RSD is afraid of little ol’ me!
April 19, 2006 by Thundercat
Filed under News
Wow, those RSD guys must have been pissing themselves. I JUST GOT a ceast and desist letter from their attourney. It was a total pile of BS.
You gotta love lawyers. They make simple Cease and Desist claims sound like your last rite.
Here’s the thing, why would anyone who had nothing to hide need a cease and decist? After all, these are RSD’s own words! Why would they be ashamed to have them in the public eye?
Maybe because… they’re UNETHICAL? They show IMMORAL TACTICS?
Anyway, I’m gonna comply with this sucker and take the offending documents offline. So you won’t be able to get them here any more. And since I was doing a public service and not profiting off this stuff, they don’t have a legal leg to stand on here.
BUT, this is what people do when they get scared they’re going to be revealed. They run to their lawyers and try to bully others into not speaking out. They hide behind the LAW so they can keep being unethical.
Let everyone know, that in my unprofessional opinion, that RSD knows what they do to students, but wants to keep everyone else from knowing about it.
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If in fact that is the real Mystery might I suggest.
2 contests. 1 winner.
Stripper Venues. Stripper Venue A) 5-4-5 contest.
Stripper Venue B) Ray Gordons idea of Both in 1 set. Ray can approach 3 first and Mystery gets to Approach 3 first. Ultimately both guys will run game on all sets though.
This is about the fairest conterst you can have. The winner is the winner, hands down. Everyone gets a little of their way.
No Excuses.
Shake hands afterwords, gentlemen. No sore losers.
BTW you may want to put the date off for at least 1 month so both parties involved have time to plan and meet.
No dropping of dates you think the other party may not be able to attend to. Let’s do this in a fair and timely manner so it is as legitimate as possible.
That was not really me. I accept Ray’s challenge, but only if its at Adelita’s in TJ, and we both get to carry 20 dollars worth of pesos.
Love !Mystery
Since mystery is teaching a seminar on April 30, that probably wasn’t him.
Me Challenge dool to Gordon Ray and Mystery both!
They become Crushed by my seduction awesome powers and losE!
Women me love more than Mystery fake and gordon ray. They not chance a stand!
I closefuck every day stripper women my fantastic method with!
LMFAO the RSD application was HILARIOUS. TC you should post that on your front page hahah.
FUCK YOU SLIEKMAN YOU FUCKING CUNT. YOU SAY I RUINED YOUR LIFE WELL YOU RUINED MY FUCKING BUSINESS SO YOU CAN KISS MY ASS. IM NOT GIVING YOU YOUR MONEY BACK FOOL I USED IT TO BUY A NEW FERRARI AND NEW MARBLE FLOORS FOR MY KITCHEN SO YOU CAN SUCK MY COCK.
FUCKING PRICK
Allright people. I found a nice site on the net, and I think you should take a look.
http://www.the-niceguy.com/Sexism.php
It’s a very good site. It explains what I’ve tried explaining a few times now on this here blog. Only to not be understood and put a question mark on the head of whoever read the post or attacked by some pussy who is incapable of using right brain hemisphere.
It explains basically how women exploit the good nature, of men… with good nature. Commonly known in the community as a “nice guy”. Men readily come to sites like this to change there “flawed” ways and become “PUA’s”. But what they don’t realize is that even then, they are still bending towards the will of the average women. Even if they “know” that they do this on occasion, ther STILL really don’t know.
The brainwashing goes deep, and it has been going since the day you were born. One of the worst things is, that when a guy is showing that he TRULY gets it, other GUYS will come down on him for doing something that he did. Like that pussy basterd who complained about a guy pissing on his girlfriends dress a few days ago.
“This is what the seduction community has become” he wrote. Fucking drone, that girl was being a hypocrit bitch and she deserved it. And it’s idiots like you who keep up the farce that women, even if they behave in the most immoral ways, should always be protected, assisted, favoured etc. by men.
Read the site porkchop. And the rest of you should read it to, especially if your feeling of balance, got inner game problems, wether it’s just lately or since forever, have or have been “catering” to women or if your an idiot like the guy I quoted above.
