October 17, 2007 by Thundercat
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Okay, I just landed an exclusive 35 minute interview with Mystery, where he drops some great gems about how to pick up women. Mystery has a new course coming out called the "Mind Of Mystery," where he reveals all his amazing techniques for getting women insanely attracted to you.
But please keep in mind: This interview is FREE! Check it out.
Click Here For Your Free Mystery Interview
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What’s with the picture above?
40+ CD’s for a 35 minute interview with Mystery?
What a loser you are.
What’s with the picture above?
40+ CD’s for a 35 minute interview with Mystery?
What a loser you are.
What’s with the picture above?
40+ CD’s for a 35 minute interview with Mystery?
What a loser you are.
More advanced methods of “Did you see the fight outside, lol?”
Yawn. Mystery is a joke.
“Okay, I just landed an exclusive 35 minute interview with Mystery”
nice try
it’s from july 2006
http://www.artofapproaching.com/1000/mysterychicago.mp3
To the first poster, that’s the picture of Mystery’s new product — “Mind of Mystery.” Stop being a douche and insulting Thundy for this — insult him for recommending “The Heartbreak Kid” (easily a leading contender for several Razzies) and never getting us the recap of the last Pick Up Artist.
TC, when did mystery allow you to become his leech?
yea!!!! {insert negative comment about thundy}!!! Yea!!! mwhahahahahaha
lol a big lol yea
Hey..RSD is releasing the Jeffy Show in a few weeks. Aside from his close friends and family, is anybody interested in this product?
I love the blog where Tyler, I mean JLaix, keeps reassuring himself that he’s the “top five in the world.” hahaha…those guys are delusional.
“Hey..RSD is releasing the Jeffy Show in a few weeks. Aside from his close friends and family, is anybody interested in this product?
I love the blog where Tyler, I mean JLaix, keeps reassuring himself that he’s the “top five in the world.” hahaha…those guys are delusional.”
Jeffy Show is being released on Halloween. As far as I’m concerned, Jeffy IS in the top five in the world. That blog post has presence and it’s a shame it flew over your head – rofl. Apparently you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about, so your opinion does not hold any weight. Does him reassuring himself he’s in the top five in the world help his game at all? No shit it does dumbass – mindsets are everything, but at least he can backup what he’s saying. I’ve sarged with Jeffy, and believe the hype bitches – he is insane. Who the fuck else would be in the top 5?
Mystery? Rofl, give me a break – his method is crap, too much button pushing, too much lying, too much routines, too much outcome dependent, too in your head, too much bullshit that could be summarized as little as possible.
The other top players in the game are Tyler, Alex, and Tim – all from RSD. All with natural game and screaming powerful presence. When you can open with something as simple as “I like salad” and achieve amazing results – that is the epitome of natural, cool, sexworthy guys. Not this bullcrap of “lolol did you see the fight outside?”
Here is a quote why RSD is the best in this game, and why they’re leagues ahead of everyone else:
“I sat down my entire team in 2004 for a big meeting that would be the seed of a change in RSD from that point forward.
Basically the gist of it was “Look, we have to find a new way of doing this stuff… Even if I don’t release my book for another few years because I’m researching it… Even if we lose initial popularity because we don’t have a concrete system… In the longterm the only way we’ll survive as an organization is if we kick the habit of all these canned lines and go 100% natural, and then find a potent way of teaching it so that people can replicate our level of results…”"
The scary part is, they succeeded – Transformations was born. And good god, THE BLUEPRINT IS GOING TO BE REVOLUTIONARY AND EPIC – AND IT’S COMING OUT THIS YEAR.
Ive gotta say that Im no more into indirect game. HBs were right, thats sneaky. Im bored going into set and having to do A1-C7-D3 to go in K2. Wake up, going on out is not a video game at all.
The Mystery Method is good for ultra Nerdz that need to wake up about the real world but once youve woke up, MM is counter productive. Do you want to build a false personnality based on canned stuff ? Do you want to always have to hide to the girls who you really are ?
Improve who you are, dont build a false self…
(btw stop insulting Thundercat with childish stuff(or at least make it funnier…).
The Mystery Method became so popular because a lot (if not most) guys in the community are/were nerds. The Mystery Method is so freaking systematic. Emotions are fluild, not systematic. We can certainly use some strategy at first to get rolling, but at some point you just gotta drop it and reach beyond a systematic system. Mystery himself is nerdy, he talks like a nerd.
Of course MM would appeal to most nerd guys. We want 0s and 1s and they have to add up. Dealing with women is mostly the oposite. It’s freaking fluid! Solid principles are good to stand by, but becoming a computer yourself when dealing with women is just pathetic and counter-everything-we-are-suppose-to-have-learned.
