BIG News About The Annihilation Method
May 22, 2006 by Thundercat
Filed under News
Neil Strauss sent out an email today dropping a bomb about the Annihilation Method…
Style writes:
I WILL **NOT** TEACH THE ANNIHILATION METHOD AGAIN.Not in person anyway.
I MIGHT release the DVDs, however.
Back before we started having problems with getting the DVDs made, I placed an order for 375 sets to be printed.
The reason I placed such a small order was because there was only a handful of people on my mailing list at the time …and because I didn’t want to turn the Annihilation Method into a "commodity" type thing where everyone could use it.
(That would make it lose some of its power.)
Anyway – to make a long story short, I actually PAID IN ADVANCE to get these DVDs made.
So it looks like I’ll be sitting on 375 DVDs of the entire Annihilation Method class in a few days.
And that makes me wonder …
——————————————-
SHOULD THIS BE MADE AVAILABLE?
——————————————-At first glance, I would say yes.
But when you consider the fact that many people didn’t get yesterday’s email for some mysterious reason …and that my website went down …you have to wonder.
Is something trying to keep you from learning the Annihilation Method?
Again, I know it sounds strange …but think about it!
Anyway – that’s the "official" answer.
I **MIGHT** release the DVDs.
If I do, I’ll do it this week …and I’ll ONLY release the 375 copies that are being printed up right now.
I’ll keep you posted.
So you heard it here. Neil has only 375 copies of these DVDs, and he MIGHT make them available to the public — SOMETIME THIS WEEK!
Having attended the Annihilation Method workshop myself, I can tell you for a fact that this stuff is solid GOLD. Every single person who attended the workshop left there a changed man. This course will be filled with the BEST pick-up information out there, and knowing Neil, its going to be a top-quality production too.
And this stuff is guaranteed not to get saturated because there’s so few copies. This is an exciting time. =)
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Ha Ha first BETA’s. MY NEW THEORYs will annihilate player game.
and I stink
how much guys, lets have some guesses — $300 -$400 – $500?
$600 – $700 – $800
Style’s ego is massive. He isn’t having dundercat drag this out with all this transparent drama to charge 500 bucks. He is gonna try and hit a home run.
With 23,000 subscribers and only 375 dvd sets, I guess that it will be over $3,000. There will be 375 guys, suckers, who will fork over that kind of cash to get in on this once in a lifetime opportunity.
Zuzu
I wonder how much of the half million will go to Dunderfat for writing all the weak ass marketing pieces.
I say he gets 15 grand and a sack of White Castles.
Zuzu
C’mon… Neil’s running game… the “scarcity” frame.
It’s digital video. By definition binary data can be copied an INFINITE number of times.
Thundie knows the Analelation method but still can’t get laid.
I bet Style has 375 DVD’s available, plus whatever he sells. This ad campaign is PLAYED OUT bitches.
Eben
69/69
Guess I’ll just wait until it hits P2P! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
This blog has degenerated into pure shit. I don’t know whats worse, your rampant guru asskissing/product marketing or the legion of flamers who come here to argue over the internet. So.. since TC thinks he’s gonna use his “lair” to tool his readers, I think it ought to be reminded for anyone who is tempted to open his wallet, and doesn’t know otherwise- E-mule, Kazaa, Limewire, Bittorrent, Overnet- (to name a few) – are all p2p programs from which you can download all this shit for free. MM to DYD to Ross Jeffries shit to Swinggcat to Gunwitch stuff, its all there to download free. Styles shit will be there too, just give it a few weeks after his “release”. Thanks.
Fuck that – with the movie and reality show comming up thanks to you, don’t think you’re the messiah with this “anihalation method” shit.
What a fuckin’ hypocrite.
lol @ 375…where did they pull that number from…anyways, there will be torrents of this “method” soon enough, if you catch my drift
BULLSHIT, He’s running game on us. Probably had 1,000 made up.
I joined up style’s newsletter after seeing it mentioned here a while back. It said he would talk about techniques and game. So im thinking there is nothing to lose, it’s free and he might share something useful.
I dont mind product plugs, as long as its mixed in with some actual useable information. But since i’ve joined all i’ve gotten is bullshit marketing and hype.
“Dear friend” it’s the most powerful technique ever blah blah blah..
Who actually believes shit like this?
“it’s so amazing im only releasing limited numbers…”.
Yeah right, gimme a fucking break.
Dont claim a newsletter has something to share and then spam everyone with bullshit stories and cheesy marketing.