To often men forget about all the things that women do that are wrong and only think about the things that they might do, or “have done” wrong against women. This creates guilt, guilt creates uncertainty, uncertainty creates fear, fear creates that curious dry feeling between your legs (say what you want about David D. but the guy sure is funny(H))
You see, it’s not fear of rejection that prevents guys from doing their thing, it’s the fear of doing something wrong. The fear of offending a woman or having a woman get mad at you etc. Because we somehow believe that we should always consider a womans feelings in reaction of our behaviour. We somehow believe that if a woman gets upset with you, it’s because of something YOU did wrong. BIG fucking mistake.
Guys, women know this, wether it’s concious or subconcious, and they use this knowledge to neuter you, steralize you, castrate you, and in all ways rob you of your manhood.
Look, just check out the site, read the text located at the link, and a lot, if not everything, will become clear.
The Darkchild
>To the person that said I’m an asshole:
Fuck you, you incompetent nobody. I get laid, you don’t. If you have a problem with that, you can take it up with me personally instead of talking shit behind my back. You are just a worthless waste of space that is jealous of me.
Useless miscreant.
LOL I wasn’t the guy who said you were an asshole before, but I will say it now. What an Asshole!
I bet Im getting laid and you’re not.
Maybe you wouldn’t be so angry if you were actually working off some of that aggression with sexual activity.
Im starting to wonder if these workshop/bootcamps are just a big con operation – the blind leadiong the blind.
No guy who is sexually satisfied is gonna give a shit about some rube saying he’s an asshole on TCs blog.
>
That wasn’t Sinn. Keep in mind anyone can be anyone here.
Good point!
Buy my new DVD series!
I don’t have a new dvd set yet but something bigger is in the works right this minute with you’re KING!
A friend sent me David’s stuff, it is enjoyable to watch and I like his serious approach. (Originals NOT copies), so David got paid. He reads a lot of educational books and this a great way to get to the goal faster if you want to be in the winners circle. However, if a guy has one-itis his skills will rust.
Elvis Preston King,
The world’s number 1 man in the Game.
You’re right, anyone can be anyone on here.
Also, exactly HOW do we know that Mystery is better than Brent? I’m honestly wondering ‘cuz they’re basically opposites – besides being tall.
anyway, buy my best of records and don’t smoke!
-Sammy
So……Mystery is scared I presume?…hmmmmm…not surprised here.
‘The world’s number 1 man in the Game’ – What game is that Elvis? Prositution?
hey guys,
on my next update i might make a list where i can reveal the real usernames behind those synonyms that are used here. it is pretty funny to see, where those posts come from. I compared the IP’s and that stuff with original posts of the users, that show their acronyme.
now how is that legally? am i allowed to post that? any lawyer can give me info?
cheers,
thundercat
The Darkchild wrote:
This is it! The heart of all my problems.
THE AFC SOCIETY CONSPIRACY!!!!!
I really wish I was rich and there was a place in real life like in that movie in “Hostel”. You know, where rich guy’s can go and pay to maim and torture and kill people.
I’d pay $15,000 for some pathetic supplicating AFC and really make him suffer for helping to make my life unbearable.
And I’d pay $25,000 for a manipualtive hoe who uses Tits & Ass to get what she wants EVERYTIME!
Last but not least, I’d pay $50,000 for a FEMINAZI. That’s right! One of the perpatrators of this whole damned conspiracy.
I can just see it now… using scalpels, hammers, pliers, whips, chains, branding irons, chain saws and chinese wrist burns I’ll make them suffer for making me suffer!
THEY’LL REGRET IT WHEN THEY’RE DEAD!
This sounds like the Annihilation Method, the part of fixing your inner game. Don’t steal it, Cyril!
check it out
http://puapics.white.prohosting.com/
Holy shit!
Look at the beak on Pornhandle.
I think he needs to get that part of his life handled. Anyone recomend a good plastic surgeon?
great site with the pictures
Summary for any other poor sucker that needs to sift through all the rubbish
• Most people are calling each other dicks or cunts and people want to fight each other.