Don’t get me wrong. Mystery is right about a lot of things in his teachings and method, even though some of them are quite repetitive and by now more than obvious as well as patronazing.
Tyler himself stated that he had to sort of re-learn everything he had learned about seduction recently. I think the guy definetely has a passion for the stuff, and he is not in it for the money only. (Or maybe he is, but at least there is passion is making sure the material is right on the money
.
What I have a real problem with is the shady MOTIVATIONS behind Mystery’s business and public dealings, while posing to be an ultra expert and BEST POOOAH IN THE WHOOOOOLE FREAKING WORLD, while the reality is that there ARE much better guys than him, period.
Mystery, and specially his group, seem to be in it much more for the money than anything else nowadays. It really sucks. His marketing letters (Mike Long and the likes) are so ridiculous and pathetic that it insults my intelligence. They are obviously using Frank Kern’ system (which is valid and revolutionary), but in a TERRIBLE way. (For anyone who doesn’t know Frank Kern, he is the guy who made $1.4 million in 24 hours selling the Annihilation Method of Neil Strauss. That was done well though, marketing wise; while even somewhat still keeping Neil’s integrity, even though the whole thing with the Annihilation Method was a little shady too.)
Mystery might make some money with this latest product using these “hyped up language”, although at the cost of his long term reputation. The way he is doing it is sooo obvious and ridiculous.
Mike Long’s letters with stuff like “oh Lovedrop, stuff looking over my shoulder” crap is just too freaking goffy and a plain lie. How is anyone suppose to believe stuff like that? If they think Frank Kern got away with the Annihilation Method with some shady but effective strategy, the Mystery marketers really pushed the envelope by not only making up ridiculous scenarios, but also by not delivering a good product, which is ultimately what really matters. I heard this product sucks and it’s far from what it promises. (Remember Mystery, part of Frank’s formula is to make an OUTSTANDING product in the first place). 40+ cds/DVDs and with the type of hype that even my 1 year old would be suspicious is the perfect recipe for killing reputation … Good principles applied badly!)
I have never met the man himself (Mystery), although I’m sure he’d be fun to hang out with as friends. But the people he associates himself with seem to just bring him down, always. And that’s of his own fault.
Unfortunally Mystery’s days are counted. Looks like he is on top of the world right now because of the VH1 show (shall I say with actors and a lot of it faked to the max); but the more he exposes his real intentions (that is to milk as much money from losers who really need help), the world’s relationship with Mystery will turn from LOVE TO HATE REAL FAST, to the point where his own fame won’t get him any women for himself, and he will find himself in a dark room repeating “Who lies more, man or women?”. (Just kidding. I’m sure he will be in Cancun drinking a margarita and talking about his glory days. Or better, dropping the game altogether and going for magic by first making his own hat and goggles disappear.)
Sorry, kind of harsh I know… I’ve been a Mystery fan in the past and have friends who were really into him too. Some of my friends even met the guy at a venue, and were not impressed. Seemed like he was running game on them too. Not genuine at all. Friends of mine who were into Mystery soon realized that the power really went to his head, and he himself forgets that that not so long ago he was a geek himself who lost his virginity at the age 21.
OK. And here is the icing on the cake. Check out THE FOLLOWING article. This article not well known in the community yet, but it sure makes you think! If you’re a hardcore community member the following article is a must read. I’m guilty of
… continuation from the previous post….
I’m guilty ofsome of the stuff in it myself. It’s titled
A Long List Of Ways The Seduction Community Can Make You Weird
http://www.datinggroundwork.com/community
(I hope you’re sitting down while reading it).
Now… In my opinion, the community has MUCH more good to offer of good than its bad side effects. I don’t regret at all taking the red pill by joining the community. I lost some friends over my early weirdness (while making changes) as well as because of their jelously over my later successes and transformation. Success which is not stratosferic, but relative to how I used to be, I definetely have more of a handle of things; and look forward to even more improvement, and always will.
But I have wisen up on some of the gurus out there, and how the missapplicatin of concepts can really &*$%^$ you up. But what really really pisses me off, is how some are being such hypocrites by telling people they are helping, during all the while it’s more than evident that they are in it to rip you off. And THEY KNOW IT!
Nothin wrong with making some money (or lots of it). Just be honest! No need to hype the hell out of oneself by LYING, make yourself look like a god, with very little to show for in the end.
My 3 cents!
Peace.
Epic post by Doug. He and RSD win at life. As for M0ystery, he just fails..
