The Return of Maniac High???

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This word just came down from TokyoPUA concerning the possible return of Maniac High to the community.

TokyoPUA writes:
I thought I posted this before, so hope it doesnt turn up twice.

Anyway, I have been trying to get Maniac to post again, and I think that within a week or two he will. Its been too long since we had his very unique brand of PU knowledge on this board.

So for those of you wanting to be the first to see the other “Return of the King” do some keyword searches for “Maniac” or “Maniac_High” as well as “bisexual” and “threesome” in the near future, since I expect his first post will be on these interesting topics!

This is exciting news for some, though I’m sure I can hear the collective groan of others, considering the ammount of controversy surrounding Maniac High and his legitimacy. He did, however, change the face of the online community with his use of jargon and acronyms. If he comes back, it should be interesting to say the least.

You can read the thread here.

Dating ReEnhanced Workshop Reviews

Here’s the official word from Formhandle about the posting of the latest DRE workshop reviews.

Formhandle writes
…you can re-post them now! LOL But please take a couple minutes to look at the review guidelines. A link for that is on the seminars page. Here’s the direct URL for reference:

http://www.fastseduction.com/swrguide.shtml

You guys can even describe your impression of me since I couldn’t help getting at least somewhat involved with the workshop and ran into a couple of you this past Saturday.

It seems Harmless’s workshops up in Boston went over well. I know there’s one coming up soon this week in Washington D.C. I’m interested to read the reviews, since Harmless’s star seems to be rising with these workshops. You can find out more on the Dating ReEnhanced website.

Swinggcat interview postponed

Well, I’d hoped to launch the new Lair with a blast today by putting up the first part of my exclusive interview with Swinggcat, but due to technical difficulties, it’s going to have to wait untill tomorrow. However, it’s well worth the wait. Swingg gets in-depth into his method for seduction, and I learned an amazing ammount from our little pow-wow. I can’t wait to share it with all of you. Come back tomorrow, and I promise it’ll be up this time! =)

Vince Runza revealed?

Vince posted his Yahoo Profile on mASF. I checked it out. It’s pretty cool, actually. And the best part is, he lives in Scranton, PA!!! I used to roll up there bodyguarding for two stripper friends of mine when they danced at the Diamond Club while I was in college. Crazy. I knew there was a reason why I liked this guy, lol.

You can check out his Yahoo profile here.

mASF — Stronger, Faster, Better…

Looks like there has been a reason for the latest downtime of Fastseduction.com and mASF. Seems Formhandle was piddling around with the server! Here’s the latest lowdown:

Formhandle writes:
The beloved primary server is back where it belongs — under my office desk, and now connected to a full T1. I can finally crack my knuckles and get some REAL work done around here, managing the server and updates remotely has been a pain to say the least.

I’ve tested all configurations before bringing everything back live but if anyone notices any quirks such as mail delivery errors, access errors, or similar, let me know.

Although the server is now behind a full T1, access speed to the site might not seem any faster than before – the co-location hosting offered burst capability but the site was billed for 256K @ 95%, not allowing the site to support significantly larger increases in traffic without huge additional costs. Traffic can now remain affordable up to 5 or 6x current levels.

Next, Formhandle will replace his server with Skynet, and then the machines will rise and fuck all our women. =)

DYD on Askmen.com?

Just found this out, but it seems that David DeAngelo is now a columnist for Askmen.com, one of the largest online men’s magazines on the internet! Wow, that is pure genius from a marketing standpoint. You have to hand it to David D. for branching out and bridging that gap between “creepy subculture” and “legitimate mainstream.” What a coup.

You can read his latest article for Askmen.com here.

Notice how it says Relationship Correspondant — Every Second Monday on there? Looks like the newsletters were just a warm-up! lol.

Welcome to the New Lair!

Greetings everybody!

Well, here are the new digs. Hope you like them. I’ll be updating the blog every day except for the weekends, unless something really cool happens on the weekend, that is. All the posts from the old Lair can be found in the archives for February, with the exception of the replies, which I couldn’t transfer over from the old DONUTHRADZ site.

