Video: What Do Hot Chicks Think About Your Looks?
August 1, 2008 by Thundercat
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Last week, I told you about an interview I did with an extremely attractive girl.
Well, today I’m going to reveal that video to you, but before I do, I want to share with you the story behind it…
A while back I was at a club for a private charity event. The guy throwing this event spared no expense, and shipped in some of the HOTTEST girls I’d ever seen from lord knows where.
There were lots of models, dancers, and eye candy all over the place.
This included Body Painted Girls. These are models who are basically NAKED, but have clothes (usually lingerie) painted on their body.
So they’re naked, and yet NOT naked. (Talk about a punch to the brain!)
Anyway, one of these body painted girls was simply GORGEOUS. She had long blond hair, a smoking body – and EVERYONE in the club couldn’t take their eyes off her.
And when I say everyone, I mean EVERYONE. Guys AND Girls couldn’t stop staring at how hot this girl was.
Naturally, I decided to approach her – even though I knew the odds were against me. (Let’s be honest, when a girl is in that high value of a position, it’s hard to make time with her.)
As I got closer to this girl, I suddenly realized I KNEW HER.
See – I’m a fan of reality television, and one of my favorite shows is Rock Of Love on VH1.
As it turns out, this hot body paint girl was actually ON THAT SHOW! She was one of the girls who was trying to date Brett Michaels.
So I opened her with that little factoid. As it turns out, I was the ONLY person in the club who recognized her, and that instantly made me stand out.
We spoke on and off the whole night. She was a very sweet girl and we actually hit it off right from the start.
Eventually, I ended up driving her home after the party, and we’ve become close friends since then.
So when I asked her to sit down and let me interview her for the benefit of my students, she was more than willing to oblige.
See, her name is Kristia, and not only is she a model and actress, she’s also a professional go-go dancer in Las Vegas. She works at various clubs dancing on the poles. (If any of you out there have ever been to Vegas, you know the type of girl I’m talking about.)
So Kristia is a super-hot chick who gets hit on by guys CONSTANTLY.
Not only that, but all her friends are super hot chicks who get hit on constantly! So she knows more about how attraction works than most people do.
And in my interview with her, she reveals some really amazing insights about how to attract super-hot girls.
Check out the video here:
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Trust me, you don’t want to miss this video!
Also – Just so you know, I did not "pay" or "coach" Kristia in any way. We’re quite friendly, so you can see how her and I just riff in the video.
In fact, just look at the way we interact with each other, and you’ll see how close we are.
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Wow Thundie, you got good rapport! She even gave you a slew of trance words and part of her map to being seduced…too bad you don’t know how to use those things or you could have gotten out of the friend frame lightning fast!
“Wow Thundie, you got good rapport! She even gave you a slew of trance words and part of her map to being seduced…too bad you don’t know how to use those things or you could have gotten out of the friend frame lightning fast”
I just got the SS bhsc (the one that is getting shit canned). Do you have any reccomondations on how I could try this stuff out on a bartender or another girl? I went thru the course but I don’t have a plan of action, any basic patterns or outline you could suggest? The course seems hodgepodge right now and I just want to get a feel for this stuff
Yeah Micetrough, you should introduce him to Ross Jeffries. Hell of a devil.
Sorry, I didn’t get much value from this. She is just saying what girls “think” they want. You know, it is easy to become friends with girls…. Anyone can do it. Lets see the guys she sleeps with and hear about their qualities.
I agree that inner game is really important. Regardless, what she is saying is kind of useless, she doesn’t add anything of value to the discussion.
?Sorry, I didn’t get much value from this. She is just saying what girls “think” they want. You know, it is easy to become friends with girls…. Anyone can do it. Lets see the guys she sleeps with and hear about their qualities.?
she sleeps with guys that look like overweight Mr. Magoo’s….. but seriously….
she is responding from the realm of social conditioning…in reality she want’s to get gang raped from a bunch of underemployed underwear models who go by the names of Lance and Jared
women care about looks…on a subconscious level, and like us, they would like to fuck every hot guy out there until there vagina turns purple BUT>…..social conditioning says they must find a man of redeeming qualities…
Thunderchunk…give it up, she is getting gang raped by a bunch of foul smelling bikers tonight…
You kinda reminded me of the guy who has hot friends that he sits and talks to for hours complaining about all the other hot girls who reject him because he’s clueless and utterly oblivious to how things work, and is secretly in love with her, while she would never have anything to do with him sexually.
That about sums it up.
Sorry man. Just an observation.
To be completely honest though, I wasn’t too big of a fan of you, but after watching these few videos, I applaud your sincerity man. Good job.