I can’t wait for Steve Piccus’ shit to get out on the P2P network. I’ve already downloaded Stephane’s squirt video. Hell, I even downloaded thundy’s garbage on emule!
Cheapskates of the world unite!
What a scam.
You know, if these guys actually charged a reasonable price for their materials, they would be able to sell much more of it, which would create lots of word-of-mouth advertising.
Sounds like the only one getting Annhilated is some poor suckers wallet.
If it’s priced reasonably I’ll definitley pick it up.
Style accused me of being a virgin at MM seminar. I told him I fucked hookers before.
FUCK YOU STYLE YOU FUCKFACE!!!
Wait! Weren’t the interviews supposed to be secret? Here is a quote from the e-mail I got…
“But like I said yesterday
… NOT EVERYONE CAN GET IN ON THIS.
I’m only inviting a select few people
on this list to check it out.”
NOT EVERYONE CAN GET IN but it is on thundercats main site. Style can eat a dick, I’ve lost so much respect for him.
As a guy who has been around for only the past year I can say without a doubt after reading this site I feel seriously depressed when I leave
There is so much negativity and BS and marketing crap…it’s sickening
Yeah it was fun reading some gossip and making funny comments – but even that is getting old
I think it is affecting my game
TC I once respected your journalism but dude you really are a hypocrite
So enjoy the $$$ you will make off the 365 suckers
Anyway I am done with this place
This will be my last post
Enjoy the negative effects on your game by reading TC’s blog
“Style can eat a dick, I’ve lost so much respect for him.”
Ditto. You would think a NYT writer would be above using super-lame marketing techniques, especially when he doesn’t need them to sell the product.
what wrong with you TC. This shit suppossed to be a secret. Do you even care what style says. That message is only for few people to know. YOur full of shit TC.
This is complete amateur sales 101 horseshit. 375 copies? What a liar he is. That is scarcity marketing, which does not exist with digital media, nice try asshole.
He’ll sell it for a hundreds bucks, in the hopes of selling thousands.
Neil Strauss is a sellout and a scammer, at this point. I bet half of his book is utter horseshit.
That little bald-headed twirp is just exploiting the stupid, AFC losers, and trying to cash-in while he can. He only has a year or two before the market is tapped out.
What a creep Neil Strauss is. Someone should do an investigation into his book, and find all the lies. He’s a fraud.
This truly is pathetic.
Ya know, messing around with Ray Gordon is one thing. That’s just comic relief.
But Neil has fallen to new lows with this latest BS. I suspect the price will b $297.50
(Market research has identified that to be the “ideal” price)
Now, he might try for more. I mean, if he’s really ran successful game on his followers, he could ask any price he wants.
Hmm …
Actually, I’ve just changed my mind.
Syle, you’re a genius.
Best,
G13
Style takes 45 mins to get a kiss close, I take about 5 mins to get A THREESOME.
And it’s documented on video, too:
http://www.chetsdatingsystem.com/video_adventures.htm
Style will charge $1000 for the dvds. He is SOOO cool that it will be worth it. Read his super advanced field report from back in the day:
http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?action=retrieve&grp=6&mn=105834527590694
Hey I charge $19.95 for ALL of my writing, including anything I might put out in the future, and that includes multimedia. I figured at $20 per reader I’d do just fine (and it does make money), and why should anyone pay more when everything is digital and doesn’t cost anything much to ship? I even include that $19.95 value if people buy any affiliate product through my site, and that covers everything. If the other product you want is on my list, you can get mine in addition to it by using my link.
I think gurus should give lifetime upgrades because the theory will change and the students shouldn’t have to keep paying for new ideas. Maybe $50 or $100 or even $500 for some gurus would be worth it, but whatever the price, an audience of even 20,000 men should be enough for the guru to retire on, at which point he can’t use the “I gotta make a living” excuse.
On the upside, Neil is building the industry even if for now he’s the only one cashing in. If his information doesn’t hold up, his customer base is up for grabs as they keep searching for answers. Even if it does hold up, he’s got them in the habit of buying.
He is not the only one cashing in, Ray. RJ and David D are millionaires. Mystery is getting there. Lance Mason and RSD have a pretty good lifestyle too.
You’re the only one not cashing in, even though you entered the market before most of these guys.
Maybe you could take a moment to pause and think about why ?
There will be WAAAY more than 375 copies made.