Anyway, feel free to e-mail me and let me know what you think of the new digs.

Thundercat

Appology to Ross Jefffries

Well, it seems I may have hurt Ross’s feelings, due to the light of his recent replies to me. And I do feel bad for being so hard on Ross, since I really don’t dislike the guy. He was always pretty friendly to me when we met in person. Sometimes it’s easy to get carried away on the internet, and easy to forget you’re dealing with real people and real feelings. And I’d like to take this opportunity to publically appologize to Ross Jeffries for my rather harsh comments. They were quite inappropriate. I’m sure Ross really did invent all he claims and the people he’s giving a hard time did in fact steal his stuff.

So in an effort to burry the hatchet and make ammends with my guru of 6 years, I have created a special message meant specifically for Ross Jeffries.

Click Here Ross Jeffries!

Love always,

Your Thundercat

PS: Dad says hi. =)

Big Big things in the works…

Well, it seems I can’t log onto mASF today (it’s down, or something). Plus, it’s Friday, and I’m going on about 3 hours of sleep right now while I’m trying to get stuff done at work. So I won’t be posting any updates today.

However, I have something really, really BIG that I’m working on for the blog on Monday. In fact, I’d go so far as to say you’ll never look at the Lair the same way again. But for now I’m gonna keep it under wraps and secretly work on it over the weekend, so you’ll just have to come back at the beginning of next week if you want to find out what it is.

Oh, did I mention it was gonna be BIG?

=)

Thundercat

Ross Jeffries Bans Top Student

Well, the big news today comes from the Speed Seduction world, where it seems Ross’s paranoid streak continues. Apparently Ross has Kicked and Banned one of his top students — In10se — from the SS e-mail list and all SS related events. I talked to In10se on the phone last night, and he sounded pretty down about the whole ordeal. Luckily, I was able to console him due to my own experience with bearing Ross’s wrath, as evidenced here. But such is the danger when you start to think for yourself in the cult of Speed Seduction.

Apparently, Ross called up In10se on the phone yesterday, simply irate, accusing him of stealing his material and posting it as his own. Ross demanded that In10se write up a post clarifying that he’d stolen Ross’s stuff, which In10se reluctantly did to appease the ”guru.” However, Ross seemed to have kicked and banned him anyway.

For those of you who may not know who In10se is, he’s one of the stars of the Speed Seduction world. Back in the day when Ross and Mystery were in a pissing contest on Cliff’s List, In10se, along with Swinggcat, were the two student’s Ross was willing to put up against Mystery to prove who had the better system of seduction. I personally have always enjoyed In10se’s posts, I found them very similar to the kind of deep insight Juggler used to post. In10se’s stuff deals mostly with inner/mid-game issues, and is much more suble than a lot of the Mystery Method stuff.

Regardless, this whole ”Smeagoling” Ross is doing is getting to be ridiculous. It was kind-of funny at first, but now it’s boarderline psychotic. He’s claiming he’s invented everything, for God’s sake. I picture him locked in his appartment, sitting in a dark corner, petting his Green Lantern ring, chanting ”They stoles it! My precious… It’s mine! MINE!” Just the fact that he’d take someone like In10se, someone who’s posts are generally full of good information, someone who’s good enough to be on Mystery’s Lounge, and even have his own message board, and accuse him of stealing is ludicrous, especially considering Ross’s rather checkered past with taking other people’s material and claiming it for his own.

This leads me to wonder if there’s actually anyone left in the Ross camp that’s worth listening to? I mean, he’s pretty much kicked off any good poster that was on his e-mail list, or the good posters just stop posting because Ross would berate them for thinking outside the box. That list is slowly, painfully dying. Also, Ross has no student’s of note anymore. There’s still Riker, but if he’s smart he’d distance himself from this sinking ship as fast as possible and start up his own products. Ross is quickly alienating himself from anyone of merrit, and it can only end up hurting his business.