WTF? Look from your side. Would you like super hot babie (HB 10.5), if she will be with terrible character. For ex maybe yes, bot for current life I don’t think so. So, girls is doing the same, why they need very good looking guy, I’f they can’t to have normal conversation and make fun. Don’t mind if your nose was broken 20 times, at least you can do for yourself an operation. All the people can make their life as good as they dreem about, they just need to find how to do that and in real life there are a lot of ways how to be fascinating peson. You need to work for yourself… So good luck! and have a fun of life.
P.S. Sorry for my grammar, I hope you don’t mind.
This is like the worst video ever. This is how to be an AFC 101.
You try and spin what she says to standard “community” dogma – but she comes out and says that after hanging out with a guy for a long time (not giving him sex) she suddenly discovers who “amazing” he is.
That’s the story of 99% of the people who discover “the community”. They hung out with some little strumpet, hoping that one day she would so amazed that during a game of Connect 4 she spontaneously spreads her legs.
Newman,
This isn’t realy the plac to discuss that, but a couple good sites for discussing such things are:
http://www.pick-up-artist-forum.com/
http://www.fastseduction.com/
I’d start out on the bartender with “I have an intuition about you” and notice something about her I am curious about or something I have observed that is unique aout her.
The other one- if you’re already on friendly terms with her just start talking, and start throwing in the patterns and questions tha are gone over in the HSC.
Thundercat! For the most part I liked the interview. HOWEVER knowing a person for a while is more for the guy who is looking for a LTR which isn’t a bad thing. She seems really nice. Remember bra, it’s ok to have female friends. You don’t have to bang everything with a vagina. Peace!
The type of attitude that is being reflected from the majority of the replies here is why this community will continue to make money on average.
These guys have been brainwashed to feel that they arn’t “cool” unless they are bad ass mutherfuckers who every girl wants to fuck. They want to live a storytale like a baby wants to be breastfed his milk.
This is why they sit at home and spew hate at people over the internet. They are frustrated because they think that is what it is about.
For some reason they are blind to the facts and cant see the facts that every single last god damn male that actually is having sex with these types of women are men who have lots of “friends” that people like to be around, who know how to “influence” people, and how to be in harmony with society as well as themselves. They have a social life, they dont have to cold approach all the time, and they have plenty of hot women friends who are happy to invite them to events and help them to meet her hot women friends — and thus — they have mad ass social proof.
Some guys will never get that though. In fact most will just sit frustrated like a typical noob — on their computer — venting at anyone who tries to help them or offer value — like a little baby in diapers crying and throwing a tantrum with drool coming out of his mouth.
Don’t get your panties in a wad, Crack Macky, we’re just giving Thundie shitecuz he wants to act like a guru and sell method even while demonstrating a lack of knowledge for what many would think is common knowledge in this communitty. Also, it is evident from his displayed short-comings in certain situations that he could be easily remedied by the very methods he so condescendingly and ignorantly chooses to berate and continually seeks to undermine. If the guy would open his mind, he could be a pure monster! But he has to let personal grudges get in his way, so he was kind of asking for someone to bust his chops.
Seduction Maestro
I went to those websites and all the people there are newbies too, one guy got his ass kicked when he used some sexual accelrator pattern
Well I don’t think it’s any big secret to ANYONE by now that Thundercat is teaching us “AFC” game. I have said that before. However AFC game can get you exactly what it is that Thundercat wants — a girlfriend or a wife — especially when coupled with social proof.
I didn’t watch the video but I do see a lot of bitterness here. The longer I stick around the community the more proof that I see that a large part of the advice — and of the audience for that matter — is giving their comments and advices from a dark and very bitter place. When guys freak out at any type of heart centered advice — it shows they are a little too off the deep end. I know because I have been there. You don’t make friends that way — and if you don’t have friends you don’t get hot girls unless you get very very lucky — and if you need to get very very lucky to get girls than your an AFC anyways.
>Well I don’t think it’s any big secret to ANYONE by now that Thundercat is teaching us “AFC” game. I have said that before. However AFC game can get you exactly what it is that Thundercat wants — a girlfriend or a wife — especially when coupled with social proof.”
which is to say he is mirroring what soceity basically brainwashes people to believe and ultomately does not serve them.
kadish ‘s OM is to be a guru of some sort by preaching getting involved in a “true love” relationship, belong to a brain melting organized religion, and all the rest. he want’s in on the big guru bucks so he can appear on the dr Phib show, so he is creating a method that is distinct from the other methods. That is why he is attempting to brainwash the people who read this blog so they are open to his method, just the way rsd brainwashes 17 year old boys into “clawing’ a women into the bedroom
Well all that may true but who the fuck are you and who the fuck is Maestro to critisize the guy? I think he has proven that he has a good deal of social proof at the very least. He’s proven a lot more than you folks have.
