Anti-Dump’s Machine
March 23, 2004 by Thundercat
Filed under Rants & Reviews
While skimming through the DJ forums, I found a post that quoted someone by the name of Anti-Dump which I found interesting.
Anti-Dump writes:
You follow the same procedure time and time again with ALL women.This will almost guarantee you success finding an INTERESTED women because it is like having a love machine. Just push a button and there she is…well there is more work than that but you get the picture.
You are now on the Road to ‘The One’.
What he’s basically saying here is, if you have a structure you use when approaching women, you will get results consistent with that structure. So in essence, you are creating a machine which will produce the same outcome time and time again. This is interesting because it’s been something I have been experiementing with for some time.
If you look at someone like Mystery, for example, Mystery has a concrete structure he follows when he’s out picking up women. This structure is pretty much embodied in Mystery Method. I think Tyler has a similar structure. I know Swinggcat has his own structure based on his method of seduction. All three of these guys are very successful with women, I think partly because they’ve found a structure that gives them consistent results, and they are able to not only REPEAT that structure, but TEACH that structure.
As I’ve been getting out in the field more and more and practicing my skills with women, I’ve found there are certain things I do that get good results on a consistent basis, and when I have used those things in tandum with each other, the results I get are not only consistent, but powerful. I am now currently working on creating a structure for myself that I’ll be able to follow time and time again with women. I think this is an important thing to do because when you have a structure, a game plan, you eliminate a great deal of uncertaintany in the interaction. When you already know what you’re going to say and what kind of responses you’re going to get, you’re brain is able to focus on other things, such as visual cues the girl gives you, or the ability to think of how you’re going to adjust your structure depending on outside forces, such as AMOGs and other obstacles.
I think that this is one of my biggest criticisms of SS. Back when I first got into it, all you had to do was memorize pattern after pattern and throw it at the girl. You didn’t really have to think about what to say, it was just: Shining Example –> IC pattern –> Fascination pattern –> Discovery Channel –> Blowjob pattern. When the system was adjusted and you got into asking questions and trying to pattern on the fly, that’s where I think people started seeing diminishing returns on results.
The same thing can be said for Double Your Dating. Though I like what David D. has to share, the fact is it’s a behavioral theory. Cocky and Funny does not give you a structure, it’s more of an internal shift you ahve to make to get a social attitude. You still gotta think about what you’re going to say to the girl, and it relies very much on how interesting of a human being you are (which for some guys is the kiss of death).
What I like about Mystery Method is that when it’s broken down for you, you’re told "Okay, you open with this, throw down this neg if she’s an 8 and these negs if she’s a 10, run this routine, then this routine, then isolate, run this routine, get the kiss close, get the number close, set up the bridge." Boom-boom-boom. It’s the same, every time, with every girl. You begin to know the common objections that come up, and you adjust your material accordingly. And before long, you have a game plan, a machine that is going to spit out consistent results.
And in the end, isn’t that what we all want?
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