Is Tyler Durden A Fake?
February 27, 2006 by Thundercat
Filed under Drama & Rumors
I know there are a lot of people out there who think I’m ragging on Real Social Dynamics just for the fun of it, but that’s not really the case. I’ve actually been getting contacted a great deal by lots of different people with gripes about RSD, most of which I don’t really bother to post.
But occasionally, I get a post that’s really thought provoking, and it just so happens this one is right up there.
Semicond writes:
Hey TC,Forgive the length of this email, I know you probably get a lot, but hopefully you’ll find this is worthy of being published on your blog.
I’ve been a lurker in the community for many years now. I’m just a regular dude, don’t really take workshops or go to seminars or anything like that. I just like to read the mASF message boards a lot.
And I’ve noticed something I wanted to share with everyone.
I remember back in the days when Tyler Durder started posting on mASF. It was really cool to see a guy with a new perspective on stuff kind of rise through the ranks with his thoughts and ideas.
And he had some great posts, like the spastic rambling series. There was a time there where Tyler really seemed to be innovating a lot of cool theories and ideas.
But recently, a lot of his posts have lost that excitement and revolutionary quality. And by recently, I mean in the last year or so.
So I started going through a lot of the posts on mASF archive around the time period where TD was posting all his great stuff, and realized this was around the time of Project Hollywood, where TD was living with all those big time PUAs like Mystery and Style.
After reading Style’s book, I got the idea that TD was also traveling around and meeting with really good PUAs at this time as well.
But ever since Project Hollywood ended, and the RSD guys have been ostricized by the big time guys, TD’s posts have gone down hill, which leads me to believe that most of the really cool stuff Tyler "developed" and posted about in the good old days were really concepts and ideas he took from much better pick up artists and re-wrote to make it look like he came up with it.
I’m not making this claim lightly. If you look at some of TD’s old posts, and compare them to his recent posts, you’ll see big differences.
In the old posts, he had some really interesting core ideas which he went on to theorise on and test out.
In his new posts, it’s more like he’s got the same old ideas which he tries to drag out into something new. A lot of his posts make me feel like I’m reading a term paper where he’s trying to hide the fact he has no new ideas with a bunch of psychobable writing.
So I want to pose this question…
Do you think Tyler was ever really that great of a PUA? Or was he just a really smart keyboard jockey who stole his best stuff from better PUAs like Mystery and Sytle?
Thanks for your time.
Semicond
Well, I’d be lying if I said this wasn’t a provocative email. It is true that Tyler’s best stuff came when he was living with Mystery and Style in Project Hollywood, and when he was traveling around the world meeting the great PUAs from Mystery’s Lounge.
And it’s also true that his posts since Project Hollywood imploded have been pretty lackluster.
There’s been a lot of controversy over TD’s skill level ever since he appeared on the scene. I remember the big threads on Mystery’s Lounge about whether Tyler was a fake or not. This is stuff that wasn’t viewable by anyone but the people on the Lounge, but there were a great many people who knew Tyler who thought he was full of shit.
Eventually, his friends outweighed his enemies, so he was accepted into the fold. But you can’t deny that sometimes Tyler stretches the truth when it comes to his own prowess as a ladies man.
TD has been caught in a few fibs, such as him saying he can "open any set," or claiming the girls he sarges are 9s and 10s when in reality they were more like 6s and 7s.
And for everyone who’s read The Game, you know TD is really insecure, defensive, and manipulative.
I’ve even had eye-witnesses come forward and tell me that TD had a whole "Gay" routine worked out with wingmen where him and his wingman would actually MAKE OUT with each other in front of girls to try and get the girls to make out with each other.
(If that’s the kind of innovation TD is pioneering, I think I’ll stick to the old stuff)
So there’s a lot of shady stuff going on with TD, and if he really did get his best concepts from better PUAs like Mystery and Style, well… I can’t say I’d be surprized.
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stfu wife!
i will not allow you to tell so much bullshit to the community.
some of us guys have had hard experiences. TD got bullied in highschool. propably traumatic experiences for him. this gave him the strength to develop so much motivation to get good at this, to prove, that he is better than these guys. amog tactics were maybe a result for this and since he invented it, he made it perfect. better than if he wrote a short post on amoging and nobody understood it. now it is a big part the game.
don’t talk shit about people that are mentally a little disturbed. before the game was released, most of the people were like this and you cannot imagine how hard it is for such people to become good at this shit. if you talk about it like this, you propably have it alot easier and still your game sucks compared to the retarted guys game.
i’m proud to be retarded. this is what gives me motivation to change and lay many more HB’s.