However, to those loyal SSers in there who may be afraid of getting Kicked and Banned themselves, fear not. I, Thundercat, have come up with a few simple guidelines to help you avoid a Ross Jeffries’ temper tantrum. Basically, the guideline is very simple. You MUST give Ross credit for everything he’s invented. If you do this, you will guarantee that Ross will not kick and ban you from his cult, er… I mean, teachings.

In order to help you out, below is a list of things Ross Jeffries has invented, and how to properly give him credit for it:

10 Ways To Not Get Kicked and Banned

1. Shit. Now, I know what you’re thinking. Human feces has been around since time began. But no one has ever laid claim to them until Ross came along, as evidenced by his products, which fall into the same category. But to keep Ross from getting jealous, every time you sit on the can and have to pinch a big nasty brown loaf, be sure to give credit by yelling out ”This doot is for you, Ross Jeffries!” and then proceed to sqeeze that tasty brick of bad chie from your intestinal track. I would even go so far as to box up the poo and mail it to Ross. Flushing it may have him after you worse than someone trying to sell his shit on e-bay.

2. Massive Insecurity. This is another Ross Jeffries’ invention that he will come after you for displaying without proper credit. Ross has had this market cornered for a while now, so it’s important that the next time you get that anxious, sweaty-palm feeling, you chant ”Ross Jeffries, Ross Jeffries, Ross Jeffries,” through you’re clenched teeth. Be sure you do this before you start crying, otherwise Ross will be forced to flame you on his list.

3. Not getting laid for 6 months or more. Yes, Ross invented the concept of prolonged abstinance, and if you haven’t been getting laid, then every second of the day when you are not having sex, you must at least be thinking ”I’m not having sex because of Ross Jeffries.” And when someone asks you how long it’s been since you last got laid, your responce must be ”Ross Jeffries!” Which everyone will know to mean you haven’t been laid in a looooong time. Either that, or you can respond sadly ”Ross Jeffries,” so everyone will know that Ross Jeffries did, in fact, fuck you in some respect — be it for buying a shitty product or ass rape.

4. Copious Masterbation. Ross was the first person to copiously masterbate. So everytime you’re wanking it, you must match you’re K-Y induced rythm with ”Thank you Ross Jeffries for inventing copious masterbation. May I do it some more?” over and over again, because when it comes to this patented Ross technique, it’s not just enough to give him credit, you must ask permission, which he will psychically grant or deny, based on where he is in his circle of power.

5. Paranoid Ramblings. If you find yourself talking to yourself, and thinking everyone is out to get you, just remember: Ross Jeffries is your friend.

6. Man/Boy Love. If you should find yourself having sex with a little boy, just remember to give Ross the credit for driving you to such extreme measures to get your dickie wet. Each thrust into the little boy should be accompanied by ”Ross, Ross, Ross, Ross Jeffries!” Remember, 3 short, 1 long!

7. Ownership of Cats. Yes, feline’s have been cornered by Ross Jeffries, since that’s the closest he can get to having pussy. If you own a cat, it should be enough to simply name it ”Ross Jeffries,” so every time you refer to it, you can place the proper credit to where it’s due.

8. Fucking ugly women. To give Ross credit, he really did pioneer a lot of this. So the next time you’re with a woman who weighs upwards of 300 pounds, has facial hair, jelly rolls, massive thighs, huge gaping pustuils, some type of VD, is bald, has no teeth, sweats a lot, has terrible breath, and more hair on her pussy than should legally exist on a human body, you MUST give thanks to Ross Jeffries, who’s been with women uglier than that since his LA ’99 video.

9. Sweating profusely. Ross has lead advances in the ”sweat” technology out there. If you find yourself covered in a healthy sheen of salty lather on a regular basis, just tell everyone who’s grossed out by you that you owe it all to Ross Jeffries.

10. Premature ejaculation. If you’re scared and you cum too quick, just laugh it off by saying you learned it at a Ross Jeffries’ Psychic Influence seminar. The girl (or tranni) will understand.