Im tired of coming on here and reading mindless rants and posturing. It’s not just here either — it’s on all forums.
And you know what?
I have met many many people from this community, normal people who post on sites. All the big talk, all the posturing, all the bs — and most of these guys I meet have NO friends and can’t even HOOK sets.
Yet they spend time online critical of others and demanding to hear the same advice over and over — when anyone strews from it they freak out because they are lost and confused — because they are frustrated.
Look — there is going out into clubs to pick up “party chicks” or to pick up young or clueless women who are very easily influenced. There is ways of carrying yourself in competitive environments that allows you to stand out better and get the upper hand too. That stuff is all great and there are people who teach it.
Then there is real life too though. There’s nothing wrong with making friends and being a grounded person so long as you know what you want, where you want to go, and that you understand when you need to step up in certain situations or calibrate to certain situations.
I didn’t know about this community when I was in highschool OR college. I didn’t know about it when I landed a smoking little girlfriend and banged the shit out of her for several years. I didn’t know it when I had girls FIGHTING over me to be my girlfriend.
When you guys say the shit you do it makes you look very clueless and angry about things. Bitterness does not get you ANYWHERE with women.
What gets you places is being grounded, and knowing what you want as well as having AWARENESS and being able to calibrate effectively to the situations you find yourself in.
‘You don’t make friends that way — and if you don’t have friends you don’t get hot girls unless you get very very lucky — and if you need to get very very lucky to get girls than your an AFC anyways.”
Jeez Mack you are just as bad as Thundie. You are telling me that it is absolutely impossible to walk up to an HB10 in a bookstore, intrigue her, and make her into your girlfriend? You are saying that in order to do that I have to bring a friend along?
What friggin planet are you from?
“Well all that may true but who the fuck are you and who the fuck is Maestro to critisize the guy?”
Who are you?
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A policeman knew my name
He said “You can go sleep at home tonight
If you can get up and walk away”
I staggered back to the underground
And the breeze blew back my hair
I remember throwin’ punches around
And preachin’ from my chair
chorus:
Well, who are you? (Who are you? Who, who, who, who?)
I really wanna know (Who are you? Who, who, who, who?)
Tell me, who are you? (Who are you? Who, who, who, who?)
‘Cause I really wanna know (Who are you? Who, who, who, who?)
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Back to the Rollin’ Pin
I felt a little like a dying clown
With a streak of Rin Tin Tin
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And looked back on my busy day
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(chorus)
I know there’s a place you walked
Where love falls from the trees
My heart is like a broken cup
I only feel right on my knees
I spit out like a sewer hole
Yet still recieve your kiss
How can I measure up to anyone now
After such a love as this?
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Lyrics Peter Townsend
Mack STFU. You didn’t even watch the video so you don’t even know wtf you are talking about. You are like one of those pacifist Californian girl men who says “Stop! I can’t watch this! Turn the channel! I don’t like violence!”
No we’re not going to change the channel, wussy! It’s my friggin’ TV and we don’t watch candy ass shit on it.
So what you got laid before you learned about this stuff? Does that mean that everyone does? Every friggin’ nerd in America is banging HB10s by “being themselves?”
I don’t think so, Einstein.
And who the fuck said there was anything wrong with having friends?
Listen, dumbass. Thundie brags about being a pua and even SELLS PRODUCT. And when talking about this woman he’s bragging about “how close they are” and he is teaching AFC game, which only gets you laid if you’re lucky or really good looing.
He is also bad mouthing some of the most nuclear powered, proven effective seduction methods on the net because he has never had the balls or intelligence to give it a go and make it work for him.
Oh yeah, but you do that too, so I guess you’ll justify it.
You two brain dead idiots are basically like English students saying that Calculus doesn’t work and is stupid and a fraud because you’ve never taken the time to understand it.
‘You don’t make friends that way — and if you don’t have friends you don’t get hot girls unless you get very very lucky — and if you need to get very very lucky to get girls than your an AFC anyways.”
I have an inflatable Barry Kirkey doll I bring…chicks dig me
“He is also bad mouthing some of the most nuclear powered, proven effective seduction methods ‘
It’s like if the US had decided instead of dropping an atomic bomb on Hiroshima they dropped a grenade.
Wow.
These last few replies really make me question why I even bother to post. I think it’s pretty god damn obvious that most of you guys are beyond help.