OOh its gettin hot in herre!
Now RJ called his parents!
Too much cock-drama!
Everybody but REAL PUAs have stated their opinion:
-Gun “Schlong” Witch
-SHMELVIS
-Cameron “the gay one” c. Moffid
-Ross “I smoke Johnson” Jeffries who brought his parents!
Now this is really sad!
i am starting to get really angry. I have come to this board to get qaulity seduction information and all I get is this childish bullshit. Can’t you guys see i need this stuff, i’m fucking tired of masturbating all the time. Besides, this is the fifth keyboard i had to buy this year. My joy juice ruined the keys on all the others.
yeah, will somebody please help this nerd out. He keeps spilling his precious seed all over me. I would say more but he his a ninja in the U.S. Army and might punish me
yeah, will somebody please help this nerd out. He keeps spilling his precious seed all over me. I would say more but he his a ninja in the U.S. Army and might punish me
Wow. This blog continues to scrape the bottom of the barrel.
There are some interesting controversies out there that I – and many others – would like answers to.
But for some reason they are never addressed here.
Jack Ellis, Author
Cult Control
http://www.cultcontrol.com
Don’t make me roundhouse kick you into the next universe!
Thundercat.
Take this as a lesson. You’re blog is ruined unless you decide to start making people register. I know that you want alot of people to come here. I know you decided to let your friend Neill Strauss tell everyone about this place to help you out, but look what happened. Neil Screwed everyone over and now you are feeling it too. It’s usually one asshole that spoils a good thing for everyone else, and like in this case it’s usually someone totally unworthy to spoil it.
Nevermind that, it’s over and nothing can be done at this point to stop Nerds like Neil Strauss from screwing this up any more.
What you need to do now is decide what’s important to you. Is this blog going to turn into a FLAMING Junkyard where eventually all you will see here is a long list of adds and links for porn sites?
Is this blog going to become a place of learning where Quality Members of the seduction community can actually discuss Seduction? Im not talking about flamers either, Im talking about guys who are passed all that and have refocused those energies on doing pickup.
This blog needs a facelift, thundercat, or its going to become the joke of the community. I’m even starting to feel a little dorky posting here now (believe me when I say I have more tolerance and patience than the average catfish), knowing that none of the people who post are actually out there sargeing and improveing their game. Sure reading the posts are entertaining and comedic, to say the least. As far as serious learning about seduction and pickup and the community go it’s over.
I mean the closest thing you got to a PICKUP artist posting here regularly is that Elvis Preston King character. Thats like going to the zoo to see Tigers and you see some guy in a cage dressed in one of those Mascot suits that looks like a tiger. You know the one they wear for sports teams that people in the audience come and tackle or beat up? I guess you have to decide if thats the kind of blog you want.
The choice is yours, it’s up to you now… and all that.
Geese
Does everyone know that the shiity ebook called stripper secrets is written by Thnder “rip off merchant” cat himself?
There is SO much deception in this community
tcsl sucks ass! apb blog rocks! and btw tcsl sucks major ass!!!
To all of you who are bitching and moaning about the quality of discussion in the entries and how this should be a place “for learning seduction” I say:
Fuck you.
If you wanna learn seduction, go to mASF. Or the Mystery Method forum. Or whatever, there are lots of moderated places where you can learn seduction. This site is fun, it’s like the community tabloid, and many people like to come here, see what’s up, bust some balls etc. So STOP your incessant bitching and moaning that you wanna learn seduction here (you know who you are.)
My second point relates to the comments that say that the people who like to post some funny bullshit here and fuck around and make jokes here are can’t PU in real life and whatever. “you should be out sarging instead of flaming and writing this shit here!” they say. How fucking ironic, since they are posting here themselves.
But the moronic thing is, if someone decides to take a few minutes to read some funny stuff here, make a comment, he’s wasting time that could be used sarging instead! How fucking genius!
I’ll remember that next time i’m in the toilet taking a shit, or entertaining my self with some crap like watching a program I kinda like on tv or maybe sitting just listening to music so I can tell myself “Shit, what the fuck am I doing?! I should be out sarging instead.”
Some great fucking moaners he have here. Please, instead of wasting your time bitching about the “quality”, why don’t you spend that time as I said, learning and posting on some other moderated seduction forum?
Just fuck off player haters and stop impersonating me.
I am a better PUA the all u fuckers put together. See me in action w/ HB10s:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=spknGfyTDRc
Talk about hitting a nerve.
Dude I didn’t mean to hurt your feelings. I know you may fit the bill, but I didn’t mean you specifically.
Im not trying to control the blog or anything, and if you’re frustrated and angry, go ahead and be it.