How many of Style’s promises to “keep this a secret”, “only a few people”, “i’m not going to release this EVER because its too powerful”, etc has he kept?
Its all marketing, this has been planned all along. I’m sure part of the reason its taken him so long to release it is because he was having thousands of copies made.
Thundercat is a salesman. Thats what he does. This site is nothing but marketing. Thats what its for. His job is to sell shit.
I’ll bet Style doesn’t even write those emails. Each one has Thundercat’s business address on the bottom.
We’ve all seen his sales letters for Masterclass, Steve Piccus, etc. These emails look exactly the same (minus all the red).
Look at his first email where he talks about using the Black Mirror Technique on that girl to prove a point. Its total marketing bullshit. Like Style would be stupid enough to be surprised that a girl who asked to come up to his room wanted to sleep with him. Thats something Thundercat thinks will sell shit. Anyways, he says that his girlfriend is cool but not THAT cool………..do you think Style would be retarded enough to let that girl up to his room? And if he did, why would he put that shit into a mass email. I’m pretty sure Lisa’s first reaction if it were true would sound something like this:
“What the fuck!?!?!?!”
Seriously, if that WERE a true story, it couldn’t have been an accident, and Style would have alot to answer for. There’s no fucking way that Style wouldn’t know that sex was on her mind. Lisa obviously knows its all bullshit marketing. (you could say that style is a PUA and calls the shots in his relationship, but then again you could only say that if you hadn’t read “The Game”)
Style and Thundercat have lost ALL of my respect. This whole fiasco is absolutely pathetic. And in my opinion these marketing ploys are an insult.
Style has lost ALL of his credibility and has shown a tremendous lack of integrity — proving himself a loser despite his self-proclaimed accomplishments. He has ruined his name by showing his personality.
This whole thing leaves me absolutely disgusted.
Thundercat: You are such a fucking moron. I’m sure you on some level are a good guy, but jesus! You fucked up. I would NEVER have marketed a friends product in such a shameless, haphazzard, unethical way. You have RUINED you name and Neil’s (all of them). You fucked up so bad. You NEVER treat your potential customers like they’re idiots. Thats how you lose people and people deserve much better. You could have created just as much hype and interest by actually doing something cool for the community instead of treating us like your average late-night surfer who stumbles onto your crappy form letters after running a google search on picking up chicks. You have lost your audience and traded them for “average suckers”. You guys could have marketed correctly, had EVERYONE interested, not lost respect from the community, and not ruined Style’s name. But, instead you had to pull this shit. You and your site are now pathetic. You no longer contribute ANYTHING to the community….everyone can tell its all about fucking money now. NOBODY respects that.
Style: I’m disappointed in what you’ve allowed yourself to do. You have shown serious character flaws that are unrecoverable if you continue on your current course.
The Community: You deserve better.
Its one thing to have a form-letter for people who run a search for your product. Everyone understands that. But to treat (what was) your own community like they’re a bunch of idiots; to lie — thats disgraceful.
And to think you guys were doing so well when you started doing the teleconferences. THAT was the right idea. THAT kind of stuff along with a mutual understanding that you are selling a product but wanting to put something great into the community is what sells your stuff. AAHHHH!!!! I’m so fucking pissed off. Actually I’m not. I’m disappointed. (I know I didn’t need to type all that…but I felt it. And I’m leaving all my thoughts intact.)
Thats it. Does eveyone agree with me?
To anyone who doesn’t know:
The Black Mirror Technique is on the “Underground Hypnosis” course and has been in the public for a LOOONG time. Style didn’t invent it. He just talks like he did. He may have changed it a little, but apparently not enough to come up with a new name for it.
Its just more bullshit.
I have no more trust for either of you.
BTW: I could have sold WAAAY more of this product without resorting to this shit.
Presentation is for your average “fresh” customer. For everyone else, treat them like your best friend — because thats what they are. If you wouldn’t do it to your best friend, don’t do it to your customer (especially our community!). And if you would do it to your best friend….you’re truly lost.
yea i think that neill straus (stile( maybe gameing the bros rathur than the hos
.
game on bors
Hey I charge $19.95 for ALL of my writing, including anything I might put out in the future, and that includes multimedia. I figured at $20 per reader I’d do just fine (and it does make money), and why should anyone pay more when everything is digital and doesn’t cost anything much to ship? I even include that $19.95 value if people buy any affiliate product through my site, and that covers everything. If the other product you want is on my list, you can get mine in addition to it by using my link.