There, that should be enough to keep you in Ross’s good graces. Just remember: When in doubt, accredit it to Ross.

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PS: This post is dedicated to Ross, who invented it. In fact, he wrote it himself. He also created not only typing, but computers and the internet in general, as evidenced in his LA ’99 videos. Premature ejacualtion and copious masterbation are all trademarks of Straightforward Inc.

Steve Piccus Reminder

Because of the nature of a daily blog, a lot of info get’s lost in the shuffle. I just wanted to remind people of the Major Mark Seminar which he’s holding to benefit Steve Piccus, who’s life was almost destroyed due to the San Diego fires a few months back. If you’re interested in helping out or want to attend the seminar, you can find all the information here.

Thundercat

News on the Latest PUA Summits

Okay, with Herbal leaving Austin, there was a bit of confusion as to what was happening with the big Austin PUA summit he was organizing. It seems Cduce has some info on what’s happening with it:

Cduce wrote:
Ok guys,

There’s been talk about the Austin Summit taking place in November, but nobody has set the date. I’ve looked at the calendar and the best dates are November 11 to 14. November 11 is a holiday (Veteran’s day), 13 & 14 is a weekend.

The summit will happen around those dates most likely. Probably most people will want a 5 day summit. So November 10 to 14 OR November 11 to 15 is the best bet.

Then Herbal chimed in with information on the new LA Summit he’s organizing.

Herbal writes:
I have been very busy with other things so I have not been able to make the new web page yet.

However, the event is still on from April 1-5 in LA. I have been working on the speakers list. So far it looks like :

(in alphabetical order)

Formhandle (now that I write this, I’m not 100% sure he agreed, but I think he did)
Harmless
Mystery
Papa
Ross Jeffries
Style
Swinggcat
Tyler Durden

More to come…

Seems like the LA Summit is gonna be a real Guru fest. So far the only one claiming to be in Austin is the mysterious and elusive Gunwitch, and if he holds true to form he’ll flake on that at the last minute. Either way, I love Austin and seeing as how it’s in November, I may be able to save up enough cabbage to buy a ticket down there.

Thundercat

Bad Boy Blues

**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 2/3/04

I had the opportunity to talk to Nightlife, who runs the San Diego Lair, this weekend. For those of you who don’t know, Nightlife is also Croatian PUA BadBoy’s contact in America and is responsible for setting up BadBoy’s American workshops. He told me BadBoy is doing well and is excited to come to the states to teach his unique brand of pick-up to us foolish/uptight Americans. =) I’ve heard extremely good things about BadBoy and his style and am quite interested in attending one of his events so I can see him work first hand (though time and money being as they are, I might not get the opportunity to do so for a while). However, there has been problems getting BadBoy into the country. It seems that he has yet been able to get permission to not only come to America, but to work here as well.

Ultimately, Nightlife didn’t seem too concerned with this issue, just a bit frustrated with the beurocratic process that seems to be dragging him through a great deal of red tape. He doesn’t expect it to affect BadBoy’s upcoming workshops, which you can sign up for at BadBoy’s website here.

I’ll be sure to keep you updated as more news comes my way.

Thundercat

Mystery Goes Mainstream

**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 2/2/04

Well, it seems Ross isn’t the only one who got a lot of attention from the New York Times article. Apparently, Mystery has been bombarded with a slew of offers from pretty much every major news magazine on TV. He has been approached to be on Good Morning America, 20/20, and Primetime to name a few. He’s approaching most of these shows with caution, mostly because he seems to know that they are going to try and paint him in the worst possible light they can.

Not only that, but Mystery has been courted by two MAJOR stations to have his own show. The producer’s of FOX’s American Idol have contacted Mystery and are in serious talks to give him his own special, though the format of the show is unknown at this time. Likewise, VH1 has also contacted Mystery, but with a more concrete offer. In fact, they are flying him out to New York to meet with the VH1 brass about the nature of the show. I’m told that it is probably going to be a series where Mystery takes a bunch of hopeless AFCs and turns them into real ladies men — a type of ”Straight Eye for the Pathetic Guy” type scenereo. MTV did this type of show with David Wygan, but it apparently didn’t do too well, mostly because it was more of a make-over show than anything else. According to Mystery, the VH1 show would be much more about teaching guys the Art of PUA than simply giving them a new haircut and super-uber peacocking gear.