• Some dude who can’t read that well wants to take on Mystery too see who is best.
• Oh and RSD are the evil incarnate.
• That’s about it!…..
It is no surprise that people/customers are worried about the direction the “community” is going. I got into pick up about five months ago and thought a boot camp might help. After feeling the negative vibe from almost every front, competing businesses, Direct vs. Indirect game. Inner vs. Outer game, trolls and flamers. I have steered clear from over exposure to the “community”. I have tried to filter to the important core elements. The basic structure of a pick up and a few stories and openers and read some FR’s.
Sure a boot camp could help me calibrate some finer points in my game and it would be amazing to see a PUA moves in action. I just don’t think it is worth the £ or the hassle of having to chose a direction in PU. I have read a little mystery method and some StevePUA (because he is from the UK) and some excellent stuff on some blogs, The Natural Game Journals and On Becoming a Pickup Artist in particular.
I have been out in the field getting success and have built my game up slowly. I have an awesome pivot that I pump for information and get loads of social hook up’s from and have a kick ass natural friend that is a closing machine. Seriously a 15 minute full monty close last Sunday, lol.
If you have an ounce of social talent i.e. you can venue change a group, tell a cool joke to make a group laugh and you can find a pivot or wingman to get in the field on a regular basis I would say steer clear of the boot camps and go out and have some fun.
I came out of a dry spell of almost two years and since I started PU I have averaged one a month, sure not legendary by any means but hell I am having some FUN!
Pick up should be fun right?
Tallerguy (UK)
“He who hesitates, masturbates”
Fun?
FUN!!!
How can it be “fun” when there is an AFC/FEMINAZI conspiracy which has hightened my approach anxiety?
You lying limey a-holes make me want to toss my cookies.
Even better:
http://puapics.white.prohosting.com/ratings.html
>Mystery can’t possibly lose. Its like having a foot race with a 3 year old. Mystery doesn’t consider Ray to be a worthy challenge, in fact no one does. Besides Ray would never show up.
agreed. Nobody in the community has yet met Ray. Many have tried. Even I tried. He wont come out.
So if someone who is trusted in the community can meet him first then of course Id challenge Ray. What is the contest though? I want a PU contest, a 545 in a strip club with secret witnesses, secret audio/video whatever we can manage. but an eminem style rap-off makes no sense to me. the girl isnt going to CHOOSE ONE OVER THE OTHER. With this being a NORMAL PU contest of COURSE Im all up for it … but the fuckin’ RAY GUY doesnt fuckin’ tell us where he lives. its frustrating. this ray jackoff needs to be MET and this enigma resolved finally. Who IS this guy? is he really a retard? please someone whos met the guy tell me cause i dont want to … fuck it
lets clarity the challenge rules already Ray. and lets get away from you being IN my fucking set. thats just trash talkin’ shit which is NOT PU – Id just get 2 pivots to chop you in your throat anyways.
Mystery
(PS: not all the Mystery posts in this thread are from me you should note – generally then you read something smart, its really me)
^^^
Yet another Mystery Imposter. He even admits it at the end of his own post.
And this is what the seduction community is all about?
>As much as I respect you, all I can say is that the above statement is not fair. Not everyone has access to a Rolling Stones writer who can write articles and books about ourselves.
EVERYONE can build a social circle with successful wings.
>That will never be “GAME”. I thought the whole point of “GAME” was that you didn’t need those things.
hey, body building is part of the game lets not forget. and making money and all those other things. Ive just PROVED by example that you can get hot girls without money or a car or your own place and now am building my game in a more wholistic CONGRUENT IDENTITY sorta way lately. I dont need to polish my opening game so I am polishing my pre-open game.
>Also, you’ve advocated going to third world countries a couple of times already. I hope you’re not being serious.
hey im not a hater. he’s got his shtick in the DR and it works for him. I personally wouldnt promise girls a life in america and not provide but other than that, TWG is a legit way to get laid. so is the russian bride thing. its not what works best for you but what you decide to work. Ill stick to LA and LA-scene VIP celeb game. Its fun and rewarding.