I mean seriously.
There is a reason you feel you need help. A fuckin good reason.
You guys take everything out of context, misinterprete everything, are angry, are nerdy, are anal.
It drives me fuckin nuts.
I was the guy in school that gave everyone a chance. I would hang out with the nerd that everyone teased from time to time. I would at least listen to the guy and not be a jerk to him like my friends would.
You guys drive me nuts though. Your so far gone and you don’t even know it.
Im not perfect. I was never a nerd but I have some anger issues and am a bit of a bum. Sometimes I say shit that is a bit harsh and causes confrontation.
However for all my faults at least i REALIZE them. I have maken a HUGE point to figure out what it is that I do — that could be improved in order to relate with people better.
You guys don’t. Not only are you lonely nerds but you dont have open minds. your narcisistic, your angry, and you use this movement not to improve — not to discover your faults and correct them — but to be able to be “know it alls” and to “play make believe”. You use it to try to convince yourself that you ARE cool instead of finding the things that have made you UNCOOL and CORRECTING THEM.
Im not sayin you have to drag a friend along to a bookstore dumbasses.
Im talking about a lifestyle here. These PUA’s that you admire so much — they live a LIFESTYLE.
Sure you can go to a book store and eventually hook up with some OTHER lonely girl if you have no friends, or maybe even some big time popular girl — but you wont be fooling anyone for long.
The way you become “popular” and gain “social proof” and live a “lifestyle” is to be someone that people like to talk to and be around. Someone who is not bitter, someone who is not a narcisist, someone who is a COOL NORMAL human being — who ALSO knows how to have a little fun.
When you have friends they invite you to things, they party with you, they get you hooked up with other people.
Its the REASON why I use to get laid without the community.
And as for this maestro character — what a fuckin idiot. Chill out bro, your acting pathetic.
I am cool!!! Just because i have never been laid does not mean shit whackey mild.
I am working on my routines to trance people every day and improving them. Someday I will rule the world
And a few last thoughts to add:
1) the blowup doll thing was funny, I gotta admitt.
2) Maestro is a complete out of touch lunatic, don’t listen to him. The man is messed up.
3) I didn’t watch the video.
4) If thundercat is good friends with a girl that appeared on VH1 — how much value do you think he might have with other “normal” chicks?
You see what Im saying?
You guys are bitching and moaning and saying that what he is telling you to do is why you get lets just be friended.
First of all that thinking is totally flawed.
You get lets be friended because of the dorky bullshit behavior displayed in this thread — the beast that fuels those kinds of actions — and because of a total lack of awareness on how you come off to others — coupled with a complete lack of any ownership for anything and complete denial and finished off with several dashes of “GIVE ME A QUICK FIX”.
Losers. That’s what you are faggots.
LOSERS.
That’s why you get LJBF’D.
Now
The other point i make is that EVEN IF YOU WERE RIGHT — and what Thundie is teaching will ONLY get you Lets just be friended. You will STILL get laid — because you will have massive social proof and more access to new women.
No more having to find new prospects by being the creepy guy wandering into a bookstore with a blow up barry mantel doll.
Do you guys get it?
Probably not.
Oh well — im done here.
Butt Crackey,
You are the one getting angry here. We’re just giving Thundie shit cuz he deserves it, as I’ve said before when you weren’t paying attention.
Just because someone doesn’t agree with your and Thundercat’s earthy-crunchy gronala sunshine view of women does not make them a nerd.
You’re calling people close-minded but you…
1. ….are judging people you know nothing about based on one sentence comments
2…are continually ridiculing methods that you know nothing about, and which have been proven successful with 1000s of people who have written thousands of testimonials
3…are commenting like an authority on a video THAT YOU HAVEN’T EVEN WATCHED
4…are posting stupid shit using my name like a third grader who’s a little imature for his age
Now if those 4 things aren’t the epitome closed-minded, I don’t know what closed minded is.
Now on to this-
“Sure you can go to a book store and eventually hook up with some OTHER lonely girl if you have no friends, or maybe even some big time popular girl — but you wont be fooling anyone for long.”
What? That’s so fucked up I don’t even know what it means.
Fooling them about what?
You are saying that if I meet a woman in a coffee shop and fuck her then it’s impossible that I have a social life as well, therefore she’s going to find out that i don’t have any friends and think I fooled her?
Or…what? Cuz I’m confused.
When Stacy comes over later to go out in the boat with my friend Matt and the girl we met last night, I better tell her I just found out I was fooling her when I met her at BandN and want to apologize, but that I don’t know why I’m fooling her it’s just that Mack Crackey told me so.