I think gurus should give lifetime upgrades because the theory will change and the students shouldn’t have to keep paying for new ideas. Maybe $50 or $100 or even $500 for some gurus would be worth it, but whatever the price, an audience of even 20,000 men should be enough for the guru to retire on, at which point he can’t use the “I gotta make a living” excuse.
You don’t know anything about VALUE do you?
Your material can not compare to MM or RJ…their stuff works Ray…you are lucky to get 20 for yours.
HERE IS another reason why RAY WILL NOT meet Mystery:
Here is the email we sent to a producer of the Jerry Springer Show:
To: springerproducer…@XXXXXX.com
From: TheEditorialStaff
Subject: A show proposal…
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:11:07 +0000
Dear Producer Xxxxxxxxxx:
We are writing to you to propose a possible show for
Mr. Springer.
Recently, on the Internet Newsgroup “alt.seduction.fast”
there has been a disagreement between two parties, one
claiming to be a “guru” of seducing women, and the other,
(who is not a follower of the self-styled “guru”) over
the viability of a man maintaining relationships with more
than one woman at a time.
The “guru” challenged the other person to produce a woman
“in a public place” who would agree that it was acceptable
for a man to have more than one relationship at a time, and
the other person accepted. At this point, the “guru” began
to change the conditions of the challenge, declaring that
the only way it would be acceptable, would be to appear on
your television program.
We offered to be an intermediary between the two, and to act
as a liason, between your television program and the two
individuals. The argument between them has been volatile at
times, to the point of litigation being threatened on more
than one occasion. We can suggest to you that with proper
publicity, there would be a solid viewership of this episode
of your program.
We are not joking.
We are perfectly serious in making this suggestion. In the
event that you do produce a show around this topic, we can
suggest that you would have a solid viewership, especially
if it were advertised on the usenet newsgroup “alt.seduction.fast”.
There are persons who post there who are also members of
several other forums, all of whom would be interested
in promoting or possibly participating in this program.
We would like to know if it would be possible for you to
contact these individuals, and express your interest in
creating an episode of your show, about men who create
techniques to “seduce” women. The one “guru” who would be
the most difficult to get to agree to appear on your program
has claimed to have written several books on the subject,
and advertises his product as being able to teach a man to
obtain “total sexual control” over any woman. He also
advertises hypnotic control material, as well as erotic
hypnosis materials. He claims to be a business rival to
other entrepreneurs in the market of teaching men how to
meet women.
We are extremely interested in creating the possibility of
getting these two persons together on your program, along
with the girlfriend of the one who disagreed with the
self-styled “seduction guru”.
We have complete contact information from both of them, and
would be willing to forward that information to you to arrange
a line of communication between yourself, and both parties.
Please reply by return email.
Cordially,
The Editorial Staff
———————————————————————
Here is the reply we received from the Jerry Springer people:
To: TheEditorialStaff
Subject: Re: A show proposal…
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:42:37 EST
Return-Path:
Dear Editorial Staff:
We are interested in creating an episode around this
disagreement. However, if you are referring to the
person who calls himself “Ray Gordon” in your message,
we are not likely to be able to do so.
We are very familiar with Mr. Gordon, and already have
his contact information. We have in fact contacted him
on two separate occasions over the weekend to attempt to
confirm his willingness to participate in such a program.
The first call resulted in a demand to stop “harassing”
him, and the second was a hysterical diatribe threatening
legal action if we did not stop calling. Unless you are
able to have him contact us we will not be able to proceed
with planning any such episode of our show.
Please call my associate producer on our toll free number
if you are able to have either party speak to us 888 ### 53##
Thanks, speak with you soon.
Producer Xxxxxxxxxx
———————————————————————
One of the Editors called this producer, and had a lengthy chat
about the challenge, how it had been made, and how it ended up
being ducked by Raimundo Bizarro. The posts were forwarded to the
producer, and in fact, the producer logged onto the newsgroup to
read them while we were on the phone. All in all, everyone had a
good laugh, and aside from those two attempts to contact Gordito
Bozo, nothing ever came of that challenge either.
He ducks them all like the pink-pantied coward that he is.