I was just referring to the guys who want to learn pickup.
There are video game forums and forums where people talk about Crappy DJs and everything you can flame on. I could care less what people post but the amount of anonymous guys who have joined in to post useless comments such as, “tcsl sucks ass! apb blog rocks! and btw tcsl sucks major ass!!!” or “gun fucks the bitches gun fucks the bitches” or even “Some great fucking moaners he have here. Please, instead of wasting your time bitching about the “quality”, why don’t you spend that time as I said, learning and posting on some other moderated seduction forum?” are popping up more and more since “The Game” was published.
I like posting and reading this place regardless of whether there’s Pickup advice or AFCs trying to oneup guys on a message board. I’m just concerned that all the guys posting useless garbage on this site is going to turn it into a wasteland. Sure flaming can be fun, but when it gets out of hand thats all you have left. Fuck it. Like I said if this is gonna be the Seduction community’s Hip-Hop Battle, great.
I just know two things at the end of the day. 1. Im still getting laid. 2. This is NOT the place to come to read about ideas to further my personal goals. 3. Paul Van Dyk is a horrible DJ. 4. This website is good for a laugh and to remember the time when I too was a Frustrated Guy angry at the world.
Oh yea, “Moooooooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn…”
WTF?
For the record:
This is only my SECOND reply on this thread. The first was where I pointed guys to read an article on this site.
All other posts by “The One” are FAKES. The Profiles are FAKES as well.
I think most of the readers are intelligent enough to figure that out. Stalking has hit a new low on this blog. lol
Take it easy,
The One
First price for the funniest post goes to:
The “gay” One!
hilarious, dude!
Its bad enough that you, Cam are not intelligent enough to figure out that its clear for everyone to see that the other posts are fakes!
But if the myspace thingy is fake, some”one” seems to have planned this “stalking”BS in advance!
This must be a conspiracy!
If RJ wasn’t to busy chewing chocolate-lollipop, I would expect him to be the evil genius behind this!
hähähähähö!
I want to pose naked for an ebony photographer.
RJ
93/93
Looks like Cameron might need one of these…
http://bsllabs.theumb.net/proddetail.php?i=113
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Now now people, it’s time to stop STRETCHING the truth!
Dude, get some new fucking shit up already. This “Is Tyler Durden a Fake” shit is fuckin’ faggot and yesterdays news, ok?
We’re tired of talking about Style and that little clit-whistle Tyder Turden. What else ya got, tubby? What’s going with Mystery – is he still taking Seroquel?
How about Cameron? When he’s getting that lazy eye fixed.
You run a gossip blog – get some gossip, fatman. GodDAMNIT!
…Paul Van Dyk hit the nail on the head.
This is just a place to TALK SHIT and be STUPID. I’m amazed that some people still take the shit posterd here seriously or bother trying to make it that way.
It’s like when you get around your guy friends and suddenly you’re all busting each others balls and saying ignorant shit to each other just for fun. You walk away from it laughing. IMagine if some little faggot ass in your group said “eh eh!! You guys CAN’T DO THAT! That’s not FAIR or NICE!”…
…that’s what you pussy holes sound like.
IT’s a GOSSIP COLUMN, assholes.
We’re just talking shit…don’t take it so seriously.
http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/users/41b159c3zaf8a88d5/cameron_c_moffid/__sr_/4aa0.jpg?pfBq8CEBNhz.fIoU
That’s Cameron Teone? well he must have some game…. he’s bloody well ugly
Cockpricks writes:
“Its bad enough that you, Cam are not intelligent enough to figure out that its clear for everyone to see that the other posts are fakes!”
Cameron writes (book advertisment) ‘ I sat down and killed a couple of legal pads by dumping the entire contents of my brain onto paper, and I eventually compiled it into a book! ‘
wtf,the ENTIRE CONTENTS of his brain onto paper????
He admit it his brain is EMPTY and wasn’t filled to begin with!
you expected any signs of intelligence in his posts? MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
This board is turning into
TRASH
trash wrote:
“This board is turning into
TRASH”
Hey trashman, I detect a severe attitude problem here! No wonder you don’t get laid! Now get rid of all that negativity and start sargin’!
The Schmock
1/14
For the record, this is my FIFTH post in this thread.
I like to spend time here.
The post up there that said it’s my second post in this thread was an impostor.
The One
haha this site is ok as it is right now. everybody nows that thundercats book is OK but you can get the material for free on masf.
reading the comments makes me laugh hard, that is a good thing. the post above me is too damn funny.
the best post btw is from ross dad, nr. 201 or something.
cya
For the record, I have personally seen Ross blow several men and reach down and spread his ass cheecks several times.