Oh wait- I think I know what you meant-
If someone thinks that Thundercat is a chump or posts on this forum something that is in disagreement with you or Thundercat, it logically follows that there is no possible way that this person could have a single friend or any kind of social life. Furthermore, disagreeing with Thundie also proves that the person in question is a nerd and is bitter about women.
Well, I gotta say Butt Smackey, that makes perfect sense!
“No more having to find new prospects by being the creepy guy wandering into a bookstore with a blow up barry mantel doll.”
What is so wrong with you that you keep thinking that talking to women outside of your social circle is “creepy?”
No one else thinks so.
And “having to” makes the funnest activity in the world sound like work. No wonder you depend on your social circle, if you dislike meeting women “cold” so much.
Look,while you’re defending this video you haven’t even watched, you might want to consider the fact that it taught us absolutely nothing!
Confidence is sexy? Women like to talk to new guys? Hot women are actually people too? Women can develope an attraction for men after having been JUST FRIENDS for a while?
Well Golly Gee Whiz, Mackman, that is a friggin’ BREAKTHROUGH!
You’re fat
Mack Mild said;
When you have friends they invite you to things, they party with you, they get you hooked up with other people.
Its the REASON why I use to get laid without the community.”
Gee you’re a real alpha male!!! Could you
teach us to be just like you???
Oh please Mack Mild!!! Please help us desperate losers ascend to your
very cool, high lifestyle level of being.
Seriously Mack shit eater, If you arent in
the community why the hell are you
here? This is for the community, by the community. You’re watered down BS opinions
are just that.
Find another sand box to play in.
You AFC fuck.
lol.
What a bunch of posturers. If I am so off base I don’t get where all the anger is coming from. lol.
Look — I go out to bars and clubs and parties to meet women ALL the time. Im not saying there is anything WRONG with cold approaching women.
My point is that if that is all your relying on — then that’s pretty lame.
Guys were poking at thunder with the idea that this girl is just his friend, and making it as if being friends with girls is a BAD thing. It’s not — and the social proof leads to much more sex than some guy who has nothing better to do than to try to sit on here and plug his method as if it is the be all end all — freak out at any other opinions — flame — hate — call guys names — and act like a complete nerd in general. If you guys arn’t nerds — don’t act like them.
This is gay shit. It’s like “my action figure is better than your action figure.” This is nerd stuff dudes. Nerdy stuff. If you can’t SEE that — then it’s just proof that I am pretty much on the money about you. I cant tell you how many times I have met a SS nutcase or a this or that method nutcase — who talks a lot of shit but couldnt back it up to save his life. Most of you guys that act like this are creepy as fuck — especially the guys that flip out at things like what Thundercat was trying to illustrate in the video that I didn’t see.
You guys are pretty damn pathetic in my opinion and to me — my opinion is really all that matters because — well — i’ve seen it all.
Fact is if all your relying on is your ss routines and your cold approaches and you freak out at any other idea’s — than most likely you lack experience and are mostly a KJ.
http://mack-wild-uncensored.blogspot.com/
Yeah what is so fucked up about Smack said, is that it’s absolutely irrevellent.
Dude. When I was an AFC I was KING social. I had way more friends than I do now. I got chicks backstage to meet Willie Nelson and Widespread Panic and even Dick Dale during his Pulp Fiction comeback. I had VIP seats to Clint Eastwood’s parties while filming Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil.
*MY* friggin social circle invited *MY* ass to friggin’ Europe to play at a 6000 person “party” and guess the fuck what?
I got laid like twice in 5 years. Sure I got groped by a fattie or an UG here and there, so I can’t say that most men would have to go that long because, hey, to alot of guys fat chicks are like mopeds.
But the point is, I’m having alot more sex now and, in fact….I’m having more sex than I was having when I was in a 4 year relationship! And I have nowhere near the amount of friends I had when I was an AFC!
You got laid more than that when you were an AFC? Great!
But who gives a damn unless you can pass the ability on to the next guy?
If you want to “just be yourself” and “LJBF” yourself with certain women, and trust to friends and luck, fine! But why is this being taught in a community that is about techniques and methods that work consistently?
To be clear, hey, I’m glad Thundie made a new friend. She seems cool and I hope she gets him laid, if that’s one of the things he wants out of it (though I hope it’s not the only thing he wants out of it because then it wouldn’t be a real friendship).