I watched The Mind Of Mystery and now I lost my respect for Mystery. I just think he is a loser… Did they call it The Holy Grail or THE SHITIE GRAIL? anywayz You wanna check something new out well Carlos Xuma is the man!
triple Threat DVDs coming out next week hehe
Carlos Xuma is also terrible and a money whore just like Mystery. I have a hard time believing that he’s an alpha male. And how many freakin’ times does he have to rehash the same material? Yes, his Triple Threat DVD looks exactly like his previous courses. Is he trying to be David DeAngelo or Ross Jeffries or something?
I wish Carlos Xuma would make millions. In my opinion, his stuff is gold. I find is his philosophy to be much grounded and realistic. I think it’s more where it’s at.
DougPUA
Hey all guys waitin for PUA finale recap from Thundy…..instead head over to
http://mehow.tv/blog/?p=77
Mehow gives a brutally unbiased review on the second to last show of VH1 PUA, but if you search for it he reviews each episode on his blog. After reading it it completely changed the way I viewed the show. Mehows blog is much better than this lame ass show.
Mystery method is being sold on ebay for over 2 grand….hmmm 2G’s to lay hot babes. Well for 2 big ones. I can go to the bunny ranch and lay a couple of HBs.
I’m the first one to admit $2000 is a lot. But consider this, how much $$ have you spent on post-secondary education? How much time have you spent? All for what? A $100,000/year job? What is the point in having a good job and lots of money if your lonely? I would personally rather have an average job, (and I know someone is going to interpret that as working at McDonalds, no, thats not an AVERAGE job) and have hundreds of women.
Think about the amount of Time/Money/effort people put into “book learned” education when realistically, someone with a good personality/lots of friends/ the life of the party tends to get the job anyways.
I think $2000 is a SMALL price to pay for a lifetime of happyness.
I am in no way a “nerd” or have had a hard time getting women. I got hooked into the PUA community from reading the game and to further perfect my game.
The Venutian Arts’ Mystery Method can be used by ANYONE, not just nerds. I applaud Mystery for creating such an easy to follow routine that has such a high success rate. These canned lines were only created for the guys who dont know what else to say.
If you watch Mystery’s in-field footage, he doesn’t stick with his canned lines. He may beat around them, his conversations are more fluid that most “players” you see in the bars.
We all know Mystery/Style are the best thing that ever happend to the the community. No doubt there will always be haters out there. But you have to respect the guy for his contributions.
You have to be kidding.
The more people use indirect method and canned material (aka MM) the better for all the other PUAs
hehe
Its funny how most of you are now insulting Mystery in the same way RJ was trashed on this site a couple of years ago. Is it because their techniques were used by people too lazy to take the time to master the material?
I’ve seen SS work for competent students. I’ve MM work for competent students.
I’ve DYD work for competent students.
Sure all these guys over hype and over charge for their stuff. And the communities revenge was to file share all of their overpriced crap and glean out the few jewels in each system.
Now there are hundreds of so called seduction / pua gurus out there. Most of them really suck. Anyone can steal other’s material and put it into an ebook.
To the Gurus: Become impeccable and teach methods that really work.Get the results yourself, first.Know who youre students are.
Stop promising them “fantasy results”. If you’re students are too lame, too fat, too ugly, too poor for your system to work, say so from the get go. Tell them what the realities are. Stop telling them they will nail models, and centerfold females. Tell them that they will mostly be banging the low hanging fruit of the female world. For most of these dorks it will still be better than dating their palms. And if you dont want your stuff ripped off, stop charging an arm and a leg for it.
To the wannabe PUAs: Stop buying into these fantasy scenarios offered by people who only know a little more than yourself. They are out for your money, not for your well being.
Take a good look at yourself. Are you really the kind of guy a model is going to get wet over?
Yes you can learn to get laid. Yes you can learn to be popular with women. However you will need to get some valid training and practice it like your life depends on it.And you need to have realistic expectations about the kind of women you will attract in your life. Some might be hot, most won’t.Most of the Gurus arent getting the kind of females themselves that they promise to deliver to you. You won’t always either.
It better to get laid than not at all however.
To the Established PUA/Seducer. There is no magic pill, secret opener, or special system that once learned will give you the open sesame to the world of lingerie models.
The fact is pu is a numbers game. You win one, lose twenty. Your skill and success as a seducer is largely contingent on your willingness to perfect what you already know, not some new pie in the sky technique.
The Octoberman has been available for over a year. There hasnt been a new era of easy sex with beautiful women as a result, has there?
No.
Have Fun
Al
HERE HERE!! Oh also the numbers game thing – fucking A – I might sometimes be losing 30 in a row and go WTF but then next thing I know I land a succession of girls. Its happened even the opposite. One weekend I landed 3 different chicks in three days. Woke up in bed with one and went to sleep with another then woke up with her and went to sleep with another then the next morning she leaves. Then I might not have any new successes for almost a month. Of course I lived in a target weak location but still. It happens.