He will continue to change the conditions of this challenge,
and Mystery will end up losing patience with the Mental Case
that is harassing him, and nothing will come of it, for the
simple reason that Ray-Ray the Dancing Eunuch isn’t worth
Mystery’s time or effort. We all know it, and more importantly,
the Impotent Imbecile knows it.
on a related topic, check this out:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0312360118/sr=8-13/qid=1148392920/ref=sr_1_13/102-0306464-1648161?%5Fencoding=UTF8
looks like mystery’s book will be available on amazon in november for 12.97. funny that it’s going for almost 70 on mystery’s site.
looks like mystery’s book will be available on amazon in november for 12.97. funny that it’s going for almost 70 on mystery’s site.
That is interesting. Hey Ray, I guess you’ll post a comment on amazon about how all that material was stolen from you right..Laughing…morron
HEY ROSS JEFFRIES…awhile back you said you were about to release a product that would make everything worthless…WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO DO THIS?
Answer up now, I know you read this board.
I have returned!
I’ve had my sex change operation reversed so am no longer known as mama, back to papa. I got tired of fucking myself so thought I’d become papa again so I can fuck other people instead.
So what’s going on with you chaps?
kisses, papa. x
“So you heard it here. Neil has only 375 copies of these DVDs, and he MIGHT make them available to the public — SOMETIME THIS WEEK!”
Woah. If people hadn’t heard of Cilandi’s principle of scarcity… or if Thundy hadn’t bashed out the same marketing ALL the time… this might be convincing
All this is pure hyped bullshit.
If you want to give your money away, just give it to us instead!
I’ll send Tyler round to let you all fist him if you like?
You’ll have to pay extra for me though cos’ I’m extra tight!
kisses,
papa x
I heard that Thundercat is a VIRGIN…no joke. He just knew where this seduction thing was going so he got in on it. Does anyone have a pic of Thundercat?
You should go and release it Style!!!!!!!!
I’ll do my best to put the DVDs in file sharing networks….
You should go and release it Style!!!!!!!!
I’ll do my best to put the DVDs in file sharing networks….
Laughing…you guys crack me up…:)
I guess that would be applying the ANNIHILATION METHOD to the DVD’s
Ray has been applying the ANNIHILATION METHOD to his LIFE. It works for him…:)
Ray when are you going to post a step by step foxhunting sarge?….chicken
http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?action=retrieve&grp=3&mn=1109152604209431
FRANCO THE SICK MOTHER FUCKER FLIRTS WITH HIS DAUGHTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?action=retrieve&grp=3&mn=1109152604209431
FRANCO THE SICK MOTHER FUCKER FLIRTS WITH HIS DAUGHTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?action=retrieve&grp=3&mn=1109152604209431
FRANCO THE SICK MOTHER FUCKER FLIRTS WITH HIS DAUGHTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For example my Russian wife lets me INNOCENTLY (and I repeat: INNOCENTLY!)
flirt with her daughter because she understood that by doing like that I give
her a positive image about being with a man. The positive psychological effect
of this on her daughter has been in one year simply IMPRESSIVE!
So?….looks like a Ray Gordon post to me.
He isn’t trying to bed her…I tell my daughter when a dress looks good on her, is that evil too?.
I hope you never have a child, it will feel unloved.
“He isn’t trying to bed her”
Franco will fuck anything with a hole that moves. Even his own mother
So- Flirting is NOT compliments u retarded newbie scum.
In mASF and Franco terms it means TEASING and spiking BUYING TEMPERATURE
He truly is a sick fuck. And he made some guy piss on his gf’s dress
At RSD we teach you how to piss into each others mouths. Sign up for a bootcamp now.
So- Flirting is NOT compliments u retarded newbie scum.
He truly is a sick fuck. And he made some guy piss on his gf’s dress
Sounds like you’re jealous. He would probally piss on your dress if you asked him nicely.
Look, we’ll teach you to piss on who ever you want, how to drink others piss and how to shit in each others mouths ok?
Just sign up for a bootcamp please!!!!!!!!!!
We’re desperate! When Style releases his annihilation method, I’m going to release my bowels!!!!!!!!!! It’ll be the end of us all!!!!!!!!
Let’s all promise not to buy it ok and everyone can sleep with chessclub ok? Or Tyler?
kisses,
papa x
The separate “Lairs” of the community are all turning into circle jerk led by blind men. Yo bro your game is so $$$$ blah blah your game is so tight, good post man. My fucking lair is turning into that with 50 million newbies sucking each other dicks.
The game used to be about trying stuff out and seeing what works. It is now turning into dogma.
OR places like this turn into ultimate flamefest + “selling overpriced things to the greater fool” type marketing.
Whats next for the “community”? Seriously guys, im curious. What are predictions?