In my younger days, playing with internationally known female stars didn’t get ME laid, so I don’t believe that hanging out with a VH1 hottie is gonna get anyone laid in and of itself. But sure, if you know what your doing you can make something out of social proof. What Mr. Mackey doesn’t understand is that most people have NO natural ability at all. Some people even need extensive inner work in order to have ANY chance at all of succeeding with women.
something I noticed is that guys who own bars get many hot women. It comes with the territory. However, if these guys didn’t own the bar and didn’t have the subsequent social circle, they would just be afc’s.
something I noticed is that guys who own bars get many hot women. It comes with the territory. However, if these guys didn’t own the bar and didn’t have the subsequent social circle, they would just be afc’s.
Just goes to show that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, since I would describe the lady as pretty, but not hot. The fact that she wanted to date sleazebag Brett Michaels would have been a major turn-off for me.
Bars and nightclubs aren’t my scene, period. I’m strictly a day game guy. I find that the women you meet during the day are much classier, much better-looking, and much more sober than the bleach-haired, club-hopping airheads you tend to encounter at night.
Maestro:
You misinterprete my advice if you feel I am telling people to “Just be themselves”. My whole thing is that you identify the things holding you back and you take action to fix them.
Any problem I have with aspects of certain methods usually have to do with calibration and congruence. Two of the most important things.
For you to have the social experiences you did back then and only get laid 2 times in 5 years means that you probably were doing something wrong.
That doesn’t mean that all the things you did were wrong. It doesn’t mean that whatever you use to do that got you so many friends and such a large social circle — was wrong.
I don’t believe that your getting laid much even today by how you act at times, and who you support. However that’s not for me to really concern myself with.
What I DO believe is that guys go way off the deep end when trying to destroy everything they were and become some kind of “sell out” for the ability to “fuck more women”. I mean think about that for a minute. Number one it’s not even reality and not true that you have to sell out your soal to get women. Number two think about the type of person that normal human beings — not involved in this small community — would think about a person like that.
Why do you think society is so damn hard on people who do bad things in order just to get off?
Yes at the root of all this we are just animals — but we DO happen to live in a society and we DO happen to have responsibilities and to have voices and to have to co-exist with one another.
Look — when I was an AFC I got laid and I had girlfriends. I could have had a hell of a lot more sex than I did too.
The difference between ME and some of YOU guys is that I dont freak out about it and become some sort of psychopath:
“OH NO — MUST BE HIGHLY SEXUAL AND PUSHY AND ASSHOLE AND RECITE MAD ASS SS ROUTINES OR RISK BEING LJBF. NO LJBF!!!!!!”
“Haha — that guy has a girlfriend but they dont have sex hahahaha what a loser!!! I will NEVER get LJBF — nevermind no one likes me and I can’t relate with people anymore — who cares? When someone does come into my life *BRIEFLY* …. I WONT BE LJBF!!!! Muahahahahahaha.”
Look there are many reasons a woman may not end up in a sexual situation with you, and good game cant solve all of those reasons. Life just doesn’t work that way. Stop idolizing your sexual fantasies to such a degree that you can’t even act like normal functioning human beings in this society. It makes you look ignorant.
Instead — look at some simple things that you may have been doing or not doing that can cost you sex. Things like:
1) Not escalating
2) Not touching her at times
3) Not having the balls to flirt and play with her
I got laid and had girlfriends as an AFC — but there are soooo many times where I would NOT get laid because of a good friend (bro’s before hoe’s) or because of situations women would put themselves in for me — that I just simply did NOT take advantage of because I thought women didn’t like sex and I thought they were TOTALLY about other more character based things. Thing is — they ARE about other more character based things … it’s just they need good sex too. They have plenty of choice and at the end of the day they will pick the guy with both.
Yeah, Mack- what I was doing wrong when I was an AFC was not being sexual, prudishly thinking that sexual topics were off limits, being afraid to make a move, supplicating and telling girls I liked them instead of fucking them, and several other things.
And for your information I got LJBFed the other day. We are going out for drinks this weekend, though. I think you’re interpretting what we’re saying wrong. We aren’t telling Thundie to fuck Kristia or tell her to go the fuck home. We are criticizing this video as being almost worthless. And we are giving Thundie shit because he gives other people shit who have actually given us worthwhile material.
Thundie is no guru. SS could have helped him a great deal on two of his recent sarges. But he’s a close minded dildo like you who attacks things he doesn’t understand.