>This sounds like a silly excuse from a silly man. The purpose of us both being in set is to see who does BETTER. Who will the girl react to, me or you Mystery? You can’t handle the social pressure? Then stop proclaiming yourself as the best.
the best PICKUP ARTIST. why would I allow someone to go INTO my set before during or after and talk about me while carrying a book Im IN? could SOMEONE explain this? Im a good sport though – just to finally meet Id do it … with a 545 NORMAL PUA contest WITH IT. fair ray ol’ boy?
>How about I dumb it down for you then, we each work the same stripper alone, but I go first. I have a condition to add to this though since I’m making it simpler on you. If I win, you have to pubically admit defeat on mASF, your lounge, your front page, and here.
win what? the girl? what if she’s still my set? what if I get a number and agreement to meet her after work for instance … you know … bounce the target to a C2 location … you want to disrupt my set when? b4 the end of the night? or do you want to come back to my hotel room with her and go in after she washes up?
you CAN see how one could get confused by this form of PU. We go from MEET TO SEX where Im from Ray. your challenge not only isnt reasonable it doesnt have much to do about THE COLD APPROACH PICKUP. You want ME to go in as your wing (a person who you know stuff about) and trash talk him to DHV yourself in the hopes to trigger attraction? do you see why I cant get a fucking COMMIT from the guy? Its like when I challenged RJ. he got all weird about the rules too. why cant we just make this your typical challenge. you pick 5 girls out and try to get them. i pickout 5 girls and get them. simple.
>You also must release the video, thereby giving me the exposure that I’ve been ENTITLED to since 1998, where I invented theories and ideas, which you stole, modified, and passed them off as your own.
you are uncontrollably off your rocker. any video you can procure from this in a strip club is yours to keep (so long as no money can be made from my likeness so no profitting off my video but other than that show the world what im like in person i hide nothing – ray, where is YOUR HOME VIDEO of you hanging and singing with friends? Im not hiding anything about me. Im easy to approach.
>By the way you never did credit me in your DVD series when you used my term pivot numerous times. Asshole.
Pivot is definitely your word and I did my best to limit its use with my friends because it is such a god aweful name but as a word already in the community’s vexicon, I gave in and just use it as others freely use NEG (even TV shows). People dont credit WORDS while speaking … “Hey bro, did you NEG (* credit Mystery ’99) her?” silly.
Yes Ray … you are credited with the word PIVOT … the ONLY THING YOU GAVE THIS COMMUNITY. You are our heritage … our village idiot. congratulate yourself.
>Yes I am challenging Mystery and he is backing down on my challenge.
Im disagreeing that this is not a PU challenge. Look, so sure am I that I can get 545, nevermind simply more success than you, that Im willing to accept your terms given you dont enter my set until after Ive fucked her. so dont go cockblocking a girl Ive met first because thats the shit people get beat up for. I go in and chat up a chick for 40 minutes and its on then someone comes around and talks shit about me to her? what kind of game is that? and I have to accept that this weird guy knows me and we are having a competition? and he’ll try to use this to DHV and get her? wow. fuckin people.
>Supposedly the guy who NEVER backs away from a challenge is scared of me.
silly talk.
>That’s proof right there that I am a formidable opponent and skilled in the arts.
you ray are off your rocker. You’re Sloth from The Goonies.
>He must feel he has too much at stake to face me.
So then lets get the rules of this hammered out because I gotta tell you, if I work a set for 40 minutes and then you come in to disrupt it, my pivots will chop you in your fucking throat and have you run over by a limo … and THAT is fair game too.
>Just read Outfoxing the Foxes, it’s free on my site and you’ll see that many of the theories taught by Mystery and the other gurus were originated by ME first.
you are so off your rocker. how a man can unleash such lies bewilders me. you must be so bored that you do this … all your life. and I then get bashed for not posting for a spell so I can live my crazy life that you all read about.
>I’m quoting Ray Gordons:
>“ I can go out and pick up a sub-Elite in 24 hours if I had to.”