Ross does love to suck cock and eat ass. It’s cool to see him coming out.
For the record, I have personally seen Ross blow several men and reach down and spread his ass cheecks several times.
Ross does love to suck cock and eat ass. It’s cool to see him coming out.
Hi
I’m Don Won Ton and I have small dick. I hate millitary guy. He put his dick my ass. I no speak English. I have small dick. I sit down when i Pee Pee
Hi Guys
I’m working on the registration part, so pretty soon, people will not be able to post under wrong names.
I really don’t have any thing against Tyler Durded. He screwed me up on a business deal. That’s it, but I’m over it.
AND I’M NOT FAT, JUST BIG BONED
TC
Thats it. I warned the imposters on this blog to stop disrespecting me and they haven’t. The gloves are now off. As you all well know i am an E-6 in the United States Army. and more importantly i am a computer engineer. From now on anyone who comes on this blog and disrespects me or thundercat will get a virus sent immedeatly to their computer. You have been warned. There’s a new sheriff in town.
-Don won ton
Hi,
i’m new to the community. Does anyone know some good openers or routines? I recently read the game and want to find out more.
Don won ton dont let these kids get to you man….just laugh at them…their whole mission is to get u mad…
If you know ur better than them, then don’t give them the time of day…when u feed them attention, you are adding more fule to the fire…
Anyways it’s best just to ignore the morons on here…
PS, I don’t know where you are but in America it’s illegal to harm ppl or ppl’s property…saying ur gonna send a virus to idiots is could get you into legal trouble if any of the dick heads want to go through all the hassle.
~~Opinion Operners are pick up lines now~~~
I am an E-6 in the United States Army!!!AND more importantly i am a computer engineer!!!!!!! GOT IT??? I’M SPECIAL! I’M NOT A LOSER! I HAVE A HUGE DICK AND I AM AN E-6 IN THE UNITED STATES ARMY!
I deserve RESPECT! RESPECT ME DAMN IT YOU ZJSXZK@JH ASSHOLES! I DESERVE IT! I am an E-6!!!!!
Thundercat, dude, the spoof posts are fucking hilarious, as are the reactions of those who take shit too seriously. DO NOT require registration and ruin the fun for all the smartasses.
Thanks opinion opener’s are pickup lines now, i can tell that you are one of the few cool guys on here. You and I should take steps to help clean up this board, what do you say?
-Don won ton
Don won, judging by the tone of your posts you seem mildly retarded. I would thoroughly enjoy penetrating your innards with my erect cock and then brag about it to my friends over a couple of beers
I have to admit, reading this blog is a guilty plaesure akin to eating too many chocolates while watching Passions. It makes me giggle. By the way, have you guys seen my recent post on assuming value?
-The One
Hey Cam, this was your best post by far!
This is the Nets No 1 comedy site, hahahaha!
I presonally enjoy RJ’s new passion for black schlong th most! hilarious!
I surely don’t wan’t no virus, but whats E-6?
E-6 is a gay part of the military where it is a gay orgie all the time – and it just happens to be that don won ton is incharge! From what i have heard ross jeffries, Gun and TC are all regulars on the gay train!
But according to E-6, you can’t receive without giving!!!
You know what i mean!!
Hey Commander Zap!
I really would appreciate if you could ininject your brown bomber between my buttcheeks!
RJ
93/93
Tyrone made my poopie hole droopy. Bad Tyrone (by the way, tyrone is my nigger pool boy) zoink!
Thundercat,
i’m all for a few laughs and some harmless flaming, but when someone comes on here and drops the N bomb, thats just not cool.My best friend is black and that is why i am more than dissapointed. For shame thundercat,for shame.
Hey random samurai, i have read some of your posts on fast seduction and after reading your crap here i have come to realize that your trollishness knows no bounds. You are just a poser on Masf with an early log in time.
I agree, randon samurai is a troll. So is that bradP guy with his shit workshops. My friend took one of them and said that it was half assed and that brad ditched him before the time was up. He said he was too concerned with his self. That is very unprofessional
Law don’t go ’round here law dawg. Ya hear me?
This place is like the thunderdome, “two men enter, one man leave!”
zoink!
madmax – wtf u on?
are you by anychance one of ross jeffries gay boys?
Batty!!!
Yeah I agree.
Random “Gay” Samurail sucks ass.
Check out his myspace profile. When was the last time you got lair? The only pussy you smelled is the one you came out of. Wait, you were born up the ass, so you never smelled pussy.
http://www.myspace.com/insomniaforpyros