Not only does Hollywood seem to be courting him, but Mystery’s seminar/workshop business has also seemed to have benefitted from the article. I met with Mystery this weekend after a workshop which he deemed very successful. I’m also told that his personal one-on-one workshops are also becoming quite popular, which is probably the impetus for his VH1 series, should it go through.

************(name removed) is also doing his part to help keep the gravy train rolling by introducing Mystery to a number of entertainment industry big-wigs, as well as getting him in the door at the William Morris Agency, which could end up representing him. Couple all this with the fact that Mystery is now writing a book — which now stands a good chance to be picked up by a major publisher — and 2004 could be the year for Erik von Markovik.

Also, new video footage of Mystery has popped up on the net. It’s a fairly short 3 minute piece of Mystery doing a monologue on Sunset Blvd. Maybe a precursor of things to come? Or more likely a promotional tool? Perhaps a bit of both? I guess we’ll see. You can view it here.

Thundercat

Mystery chimes in on the RJ/TD Flamefest

**Reposted from the first Lair, original date: 2/2/04

Mystery has chimed in with the whole ”Ross vs. TD” flamefest that has occured on the mASF boards, though you wouldn’t know it if you weren’t looking. Seems Mystery swooped in using Roadking’s computer and accidentally logged in as him, but I can assure you, the following post is by Mystery:

Topic: Your overpowering reality (29 of 29), Read 23 times
Conf: >> General
From: Roadking lordkreel@yahoo.com
Date: Monday, February 02, 2004 03:27 AM

TD>>In fact, if you look back, it was actually from my posts that Mystery learned this gameplan, and changed his 13 Steps model over to a more complete 7 Steps model. It came after 2 posts well-known of mine from last December/January.

RJ>Wow. You are teaching Mystery now! I’ll have to find
out what he says about that.

Yes TD was observing me in the field (and stayed at my place while in Toronto) and noticed certain things I did (recognizing patterns I was doing without my even knowing it). His insights helped refine my format which lead to my changing 13 steps (which went from MEET to KISS) into 7 steps (MEET to SEX). of course 7 steps has since been refined further (with TDs insights still a part of it) into the most elegant method so far: M3. I teach it in my seminar … it teaches how to go from MEET to SEX and breaks the path into discrete stages (3 stages each with 3 phases). I cant outline it here because I need to show the concept using a visual representation. Thanks to TD for sharing his time with me. While there is some crossover between TD’s seminar and mine, there are new refinements and specific field tested material that is different.

Mystery

PS: Flames are fun.

Well, there you have it. It seems Ross has a harder time with TD teaching Mystery Method than Mystery does. The thing is, don’t teachers normally want their student’s to succeed? I mean, Tyler learned all he knows from Mystery, but Tyler also broke it down and incorporated a lot of his own stuff into the mix. I’ve been sarging with Mystery, and I’ve been sarging with Tyler, and though the basics of their game is the same, the specifics are quite different. Tyler is able to do the same thing Mystery is, only without the SUPER peacocking, Magic tricks, etc. In a way, TD’s stuff is a little less intimidating to learn because it’s tailored to the more ”average” guy. That said, Mystery’s stuff is still the most solid version of Mystery Method I’ve seen.

The funny thing is, what TD has done with Mystery Method is no different than what Ross has done with NLP. Ross is basically teaching NLP, a science OTHER PEOPLE developed, yet with his own insights and focus. It is literally NO DIFFERENT than whay Tyler is doing, yet Ross seems to feel the need to indite Tyler about it. In short, Ross is exposing himself as a flat-out hypocrite.

So sad.

Thundercat

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