>If that’s true, show us!
>Mystery can. But can you?
>Do it up. Get witnesses, cameras and refs and shit. Pick neutral venues. Get this show on the road. Shit or get off the pot. That kind of thing.
Exactly. I just want him to MEET SOMEONE we know. see him in action so we know he’s an actual PUA and not a greecore.
>It’s really sad to see 2 guys bragging and neither of those guys step up.
>Mystery – Even though you can write good responses, though they are rather long and boring and full of self-aggrandizing, it doesn’t mean anything unless you 2 have actually squared off.
Ive more than offering proof of my skillset (ask around in the community – ask anyone who saw me WORK INFIELD – Ive got enough witnesses (and of course will continue showing it as I have) but NOBODY has EVER met this ray guy.
>Sure Mystery has Charm enough to have all these guys come on her and suck his dick – and that kind of makes him look good, but it doesn’t mean A THING!
perhaps my ahem, RESUME … may help. Rather than talk about private live stuff in a public forum, consider discussing this with known PUAs who have met me in person – ask them about the women they’ve seen me with and who.
>2. I was well aware that as soon as the thought arose of a SOLID contest happening between Mystery and Ray Gordon that BOTH parties would become Silent on the issue.
SILENT? Im screaming at the top of my lungs … a normal 545 contest! he wants to not have that but instead come into ALL FIVE of my sets sometime AFTER I OPENED THEM and show them The Game and trash talk me. and you think this is … completely acceptable? haa Im so frustrated by this and its all just text on my screen – thanks for the good times TC this is great fun – like going to see a movie that sucks. you laugh about it the whole way through with your friends.
>Truth would seem to have it that aside from all the posturing and brow beating that BOTH of them are Afraid of a 5-4-5 or other Sarge competition.
what silly talk. look how long this thread is! Im here. Im up for it. Im ready SEVEN YEARS!
>For some reason I think Mystery has a little problem with confidence. In other words he’s afraid that after all this work in making himself into what he is today, he is scared that a contest like this, if he lost, could cause all his work to fall apart and he would return to square 1.
this is such a child psych attempt – and of course it worked to get me to respond. you are being silly. im all up for live challenges. come on Im Mystery – do DEMO SETS LIVE for students. That’s the THING Im known for being able to do with CONSISTENCY. thats why all the hype around Mystery. but ya DID get me to respond haa.
>Shit if you are the Tribal leader why wouldn’t you JUMP at making an example out of your inferiors.
545. Im all up for a PU challenge. Im waiting for the details to be settled, like … RAY WANT CITY DO YOU LIVE IN?
>whats up with the Hypnotica challenge, wanna see that one coming. Hypnotica said he thinks it will be in the summer because you both have little time.
>Any news on that one?
yeah the last I heard it was a Formhandle vs Hypnotica contest and then I compete against the winner. Its just timing for them – Im in Vegas and planning on moving to LA and Hypnotica is in Orange Country so Id just drive down and hang at his discretion. Hyp is a manager to a strip club too which would be great fun too. its a dive place but still, sounds like a good night out with the boys.
>See you guys are shitting all over Ray and Elvis, but Shouldn’t Mystery be held to a higher standard as a guy who claims to be the best in the world?
My proof comes so far in this form:
1. quantity. some in the community know this #. its not Don Juan or Wilt Chamberlin. Its more Casanova … which brings me to:
2. quality. Ive shown some pictures of some of the women Ive shared my time with (and more) to MANY PUAs (students too). people know not only the type of women Ive dated but sometimes specific girls due to their celeb. Who won the SI challenge? *shit eating grin*
3. a method. i TEACH a method I USE. Its called Mystery Method and Im MYSTERY. I mean have you read the book? Its a very logical down to earth systematic approach. if YOU used it, doesnt it seem like it would work? now, being the man who invented it, dont you think Ive MAYBE be good at using it?!