You are criticizing my material, because you don’t like Ross (and I also use Swingcat and stuff I pick up elsewhere so it’s kind of a moot point). The fact is, if you were right about SS, then that would mean that
1. At least one of the thousands of testimonials would have been proven a fake.
2. Rick H., one of the most respected PUAs in this scene, is a liar.
3. Swingcat is a liar. Look at his old posts.
4. David D. is a liar, and he got his girlfriend stolen from Ross even though Ross’s shit doesn’t work.
5. David Shade is a liar.
6. Formhandle is a liar.
7. Hypnotica is a liar, since he lauds Riker’s version of SS
8. Mehow is a liar., because he also claims to have learned alot from Ross.
9. Tom Vizzinni and Kim McFarland are also liars.
10. The videos on Ross’s site where you can see women getting turned on from the techniques are fake. Those girls are just such great actors that they can flush on cue, and have such a thorugh and deep understanding of Ross’s product that they know exactly what physical reactions they should have to Ross’s BS in order to make it look real.
But, believe it or not, we don’t need to logically refute your idiocy with the avbove FACTS: alot of people who are reading this have had alot of success with SS, so when you attack it we realize you are an angry idiot who never tried it adequately.
Wow… that was as worthless of a video as I’ve ever seen.
Nothing new contributed to the “scene” and overall fountain of knowledge (that you couldn’t get out of any of your female friends already if you just asked them the same questions).
On the other hand, that girl Ami over at Sean Messenger’s camp, she’s giving out some mind blowing advice to guys… too bad she doesn’t get a quarter of attention this blog gets.
*sigh*
Here we go again with the wild SS rants. Why is it that every single gawd damn conversation you have always goes back to you wildly defending Ross Jeffries as if he is the mesiah? You sound like Ross Jeffries under a code name or some shit — but I can’t honestly say I think you ARE — because as ridiculas as you are your still not nearly as nuts as he is.
Look — I like Swinggcat, I like hypnotica, I like Rick H. My beef is with RJ and how he chooses to act and how he chooses to teach things to people. The underlying concept that is shared by people influenced by SS is painting a picture for a woman to emotionally feel that makes her feel good when she is around you — and in the right place at the right time that can be EXTREMELY EFFECTIVE. Properly calibrated this is good stuff.
However please don’t promote your agenda with ignorance. David D chooses to teach cocky funny not a bunch of SS stuff — because cocky funny works on young women in bars and clubs. Swinggcat chooses to teach Push=pull and role reversal because THATS STUFF WORKS on women your just meeting in bars and clubs. Hypnotica teaches deep inner game and identity change — because thats the stuff that works for becoming a man that is more attractive to women. None of these guys teach ss to their students. In fact they barely mention them. ANYONE who has been in this community long enough has a foundation in SS because THATS ALL THERE WAS BACK THEN. It doesn’t mean that they consider it the be all end all — or that they worship your little hero Ross Jeffries — who is a complete whack job.
So lets not take things out of context there sanchez. I mean if something works people dont feel the need to be hostile and endlessly defend it — and make EVERYTHING about defending it like you do. Grow up. Hulk hogan can DEFINATELY kick the Warriors ass. I mean seriously dude. Go out and try to get laid or some shit. Damn!
Well it always comes back to SS on this forum because Thundie is always bad-mouthing him and then proving that he’s an AFC. If he were doing that to Swingcat, I’d have to bust his balls about that too. I’ve known them both a long time and they’ve both helped me out of ruts. So I feel the need. Just like you feel the need to defend Thundie and criticize things about the community in general that you feel “holier than thou” about.
Now Imma run out and get laid like a good boy cuz you made me feel so insecure with that little quip.
>Just like you feel the need to defend Thundie and criticize things about the community in >general that you feel “holier than thou” about.
I don’t feel any need to defend thundercat. I have gone after the guy several times. I weigh in with what I think about things — shoot me. If I don’t agree with something I say so, end of story.
My “holier than thou” attitude comes from certain values and standards that I think people should have for one another. For instance with me I CANT STAND SOMEONE who insults my intelligence — so companies like RSD irk the ever living shit out of me. With those guys it is simply one lie after another, one bullshit catch right after another. It’s transparent and it’s ridiculas. What upsetts me is people who try to rip people off or lie or pull bullshit and don’t even have the fuckin respect to AT LEAST be somewhat intelligent about it. Im not just your run of the mill moronic virgin newbie here, so it bothers me. I want EVERYONE to get out of this movement what they came here to get, I just want people to succeed. That’s my thing. End of story.
Was she paid to be in the club like most hot chicks are now?
Some cluibs pay up to 1k per night for some of them.
Women like that tend to be the property of the rich and famous.
Summary point:
I gave some thought to this whole thing. The comments in the thread are the never ending debate of how you should interact with women. That’s what this video has caused — is a discussion on that.
There are some like Thundercat who apparently take on the actions and beliefs that are consistant with people who have a lot of “friends” that are girls. On the opposite end of the spectrum of course is the RSD guy who is so insecure about it that he overcompensates and throws himself at all the girls.
