which to strike, should he throw a blow. Put the hand closest to the AMOG up, guarding your solar plexus region. This is so that it’s in a position to block any blow he throws. With your other hand, cock it at the crux of your waist, so it’s ready to strike out in retaliation. This not only puts you in a position to defend yourself, but anyone who sees you standing that way (including the AMOG’s sober friends) will know you know how to fight and the dude you’re squaring off with is about to get creamed. They will usually step in just to save their friend from serious injury.
Point 4: Don’t say a single fucking word. This is important, because with brain surgeons like these, ANYTHING you say will be a provocation. Silence can be more unnerving than words. So being completely quiet, when coupled with eye contact and correct body stance, WILL intimidate your opponant, because you are giving them nothing to feed off of. This will eventually create doubt and uncertaintly in them. Remember — you’re trying to avoid a fight here, so don’t say a single thing that’ll fan the flames.
But dispite all this, AMOG tactics ARE good to know and to use. Just pull out your inner boy scout when you use them and always be prepared.
Very sound advice, TC…also, in my experience, the guys who talk the most are usually the least willing to fight.
TowerT
Here are some random stuff I got off selfdefenseforums.com:
With anyone you suspect to be mentally disturbed, try these tips to avoid or de-escalate a contact:
1. Remember his personal space, and don’t invade it.
2. Do not try to touch him, unless you are prepared to fight him.
3. Do not make sudden, rapid, or startling movements.
4. Speak quietly and slowly. Do not shout.
5. Try to increase distance, and get an obstacle (parked car, fence, etc.) between you, as if he is armed it is probably with an edged weapon.
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