4. seen. that’s right. Ive done BOOTCAMPS! with students. and magazine journalists. and they all wrote what they saw. and its all there on my site. ive been to lairs. ive spoken at cliffs list seminar. dyd on numberous occasions. playboy tv even. Remember: unlike Ray, community members … HAVE MET ME! For instance, Thundercat and I have sarged together (I recall he is the one who brought me to a couple strip clubs of which I pulled to FM – I always had a GF during our hangout times). Ive rolled with Swinggcat. Ive rolled with In10se. Ive even broke bread with RJ on several occasions (he did a seminar at my house). Ive met the DC lair boys, the SF lair and the pickup101 boys. Ive gamed for years with the guy who most likely got you into this community if you are new: Style. Ive been to Formhandle’s (of FastSeduction.com fame) home.
Ive MET the guys … and am certainly open to meeting more. Hell everything I go to a club I meet 2 or 3 guys who recognize me as Mystery and request pictures (which I love BTW – fun flash game which works to everyones advantage haa)
5. the game – 5 days of crying over my ex aside, the other 9 months in PH were chalk full of adventure. read about it. and how many people have their real lives revealed like that?
So Im definitely not HIDING haa.
>I mean he is the guy who has stuff to prove and yet he is also the guy who, as soon as some of these guys started posting about a definate challenge, went back into lurker mode. So did Ray, but so what. No one expects much from him.
lurker mode? I went into seminar mode and stopped posting. the fuckin’ guy wouldnt tell me which CITY he lived in. He wont fucking MEET UP.
>Mystery, you’re a coward. Ray is challenging you and you’re hiding behind your PC.
silly talk – Im a hardened in-fielder and people KNOW IT – they have seen my work LIVE.
>But guys, if Mystery is the shit, then why can’t he take on Ray Gordon’s challenge????? Perhaps the magician is scared of loosing his unofficial Internet crown as being number 1 PUA that he himself said.
silly talk. Im right HERE. the guy wont MEET PEOPLE IN REAL LIFE! what can I do? its been 7 years or MORE and the fuckin’ guy is STILL claiming a skillset yet NOBODY HAS EVER SEEN IT!
HUNDREDS (if not more if you count TV) have seen me work PU on women in live situations, I started Project Hollywood in The Game for christ’s sake. There are ORs of people who wrote about my game. I visited lairs in diff cities and gamed with some of the boys. many are former students so they saw me LIVE. I recall Chicago where I pulled to FM 3 nights running (during bootcamp – students got to see deep comfort and escalating kino on the way back to the hotel we all stayed at each night).
>Mystery is scared. If he loses to Ray, it will hurt his image and probably make him brake down again. Mystery just wants the World to know ( world = Internet men with timid personalities ) that he is the greatest PUA. And will never prove it because he can’t afford to loose to a man like Ray Gordon.
Wow you really know how to exaggerate things to the ubsurd. Look, Im RIGHT HERE. Im in Vegas right now. Im not hiding from Ray or from any other PUA – anyone who calls themselves a PUA has come out to at least some kind of summit – they are fun and there are lots of cool guys beyond the wanton unwashed PUA masses haa. In a few days I have 2 seminars in LA. Then more shit in Toronto. Im not HIDING, RUNNING AWAY, or what not. I would simply like to know that Ray is not a for REAL moron – have anyone in the community I’ve met meet him (and Ive met a LOT – you have read The Game afterall right?! People pilgrimaged to PH). Once I know he is willing to meet people (which he hasnt yet!) and isnt hiding and will gladly set up a meet and greet.
once that is done, we need to in person I suppose determine the rules to the contest. Im telling you his ANTI-MYSTERY game is contigent on my BEING THERE. And he’s going to bring in the BOOK in which Im written? What the fuck am I now supposed to open with dropping a printout of Rays posts over the last 7 years on her lap? this is just utterly silly.
now a real PUA contest where he selects 5 sets and so do I and whoever does better is the winner, Im all up for that.
I mean dont get me wrong, Ill take his silly contest just to RECORD how stupid it is, but I want to know he’s willing to meet community members first. I want to hear from them that he’s not wacked out.