So which way is right? I mean the Thundercat way earns you respect, friendships, and makes you stand out as different. The “hot” chick feels safe around you and feels you understand her, listen to her, and don’t want her for sex — your actually a guy not looking to get into her pants but just someone she can talk to. So you stand out — your different. Everything the community tries to teach you to be.
The RSD way can certainly get you laid on occasion. The caveat of course is that you have to totally not give a damn about the 95 percent of the rest of the population who would probably silently pump their fist if you were to have your brains blown out. They don’t stand out at all but at least their men who are honest about their desires, and apparently being political or playerish or smooth or having finesse — is beneath them.
Two totally different approaches and two totally different ways of coming across. The ultimate truth lies somewhere in the middle of course — but the truth doesn’t earn ANYONE any money. That would be like a restaurant opening up and signing a contract with you to feed you for free for the rest of your life — Not exactly a money maker. That’s why out of all the hundreds of “GURUS” in this little ONLINE community — very few of their methods make complete sense — there is always confusion — always grey area’s — always some things that just are “off”. That’s why if you talk to a friend of yours that went to a bootcamp they say “They give you the good stuff at the bootcamp” and even the instructors say that you need to take a bootcamp.
The real truth though is that many men DONT need to take a bootcamp. They just need someone to sort out the mess these guys are making to promote their business. That’s why I hope that EVERYONE will add my blog to their favorites because I am going to do the BEST DAMN JOB i can at clarifying things — and you can think what you want about my ego and you can call me negative. You can even say that I ramble on way too long sometimes and use too many words to get to my points. That’s all fair and fine. You guys know though — all of you who have come to know me online — that i am looking out for OUR best interests — Im on YOUR side. I’ve been through hell and back with this shit and I have a lot of experiences pre and post community. I want to help you guys get this shit sorted out:
http://mack-wild-uncensored.blogspot.com/
Wow evolution hasn’t weeded Ray Gordon out of existence yet?
Is he, like, the only dillweed still posting on the old ASF?
Ray, go wank your meat. We STEAL the property of the rich and famous consistently while you are masterbating in your momma’s basement. It’s not that hard, since they aren’t giving women what they truly want.
Now go skin a fox or whatever it is you do in your delusions.
Mack, I’m starting to understand you better. You come across as a goodie-goodie sometimes, but I understand that your intentions are well placed. You are right that there are flaws in almost all the methods.
With SS for example, there is too much importance on NEXTING and you aren’t really allowed to talk about keeping a girl as a friend when your sarging her. The reason is, it’s a seduction list not a friend-getting list. But the anti-flake second phone messages and extreme view of how women should be given the boot if they don’t live up to your rules can make you lose potential friends just because they weren’t going to become your lovers. It also pays very little heed to the value of social proof, and I thin this is because Ross is too lazy and uninterested in club/bar game to want to go out and do multiple sets in a party environment. He can’t fathom why anyone would want to do anything but go directly up to the girl of his desires and sarge her totally. AMOG? Girlfriends? Who cares- there are thousands more girls I won’t have to deal with that with, so why should I bother?
Those are the parts of SS I leave out, and supplement with other learnings.
Swingcat on the other hand- his openers are week in my opinion, because many of them don’t lead naturally into conversation, they are just quick teases that may or may not pique a woman’s interest. But his push/pull and frame methods are awesome, even superpowered, and way beyond DavidDs CandF. Like you said in your blog (which I’ve bookmarked btw), you need something else to keep conversational interest and intrigue. When combined wth SS it is awesome! I bet that’s because Swingie developed the method while he was still a top SS student, and probably still uses patterns and SRT with the system he’s developed. When you’ve been using NLP as long as Swingie has, I find it hard to believe that you can just stop using it. The language just kind of gets hardwired into your brain and you find yourself using it even when you aren’t thinking about it.
Mack Wild. Gossip King loser extraordinaire
and now hes here to write long winded arguments to fight off other losers
sswwwewe wewerewwewee
“And for your information I got LJBFed the other day. We are going out for drinks this weekend, though. I think you’re interpretting what we’re ”
How did that happen? Not enough trance?
No, not enough dick. The trance was rockin’!!
I like the high-five at the end. Very old-school classic community stuff.
“And for your information I got LJBFed the other day. We are going out for drinks this weekend, though. I think you’re interpretting what we’re ”
How did that happen? Not enough trance?
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Why did she not go from the friend zone? Maybe a “forbidden pattern” would have solved it, maybe too much value elictitation……