What city are you in Ray? what area? what clubs do you frequent? which clubs? I want to google earth it and see if I can manage a visit and work my biz around it.
just meet up for crying out loud ray
no its really me – i posted
“Posted by: Mystery | Apr 25, 2006 5:34:02 AM” thats me
tc u need 2 get a signin thing bad its time
hey mistery are you gaming on?
game on bros
The problem is that neither of you will agree to each others terms. So here’s the solution.
545 and both in set.
if you want to make it fair, you can do a 545 then do 5 sets where either Mystery or Ray start. 2 each will start a set then you can draw straws or flip a coin to decide who gets the extra set.
10 sets total fro each guy and when all is said and done there can be no BS about saying the other guy won because he got to do it his way.
The problem with doing the 545 ONLY is exactly that. Ray will just bitch and say it was done Mysterys way and nothing will be resolved. The same goes for if you just do it Rays way. You got to combine the 2 contests so there can be ABOSLUTELY NO DOUBT when all is said and done.
Cmon dude I’ve been successful in competitive sports for most of my life, trust me on this. You don’t want a half assed contest that solves absolutely nothing. You want PROOF POSITIVE, Undisputed results.
Now you and I both know that theres probably no one in the community that will want to meet this guy. That sounds like a rather silly stipulation. Bring Fucking Wings with you. Have witnesses. It’s not like you have to hand Ray your personal information and recite your address to him. If you’re so worried about him being a freakshow make sure you got some 3rd party judges there and a couple friends to boot. Having people meet him first will not change anything if he’s interested in just you. Make sure you go to a Club where security is tight. Make sure the bouncers search and all that stuff.
Ray, If you cant do the 10 set idea where you get your way and mystery gets his your a pussy and a fraud. You can’t dictate the rules and say that EVERY SET must start with you going in first. That alone shows a lack of confidence in your abilities and I wouldn’t take up the challenge either. Even if you won no one but you would be convinced because of the way the contest was run.
It’s got to be fair and equal. There has to be witnesses and Judges. The witnesses and judges have to be smooth motherfuckers who aren’t gonna stand out in a stripclub like they’re watching. Plus it might be nice if someone can get ahold of one of those Hidden cameras Alla Alex-Jones Bohemian Grove to film as much of this as possible.
Now the only reason I was giving you guys a hard time is so you guys would put up or shut up. I don’t know either of you but am willing to give ppl benefit of the doubt until they do something to lose it. Of course the child psychology thing worked, I know how to get my way ;op
Anyways, we are SO CLOSE to getting this thing to happen. Gentelmen, let’s not back out now.
Ray VS Mystery – No Excuses Challenge.
Leeeeettt’s Get Ready to RUUUMMMBBBBLLEEEEEEEE!!!!
Mystery,
Don´t fall into these KJ´s game man. They simply want to fuck with the Rooster who is getting all the chickens. If Ray doesn´t want to accept the simple 545 challenge…its because he is a fraud. You don´t need to prove yourself to this guy. you are Mystery damn it. Ignore this fool….
Mystery
Ray lives in philadelphia, his complete address can be found by searching usenet archives via google.
But forget it man, he will NOT show up. He has done this sort of thing time and time again. If you try to meet him he will accuse you of threatening him. Hes a third class loser and you shouldn’t even be addressing him.
Hes mentally ill for christs sake.
RSD are a bunch of socially disfunct paranoia idiots spreading their fear of both men and women among the confused.
I pitty the fools putting their trust in those nutcases.
Wow…
I’m shocked. I stumbled upon this through an interest in NLP, and found RJs applied-NLP a brilliant application. This led me to reading about all the other PUAs (I’ve even picked up the lingo!)
This “community” of yours though, isn’t much more than frat boys engaging in belching contests.
I’d never think of myself as a PUA… I’ve never been trained or anything like that… but myself and most guys I know don’t find it that hard a thing to do (meet/seduce women they’re into). Is it that hard for you guys? Probably not, seeing as it’s your sport, but wouldn’t that make you, well, normal, average men? Wouldn’t it instill a quiet sort of confidence, one you didn’t feel the need to crow about?
I’m reminded of the words of a great man:
“Don’t you guys think that maybe there’s more to life than being really really, rediculously good looking?” (Zoolander)
Mystery: you’ve got class my friend. But the fact that you’re so concerned with your title or others remarks about you makes me wonder. If you’ve got the self-confidence, why even lower yourself to responding, let alone competing, with this Ray Gordon? ‘Cause other nameless spamers are calling you “chicken”?
It just seems “silly”
Anyway, each to their own, I guess. If name calling and school yard antics are your thing, I guess I’m just glad it’s confined to this one, small, lonely place on the internet.
Wasnt ray the guy who is/was sueing Ross? The pua underground or some shit?
1st is he really mentally ill or is that just a rumor? Second what evidence do you have that he has done something like this in the past? Is there proof or is it just a bunch of nonsense?
I want to know if this is just a smear job by a bunch of Mystery Worhipers or if it’s legitimate.
Hey i’ll be the first one to say, that if this guy’s actually dangerous then M shouldn’t meet him. But on the other hand if there’s just a bunch of guys with Hero Worship trying to protect their Idol then the contest should take place.
Don’t let these KJs scare you unless they can come up with proof of their allegations.
(P.S. What constitutes a KJ, is there supposed to be a Rule-Book somewhere? If I’m out pulling ass, but I still like to write as a hobby, am I still a KJ? If so Im a KJ!!!)
also maybe that “Stop the madness” guy is right. But if he is then Ray and you both should stop doing all these posts about contests that are never going to happen. Ray should cut it out and Mystery should cut it out. Just walk your seperate ways and stop egging each other on.
My hunch is though, that if you took this “stop the madness” guy to a venue and asked him to meet/seduce women he was into, that he would find an excuse as to why he didn’t want to approach/ or if he did, why the interaction fell flat on its face. Most likely he just wouldnt approach.
Gotta go.. Whatever you guys decide, good for you, just let it be final.
Geese
If you don’t believe me search google archives in alt.seduction.fast.
Yes he is self admitted bi-polar, and unmedicated.
No he is not dangerous, hes actually a big puss, his elderly mothers boyfreind beat him up a few years back.
The last thing he is is a fighter, however if he has your contact information he will stalk the hell out of you. This is all documented, all you have to do is search.
One could almost feel sorry for him till you hear him spit out his vile things like what he said about 911.
What did he say about porsche?
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Ray Gordo is such a piece of shit. Actually its funny, i searched google and saw the post titled “DON’T FEED THE TROLLS, IT’S NOT WORTH IT”. I also read a post of him telling newbie who was seeking advice, “how Beta!”
those Puas are w/ some seriously ugly bitches
Update your site with some actual CONTENT.
Also…
RANDOM SAMURAI IS A TOOL.
CHECK OUT RANDOMS SAMURAI’S MYSPACE PAGE
SOMEBODY PLEASE, PLEASE POSE AS A GIRL ON
MYSPACE, TALK TO HIM AND POST THE
CONVERSATION ON HERE.
THUNDERCAT, WHY DON’T YOU POST SOMETHING
USEFUL, OR WHY DON’T YOU START A TOPIC
ABOUT THE PREDICTED AFTERMATH OF THE MOVIE
COMING OUT NEXT YEAR.
I personally challenge Ray Gordo in any
venue, with any rules he would like. I
would love to meet the man, the legend, the
myth of ray gordon
I Challenge Erik Von Markovik to Magic Showdown. Piece of shit illusionist. He is a disgrace to the world of the Master Mystifiers…
You know what? I take that back. You’re not worth my time Mystery. Don’t quit your day job
I hereby challenge. Mystery, or anyone else on this board to a sarge-off. My PU skills are legendary throughout the galaxy.
Bring whatever props of peacock shit you want. All I need is a six pack of Colt 45. It works every time, bitch!
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I KID YOU NOT THIS GGUY IS ONE DELUDED MOTHERFUCKING SHIT STAIN CHODE.
READ THIS THREAD:
http://fastseduction.com/masf/23/315281/
THE GUY IS A FUCKING WACKO LIKE RAY GGORDON